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Hi All
I'm new to this so I thought I'd put this thread together for other noobs. It explains in basic terms which rom is which, where to get it and what you can flash with your device locked or unlocked.
If I've got anything wrong, please let me know.
Unlocking Your Mi9
Don't forget to backup first!
There are plenty of threads on this, but I found a couple of gotchas. I went to the unlocking site https://en.miui.com/unlock/ and clicked the button, it took me to the Chinese language site. There was an option to choose US English, but that just gave an internal server error. After a day or so, this was working fine.
Secondly, once I had downloaded the PC based unlocking software and logged in I got an error message:
Can't unlock. Your account isn't associated with a phone number
After a bit of surfing I learned that I had to log into my Xiaomi account in a web browser and add my phone number as a backup number. Then it asked me to turn off wifi, enable mobile data, then it send me a code which I then entered into the site.
After all this it's now working, the countdown is going down and I hope to unlock my bootloader on Wednesday. Tick Tock...
Install ROMs before unlocking
If your device is not unlocked yet, you can only install official roms from here:
http://en.miui.com/download-361.html
There are instructions on how to do this on the web site. There is no need to backup when installing official ROMs. But you might like to anyway
There was one piece of information missing that threw me for a short while; The instructions on the web site tell you to click on the 3 dots and choose:
Choose Update Package.
This option was missing on my phone even after downloading the ROM to the phone. The fix is to go to Settings->System Update and Click the 10 logo 10 times. Fooled me lol.
Global or EEA?
If your phone is European you can't install the Global ROM. If you look at the top of the page there is a Global or EAA link. You can tell which you have by going into:
Settings->About Phone->MIUI Version.
Mine is EAA and the version is 10.2.15.0(PFAEUXM). The current Global one is V10.2.3.0.PFAMIXM. A bit of surfing shows CN=China
So EU = EAA, Global = MI and CN-China. So your box says Global but your settings say EAA? Mine too! A bit weird, but I think the EAA version supports WideVine for digital rights management for netflix etc.
Install ROMs after unlocking
You can find weekly build ROMs here:
https://xiaomi.eu/community/ and click on MIUI ROM DOWNLOADS
I am told these ROMs are based on the Chinese version, but I'm not sure of the implications there. Maybe someone could inform me?
Now that you're unlocked, you can (backup your current rom) and flash these images with TWRP. The instructions are further down the page and are quite comprehensive.
Don't relock your bootloader! I understand this will brick your phone!
That's all for now, please feel free to add or correct any info here.
Cheers
Steve
Thanks a ton for this informative post!
It's nice to know I can use official ROMs while I wait for the bootloader to unlock, especially since i bought the CN model. I'll get to that now...
Custom ROMs are based off of the Chinese version because its the most feature-full version. Thebonly reason I don't want to use the official CN rom is because you never know what deals-requirements Xiaomi has with their government on collecting and sending back your data.
Hi @Gourmandises
No probs and thanks for the extra description of China roms. Mind you, just about every stock app on my EU phone has a privacy policy as long as your arm, including video player and even calculator. If you read this, Xiaomi get access to pretty much everything.
I don't want to debloat yet, as I mentioned I'm waiting for an unlock and I worry that debloating might affect the unlocking as they need to harvest enough personal data from me!
I'll update as I go along. Can't wait to install the China rom now you've told me it has more features.
BTW as far as privacy goes, I like to install No Root Firewall here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.greyshirts.firewall
I like it because it blocks everything until you explicitly allow it. You can install apps with ads and they won't get through the firewall. The only slight issue is it doesn't seem to autostart on boot so you need to re-start it each time.
Cheers
Steve
Hi @picitup
I don't know much about the ROMs but xiaomi.eu makes it seem like there's some unique things in it where they say -Our ROMs features (Whats not in Global):-
Maybe the only reason its CN rom is for the weekly builds. Global and EU don't get features as early? I think the rest of that list is custom things they've added then...
This is your thread, and I know less than you hehe
Gourmandises said:
Hi @picitup
I don't know much about the ROMs but xiaomi.eu makes it seem like there's some unique things in it where they say -Our ROMs features (Whats not in Global):-
Maybe the only reason its CN rom is for the weekly builds. Global and EU don't get features as early? I think the rest of that list is custom things they've added then...
This is your thread, and I know less than you hehe
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Well no I'm getting even more excited. Probably should get out more.
It's what I had heard about the CN ROMs. Regular updates and the EEA version will update at some point in the future.
It doesn't really matter what you know or don't know - when you learn it you know it lol. I remember going on training courses and asking stupid questions. In the tea break people would tell me they didn't understand either, but were scared to ask.
I saw on someone else's thread the footer:
If you know what you're doing, you're not learning anything
Brill
Steve
This thread needs to be seriously bumped now that Mi9 sales are rocketing.
@picitup, would you be kind enough to edit the OP with a different structure? I was thinking about:
> 6-7 types of ROMs and how to find about your phone version's
- Global Stable & Global Developer
- EEA Stable
- Chinese Stable & Developer
- Xiaomi.eu fanmade custom roms based on China Developer
(& Where to download official roms)
> How to install & unlock bootloader
That would avoid a lot of frustration ("Why me wait me got phone me want unlock now"), errors ("Why me not Netflix HD, me not WideVineL1 after flashing official xiaomi.eu rom"), etc
Thank you
RedWave31 said:
This thread needs to be seriously bumped now that Mi9 sales are rocketing.
@picitup, would you be kind enough to edit the OP with a different structure? I was thinking about:
> 6-7 types of ROMs and how to find about your phone version's
- Global Stable & Global Developer
- EEA Stable
- Chinese Stable & Developer
- Xiaomi.eu fanmade custom roms based on China Developer
(& Where to download official roms)
> How to install & unlock bootloader
That would avoid a lot of frustration ("Why me wait me got phone me want unlock now"), errors ("Why me not Netflix HD, me not WideVineL1 after flashing official xiaomi.eu rom"), etc
Thank you
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Yes, no problem. My wife has forced me to drink whiskey tonight, so I'll look a restructuring it tomorrow
Cheers
picitup said:
Yes, no problem. My wife has forced me to drink whiskey tonight, so I'll look a restructuring it tomorrow
Cheers
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*Forced... How awefull ?
marcel112 said:
*Forced... How awefull
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It's a tough job, but someone has to do it
SirTAVARES said:
i can help you guys out
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Yes please if we can expand this to help more people, all the better.
If you'd like to post up here and links to Chinese global/developer roms and anything you think should be included, I'd be very grateful
I'll then include them in the 1st post.
Cheer
Recoveries:
revolution recoveryencryption working without typing password(?), didn't test yet
twrp siankatafb (TWRP-3.3.1-1-siankatabg-MI9.img), otg, encryption, gapps ok after resize,
twrp mauronofrio (twrp-3.2.3-10-cepheus-mauronofrio.img, twrp-3.3.1-4-cepheus.img) - otg, backups added, encryption, gapps ok after resize
twrp randomblame (Twrp_3.3.0_Cepheusv11.zip) - promising twrp under frequent development, flashing has to be done via cable, no encryption
twrp (chinese) wzsx150 (recovery-mi9-3.3.0.-9.0-b10.img also distributed as twrp_cepheus.img, recovery-TWRP-3.3.0-0524-XIAOMI9-CN-wzsx150.img) - encryption, gapps ok after resize, ez rooting via button or exit dialog, most features and least bootloops..also unparalleled collection of backup or flashing partitions [Best Recovery] L.R.Team recovery list (password: itk8)
twrp translated (twrp_en.img) - chinese with switched language, not sure if they switched the device identifier too, old anyways
ROMs:
global stable - mal/spy/adware and crippled UI and app framework [Daily Hate award] for all MIUI download page
global dev/beta - mal/spy/adware and won't boot without some components (not cleanable), with newest functionality, weekly updated
xiaomi.eu - too similar to global dev but with ugly app icons and some mal/spy/adware removal (fully cleanable), creates problems switching to aosp ROMs tweaks
mi-globe - xiaomieu clone where you can cook your config, extra debloat, 99% similar to xiaomieu
RevolutionOS - xiaomieu clone with extra debloat, ppl say battery is great, 99% similar to xiaomieu
flokorom - AOSP ROM best GSI til May no longer updated, fingerprint great but not perfect, bluetooth and tap2wake works with patch, crdroid customization is strong
phh - a base for other AOSP ROMs, showed a lot of love for mi9 in test builds, little customization and updates as a ROM but important base for AOSP!
