Hello there, I'm planning to switch form my Mi 11 to a S20 FE 5g. Mainly because battery life and the option to use sd cards. My question is why there aren't any AOSP based custom ROMs? This phone seems pretty popular and isn't that expensive compared to other similar speced models.
Kizaru-sama said:
Hello there, I'm planning to switch form my Mi 11 to a S20 FE 5g. Mainly because battery life and the option to use sd cards. My question is why there aren't any AOSP based custom ROMs? This phone seems pretty popular and isn't that expensive compared to other similar speced models.
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simple answer, it's proved really hard to get one basic feature to work on 2 separate roms. hopefully this changes one day.
3mel said:
simple answer, it's proved really hard to get one basic feature to work on 2 separate roms. hopefully this changes one day.
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What basic feature? 2 seperate roms - because of the soc?
Kizaru-sama said:
What basic feature? 2 seperate roms - because of the soc?
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the basic feature is network connection/signal. 2 separate roms, pixel experience and lineage.
3mel said:
the basic feature is network connection/signal. 2 separate roms, pixel experience and lineage.
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What would be needed for it to work or what's not allowing it to?
Letrix said:
What would be needed for it to work or what's not allowing it to?
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I guess a better understanding of how Samsung's blobs or drivers work.
apparently Samsung goes out of their way to make this stuff difficult.
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Hello
I have been looking for a stock rom for the note 8 and i haven't found any, i thought i would find a lineage os rom but there was nothing..
Is there a stock android rom for the note 8?!
Useless on a Note !
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abdulrrahman said:
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I have been looking for a stock rom for the note 8 and i haven't found any, i thought i would find a lineage os rom but there was nothing..
Is there a stock android rom for the note 8?!
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By "stock rom" do you mean vanilla ? , then why did you get a samsung galaxy device? Specially a note series one? Better get a pixel or something like it, why getting a samsung galaxy note device, to later downgrade it?
winol said:
By "stock rom" do you mean vanilla ? , then why did you get a samsung galaxy device? Specially a note series one? Better get a pixel or something like it, why getting a samsung galaxy note device, to later downgrade it?
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I have never understood why people do this.
They want some high end phone first. Then suddenly learn about custom roms and are like i want to flash this now.
Better donate the extra money to devs here instead of spending stupidly.
I'm just adding my sentiment. If you want stock Android, get a Pixel device or Motorola or Nokia or almost anything else. You buy a Samsung device for the features they add. If you don't like or use those features, then don't buy something for $1,000 just to essentially cripple it afterwards.
abdulrrahman said:
Hello
I have been looking for a stock rom for the note 8 and i haven't found any, i thought i would find a lineage os rom but there was nothing..
Is there a stock android rom for the note 8?!
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Lineage 15.1 was released yesterday for the note 8, it is in alpha stage though.
Clean Android not only reduces these devices in terms of function (S Pen, Iris, gestures, etc), but also removes the appeal of Sammy phones. I'm using Pie on my z2 Force, as well as my Pro 3. Whilst both have active development, my N8 is the new king on the hill.
Anyway, it's best to buy another phone like the Moto Z4, Poco F1, Pixel, or Essential for plain Android.
sandeepkumar0153 said:
I have never understood why people do this.
They want some high end phone first. Then suddenly learn about custom roms and are like i want to flash this now.
Better donate the extra money to devs here instead of spending stupidly.
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I think that some people are just plain stupid. They don't relise that most of the features of Stock Android come from other android OEM skins. Just because Stock Android is simple doesn't make it better. Even 3rd party Custom OSes don't support the same features on a Note device.
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Clean Android not only reduces these devices in terms of function (S Pen, Iris, gestures, etc), but also removes the appeal of Sammy phones. I'm using Pie on my z2 Force, as well as my Pro 3. Whilst both have active development, my N8 is the new king on the hill.
Anyway, it's best to buy another phone like the Moto Z4, Poco F1, Pixel, or Essential for plain Android.
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Couldn't agree more on this. I bought my note 8 after i have used a note 8 port rom on my j7 2016.
And honestly i will prefer the note this way and i haven't even rooted yet. I miss viper4android so much but atleast we have Dolby atmos in N8.
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I think that some people are just plain stupid. They don't relise that most of the features of Stock Android come from other android OEM skins. Just because Stock Android is simple doesn't make it better. Even 3rd party Custom OSes don't support the same features on a Note device.
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Exactly, you buy a note device for what i gives not what you can mod it into using a custom rom. Root and xposed is an other thing, but custom rom, that too an AOSP ? Completely dumb people out there.
