Question S21 ultra showing its age - Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra

120hz all time in screen and thats why i get only 4h sot with 15 % in my s21 ultra snapdragon switched to 60hz and i got 6h with 34% left

How is that showing it's age?
You mean the battery needs to be replaced?
Running them hard and hot degrades Li's a lot quicker...

blackhawk said:
How is that showing it's age?
You mean the battery needs to be replaced?
Running them hard and hot degrades Li's a lot quicker...
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Is the battery as bad as the reviewers in YouTube are saying ? I want 6-7 SOT on normal usage.
Distrackto said:
Is the battery as bad as the reviewers in YouTube are saying ? I want 6-7 SOT on normal usage.
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I get 5-8h depending on what I am doing
I get around 7h SOT on normal usage with wifi on most of the time. Now I got 28% remaining and 5.5h SOT mostly on gaming/youtube. So I guess its not that bad
Anemiq said:
I get around 7h SOT on normal usage with wifi on most of the time. Now I got 28% remaining and 5.5h SOT mostly on gaming/youtube. So I guess its not that bad
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Most of the time I'll be on 4G tho...
Also how much battery drained while playing that game (im assuming its graphically intensive)
Distrackto said:
Most of the time I'll be on 4G tho...
Also how much battery drained while playing that game (im assuming its graphically intensive)
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It's a card game, but it has some 3d elements and animations. It drains the battery 1-2%/5 minutes I think.
However, let me tell you this: I've been using Xiaomi Mi3 before (Snapdragon 800 and also 3000mAh battery) and Mi A2 lasts waaaay longer, so I assume some reviewers just look at the numbers and say the battery is weak
I'm in holiday in Bali and have been in 4G since arrival. I use the maps and Spotify for most of the day, play some light games and still have battery life to spare when we get back to the hotel at night.
The phone has great battery for me, but this is all opinions and your milage may vary. Not every has the same requirements for what great battery life is.
Not a good buy to battery life , only 4 sot to me .
I am switching from galaxy s8+. I am using galaxy with full qhd+ resolution almost full brightness.
Will Mi A2 battery work same as s8+?
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maybe the worst battery life phone i have used.
in 2018 getting 4Hrs sot is not acceptable from Xiaomi
For as long as people will care about looks then manufacturers will keep making super thin profile phones. If they made them a few mm bigger then could fit a bigger battery.
It's all about deciding what you value the most as you can't have everything your heart desires in one device. Just doesn't make business sense for a company to give you the best of everything at one time.
iWolf said:
maybe the worst battery life phone i have used.
in 2018 getting 4Hrs sot is not acceptable from Xiaomi
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How much SOT do you get on a S9+? Its around 3-5h. How many times more does it cost? So 4-8h on a 250€ device is fine in my opinion.
Distrackto said:
Is the battery as bad as the reviewers in YouTube are saying ? I want 6-7 SOT on normal usage.
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I get 6-7 hours before battery reaches to 10 %. Mostly browsing, no games, wifi and 4G mixed.
I come from a s8+ with 5-6 SOT and with the xiaomi I have 5+ SOT, almost the same. Not bad for the price i think
I think 6-7 SOT is possible, depending on what you're doing. If you game a lot or watch loads of movies, then you're really stretching it though. I only got my phone last week, so I haven't tested it that much yet, but so far I can easily get through the day on one full charge.
But I don't play games or watch a lot of YouTube or movies on it. Mainly browsing, emailing, texting, phoning, podcasting, Spotify, a bit of Reddit, etc.
On the plus side, it charges really, really fast, but that's useless if you can't plug it in during the day. Besides that, the Snapdragon 660 is supposed to be more energy efficient than its predecessors. But if battery life is the main issue for you, then you might wanna reconsider buying this phone.
I would have preferred a (slightly) thicker Mi A2 with a larger battery though. 3000mAh really is the bare minimum these days. The phone is great, but it would have been awesome with a bigger battery.
Also, bear in mind, Android One takes up 13Gb of the storage size.

