Question Sim pin into the wrong (mic) hole - Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra

I accidentaly pushed the sim pin deeply into the mic hole instead of the sim hole. Can it damage the mic?

Sigray said:
I accidentaly pushed the sim pin deeply into the mic hole instead of the sim hole. Can it damage the mic?
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ouch unlucky, of course it "can" damage the mic, but a simple way to find out would be to try using the voice recorder

gav83collins said:
ouch unlucky, of course it "can" damage the mic, but a simple way to find out would be to try using the voice recorder
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Anyone who has stuck their SIM tool in a phone's mic hole needs to watch this new JRE video
Breathe a sigh of relief
www.androidpolice.com

Sigray said:
https://witww.androidpolice.com/any...s-mic-hole-needs-to-watch-this-new-jre-video/
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it was either a very stupid oversight, or genius foresight by samsung to put them so close together on some devices

gav83collins said:
it was either a very stupid oversight, or genius foresight by samsung to put them so close together on some devices
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I asked about the Samsung support. It is impossible to damage the mic with sim pin.

You CANNOT damage it. The hole leading to the mic is bent at some point so that a needle cannot touch the mics.

Don't worry. It's same for S21 Ultra like S22. You can't damage with sim pin.

Sigray said:
I accidentaly pushed the sim pin deeply into the mic hole instead of the sim hole. Can it damage the mic?
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Ah the old "putting your tool in the wrong hole". We all did it at some point mate. You will be fine

Teio said:
Ah the old "putting your tool in the wrong hole". We all did it at some point mate. You will be fine
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Is there any dust filter in the "tunnel"? Maybe its damaged

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Microphone destroyed ?

Dear friends
Just gotten my new S7 edge and instead of putting the pin to the SIM card
hole I putted in the microphone hole :crying:
Do you believe I have damaged the microphone ? And can this been repair ?
I tried to ask if calling somebody and closing the down microphone he hear me
and he mention that my voice was far away and with interruptions .
Any advise and help :crying:
Sounds Like an exchange for a new phone may be in your future... I Can sympathize with you.... I can see how people could make that mistake.
Best of luck.
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minoch said:
Sounds Like an exchange for a new phone may be in your future... I Can sympathize with you.... I can see how people could make that mistake.
Best of luck.
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I almost did that earlier today when swapping the sim from my 6P to the S7E (I change between the two phones often). Samsung should have put the sim tray on the side to avoid that, or made the mic hole a different size the tool wouldn't fit in it.
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Lol I did that exact samething when I got mine. I don't think I hurt mine though. Guess I got lucky because I really jammed it in there good. The phone screamed "wrong hole!"
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I did this a few times with my Note 5 and it worked Fine.
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do you think that samsung does this on purpose?
I did the same thing but it didn't seem to affect anything. I haven't tested the mic specifically but I ran it underwater and my phone didn't fry so I assume if it still is water resistant there was no way I could have destroyed the underlying mic or its protective water resistant barrier. When I first did it I found a post mentioning that the top mic on most phones is in the shape of an L, so if this is true, then all you were doing was stabbing the housing but there is no way to physically stab the mic with a simple pin insertion. Either way I have 14 days so if I did stab it and destroy the contents, ill exchange it.