rr - OTA but not frequent which doesn't help at this time as they took partial phh commits only so there's no fingerprint at all, lot of customization
Los16 - Linage16 by randomblame, first effort, lot of things broken yet
PE - Pixel Experience, AOSP non-GSI, gapps not needed, OTA, AOD fp! [Best ROM]
ViperOS - AOSP
crDroid - AOSP, very customizable but unofficial yet
Kernels:
randomblame kernel - upstream kernel, works well but can't be switched back to other kernel anymore
androplus kernel - battery oriented, lot of wakelocks kicked off but not saving battery at all imo, also kicks off 'There's an internal problem with your device. Contact your manufacturer for details.' error
extremekernel - performance oriented
Modems:
Rooting and exposing:
mindthegapps, opengapps, Magisk-v19.1.zip, Magisk-uninstaller-20190501.zip, MagiskManager-v7.1.2.apk, magisk-riru-core-v19.zip, magisk-EdXposed-v0.3.1.7_beta-release.zip (not good experience with newer versions), EdXposedInstaller_v2.2.4-release.apk, EdXposedUninstaller.zip, magisk_patch_for_Mi9_v5.zip, Savitar_GCam_Patch, 84Hz mod dtbo, MIUI Anesthetist
Tools:
miflash_unlock-en-3.3.1212.33.zip, miflash_unlock-en-2.3.803.10.zip (to avoid 3 extra days of waiting), MiFlashSetup_eng.msi, adb-setup-v2.exe, MiSetup3.2.1.3111_2717.zip ...
doggydog2 said:
Recoveries:
twrp xda (twrp-3.2.3-10-cepheus-mauronofrio.img) - no otg, backups and encryption; flashing has to be done via cable and cannot write to data, so it's one round flashing only! also can't install gapps (error 64, error 1)
twrp chinese (recovery-mi9-3.2.3.img also distributed as twrp_cepheus.img) - no data backups and encryption, incompatible with 'cepheus' flashing, it's powerful but might create 'cannot connect to camera' (or kernel?) and 'There's an internal problem with your device. Contact your manufacturer for details.' (or ROM?) errors
twrp translated (twrp_en.img) - chinese with switched language, not sure if they switched the device identifier too
ROMs:
global stable - mal/spy/adware
global dev/beta - mal/spy/adware and won't boot without some components (not cleanable), with newest functionality, weekly updated
xiaomi.eu - too similar to global dev but with ugly app icons and some mal/spy/adware removal (fully cleanable), creates problems switching to aosp ROMs
flokorom - most up to date and frequent mi9 related ROM, with limitations: glitchy AOD, problematic fingerprint, bluetooth (fixable), no tap2wake or raise2wake, some crdroid customization
phh - a base for other ROMs, showed a lot of love for mi9 in test builds, but can't even login as fingerprint circles overrides keyboard, little customization
rr - OTA but not frequent which doesn't help at this time as they took partial phh commits only so there's no fingerprint at all, lot of customization; i'd like to use this in future because of OTA
Kernels:
extremekernel - performance oriented
androplus kernel - battery oriented, lot of wakelocks kicked off
Modems:
Rooting and exposing:
Magisk-v19.0.zip, Magisk-uninstaller-20190328.zip, MagiskManager-v7.1.1.apk, magisk-riru-core-v18.zip, magisk-EdXposed-v0.3.1.7_beta-release.zip, EdXposedInstaller_v2.2.4-release.apk, EdXposedManager-org.meowcat.edxposed.manager-4.3.1-431-release.apk, EdXposedUninstaller.zip
Tools:
miflash_unlock-en-3.3.1212.33.zip, miflash_unlock-en-2.3.803.10.zip (to avoid 3 extra days of waiting), MiFlashSetup_eng.msi, adb-setup-v2.exe, MiSetup3.2.1.3111_2717.zip ...
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Thanks for this, a really useful summary.
I am curious of these gsi builds, especially RR, though gonna wait a bit longer as I'm happy with MIUI being stable etc
I'm a bit worried by what you say with TWRP being a one time flash only as it can't write to data.
Does this mean that if I install the xiaomi.eu ROM today, that's it no further flashes in the future?!
Also there's a warning on the xiaomi.eu download page that magisk may cause lag and fingerpring issues, has anyone experienced this?
I need to make sure that google pay works
I have a global model with the EU rom, can i use the dev rom or the xiaomi.eu rom? I've read that that european models can't use global rom, will these work?
i have EEA device version, can i flash global ROM and Re-Lock Bootloader ?
oziojik said:
i have EEA device version, can i flash global ROM and Re-Lock Bootloader ?
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Yes
cd993 said:
Thanks for this, a really useful summary.
I am curious of these gsi builds, especially RR, though gonna wait a bit longer as I'm happy with MIUI being stable etc
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cheers. So i reached a fantastic configuration on what i believe is the best ROM for Mi9: Foloko. Very frequent updates now as the dev, cough cough, simply owns the physical device. Software wise it is fantastic, the tweaks are great, the tap-to-wake works, the AOD screen works in a smart way (like only notifications or only music if you wish), lot of useful actions work on deep doze screen like music control with volume buttons, and legendary Xposed Edge controls the AI button in that mode. Got 9 actions defined. So this disadvantage to 6T doze gestures is gone although the gestures are cooler. Bluetooth [car] works. The mesmerizing swipe-to-apps a.k.a. QuickStep works with the included launcher or even Hyperion (which you can enable with QuickStep magisk plugin). Navigation of apps is fantastic with the Pie button (and tweakable as hell; Xiaomi: impossible). So many Quick setting icons (i counted 40? whaat). Screenshot region works (Xiaomi: disabled even via Xposed). App notifications work great with extra blinking features, vanilla style (Xiaomi suppresses them by default!). Not missing anything from Xiaomi ROM and getting much more. Lot of free memory as the bloatware is gone. Traditional stuff like DataSaver, memory and battery control (Xiaomi: disfunctional kill-all memory guard). Only stuff that you want runs in the memory and you can open running processes from the notification bar (in Xiaomi: censored). There's even some OTA. Camera works. Charging is super fast and you see the volt and ampers on the lockscreen. You can throw away google backdoor SmartLock as you have The Profiles. Nigh mode (however not readable like on all ROMs/devices).
However it comes with this disadvantage at the moment:
- installation can be insane (miflashing stock ROM tgz is required, gapps will fail most of the time, custom kernel will be a problem etc - wasted many hours on this)
- fingerprint generally works but it's hard to see it and very often i have to press it twice, no facelock..... i think not a dealbreaker, not a reason to stick to xiaomi ROMs
- battery consumption is terrible (5%/hr in deep doze(!) standby - even in full wifi standby 100%->0% test!!!), and i believe it is because of Magisk as i didn't identify anything in the 3C monitor except rather high CPU frequencies and and disabling monitoring and gms had no effect ---> i'm exhausted but i will still work on this. Only when this is solved, will give away my lovely 6T just in: setting passive governor -> frequencies much lower, battery impact none.
no doubt the most difficult flashing experience in a decade.. imagine 2 weeks waiting for unlock, learn to hack the extra 3 days waittime award, 2 weeks trying to fight xiaomi ROMs, read their childish forums to gain knowledge, analyze the flashing process, the firmware packages, the flashing issue in every step possible, learn to modify the scripts in flash packages (wtf), learn about error 1, error 7, error 64, error... failed gapps packages, then spend tons of hours trying to make AOSP run.. who wants to go through this hell if you have a high privacy standard (need Xposed XPrivacy)?:silly: while the experience with 6T was: type oem unlock, flash magisk, xposed, one config session, done. No problem since. It just works. You don't need a custom ROM at all. Zero troubleshooting. zero problems. Fantastic battery 4 passive days. Wow. QC and Qi addiction is the reason i fight with xiaomi. Will update on battery, the very last issue.