Battery Results for 120hz , 90hz and 60hz

Hey everyone i have already ordered my phone and I'm pretty hyped for the battery.
Does anyone have a battery drain screenshot for the 60hz or 90hz?
Most battery tests online have used the 120hz through their videos and I'm curious about how long the phone will last if you really push the battery to low speeds.
Only using 120Hz mode, always around 10h of SoT
Everyones usage is diff and mileage differs...
Example I also using 120hz but my SOT at best was 7 hrs and 30 mins
AlanTham said:
Everyones usage is diff and mileage differs...
Example I also using 120hz but my SOT at best was 7 hrs and 30 mins
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I get that I'm asking the screenshot for battery usage page which shows the SOT, Applications used and how much it has drained

battery life

have been using Rog 3 about a month and noticed that the battery is not that great especially if we consider it is a 6000mha, at least in my device
thought i would share some screenshot to my battery and hear your opinions if you think it is OK or there is something wrong
What did you expect? Your battery life is pretty normal for a 6000mah battery device. Not piss poor. Not great. Just normal. Were you expecting 3 days standby time with normal usage?
I might see it wrongly but the first pic is showing the phone is up 1 day 9hrs without charging, that's more than what I would asked for.
rolandliu said:
I might see it wrongly but the first pic is showing the phone is up 1 day 9hrs without charging, that's more than what I would asked for.
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That is with 1 hour of gaming, 5 hours of music, 3 hours of voice calls. Nearly 2 days without charging.
My device a tencent version converted and rooted at 60hz and the brightness at it lowest level and the phone heats up like hell and the battery life sucks , 3 hours of gaming feom 100 to 0% im on the oetest fw .58
bouyhy01 said:
My device a tencent version converted and rooted at 60hz and the brightness at it lowest level and the phone heats up like hell and the battery life sucks , 3 hours of gaming feom 100 to 0% im on the oetest fw .58
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Something is wrong with your set. Please get a refund from the seller. Even by playing PUBG or COD in X-Mode at max brightness does not drain from 100% to 0% in 3 hours.
lornranger said:
Something is wrong with your set. Please get a refund from the seller. Even by playing PUBG or COD in X-Mode at max brightness does not drain from 100% to 0% in 3 hours.
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After reset i got this playing pubg at 90fps
lornranger said:
What did you expect? Your battery life is pretty normal for a 6000mah battery device. Not piss poor. Not great. Just normal. Were you expecting 3 days standby time with normal usage?
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am not expecting getting 3 days but the performance of my device is not that impressivees , comparing with my other phone which has 4300 mah iget the same battery performance or even little more
rolandliu said:
I might see it wrongly but the first pic is showing the phone is up 1 day 9hrs without charging, that's more than what I would asked for.
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every new phone today can last this period, it was not that heavy using
bouyhy01 said:
After reset i got this playing pubg at 90fps
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i lose 2% from 100 to 98 direct after 5 or 10 minutes when the phone is fully charged without even using the phone at all
gonna try this app my the default battery app is not accurate
New phones have 5000-6000 mah with either Snapdragon 700 series or mediatech . This processor uses it pretty well giving 10-11 hours sot to me
Adi02122002 said:
New phones have 5000-6000 mah with either Snapdragon 700 series or mediatech . This processor uses it pretty well giving 10-11 hours sot to me
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have P30 Pro which has 4300 mah and get about the same battery performance
EQLM said:
have P30 Pro which has 4300 mah and get about the same battery performance
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Can't compare a 60hz screen with a phone giving 144hz screen. The drain of the screen will be much heavier than 60hz.
The 6000 mah battery is really good when you compare from specs point of view. Higher CPU clock speed, higher GPU clock and higher screen refresh rate and faster and more RAM. A Ferrari will use much more gas than a standard car even your Ferrari have a bigger gaz tank.
I can use this phone without ever think about getting out of juice before I get to sleep.
In the last 7 hours I used my phone for 4h20, playing game during 2 hours (COD and PUBG) and 50% of the battery remaining. So if I keep using the phone that way it means that I could run out of battery with about 8h SoT and 4 hours of gaming. I never had a phone allowing me to play that many hours of high quality games with all graphics to max.
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EQLM said:
i lose 2% from 100 to 98 direct after 5 or 10 minutes when the phone is fully charged without even using the phone at all
gonna try this app my the default battery app is not accurate
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Yes, I don't know a phone that gives you the perfect battery calibration. This phone show a loss of battery really fast in the first 10% then afterward it is slower.
I remember my Sony Z Ultra was really slow to lose the first 10% then battery was dropping really fast until reaching 20 25. And the remaining battery was longer to be used than the 60 previous %.
Or my HTC Sensation XE that could be used about half a day to drop from 5% to 0.

Question Battery getting rekt fast with 67w charge !