busab said:
Lol I did that exact samething when I got mine. I don't think I hurt mine though. Guess I got lucky because I really jammed it in there good. The phone screamed "wrong hole!"
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That's what she said...
Thanks a lot gays :good:
I hope them that I haven't destroyed the microphone !
And I am happy to see that I am not the only one that have made that mistake
snobrdr2324 said:
I did the same thing but it didn't seem to affect anything. I haven't tested the mic specifically but I ran it underwater and my phone didn't fry so I assume if it still is water resistant there was no way I could have destroyed the underlying mic or its protective water resistant barrier. When I first did it I found a post mentioning that the top mic on most phones is in the shape of an L, so if this is true, then all you were doing was stabbing the housing but there is no way to physically stab the mic with a simple pin insertion. Either way I have 14 days so if I did stab it and destroy the contents, ill exchange it.
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sorry to pop the discussion up, but today I did the same thing (pin the mic hole instead of the sim tray), but I felt something moving inside while I was pushing..that happened to you too? I read you tested it underwater (that's my only concern, since I tested the mic and it works fine and I believe I just only removed the "water proof" seal)
n0ise82 said:
sorry to pop the discussion up, but today I did the same thing (pin the mic hole instead of the sim tray), but I felt something moving inside while I was pushing..that happened to you too? I read you tested it underwater (that's my only concern, since I tested the mic and it works fine and I believe I just only removed the "water proof" seal)
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I didn't notice anything moving around in there after I did it. I haven't noticed any major side effects thus far so I am going to assume it didn't damage anything considering the mic still works as well as the waterproofing. If something is moving then I would be nervous to try it underwater, but if you have insurance I'd test it and have it replaced if it isn't waterproof anymore.
snobrdr2324 said:
I didn't notice anything moving around in there after I did it. I haven't noticed any major side effects thus far so I am going to assume it didn't damage anything considering the mic still works as well as the waterproofing. If something is moving then I would be nervous to try it underwater, but if you have insurance I'd test it and have it replaced if it isn't waterproof anymore.
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Thanks for the reply, I meant, when I pushed the clip inside the mic, I felt something "going away" down the hole, maybe some kind of seal? Goretex layer? I was wondering if you felt the same when you pushed the first time inside that hole (lol it seems naughty).
I don't have an insurance so I can't try if it fries or not under the water
n0ise82 said:
Thanks for the reply, I meant, when I pushed the clip inside the mic, I felt something "going away" down the hole, maybe some kind of seal? Goretex layer? I was wondering if you felt the same when you pushed the first time inside that hole (lol it seems naughty).
I don't have an insurance so I can't try if it fries or not under the water
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It's been a while now, but I don't recall noticing anything move as I pressed it in either. It felt like the sim ejector port that I thought it was until I realized nothing was popping out. I pressed firmly but not forcefully, so if I didn't break anything then I bet you didn't either, but I could be wrong since I don't actually know what is going on in that mic hole.
The best thing to do would be to ask for an exchange within the 14 day return period.
This says it's not harmful on most phones: https://youtu.be/85p_oFk595I?t=236