doggydog2 said:
cheers. So i reached a fantastic configuration on what i believe is the best ROM for Mi9: Foloko. Very frequent updates now as the dev, cough cough, simply owns the physical device. Software wise it is fantastic, the tweaks are great, the tap-to-wake works, the AOD screen works in a smart way (like only notifications or only music if you wish), lot of useful actions work on deep doze screen like music control with volume buttons, and legendary Xposed Edge controls the AI button in that mode. Got 9 actions defined. So this disadvantage to 6T doze gestures is gone although the gestures are cooler. Bluetooth [car] works. The mesmerizing swipe-to-apps a.k.a. QuickStep works with the included launcher or even Hyperion (which you can enable with QuickStep magisk plugin). Navigation of apps is fantastic with the Pie button (and tweakable as hell; Xiaomi: impossible). So many Quick setting icons (i counted 40? whaat). Screenshot region works (Xiaomi: disabled even via Xposed). App notifications work great with extra blinking features, vanilla style (Xiaomi suppresses them by default!). Not missing anything from Xiaomi ROM and getting much more. Lot of free memory as the bloatware is gone. Traditional stuff like DataSaver, memory and battery control (Xiaomi: disfunctional kill-all memory guard). Only stuff that you want runs in the memory and you can open running processes from the notification bar (in Xiaomi: censored). There's even some OTA. Camera works. Charging is super fast and you see the volt and ampers on the lockscreen. You can throw away google backdoor SmartLock as you have The Profiles. Nigh mode (however not readable like on all ROMs/devices).
However it comes with this disadvantage at the moment:
- installation can be insane (miflashing stock ROM tgz is required, gapps will fail most of the time, custom kernel will be a problem etc - wasted many hours on this)
- fingerprint generally works but it's hard to see it and very often i have to press it twice, no facelock..... i think not a dealbreaker, not a reason to stick to xiaomi ROMs
- battery consumption is terrible (5%/hr in deep doze(!) standby - even in full wifi standby 100%->0% test!!!), and i believe it is because of Magisk as i didn't identify anything in the 3C monitor except rather high CPU frequencies and and disabling monitoring and gms had no effect ---> i'm exhausted but i will still work on this. Only when this is solved, will give away my lovely 6T just in: setting passive governor -> frequencies much lower, battery impact none.
no doubt the most difficult flashing experience in a decade.. imagine 2 weeks waiting for unlock, learn to hack the extra 3 days waittime award, 2 weeks trying to fight xiaomi ROMs, read their childish forums to gain knowledge, analyze the flashing process, the firmware packages, the flashing issue in every step possible, learn to modify the scripts in flash packages (wtf), learn about error 1, error 7, error 64, error... failed gapps packages, then spend tons of hours trying to make AOSP run.. who wants to go through this hell if you have a high privacy standard (need Xposed XPrivacy)?:silly: while the experience with 6T was: type oem unlock, flash magisk, xposed, one config session, done. No problem since. It just works. You don't need a custom ROM at all. Zero troubleshooting. zero problems. Fantastic battery 4 passive days. Wow. QC and Qi addiction is the reason i fight with xiaomi. Will update on battery, the very last issue.
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Very interesting to read! I'm curious of gsi roms however so far I'd miss stock camera and this battery life is also making me hesitant.
I'm currently trying out RevolutionOS which is proving to be a very nice rom.
I did try Floko and experienced the same issue with gapps, took a while to work but managed it eventually. When booted I couldn't change the contrast/colours and all the whites seemed dull, presumably that isn't fixed yet (?!) and so for that and other reasons I decided to flash back to miui. I really don't mind it, after soong lots of tweaks and debloating etc.
But indeed, I must say I am almost tempted by the OnePlus 7 Pro whenever that comes out..... But we'll see!
What happened? Got 1% drop in 3hours. Did the phone "settle"? Did Xiaomi disconnect? i'm leaving it alone for 1hr blocks all day, this time i let it longer..
3C: 0.33% per hour.. is the phone dead? all seems working, network was active, data was there, google connected, VPN uninterrupted and resident programs too (no cleanup, actually tons of stuff and xposed*).
GSam: estimates 132hr (5.5days) standby per full charge, by math it is 12.6day per this sick value (lowest ever measure in non-airplane mode) funny but that's how i measured 6T,Note9,V30.. sitting at the exact spot and waiting..6T gave me 7days theoretical number and 4 real passive days afterwards* and come home with 75%, wake up next morning with 65% in active days)
Let's quickly write the conditions:
- 3g and home wifi (yes the wifi is a battery saver, and home wifi is the best... you know... proximity)
- ROM: flokoRom 21-04-2019
- kernel: stock (default)
- flashing sequence: dtbo, vendor, persist, boot, system, resize system partition, reboot to recovery, mindthegapps64, wipe caches, magisk19.0, two reboots
- governor: schedulutil (default), others (default), f-sync on (default)
- kernel wakelocks blocked: none (default), system wakelocks blocked: none (default), system alarms blocked: none (default)
- wakelocks detected: c8c000.qcom,hal_bluetooth_lock,PowerManagerService.WakeLocks,qcom_rx_wakelock (no smp2p-sleepstate there surprisingly)
- naptime: ON (=deep doze was active, however it didn't mean anything in previous tests)
- servicely: ON, force app standby: OFF (this would block notifications)
- surface settings: crDroid pocket detection and other 2 phh doze features: OFF
- Magisk 19.1 with useless GMS hack and 3C OFF, Magisk Hide OFF (as i don't want to hide my root, not using payments, and only GMS doze used this); GSI patch v3, Quickstep, edXposed, Xyoutube ON
- Exposed with Edge, XCall, XPrivacy ON; 3C OFF (only nonsys app running and monitoring only battery)
*Note: measuring Standby. More important than SOT if you want to have working phone at evening. Measuring wifi standby with no interaction is to check max potential of the phone with all background setup running (200 apps, 3 chats, 3 mails, disk encryption, network encryption, location sharing, location history, xposed - maxed out setup). Exact same process on each phone. Standby home wifi > Standby wifi > Standby 3g by huge margins. Results when moving with phone will vary drastically. My goal is humble: 1.5day of mixed use.
This type of performance continued later. Followed by permaactive browsing session 8.5%/hr (max 12hr SOT). During the active day (3g / office wifi) ended up also with ~75% (GSam: 84hr standby left). So this is great. I keep the phone and give away 6T. Finally. Achieved (consider the huge time waste however):
- no sign of Xiaomi thrashware existence
- optimal Pie experience with no feature or setting missing, QuickStep(R) and Pie navbar
- sexier lighter thinner phone with less memory but newer processors (fastest on market)
- my favorite feature Qi a QC on all charging levels existing (fastest on market), compatible with all existing standard chargers, optioanlly 3 gram magnet system to Qi-charge & hold in the car ("Floveme" on AliEx)
- great battery life
- less problems after setup than with rooted Samsung, bit more than with OnePlus (fingerprint not great, but this will improve by time i guess)
SD card sucks, but USB-C flash in the wallet works well with the chinese TWRP. OnePlus 7 is out of consideration thanks to Qc/Qi. Not sure if I want to wait for unlock next time, i'd prefer to buy 2nd hand unlocked Xiaomi phone if any ("outsource" the waiting). Let's see if OnePlus will be stubborn next year..
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I just noticed the AOSP Pie AOD notifications are actionable, there are normal buttons on AOD like mark as read or reply. That's best solution seen yet, you can do some little interaction with Samsung AOD but to set message read or navigate form AOD? And LED blinks on any apps you wish, in any style you set. That is cool. Hard to miss notification with vibration, sound, AOD and LED? AOSP FlokoRom, updates bi-weekly... RR is updated bi-monthly... so much for subject "ROMs - which one is which"...
Hi guys,
I have a debranded P10 c432 on emui 8. Firmware Finder report a VTR-LGRP2-OVS 9.0.1 Full OTA it's a strange name, very different from the one based on emui 8 that are somehting like "VTR-L09C432".
So:
Can I install that fw and go to emui 9?
Is it worth updating? the system is slow? battery life? how about the video stabilization?
Can I root?