Noticed on battery health monitor battery seems to be getting rekt quickly
Should I charge slower or something ?
At this rate the battery is degrading 6%+ a month!
Pretty sure that's not accurate. I stopped using Accubattery a long time ago, I just use my phone like I normally would and I try not to worry about the battery degrading.
jericho246 said:
Pretty sure that's not accurate. I stopped using Accubattery a long time ago, I just use my phone like I normally would and I try not to worry about the battery degrading.
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When I test it on my old Huawei mate 20 X it says the battery is only 74% effective and it was 101% when new
I am not sure accubattery is legit or not but I never take their recommendation to only charge between 30-80% because I need to use the phone capacity from 100% to whatever and I don't plug it in until 1% or sometimes dead which is supposedly the worst thing you can do lol
I guess New batteries will be cheap by the time I need one , haven't seen a tear down yet of this device to know if it's easy to replace it yet or not....
This application give me 5115 after 2 weeks.
Dont' know if accurate or not.
I don't think they know that battery in MI11 Ultra is made with new material "silicon-oxygen anode battery" as app probably thinks you have normal "li-pol battery" so when you charge it with high power, app think you killing your li-pol battery?..
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I don't think they know that battery in MI11 Ultra is made with new material "silicon-oxygen anode battery" as app probably thinks you have normal "li-pol battery" so when you charge it with high power, app think you killing your li-pol battery?..
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Maybe... Only time will tell i suppose
speedtripler said:
Noticed on battery health monitor battery seems to be getting rekt quickly
Should I charge slower or something ?
At this rate the battery is degrading 6%+ a month!
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I just tested what it looks like for me after about 2 weeks.
I have almost the same result as you.
I really hope that's not correct, otherwise I'd be worse off now than with my Galaxy S20 Ultra (SD version) after a year.
Gh5st said:
I just tested what it looks like for me after about 2 weeks.
I have almost the same result as you.
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I really hope that's not correct, otherwise I'd be worse off now than with my Galaxy S20 Ultra (SD version) after a year.
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Yes, rather shocking results for a month , i don't mind changing battery every 6-8 months because I'm a heavy user ( but hopefully spare batteries are available? )
Once they get down to about 82% I usually order a new one and change it and it makes a big difference in the longevity of the devices
i have the phone since it launched ( received about 1 week or so after ) and in the app i have 98%.
I do believe the app is not accurate enough tough.
My mi9, after 2 years of intense usage still is at 90%
Jhonxs said:
i have the phone since it launched ( received about 1 week or so after ) and in the app i have 98%.
I do believe the app is not accurate enough tough.
My mi9, after 2 years of intense usage still is at 90%
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I hope your right , my battery seems to be degrading fast
Jhonxs said:
i have the phone since it launched ( received about 1 week or so after ) and in the app i have 98%.
I do believe the app is not accurate enough tough.
My mi9, after 2 years of intense usage still is at 90%
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I did a factory reset since last time, and i have same result.
But i don't think it's accurate, in my case i have too high result to be true.
Android doesn't directly monitor current draw I don't think so no app will be accurate.
Regardless Li's like frequent midrange power cycling 40-65% is ideal.
Avoid charging past 80% or discharging under 30% when possible to reduce battery stress.
Do not start charging a battery under 72°F, NEVER charge one near freezing.
An 85F start temperature is best.
Keep the temperature below 100F during the charge cycle.
Low temperature charging can cause Li plating which permanently degrades the cell.
Most fast charging controllers will not let fast charging engage if the start temperature is too low or high.
37-38 C temperature during charging is somehow difficult to keep with the 65-67w charging speed without any external help ( a fan for example )
But in theory you are right
Jhonxs said:
37-38 C temperature during charging is somehow difficult to keep with the 65-67w charging speed without any external help ( a fan for example )
But in theory you are right
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I use a damp microfiber cloth and/or a fan.
If it gets much above 101F charging will likely terminate. That max will vary by device however it's counterproductive to charge at this high temperature.
I usually use my blackshark fan with great success. That little device really works
Jhonxs said:
I usually use my blackshark fan with great success. That little device really works
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Question Different charging patterns