Top right hole on Note 8

I pocked it with the sim card tool should I be worried?
lostrg said:
I pocked it with the sim card tool should I be worried?
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If you poked it in too far then, yes, you have a problem. That is the top mic and if you did poke far enough in the hole it could have damaged the mic while also making the phone less water resistant.

Poking the sim card tool in the wrong hole

So when activating the phone, I foolishly followed the Verizon tech's advice to poke the sim tool in both holes in the top. Doing my research post-activation, I see that I poked the tool into the mic.
Likely damage? There are two mics, but the one on top surely has a slightly different purpose. How can I verify if I did any damage?
LOL - I see a ton of posts on this site and reddit with people that have done the same thing. Still would love to know what the top mic is for and ideas for testing for damage.
Likely candidates for damage are "waterproofing", the mic itself, fabric, etc.
If my eyesight and the light were better I'd have noticed the outline of the tray, but couldn't see it. I should know better than to listen to a phone tech for advice like that.
mseifert said:
LOL - I see a ton of posts on this site and reddit with people that have done the same thing. Still would love to know what the top mic is for and ideas for testing for damage.
Likely candidates for damage are "waterproofing", the mic itself, fabric, etc.
If my eyesight and the light were better I'd have noticed the outline of the tray, but couldn't see it. I should know better than to listen to a phone tech for advice like that.
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Noise cancelation, most likely. As to testing for damage, that may prove difficult.
Mostly, those mics aren't directly behind the hole in the frame. They're mounted on top of the PCB and a 90° plastic tube is glued on them to prevent dust, sand and poking derps to damage the microphones. I don't know how Samsung did this in the S10 series.
Testing noise reduction microphones isn't possible directly, just when in use. They're not used by Android, they're used by the actual sound driver and can't be controlled directly via the OS.
Jerryrigeverything did a video on this (in a video he talked about it not a full video on it) the phone is designed for people who do this and it doesn't have any effect. The top mic is probably used for both noise canceling and when you are in a loud environment and have your hand covering the bottom of your phone (like a concert)
If it was my phone and I had done this specifically at the direction of a Verizon representative and it could be verified phone was damaged as a result, I would be trying to get them to replace phone. A tech uninformed enough to suggest a stupid move like this will probably lie and say they never instructed you to do this. Maybe poking tech in wrong hole would be fitting revenge.
LMAO.. i did that to my wife and she liked it.
bsam55 said:
If it was my phone and I had done this specifically at the direction of a Verizon representative and it could be verified phone was damaged as a result, I would be trying to get them to replace phone. A tech uninformed enough to suggest a stupid move like this will probably lie and say they never instructed you to do this. Maybe poking tech in wrong hole would be fitting revenge.
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If Verizon had actually sold me the phone, I'd consider it. But since I bought it directly from Samsung (it was a $300 off deal!) I don't believe I'd end up with a replacement. The first thing I have to get over is feeling so stupid. I had read something somewhere about dual sim slots - probably on some future phone - and because of the symmetry thought that there were two of them.
Zmantech said:
Jerryrigeverything did a video on this (in a video he talked about it not a full video on it) the phone is designed for people who do this and it doesn't have any effect. The top mic is probably used for both noise canceling and when you are in a loud environment and have your hand covering the bottom of your phone (like a concert)
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It makes sense they would design the phone to prevent such a common mistake. Why design two identical holes in the top where one opens the tray and one destroys a mic? Reminds me of a Dilbert strip. Thanks for the assurance. It helps ease that worried feel.
Player04 said:
LMAO.. i did that to my wife and she liked it.
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hilarious
Simple, just use the built in voice recorder in interview mode.
Did the same thing the very next second I unboxed it...it seems to me there is no damage...but I cant verify it....thinking of it, I probably haven't shot a single video from this phone since the time I got it (its launch)
Player04 said:
LMAO.. i did that to my wife and she liked it.
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I have never seen a better reply on XDA ever. That's funny.
Wrong hole compilation
Uhh
Wow, this is why there are 2 mics, one on bottom, one on top...It is simply for STEREO sound during video recording.
I did this on the bottom hole ?
But seriously I worry now about waterproof. I tested the mic by recording a video in landscape talking in stereo in both mics and playback sounded fine.
Nope. The top microphone is for noise cancellation during a phone conversation on speaker. Your other party will hear a lot of uncancelled background noise.
Ejector tool cannot damage the mic
mseifert said:
So when activating the phone, I foolishly followed the Verizon tech's advice to poke the sim tool in both holes in the top. Doing my research post-activation, I see that I poked the tool into the mic.
Likely damage? There are two mics, but the one on top surely has a slightly different purpose. How can I verify if I did any damage?
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YouTube at about 3:52 into the video
Huawei P30 Pro Teardown! - How does a 'Periscope Camera' work?
This answers the age old question, "I mistakenly poked the mic hole with the ejector tool, did I damage the mic?"... The answer is no... I'm sure all phone manufacturers thought of this... on pretty much every phone, the actual mic is off to the side internally...
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YouTube at about 3:52 into the video
Huawei P30 Pro Teardown! - How does a 'Periscope Camera' work?
This answers the age old question, "I mistakenly poked the mic hole with the ejector tool, did I damage the mic?"... The answer is no... I'm sure all phone manufacturers thought of this... on pretty much every phone, the actual mic is off to the side internally...
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Probably toasted the water protection though.
redoregon said:
Probably toasted the water protection though.
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Nope... Watch the video... No waterproofing damage either...
So I did the same thing too!
While distracted, I used a sewing needle to try to open the sim card port and accidentally jammed it in the hole by the charging port!
Whoops!
So checking out this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHzmFPoZbCA&feature=youtu.be&t=293
It looks like I ran into a metal box looking thing on the mother board (I think that is what I was pressing depressingly firmly into trying to get the sim tray to open.) . IO think that is the mic chip, but not the opening? So did I bump that, but not damage waterproofing and not damage the mic?
I just do not know what I was stressing and if I should worry. I was using a sharp needle, but I do not think i punctured anything!