Can I downgrade, eventually?
thank you in advance
This method work for my
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78850439&postcount=1334
1. The best you can do untill ota arrives is to try via hicare. That way i managed to install emui9 on my vtr-l29c432. The firmwares on ff might cause a brick if it's not the right one for your device so i don't think it's worth the risk.
2.In terms of performace i find the overall system a bit faster and smoother in transitions so for me it's a worth upgrade. No slowdowns or whatever, it's quick and stable with no issues so far (approx. 2weeks of use). Battery seems to be the same, depends on your usage, it may dry fast if you always on screen or it can last a full day if you don't stress it out. About the video i'm not so sure about it but on 1080p 60fps seems to be fine but again i'm not sure about it. I dont record that much on the phone, i ocasionally take some pictures and the camera seems to be fine. Maybe with future updates will be better. It's all about your preferences.
3. I don't use root but maybe it's possible with magisk.
4.Yes, with hisuite.
first thank you so much @Firicel69
then
Necrodaemon said:
This method work for my
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78850439&postcount=1334
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mmmm why I need all these hisuite stuff for OVS if I have the unlocked bl and twrp installed? I don't understand this OVS thing...
RealPsygnosis said:
first thank you so much @Firicel69
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mmmm why I need all these hisuite stuff for OVS if I have the unlocked bl and twrp installed? I don't understand this OVS thing...
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When you have bootloader unlocked an TWRP installed make it easy
Look for upgrading to pie Tutorial at this Forum by @Jannomag!
Last Version to use on FF is 9.0.1.165...
I have a P10, rebranded from L09 to L29 with bootloader unlock...
@Jannomag s tutorial is working fine, no Problems with updating so far...
RealPsygnosis said:
Hi guys,
I have a debranded P10 c432 on emui 8. Firmware Finder report a VTR-LGRP2-OVS 9.0.1 Full OTA it's a strange name, very different from the one based on emui 8 that are somehting like "VTR-L09C432".
So:
Can I install that fw and go to emui 9?
Is it worth updating? the system is slow? battery life? how about the video stabilization?
Can I root?
Can I downgrade, eventually?
thank you in advance
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To upgrade to EMUI 9, you need a full firmware - those are listed as VTR-L29C432E1R1P9B165 (9.0.1.165), as an example. The LGRP2 firmwares, those are core system update images for non-Chinese devices (the Bnnn portion of the build number); they split the pieces apart into separately versioned bits with Pie.
I can't say anything for EMUI 9 features specifically, as I installed it for the updated vendor image, not EMUI.
You can root, with Magisk. They removed the ability to boot with a ramdisk in a normal boot, so Magisk takes over recovery instead; newer releases can boot both ways by button detection at boot time.
Downgrade - hisuite.
My battery life went down, but to early to say, because theese Huaweis is smart and needs time to learn habits and battery use... In two weeks I know more.
I don't think it's worth it. Smoother animations and better zoom photo quality are the only upsides. Other than that:
- camera app is much less intuitive, swiping between modes is slow and irritating, that's one of the things that should not be copied from iOS
- no video stabilization whatsoever
- image color processing is a hit and miss (it hates nature), when it gets slightly darker images are too dark
- I lost 1 hour of screen on time
- gallery app is stupid, it lost all the customization. You can't change folders to a list, you can't even rearrange the order!
- screenshot "mechanic" is stupid, it adds one unnecessary step to the process if you want to edit it or something
- themes app is unuseable, it got worse going from Nougat to Oreo, now it's just a messy store. Keep the theme you're on right now and forget about it.
- NFC issues (file transfer works, mobile payments don't).
In short - If your P10 works fine don't bother with the update.
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I don't think it's worth it. Smoother animations and better zoom photo quality are the only upsides. Other than that:
- camera app is much less intuitive, swiping between modes is slow and irritating, that's one of the things that should not be copied from iOS
- no video stabilization whatsoever
- image color processing is a hit and miss (it hates nature), when it gets slightly darker images are too dark
- I lost 1 hour of screen on time
- gallery app is stupid, it lost all the customization. You can't change folders to a list, you can't even rearrange the order!
- screenshot "mechanic" is stupid, it adds one unnecessary step to the process if you want to edit it or something
- themes app is unuseable, it got worse going from Nougat to Oreo, now it's just a messy store. Keep the theme you're on right now and forget about it.
- NFC issues (file transfer works, mobile payments don't).
In short - If your P10 works fine don't bother with the update.
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Can underline this.
Also the Memo-App is bad now, no more tick-boxes for quick notes (which is really annoying) and other small issues.
On of the most annyoing is the changing of notification colors on the lockscreen. This is so infuriating for me.....
I dig the Pie, better blutooth, and cams and gallery is nice here, also like the look on swipe menu, and maneuver...
The battery is better today.. I've blockcharged while I was in the shower and 50% now...
It's an old phone.. so I usually block charge abit on the night, in weekend I tend to stay up abit later also...
The phone is faster loading and multitasking.
Gallery is nice? What's nice about it? Blinding white background while viewing your pictures? Or the fact that you cannot do such basic thing as rearranging the order of your folders?
Pie on p10 is very battery efficient. It's so efficient at killing background processes that even calendar notifications won't work properly anymore. Last time I had alarm 22 hours and some minutes late. All other notifications appear at very random times, but always very late. Notifications work fine only for a few days until the app probably gets kicked out of ram. Completeley useless.
And then there is camera with much worse low light quality, bluetooth problems, useless themes app and bunch of other completely useless features and I'm slowly having enough of huawei and their updates. I've had my p10 since march 2017 and I don't think it ever worked without at least one major bug.
Ok I get the point, pie is for someone good and for - too many - a mess. But, maybe because it's a beta? On FF I cannot understand if it9s a beta release or not. Because some other versions of oreo are been released on April with Pie.
And BTW I have spend some time to read some threads here (dated March) and the @Jannomag scripts and it's obvious that it's too early to install it. There is no TWRP, and install magisk is completed and unreliable.
So maybe I will update oreo and wait that pie is mature enough at least that I could install twrp and magisk. Because, honestly, I don't care that gallery app or themes are worst, I could always replace them,the importance is that the system is usable.
It's not a beta. I got it through HiCare app, it's an official OTA update. Besides - most of the things I'm complaining about are present in P30 as well. That's how EMUI 9 is supposed to work.
@Imnotdriving, how is Bluetooth better? Asking because it might be a factor in my decision to upgrade ?
As it turns out, my phone got the pie update last night so I got my own answer. One previously stubborn to connect speaker now connects quickly with aptx Bluetooth hence confirming that Bluetooth is improved.
Otherwise I like the new gesture navigation option in this update. Beyond that, not much is different for the way I use the phone.
There are a lot of new services running and I disabled about a dozen of the low hanging fruit. There's more that I'm sure I'll disable over time once I find out what they do.
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@Imnotdriving, how is Bluetooth better? Asking because it might be a factor in my decision to upgrade [emoji6]
As it turns out, my phone got the pie update last night so I got my own answer. One previously stubborn to connect speaker now connects quickly with aptx Bluetooth hence confirming that Bluetooth is improved.
Otherwise I like the new gesture navigation option in this update. Beyond that, not much is different for the way I use the phone.
There are a lot of new services running and I disabled about a dozen of the low hanging fruit. There's more that I'm sure I'll disable over time once I find out what they do.
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The information in the update link spesofic stated that blutooth functions would be better, I don't remember exactly what it said.
Guys what package should I use for upgrade?
VTR-LGRP2-OVS 9.0.1.203
Or
VTR-L29C432E1R1P9B185
Both full ota
The OVS one is just one package update_full_base. Zip but it seems newer then the b185
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Guys what package should I use for upgrade?
VTR-LGRP2-OVS 9.0.1.203
Or
VTR-L29C432E1R1P9B185
Both full ota
The OVS one is just one package update_full_base. Zip but it seems newer then the b185
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For the initial update, the LGRP1/LGRP2 packages shouldn't be used - while it's marked FullOTA, it's not a complete build, as it's missing various partitions that need to be flashed in an upgrade from Oreo. (Basically, you'll brick if you flash one of those.)
If you're already on Pie, either works equally well.