If i use the official fast charger .....charge up to 100% the next day I barely get 16 hrs and 3 hrs screen time..wireless charge slowly and I get 30 percent more .
Anyone else see a difference??
Uk unlocked s21u for reference.
You sure there are no other factors involved?: types of apps you ran, heat, etc.
mattlcfc said:
If i use the official fast charger .....charge up to 100% the next day I barely get 16 hrs and 3 hrs screen time..wireless charge slowly and I get 30 percent more .
Anyone else see a difference??
Uk unlocked s21u for reference.
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That sounds interesting! Would love to look into this a little deeper.
Could you describe this in a little more detail please? Like when do you start charging, how long it takes with each method, what your usage pattern is like, and what you mean by 30% more (SOT, Standgy, or literal battery percentage remaining)? And any relevant screeenshots would be much appreciated.
Fast charging will not engage if the temperature is too low. It will remain disengaged for that charge cycle.
Charging is an electrochemical reaction that needs a certain temperature range to function properly.
Minimum start temp is 72°F but 82-90F is optimal.
Anything below 72F brings the risk of Li plating which will permanently degrade the cell.
Charging will also shutdown if the battery temperature goes too high.
blackhawk said:
Fast charging will not engage if the temperature is too low. It will remain disengaged for that charge cycle.
Charging is an electrochemical reaction that needs a certain temperature range to function properly.
Minimum start temp is 72°F but 82-90F is optimal.
Anything below 72F brings the risk of Li plating which will permanently degrade the cell.
Charging will also shutdown if the battery temperature goes too high.
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I don't think OP is talking about speed of charging. We're trying to discuss battery life with different speeds of charging.
enigmaamit said:
I don't think OP is talking about speed of charging. We're trying to discuss battery life with different speeds of charging.
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It should be near identical.
Android battery capacity sensing always left something to be desired.
Battery temperatures should be made the same when comparing.
Try comparing battery voltages rather than indicated %
blackhawk said:
It should be near identical.
Android battery capacity sensing always left something to be desired.
Battery temperatures should be made the same when comparing.
Try comparing battery voltages rather than indicated %
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That is why we're waiting for more information about his experience before coming to any conclusions.
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That is why we're waiting for more information about his experience before coming to any conclusions.
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Depending on how fast the battery is charging it may shutdown at a lower charge level to avoid overshooting the correct shutdown voltage.
Samsung is said to be very conservative with their charge curves... I wonder why
Samsung should be using graphene batteries by now. Instead of throwing all their resources at the Folds, which never have sold well, they neglect their bread winners. I just reamed them out over that today
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I just reamed them out over that today
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You called them and asked them to switch to Graphene batteries?
nixnixnixnix4 said:
You called them and asked them to switch to Graphene batteries?
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Said they should be using them already, among other things. Before the 10+ was released there was speculation that it might have a Graphene cell, lol.
I was barely aware of this technology until a few days ago... it be cool and it's in use.
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Said they should be using them already, among other things. Before the 10+ was released there was speculation that it might have a Graphene cell, lol.
I was barely aware of this technology until a few days ago... it be cool and it's in use.
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Other than power banks, who is using them in their phones?
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Other than power banks, who is using them in their phones?
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Xiaomi tells us about graphene batteries and the great challenge posed by the Mi 10 Ultra
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30% more seems to be a huge claim .
5%-10% could have been a margin or error.
I'll have to do some tracking and get some screen shots . I normally wireless charge overnight and it says 100 % every morning and I use 70 % battery on average . But 1 day a week I have to charge using the lead . I only have the "super fast" charger and lead and the next day the battery is always worse by quite a way . Dead by 19:00 hrs. Similar usage most days . Its as if on fast charge it says 100 % but is way down.
As said I'll do some more investigation.
mattlcfc said:
I'll have to do some tracking and get some screen shots . I normally wireless charge overnight and it says 100 % every morning and I use 70 % battery on average . But 1 day a week I have to charge using the lead . I only have the "super fast" charger and lead and the next day the battery is always worse by quite a way . Dead by 19:00 hrs. Similar usage most days . Its as if on fast charge it says 100 % but is way down.
As said I'll do some more investigation.
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You know that you can toggle OFF fast-charging and super-fast-charging in the battery settings right?
Try that.
blackhawk said:
Xiaomi tells us about graphene batteries and the great challenge posed by the Mi 10 Ultra
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Samsung better listen then.
These batteries should last us 4 years easily. Anything less than that is a rip off.
nixnixnixnix4 said:
Samsung better listen then.
These batteries should last us 4 years easily. Anything less than that is a rip off.
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With heavy usage the Li's are good for 1-2 years. Maybe better in a temp controlled environment.
I stream a lot and that's hard on the battery which is why I now say... live and let die
It's typical for batteries to last longer the slower they're charged. If you're using fast charging when plugged in, you'll see a decrease in the amount of charge that is held throughout the day, compared to wireless charging which is quite a bit slower.
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If i use the official fast charger .....charge up to 100% the next day I barely get 16 hrs and 3 hrs screen time..wireless charge slowly and I get 30 percent more .
Anyone else see a difference??
Uk unlocked s21u for reference.
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Are you sure there aren't any other elements at play? Examples include the applications you used, the temperature, and so on.
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It's typical for batteries to last longer the slower they're charged. If you're using fast charging when plugged in, you'll see a decrease in the amount of charge that is held throughout the day, compared to wireless charging which is quite a bit slower.
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So you're saying if one battery is slow, one is fast charged, both to 3.2 volts, the slow charged one will yield mAhs.
Unless the battery is degraded I have my doubts that it be a significant difference.

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