Question Small Hole Next to SIM hole (microphone?)

I just now tried to take my SIM card out and realized I put the pin into the hole that is next to the SIM card holder by accident. I pushed hard enough to recognize that it wasn't the correct hole.
I made a voice recording after I did this and it seemed to record my voice correctly.
Has anyone else done this with or without damage to the device? It felt a little rubbery when I put the pin in , as if I was trying to puncture rubber
ughhhhhh
Do not worry. the microphone is to the side of the hole. So no damage is done. Rest easy.
blogslogger said:
Do not worry. the microphone is to the side of the hole. So no damage is done. Rest easy.
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That's awesome - when I read an article about concerns for the microphone hole being positioned next tot he sim hole I kinda freaked out , even though it appeared to work ok. These things ain't cheap -- lol
jcrompton said:
That's awesome - when I read an article about concerns for the microphone hole being positioned next tot he sim hole I kinda freaked out , even though it appeared to work ok. These things ain't cheap -- lol
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It's not hard to do. Samsung should just combine them and make a dual purpose hole
Literally did the exact same thing yesterday when my phone arrived and felt sick at the thought of what mystery hole I was poking
ephumuris said:
Literally did the exact same thing yesterday when my phone arrived and felt sick at the thought of what mystery hole I was poking
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Why doesn't Samsung have an audible "wrong hole" warning message?
Did the same thing on my note 10+ when it was brand new. To make matters worse you actually need to apply a fair amount of force to the right hole for it to open

Question Put sim pin into mic hole with some pressure

As the title says, I pushed the sim pin into the mic hole, exerting some pressure before realising it was the wrong hole.
Very careless of me, but the mic works fine, but will it have damaged the waterproofing?
The holes are too close to each other!
kai666 said:
As the title says, I pushed the sim pin into the mic hole, exerting some pressure before realising it was the wrong hole.
Very careless of me, but the mic works fine, but will it have damaged the waterproofing?
The holes are too close to each other!
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Bah-ha-ha-ha done the same thing on my Samsung N10+. The phone should a wrong hole warning
Likely there is no damage as they probably have a false stop that shields the core components as do Samsung's. They know it's going to happen.
kai666 said:
As the title says, I pushed the sim pin into the mic hole, exerting some pressure before realising it was the wrong hole.
Very careless of me, but the mic works fine, but will it have damaged the waterproofing?
The holes are too close to each other!
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My FInd X3 Pro was developing a tiny black dot on the screen, and it was still under warranty with days left, so I booked it for repair. The technician was repairing my phone right in front of me, and he poked the wrong hole while ejecting the sim card as well
JerryRigEverything pointed out this issue on one of his YouTube videos.. and he tried it on various brand of phones, and all of them were safe after the microphone hole was violated by sim card ejector tool.
All of the manufacturers tested on the video designed the actual waterproofing mesh and microphone itself on top or bottom, perpendicular to the shaft, not at the end of the shaft. Some manufacturers even made the shaft gets smaller so the ejector tool can't get to the very end., but for those which the ejector can make it to the very end, its still safe and the waterproofing membrane still intact.
Oppo wasn't one of the phones tested, but OnePlus was, and I can't imagine Oppo is doing things differently.
Thanks for the replies, slightly reassured by the OnePlus test in the video, but I guess the only real way of knowing is to dunk the phone in water.
As I had no plans to submerge it anyway, I don't think I'm that brave to try it at the moment, just in case OnePlus and oppo are built differently
Just for anyone else who does the same thing, I spoke to oppo support, who would only say if the microphone is still working, then it should still be waterproof.
So fingers crossed!
The "tunnel" is at the 90° so everything should be fine

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