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For the initial update, the LGRP1/LGRP2 packages shouldn't be used - while it's marked FullOTA, it's not a complete build, as it's missing various partitions that need to be flashed in an upgrade from Oreo. (Basically, you'll brick if you flash one of those.)
If you're already on Pie, either works equally well.
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So I should use the VTR-L29C432E1R1P9B185 package with the script here? After that I can update pie with LGRP2? But is LGRP2-OVS a sort of beta?
Do you advise me to use the jannomag script or the hi suite trick with dns?
I hope everything goes fine, I want to do a full wipe and install magisk
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So I should use the VTR-L29C432E1R1P9B185 package with the script here? After that I can update pie with LGRP2? But is LGRP2-OVS a sort of beta?
Do you advise me to use the jannomag script or the hi suite trick with dns?
I hope everything goes fine, I want to do a full wipe and install magisk
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I've done all of my updates to P using a nocheck recovery. I can't say anything about the tricks with HiSuite or the script you've mentioned, though they should work just fine.
As far as the build numbers go: LGRP1-CHN and LGRP2-OVS are the China and everywhere else builds, respectively. It's possible that some of them might be beta, though I suspect the release notes would give up some indication of that.
Hello there,
Since Android 10 is finally out in final version for our beloved Note 9 Exynos, how many of you are upgrading, and why? Also, for whom will choose to stick with Pie, again, why? And last, for those who are still on Oreo, what are you waiting for?
Personally, I didn't see that much new features that I really want to use right now. Mostly some tweakings here and there in some interfaces, but nothing really new, looks more like a modded version of Pie . I'm not a fan of the new gestures either, I think I'd keep the navbar anyway so... I'm gonna wait a moment before upgrading. And I'm mostly waiting for Swift Installer/substratum/Goodlock compatibility too, can't live without those
The thing I'd like to try out is DeX on PC, but again I don't really have a need for it. I'm more sad to lose Linux On Dex when I'll upgrade.
What are your opinions?
Mwyann said:
Hello there,
Since Android 10 is finally out in final version for our beloved Note 9 Exynos, how many of you are upgrading, and why? Also, for whom will choose to stick with Pie, again, why? And last, for those who are still on Oreo, what are you waiting for?
Personally, I didn't see that much new features that I really want to use right now. Mostly some tweakings here and there in some interfaces, but nothing really new, looks more like a modded version of Pie . I'm not a fan of the new gestures either, I think I'd keep the navbar anyway so... I'm gonna wait a moment before upgrading. And I'm mostly waiting for Swift Installer/substratum/Goodlock compatibility too, can't live without those
The thing I'd like to try out is DeX on PC, but again I don't really have a need for it. I'm more sad to lose Linux On Dex when I'll upgrade.
What are your opinions?
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Still no upgrade here ? middle east user N960F/DS
There is no question about should you upgrade or not. Unless you want to keep vulnerabilities, you have to update to the newer OS (if any) to get the latest security fixes.
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There is no question about should you upgrade or not. Unless you want to keep vulnerabilities, you have to update to the newer OS (if any) to get the latest security fixes.
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True. Or to get newer vulnerabilities ?
Will upgrade the second the official OTA drops. I'm a non-root user and have been waiting for the battery limiter feature that's finally present in One UI 2.0.
Edit: No toggleable charging cap in One UI 2.0. It seems the battery limiter means preventing draining your battery too low when using wireless power sharing in the S10 and up.
Waiting for a decent rom like The Galaxy Project to offer it. Only one so far is Dr Ketan's which won't even boot for me despite 3 clean download and install attempts.
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Waiting for a decent rom like The Galaxy Project to offer it. Only one so far is Dr Ketan's which won't even boot for me despite 3 clean download and install attempts.
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Have you updated your bootloaders and modem files to the latest version?
It usually works with the bootloops.
all the best
Except dex on windows and say good bye to linux on dex, nothing really new.
Only one big problem, as samsung block you to revert back to a stable pie os version. Latest pie is a no with bootloader 4.
Its all marketing I see
I received it yesterday in Morocco, I was using VPN (Germany) but I can't confirm, it is a bless, smooth and new features, I tried dex on pc : amazing, I still need to Check the battery
Just a quick update, to tell that I've finally upgraded because the "new update" notification kept showing up and I got bored of it. It went pretty well, and I'm trying to get used to the new gestures after all, I'll see if I can use them nicely. I'm only afraid to be confused when using my older S7E which doesn't have those. I'm using Hexed+ as a replacement for Swift Installer, waiting for the latter to be updated. Also waiting for Goodlock apps to be updated (for example, to put the clock on the right side again).
No upgrade yet i m from The Balkans. Still waiting for the update OneUI 2
No upgrade. i am afraid of battery life. On pie april patch, my phone battery last longer than pie july patch. I am living with it. but i do not want to lose more juice of battery. will upgrade if battery life improves.
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Just a quick update, to tell that I've finally upgraded because the "new update" notification kept showing up and I got bored of it. It went pretty well, and I'm trying to get used to the new gestures after all, I'll see if I can use them nicely. I'm only afraid to be confused when using my older S7E which doesn't have those. I'm using Hexed+ as a replacement for Swift Installer, waiting for the latter to be updated. Also waiting for Goodlock apps to be updated (for example, to put the clock on the right side again).
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Can you confirm what else was working in pie and not working in Q ?
Also give a try with linux on dex.
For clock on right you can use systemui tuner.
Software update notification can be disabled too.
LucianGL30 said:
Can you confirm what else was working in pie and not working in Q ?
Also give a try with linux on dex.
For clock on right you can use systemui tuner.
Software update notification can be disabled too.
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What's not working:
- Linux On Dex (displays an error like "you must be on latest firmware", so I guess it doesn't recognize the phone as compatible anymore, which is the case as I've read - it's a kernel issue)
- Substratum and other overlay systems like Swift Installer (you could still install unsigned overlays on Pie on the Note9 but that's a thing of the past now. Hopefully there's Synergy (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=projekt.samsung.theme.compiler) which allows using some overlays by using themes - the Android 10/OneUI 2.0 compatibility is in progress).
- Some SystemUI controls, like the clock position (I've tested it all, even the tips involving right_clock_position)
- Good Lock, which isn't updated yet (and it should solve the clock position problem)
So fat that's the only things I miss on my Pie install. Most of them will simply become available again soon, or can be replaced by other means, so that's not so bad. About the new gestures though, I miss my browser shortcut I had setup with NavStar, and also I kinda don't like the wasted space it introduces to allow for gestures. Well, I'll see when NavStar is updated it I simply go back to the navigation bar (I'll be able to use some gestures with OneHand Operation +).
About Linux On Dex problem, on my rooted S7E I'm using Linux Deploy (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.meefik.linuxdeploy) but on my unrooted Note9 I'm currently trying a combo of Termux (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux) and AnLinux (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=exa.lnx.a).
And I couldn't disable the notification, didn't find a way to do it at the time. I guess now it's too late
Mwyann said:
What's not working:
- Linux On Dex (displays an error like "you must be on latest firmware", so I guess it doesn't recognize the phone as compatible anymore, which is the case as I've read - it's a kernel issue)
- Substratum and other overlay systems like Swift Installer (you could still install unsigned overlays on Pie on the Note9 but that's a thing of the past now. Hopefully there's Synergy (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=projekt.samsung.theme.compiler) which allows using some overlays by using themes - the Android 10/OneUI 2.0 compatibility is in progress).
- Some SystemUI controls, like the clock position (I've tested it all, even the tips involving right_clock_position)
- Good Lock, which isn't updated yet (and it should solve the clock position problem)
So fat that's the only things I miss on my Pie install. Most of them will simply become available again soon, or can be replaced by other means, so that's not so bad. About the new gestures though, I miss my browser shortcut I had setup with NavStar, and also I kinda don't like the wasted space it introduces to allow for gestures. Well, I'll see when NavStar is updated it I simply go back to the navigation bar (I'll be able to use some gestures with OneHand Operation +).
About Linux On Dex problem, on my rooted S7E I'm using Linux Deploy (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.meefik.linuxdeploy) but on my unrooted Note9 I'm currently trying a combo of Termux (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux) and AnLinux (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=exa.lnx.a).