I think it is about choice, not stupidity, like it's said a couple of times here.
Let people do what they want with their phone, like you do.
The thing is i am a university student and thought that i would use the pen.. turned out i didn't use it nor did i use any of the other features..
Second i am not from the US so pixel is not an option unless i would pay around 100 to 200 extra dollar to get it without a warranty.. this goes to the oneplus..
Other thing is the samsung devices are premium with good camera and great displays which is important for me..
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Other thing is the samsung devices are premium with good camera and great displays which is important for me..
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You do know that once you install a custom OS on the Note. The camera quality goes down. As custom OSes do not have the same camera optimisation software as the Samsung Stock OS.
I was planning to use the pixel camera app
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I was planning to use the pixel camera app
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Of course yo would, that is the point, once you install a stock android,, the camera will no longer be driven by the samsung software, exactly what iceepyon told you, the samsung hardware is specifically constructed to work efficiently with samsung firmwares
Wow
A person asks about a custom vanilla rom, and look at some of the answers. So glad to live in 2019 when XDA posts are turned into youtube comments on taylor swift videos.
People are not "dumb or stupid" if they're looking for customization options on XDA. They're maybe "wrong" in some cases. Just tell them why.
To answer your question:
These days there are too many flagships and midrange phones out there. Also The oems use different hardwares and barely release their source codes and drivers. Plus, stock roms are way more feature rich and fluid than before. For all these reasons the development of vanilla based roms is limited and less reasonable for most phones. Except pixel phones and Android one phones. Even there, all different roms are lineage-based and basically the same, with same features and same bugs! But different visuall traits!
There is a Lineage os for note 8.0 but in very early stages. About other custom roms (stock based), they do a great job in terms of features and removing so called bloatwares, but personally I recommend you staying on stock because unlike few years ago, stock roms get you better performance, features, battery life, etc. I'm currently using pixel 2 and note 8 and trust me, you get bored by plain android!
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Wow
A person asks about a custom vanilla rom, and look at some of the answers. So glad to live in 2019 when XDA posts are turned into youtube comments on taylor swift videos.
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Now I'm going to watch Taylor Swift music videos and read the comments, when I get home.
Hi guys
Is it correct to say non Qualcom based Samsung devices have only 1 or 2 AOSP based ROMs?
Im thinking about getting S20+ but not if only touchUI ROMs are out there.
I only buy the international versions with the exynos chip because it seems all the good AOSP ROMs are on there. I think it has to do with the bootloaders being unlocked.
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Whuddup bruh?
Nekromantik said:
Is it correct to say non Qualcom based Samsung devices have only 1 or 2 AOSP based ROMs?
Im thinking about getting S20+ but not if only touchUI ROMs are out there.
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kinda surprising to think that the rootable S9s dont have a wide variety of ROMs available. Where have you looked for these ROMs? Or, rather, lack thereof
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I only buy the international versions with the exynos chip because it seems all the good AOSP ROMs are on there. I think it has to do with the bootloaders being unlocked.
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very unprofessional of you. Im going to give you a bad Yelp review now!
Hi all, what do you think is 7 Pro 5G worst model due to NO support from custom roms? I can not find even one custom work to support this phone, and to be honest I would like to replace it asap for anything with AOSP support ;/
joloxx9joloxx9 said:
Hi all, what do you think is 7 Pro 5G worst model due to NO support from custom roms? I can not find even one custom work to support this phone, and to be honest I would like to replace it asap for anything with AOSP support ;/
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Why not debloat?
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Why not debloat?
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Got it debloated but how can you compare it to custom Rom and kernel?
Why would you state a phone is the worst model ever strictly based on a lack of custom ROMs? The availability of ROMs has nothing to do with the capability the phone model has. If you want custom ROMs, you could always do the work to make them. If you don't have the knowledge, there are plenty of devs that have provided help to many on this forum, and I'm sure that you could get help if you're willing to spend the time and put in the effort.
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Why would you state a phone is the worst model ever strictly based on a lack of custom ROMs? The availability of ROMs has nothing to do with the capability the phone model has. If you want custom ROMs, you could always do the work to make them. If you don't have the knowledge, there are plenty of devs that have provided help to many on this forum, and I'm sure that you could get help if you're willing to spend the time and put in the effort.
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As oneplus phones are great for custom firmware and I always buy them because of it. In this case 5G model is just a piece of rubbish as there is literally NO support from devs. You say do it on my own? Yeah I would like to have few hours of spare time every day to play with it, but as I do not have that time I have to sell the phone and buy something "normal".