And I couldn't disable the notification, didn't find a way to do it at the time. I guess now it's too late
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What about SystemUI Tuner , doesn't let you to move the clock? It's on play store.
For linux like ubuntu kali debian arch parrot fedora manjaro give a try with AndroNix ,same is on playstore.
For navbar, you can get back as in pie from settings.
LucianGL30 said:
What about SystemUI Tuner , doesn't let you to move the clock? It's on play store.
For linux like ubuntu kali debian arch parrot fedora manjaro give a try with AndroNix ,same is on playstore.
For navbar, you can get back as in pie from settings.
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As I said in my reply, I did try SystemUI Tuner (I used it on Pie too), and it just doesn't work, the clock doesn't move anymore.
I indeed tried AndroNix and one of their optimized OS, it's good stuff
There was a adb command to move clock too
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There was a adb command to move clock too
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Looked for this too, but I always find commands that gives permissions to SystemUI, which doesn't really help If you have something to try out, I'd be happy (but if it involves the keyword right_clock_position I can already tell that it doesn't work)
Do not like an iOS like software experience thanks to Google wanting to copy Apple.
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Just a quick update, to tell that I've finally upgraded because the "new update" notification kept showing up and I got bored of it. It went pretty well, and I'm trying to get used to the new gestures after all, I'll see if I can use them nicely. I'm only afraid to be confused when using my older S7E which doesn't have those. I'm using Hexed+ as a replacement for Swift Installer, waiting for the latter to be updated. Also waiting for Goodlock apps to be updated (for example, to put the clock on the right side again).
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Updated and so far so good except that annoying white/ black bar at the bottom of Gboard . Any ideas on how to get rid of it ?
Has someone an idea why there is no sign of a custom ROM? I mean the phone is for a longer time on the market, we have a working TWRP and its the top of MI 11 lineup...
I would like too see custom ROMs because the original is full of annoying bugs.
Good question... there have been several threads now with a similar topic, none of them are being discussed thorougly. Try this one...
Lineage OS
Just a question for the future. Are there custom roms like Lineage OS coming for Mi 11 Ultra?
forum.xda-developers.com
I don't think custom roms will be easily doable on this device, especially the rear screen driver will be a pain in the ass
The rear display is almost useless. So i dont care about it. I mean, the display is from the watch but it can NOTHING. A whatsapp message will be showed for a few seconds, but i cant read it again. I cant check who called me (missed call), it doesnt work wit other messengers and so on.
RheinPirat said:
The rear display is almost useless. So i dont care about it. I mean, the display is from the watch but it can NOTHING. A whatsapp message will be showed for a few seconds, but i cant read it again. I cant check who called me (missed call), it doesnt work wit other messengers and so on.
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The rear screen functionality or lack thereof is nearly the worst thing about the phone
The only time I notice it's there is when it makes my Spotify songs skip by accident...
RheinPirat said:
The rear display is almost useless. So i dont care about it. I mean, the display is from the watch but it can NOTHING. A whatsapp message will be showed for a few seconds, but i cant read it again. I cant check who called me (missed call), it doesnt work wit other messengers and so on.
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Same here... I was reminded that the rear screen existed by accident. In addidtion to being utterly useless.
@xNAPx I'm not exactly sure about that statement. First off, there are devices that have an A/B-Partition-configuration and are running Lineageos and TWRP. Second, the Kernel and Vendor are available. Only extracting proprierity blobs might be an issue, meaning i might be unable to do it, but someone with more experience might be lucky. All in all, i don't see the problem with it.
Maybe it would be wise to think outside the box and try different solutions to get custom roms after all... maybe open up a donation pool for someone to look into it.
I don't have a mi 11 ultra but I find myself having kinda the same problem I have a note 20 ultra 5g we have twrp available but if you look at the development thread you won't find any custom roms. I honestly fear the custom rom community is dying out which is a shame as I think it's the best part of android..
Funny thing is,i f I go into the one plus 3/3t (THREE) thread, you still find updates for custom roms lol. A 5yo device.... (My previous phone before moving to Mi 11 Ultra)
xNAPx said:
Funny thing is,i f I go into the one plus 3/3t (THREE) thread, you still find updates for custom roms lol. A 5yo device.... (My previous phone before moving to Mi 11 Ultra)
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Over the years it has become more troublesome to unlock bootloaders etc and install custom ROMs and root modifications and in the old days the apps weren't smart enough to know if your phone was rooted but now many of them can detect a rooted phone and won't work (especially finance apps)
There are ways around the problem but most people don't have the time because they just want a phone that works (and don't have time to data wipe and reinstall everything over and over)
I expect this to get worse as Google is going to prevent side loading apps from alternative sources with a new app signature policy I was reading about
Samsung have improved the android experience a lot, following companies like OnePlus w cleaner interface and more features work out of the box that used to need a custom ROM to enable
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Over the years it has become more troublesome to unlock bootloaders etc and install custom ROMs and root modifications and in the old days the apps weren't smart enough to know if your phone was rooted but now many of them can detect a rooted phone and won't work (especially finance apps)
There are ways around the problem but most people don't have the time because they just want a phone that works (and don't have time to data wipe and reinstall everything over and over)
I expect this to get worse as Google is going to prevent side loading apps from alternative sources with a new app signature policy I was reading about
Samsung have improved the android experience a lot, following companies like OnePlus w cleaner interface and more features work out of the box that used to need a custom ROM to enable
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You're absolutely right.. It's a shame but it's going that way to be honest with my note 20 between hex theme engine and the goodlock app thingy from Samsung this is the first phone i've had in 10 years I didn't find a need to root (yet) so I guess we have that things working better out of the box
Well whatever they do, these companies always give phone full of bloated **** and ads. Even with root getting rid of some apps gives you bootloops. A custom ROM will always be clean and minimal. My latest AOSP ROM on One plus 3 was having only 170 apps and services in total, my Mi 11 Ultra over 300. I don't know why people use financial apps while you can do everything with your browser. But it is not this the point.At least someone with knowledge and experience could at least find ways to clean a stock ROM to AOSP or giving custom versions. I know there is Xiaomi.EU but it is based exclusively on China Version and also is plenty of stock services.
mi 10 ultra took awhile to get the first custom roms
RheinPirat said:
Has someone an idea why there is no sign of a custom ROM? I mean the phone is for a longer time on the market, we have a working TWRP and its the top of MI 11 lineup...
I would like too see custom ROMs because the original is full of annoying bugs.
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I have been a member of this website for several years, back then there was a fibrant community of phone enthusiats and developers here. That doesn't appear to be the case any longer. Most stock roms today have many of the features that people used third party, custom roms for and fewer manufacturers today allow the bootloader to be unlocked. So with less demand, there are fewer devs.
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Well whatever they do, these companies always give phone full of bloated **** and ads. Even with root getting rid of some apps gives you bootloops. A custom ROM will always be clean and minimal. My latest AOSP ROM on One plus 3 was having only 170 apps and services in total, my Mi 11 Ultra over 300. I don't know why people use financial apps while you can do everything with your browser. But it is not this the point.At least someone with knowledge and experience could at least find ways to clean a stock ROM to AOSP or giving custom versions. I know there is Xiaomi.EU but it is based exclusively on China Version and also is plenty of stock services.
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Ads?
I haven't seen an ad yet...
You must be doing something drastically wrong
Any miui apps that eu ROM devs leave in could be removed and replaced with similar ones from the playstore, like calculator, calendar, dialer, sms messages, contacts, file explorer, gallery etc
These are all critical for a fully functional device but if you don't like them you can remove them via adb and add some that you prefer from the playstore
AFAIK, the kernel source code is indeed out so we're really just missing developers that own this phone. Unfortunately, I'm learning python and not android related coding so as much as I want to start to make a custom rom, I wouldn't be able to do so till I finished learning python.
This link seems to be a good start
EDIT: Crap. You're going to have to do this as well to create the device tree for lineage os
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Ads?
I haven't seen an ad yet...
You must be doing something drastically wrong
Any miui apps that eu ROM devs leave in could be removed and replaced with similar ones from the playstore, like calculator, calendar, dialer, sms messages, contacts, file explorer, gallery etc
These are all critical for a fully functional device but if you don't like them you can remove them via adb and add some that you prefer from the playstore
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The Xiaomi, EU rom has all ads removed plus a majority can be disabled and if you root the phone, all can be disabled/removed. The stock EEA and Global roms have ads, but during the setup process, you can opt-out of getting them. All apps can either be removed or disabled using ADB command's. Also comparing the overall size of a rom from a old OnePlus 3 to a rom from the Mi 11 Ultra is totally unfair, as well as, unrealistic, as total size of a rom has nothing to do with the amount of bloat it may contain. Those extra files are because of the extra features in today's roms. They could be optimization/ram management files or dark mode/customization files or files related to the screen refresh rate, AOD, etc... All features that were unavailable in a OnePlus 3 era rom.
I would also like to point out that in order to do a well done custom/lineage rom, that person needs to have/buy the device or be donate to them and were talking about a expensive phone.
As a owner, I would be biases if i say i would be interested in this having custom roms, on the other hand its a phone that has a lot of potential and a lot of road for bug fixing stuff.
Luckily the same rom can be use for either Mi 11 Pro or Mi 11 Ultra since they share similarities and some model device name, and someone with the expertise goes for it.
i'm also sad there is no custom rom, just bought mi 11 ultra 3 days ago, and in process of unlocking it {china rom} with lots of crazy chinese lines that i didn't understand, if only china rom would automatically translate everything when i switched the language to english, i would prefer china rom because of the battery endurance it gives me. but chinese apps/bugs etc. is troublesome so im waiting 1 week to unlocked it and opt for global or eu rom instead.
Hope a clean rom like Elite rom with my poco x3 pro will also be available to mi 11 ultra.
I'm hoping for a pure Android ROM at some point. MIUI is not the worst and it actually has some nice features but it's too fancy. Just plain old Android like the Android One phones would be a nice choice to have.
Are you saying One UI is plain? It's a very good skin, but plain it's not.
Device: Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra
Carrier: T-Mobile
Rom: Xiaomi.eu (12.5.4 Stable version)
So last year when I was unable to purchase a Samsung 21 ultra I decided to look at other devices and purchased the Xiaomi with the understanding that it was a good device and the .eu version ROM is relatively good. After having the device with this ROM on it for several months I find it overall lacking and wanting to switch to something else or just load the default Xiaomi Global ROM on it.
I've heard of other ROMs like Pixel Experience and LineageOS but when I try to research it I'm finding unreliable resources. Due to this I figured I'd ask a few questions here. After the questions I'll leave a pro cons list of the device and the ROM Version I've been using.
- Does changing ROMs change the bands used from a reception standpoint?
- Does anyone else have my device and used another ROM? If so what do you like about it.
- Does anyone have experience or know reliable sources to research other ROMs for my specific device?
- has anyone that used the .eu ROM switched to back to the original global version and did it change anything regarding battery life or all functionality with recent updates?
Pros:
-fast charging is amazing fully charged from less than 10% in 20 min or less
-best camera I've found on the market with more features than I you'd even think of!
-smooth functionality for native applications
-abundance if settings for security that while can be cumbersome give you a lot of choices about app access and how they interact (with other apps, home automation, etc)
Cons:
-battery life doesn't last more than 4-6 hours with use of light gaming even with settings turned mostly to power save
- .eu Google integration is very clunky and seems to conflict with devices natural system which leads to missed/texts calls, reception issues, delayed or poor integration with other apps like Android auto
- odd bugs happen where mutli screen will randomly turn on or keyboard in text apps (all of them) will randomly disappear and you either need to restart device or go through multi-step process to bring back up
-Too many security settings. While it's nice having higher levels of control it would be ideal to have the ability to set a default security level when downloading applications vs having to do make changes when you download or after the fact
Elul said:
Device: Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra
Carrier: T-Mobile
Rom: Xiaomi.eu (12.5.4 Stable version)
So last year when I was unable to purchase a Samsung 21 ultra I decided to look at other devices and purchased the Xiaomi with the understanding that it was a good device and the .eu version ROM is relatively good. After having the device with this ROM on it for several months I find it overall lacking and wanting to switch to something else or just load the default Xiaomi Global ROM on it.
I've heard of other ROMs like Pixel Experience and LineageOS but when I try to research it I'm finding unreliable resources. Due to this I figured I'd ask a few questions here. After the questions I'll leave a pro cons list of the device and the ROM Version I've been using.
- Does changing ROMs change the bands used from a reception standpoint?
- Does anyone else have my device and used another ROM? If so what do you like about it.
- Does anyone have experience or know reliable sources to research other ROMs for my specific device?
- has anyone that used the .eu ROM switched to back to the original global version and did it change anything regarding battery life or all functionality with recent updates?
Pros:
-fast charging is amazing fully charged from less than 10% in 20 min or less
-best camera I've found on the market with more features than I you'd even think of!
-smooth functionality for native applications
-abundance if settings for security that while can be cumbersome give you a lot of choices about app access and how they interact (with other apps, home automation, etc)
Cons:
-battery life doesn't last more than 4-6 hours with use of light gaming even with settings turned mostly to power save
- .eu Google integration is very clunky and seems to conflict with devices natural system which leads to missed/texts calls, reception issues, delayed or poor integration with other apps like Android auto
- odd bugs happen where mutli screen will randomly turn on or keyboard in text apps (all of them) will randomly disappear and you either need to restart device or go through multi-step process to bring back up
-Too many security settings. While it's nice having higher levels of control it would be ideal to have the ability to set a default security level when downloading applications vs having to do make changes when you download or after the fact
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Hi Elul,
First of all, you are on Xiaomi.EU very old version, SEARIOUSLY OLD, right now it is 12.5.20, which results in a very old review of your device, many things has changed.
I use this device since May, I am using global device with global rom (international version). there are different roms for this device as follows:
-international version RKAMIXM
- INDIAN version RKAINXM
-Indonesian version RKAIDXM
-Europe official version RKAEUXM
-Chinese version RKACNXM
-Euro rom (not official) which is RKACNXM modified
I've done a research on this device bands and there are different outcomes, CN and global are all using same bands. or that international version got different band coverage than CN. you can search online and you'll find same result.
I've checked on T-Mobile coverage online and you are covered mainly on everything missing 2 bands on 5G: https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/xiaomi-mi-11
Check T-Mobile section.
As of my experience, my device is the international global version, I've switched to EU rom (not official) and tried it for about a month, and I regret it. switched back to the official global rom and since then device has improved by much. I found EU. rom is so buggy and battery drains really fast, even though i've removed bloatware which did not help. and memory management is pretty messed up. with global version i have late updates but very stable device, smooth, very good battery performance, camera is really nice (i know it is behind CN and Xiaomi.eu versions but still really good). so as of experience, i'd say official roms are best.
A bit of research in this forum and you'll find all possible roms you can install, and methods to install them, issues you might face and how to avoid, and it is really simple. spend a day of reading here and there in XDA and you'll be surprised of what information you can find.
Update your device to latest rom of EU version which you are on, and you'll eliminate a few Cons, and if you jump to global rom, you'll eliminate all of them except camera will fall a little behind (still not a Con, just falling a little behind CN version).
At least this is my experience (and a few others) with the device. other people might have different thoughts regarding how efficient is EU (unofficial rom).
hope this helps.
hassanaliyeh said:
Hi Elul,
First of all, you are on Xiaomi.EU very old version, SEARIOUSLY OLD, right now it is 12.5.20, which results in a very old review of your device, many things has changed.
I use this device since May, I am using global device with global rom (international version). there are different roms for this device as follows:
-international version RKAMIXM
- INDIAN version RKAINXM
-Indonesian version RKAIDXM
-Europe official version RKAEUXM
-Chinese version RKACNXM
-Euro rom (not official) which is RKACNXM modified
I've done a research on this device bands and there are different outcomes, CN and global are all using same bands. or that international version got different band coverage than CN. you can search online and you'll find same result.
I've checked on T-Mobile coverage online and you are covered mainly on everything missing 2 bands on 5G: https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/xiaomi-mi-11
Check T-Mobile section.