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As oneplus phones are great for custom firmware and I always buy them because of it. In this case 5G model is just a piece of rubbish as there is literally NO support from devs. You say do it on my own? Yeah I would like to have few hours of spare time every day to play with it, but as I do not have that time I have to sell the phone and buy something "normal".
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I understand your concern but if you look in the correct place TG you will find it. ??
What do you mean not compatible? Because bootloader locked? Or is the hardware different? I managed to unlock bootloader, but have not yet tried to flash a ROM. Are you saying a regular ROM will not work for the OP7 Pro just because it's the 5G version? (I don't need 5G anyway if that's the only problem with 5G OP7).
please make redmi note 9 merlin best official custom rom example corvus os, oxygen,pixel experience
BEST ROM DOESN'T EXIST
alonsoj636 said:
BEST ROM DOESN'T EXIST
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But make for it please.....
alonsoj636 said:
BEST ROM DOESN'T EXIST
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Best rom doesn't exist. [2]
The best rom is the one you decide to be the best.
Personally, I really prefer original and untouched stock rom and this is the best rom for me.
VD171 said:
Best rom doesn't exist. [2]
The best rom is the one you decide to be the best.
Personally, I really prefer original and untouched stock rom and this is the best rom for me.
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Same for me , Stock MIUI is the best
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But make for it please.....
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i bought the Redmi Note 10 ... i can't , sorry.
alonsoj636 said:
Same for me , Stock MIUI is the best
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But which custom rom option would be the most table with all the phones features working?
I mean I was reading about the pixel experience based on android 10 and got all exicted reading about the it and than boom some one mentioned that you cannot use your dual sim cards. Duh. It's a phone I bought it primarily for dual sim and dedicated sdcard. If that is not working why bother at all? Seemed to me like a rather important detail.
I prefer to stay stock rom if posssible since that should have all the sensors and hardware working. But the this is my first Mi and I find the MIUI bit of a challange (and ugly) . I cannot even use the mi remote if I refuse to login to my mi account. So no mi remote. And it feels a bit slower than my umidigo A5 pro from 2019 that has a MT6763 core 4 gb ram and 32gb running vanilla android 9 os.
That older phone just feels way faster than this one with better specs. I suspect it's because of miui. But it could be android 10 is just slower.
Anyway as time passes by I seem to beable to fix all the important issues. The most recent one was miui killing everything without any solution. So all my little gadgets that make miui usable for me stopped working with in hours.
I hope thats fixed too.
But if not it would be nice to know if there is a good stable as vanilla as possible rom out there that actually works or which one gets closest to this utopia?
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But which custom rom option would be the most table with all the phones features working?
I mean I was reading about the pixel experience based on android 10 and got all exicted reading about the it and than boom some one mentioned that you cannot use your dual sim cards. Duh. It's a phone I bought it primarily for dual sim and dedicated sdcard. If that is not working why bother at all? Seemed to me like a rather important detail.
I prefer to stay stock rom if posssible since that should have all the sensors and hardware working. But the this is my first Mi and I find the MIUI bit of a challange (and ugly) . I cannot even use the mi remote if I refuse to login to my mi account. So no mi remote. And it feels a bit slower than my umidigo A5 pro from 2019 that has a MT6763 core 4 gb ram and 32gb running vanilla android 9 os.
That older phone just feels way faster than this one with better specs. I suspect it's because of miui. But it could be android 10 is just slower.
Anyway as time passes by I seem to beable to fix all the important issues. The most recent one was miui killing everything without any solution. So all my little gadgets that make miui usable for me stopped working with in hours.
I hope thats fixed too.
But if not it would be nice to know if there is a good stable as vanilla as possible rom out there that actually works or which one gets closest to this utopia?
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I use a ROM pixel and so far I have not seen any problems on redmi note 9. It sees the SIM cards, you can hardly worry about anything
What skills or things do I need other than the phone in question to be able to develope a custom-rom for this phone? I would be interested to learn more about this.
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What skills or things do I need other than the phone in question to be able to develope a custom-rom for this phone? I would be interested to learn more about this.
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Lots of knowledge and time and Linux.
Xiaomi 12 pro has A/B partitions which does not facilitate the task
Sample guide.
https://www.androidauthority.com/build-custom-android-rom-720453/
Thanks @NOSS8
I'm okay with spending time on projects that i would use or share with others and linux is not a new thing to me neither.
The other questions is does this phone have all neccesary components etc avaible to develop a rom for it as well?
I have seen and used xiaomi.eu but it is kinda the same as oem rom but extra goodies from china rom and all agressive battery saving options still remain killing all apps.
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Thanks @NOSS8
I'm okay with spending time on projects that i would use or share with others and linux is not a new thing to me neither.
The other questions is does this phone have all neccesary components etc avaible to develop a rom for it as well?
I have seen and used xiaomi.eu but it is kinda the same as oem rom but extra goodies from china rom and all agressive battery saving options still remain killing all apps.
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Source code here.
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/zeus-s-oss
"all agressive battery saving options still remain killing all apps'
There are settings for that.
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There are settings for that.
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I have still missed notifications, apps are getting killed etc when following https://dontkillmyapp.com/xiaomi
But thanks for helping
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I have still missed notifications, apps are getting killed etc when following https://dontkillmyapp.com/xiaomi
But thanks for helping
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For important notifications, for example google messages:
Battery saver: no restrictions
Automatic start: yes
Permissions: all.
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Source code here.
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/zeus-s-oss
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I assume this is almost everything i need?
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I assume this is almost everything i need?
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Not sure that's enough.
I'm seeing with a developer for an AOSP rom, I'll let you know.
So,the answer:
Hi, have checked and no trees or kernel yet for this device.
Would be able to make but atm not much time. Once trees and kernel would be available though building like crDroid would be no problem.
Following this answer I provided with 2 Github links.
https://github.com/MiCode/vendor_qcom_opensource_wlan/tree/zeus-s-oss
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/zeus-s-oss
Atm it will be a no. Not sure how it will go in time.
Ofc thx for the offer and maybe we'll speak each other soon.
I contacted 5 others developers.
1/Too busy.
2/Too busy.
3/Too busy.
4/Waiting for a response
5/Waiting for a response
Thanks for informing!
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Thanks for informing!
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What happened to crowdfunding activity
sinz0000 said:
What happened to crowdfunding activity
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Abandoned project.
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Abandoned project.
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Reason?
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Reason?
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No news from the developer who had accepted.
Coming from Oneplus phones going all the way back to the 2, I knew jumping to this phone it wasn't going to be the same development experience. But I can tell you from years of watching forums and development that this phone is DOA for development. If anything was going to happen it would have happened long before now like in the spring.
We will be dependent upon official Xiaomi releases supplemented by the Xiaomi.EU customization for as long as we own this phone. There will never be a custom rom. Accept that or get a Pixel 7 before the sale is over.
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Coming from Oneplus phones going all the way back to the 2, I knew jumping to this phone it wasn't going to be the same development experience. But I can tell you from years of watching forums and development that this phone is DOA for development. If anything was going to happen it would have happened long before now like in the spring.
We will be dependent upon official Xiaomi releases supplemented by the Xiaomi.EU customization for as long as we own this phone. There will never be a custom rom. Accept that or get a Pixel 7 before the sale is over.
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The biggest problem with this phone is the autonomy even with a Xiaomi Eu rom, maybe with an AOSP it would have been better.
Performance and autonomy, difficult to reconcile the two despite what Qualcomm says and given the comparisons with other Socs.
More performance and better battery life of course, but the reality is different, all of this is just commercial, note that almost all brands that will use the Gen 2 switch to larger batteries, while it is said that it will consume less than the Gen 1, amazing isn't it?
The optimization also seems to have been abandoned by Xiaomi too busy selling its multitude of phones.
As far as development is concerned, the phone is expensive and despite the source code being released 1 month after its release, it is incomplete.
Currently the flagships all have the same problem, autonomy.
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The biggest problem with this phone is the autonomy even with a Xiaomi Eu rom, maybe with an AOSP it would have been better.
Performance and autonomy, difficult to reconcile the two despite what Qualcomm says and given the comparisons with other Socs.
More performance and better battery life of course, but the reality is different, all of this is just commercial, note that almost all brands that will use the Gen 2 switch to larger batteries, while it is said that it will consume less than the Gen 1, amazing isn't it?
The optimization also seems to have been abandoned by Xiaomi too busy selling its multitude of phones.
As far as development is concerned, the phone is expensive and despite the source code being released 1 month after its release, it is incomplete.
Currently the flagships all have the same problem, autonomy.
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Coming from Oneplus phones going all the way back to the 2, I knew jumping to this phone it wasn't going to be the same development experience. But I can tell you from years of watching forums and development that this phone is DOA for development. If anything was going to happen it would have happened long before now like in the spring.
We will be dependent upon official Xiaomi releases supplemented by the Xiaomi.EU customization for as long as we own this phone. There will never be a custom rom. Accept that or get a Pixel 7 before the sale is over.
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Thanks for the Frank answer, let me stop checking XDA atleast.
MIUI should atleast offer option to switch launchers.
Never returning to xiaomi