As of my experience, my device is the international global version, I've switched to EU rom (not official) and tried it for about a month, and I regret it. switched back to the official global rom and since then device has improved by much. I found EU. rom is so buggy and battery drains really fast, even though i've removed bloatware which did not help. and memory management is pretty messed up. with global version i have late updates but very stable device, smooth, very good battery performance, camera is really nice (i know it is behind CN and Xiaomi.eu versions but still really good). so as of experience, i'd say official roms are best.
A bit of research in this forum and you'll find all possible roms you can install, and methods to install them, issues you might face and how to avoid, and it is really simple. spend a day of reading here and there in XDA and you'll be surprised of what information you can find.
Update your device to latest rom of EU version which you are on, and you'll eliminate a few Cons, and if you jump to global rom, you'll eliminate all of them except camera will fall a little behind (still not a Con, just falling a little behind CN version).
At least this is my experience (and a few others) with the device. other people might have different thoughts regarding how efficient is EU (unofficial rom).
hope this helps.
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Thank you so much for the info. Can you tell me about the functionality difference between the .eu and current global version you've seen?
Specifically integration with Google apps (photos, auto, etc)
Elul said:
Thank you so much for the info. Can you tell me about the functionality difference between the .eu and current global version you've seen?
Specifically integration with Google apps (photos, auto, etc)
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With global version, they come preloaded with google services, and set as defaults, (except for gallery, music player, and video player), that can easily be changed through settings to whatever app you have. but for me I replaced only gallery, even though gallery has some really great features which I use sometimes, but because all my photos on the cloud I have to stick with google photos. Video player is really good, music player I don't use since I use youtube music.
default search engine is google and no Chinese topics or wording anywhere at all.
all of useless MI apps are not installed by default.
Simply saying, a normal global device, not a Chinese one.
Elul said:
Device: Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra
Carrier: T-Mobile
Rom: Xiaomi.eu (12.5.4 Stable version)
So last year when I was unable to purchase a Samsung 21 ultra I decided to look at other devices and purchased the Xiaomi with the understanding that it was a good device and the .eu version ROM is relatively good. After having the device with this ROM on it for several months I find it overall lacking and wanting to switch to something else or just load the default Xiaomi Global ROM on it.
I've heard of other ROMs like Pixel Experience and LineageOS but when I try to research it I'm finding unreliable resources. Due to this I figured I'd ask a few questions here. After the questions I'll leave a pro cons list of the device and the ROM Version I've been using.
- Does changing ROMs change the bands used from a reception standpoint?
- Does anyone else have my device and used another ROM? If so what do you like about it.
- Does anyone have experience or know reliable sources to research other ROMs for my specific device?
- has anyone that used the .eu ROM switched to back to the original global version and did it change anything regarding battery life or all functionality with recent updates?
Pros:
-fast charging is amazing fully charged from less than 10% in 20 min or less
-best camera I've found on the market with more features than I you'd even think of!
-smooth functionality for native applications
-abundance if settings for security that while can be cumbersome give you a lot of choices about app access and how they interact (with other apps, home automation, etc)
Cons:
-battery life doesn't last more than 4-6 hours with use of light gaming even with settings turned mostly to power save
- .eu Google integration is very clunky and seems to conflict with devices natural system which leads to missed/texts calls, reception issues, delayed or poor integration with other apps like Android auto
- odd bugs happen where mutli screen will randomly turn on or keyboard in text apps (all of them) will randomly disappear and you either need to restart device or go through multi-step process to bring back up
-Too many security settings. While it's nice having higher levels of control it would be ideal to have the ability to set a default security level when downloading applications vs having to do make changes when you download or after the fact
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Oh lord. You need to update to the latest. EU rom.
12.5.20 contains fixes for all the things you mentioned, plus already features the Global Enhanced version tweaks to performance with refinements to make it even better.
If you switch to a Global stock rom on a China only variant, you'll loose the ability to use Google Pay and a lot of features so only do so if you're happy to lose out.
As your complaints stem from just not updating for months and months it's not something you'll solve changing roms, instead install the. EU rom update via TWRP.
I'm in the US on t-mobile with a china model flashed with the global ROM. you will not have access to 5G. It is however, very easy to root it and have no problems with google pay or any banking apps.
mstrflsh said:
Oh lord. You need to update to the latest. EU rom.
12.5.20 contains fixes for all the things you mentioned, plus already features the Global Enhanced version tweaks to performance with refinements to make it even better.
If you switch to a Global stock rom on a China only variant, you'll loose the ability to use Google Pay and a lot of features so only do so if you're happy to lose out.
As your complaints stem from just not updating for months and months it's not something you'll solve changing roms, instead install the. EU rom update via TWRP.
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Is there a way to auto update the .EU ROM or does it have to always manually done?
Elul said:
Is there a way to auto update the .EU ROM or does it have to always manually done?
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?
With twrp installed, auto update is semi-auto already
I'm unfamiliar with that is there a guide you'd recommend?
Elul said:
I'm unfamiliar with that is there a guide you'd recommend?
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what guide?
Just follow the installation guide of xiaomi.eu. That's all
Elul said:
I'm unfamiliar with that is there a guide you'd recommend?
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How did you end up flashing the EU rom to begin with, was it via Fastboot or TWRP?
tensux said:
I'm in the US on t-mobile with a china model flashed with the global ROM. you will not have access to 5G. It is however, very easy to root it and have no problems with google pay or any banking apps.
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Hello, I have the Chinese version, which originally came already with the bootloader unlock and with the global version unlock. I really like the global version, but couldn't use a couple of my banking apps, I tried installing magisk and the fix to hidden it but for some reason the device wouldn't pass the safetynet test causing my device not to be certified and my bank apps not to work. Because of this I had to move to xiaomi.eu version, now it pass the safetynet test and all my bank apps work as expected but I really prefer the global version. Is there an easy way to install the global version but passing the safetynet test so my bank apps would work? Like I mentioned I tried different guides to install magisk and the fix to hide it but it wouldn't work, not sure if I did something wrong.
eoga said:
Hello, I have the Chinese version, which originally came already with the bootloader unlock and with the global version unlock. I really like the global version, but couldn't use a couple of my banking apps, I tried installing magisk and the fix to hidden it but for some reason the device wouldn't pass the safetynet test causing my device not to be certified and my bank apps not to work. Because of this I had to move to xiaomi.eu version, now it pass the safetynet test and all my bank apps work as expected but I really prefer the global version. Is there an easy way to install the global version but passing the safetynet test so my bank apps would work? Like I mentioned I tried different guides to install magisk and the fix to hide it but it wouldn't work, not sure if I did something wrong.
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did you use the magisk "universal safetynet fix" module?
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did you use the magisk "universal safetynet fix" module?
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Yes, I follow this video and others, but for some reason didn't work for me. It did show everything installed correctly but it just wouldn't passed the test and my bank apps wouldt work
eoga said:
Yes, I follow this video and others, but for some reason didn't work for me. It did show everything installed correctly but it just wouldn't passed the test and my bank apps wouldt work
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not sure why it didn't work. prolly worth another try
Use V1.2.0 of the SafetyNet fix. Not the latest version (2.2.1).
https://github.com/kdrag0n/safetynet-fix/releases/download/v1.2.0/safetynet-fix-v1.2.0.zip
Just remove the latest, reboot, then install 1.2.0
mstrflsh said:
Oh lord. You need to update to the latest. EU rom.
12.5.20 contains fixes for all the things you mentioned, plus already features the Global Enhanced version tweaks to performance with refinements to make it even better.
If you switch to a Global stock rom on a China only variant, you'll loose the ability to use Google Pay and a lot of features so only do so if you're happy to lose out.
As your complaints stem from just not updating for months and months it's not something you'll solve changing roms, instead install the. EU rom update via TWRP.
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Stable 12.5.20 is better than WEEKLY 21.12.30 ? 12.5.20 must be installed by twrp and Weekly 21.12.30 must be installed by fastboot? Yes?
Yes thats right
Chicko24 said:
Yes thats right
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Thank you. Do you prefer WEEKLY 21.12.30 VS Stable 12.5.20?
bmwjavier45 said:
Thank you. Do you prefer WEEKLY 21.12.30 VS Stable 12.5.20?
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1st, U must understand what is weekly rom and what is stable rom
And depend on what u need, u will find the most suitable rom for you