Upgrade from Android 1.0 to 2.3.7 - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello. I recently stupidly flashed RC29 on my phone. That's how I got out of there.
How to:
1. You realized that you are on RC29. Do not worry. Let's start the escape.
2. Start phone without sim card. Type on the keyboard <ENTER button>setprop persist.service.adb.enable 1<ENTER button>. Reboot with a SIM card (any, not even a valid one)
3. Connect your phone to PC, download ADB and type command: adb shell am start -a android.intent.action.MAIN -n com.android.launcher/.Launcher
4. Download and install telnet: adb install telnet.apk
4.1 Once at the Home screen, open the keyboard and press the Enter key twice.
4.2 Type telnetd & press Enter. The Contacts screen will come up, just ignore it. There will be no indication that you did it right.
4.3 Open Android Telnet Client; type localhost in the large text box and 23 in the smaller text box on the right.
5. Download the recovery to a memory card and type the command in telnet:
flash_image recovery /sdcard/<your recovery>.img
Just type reboot recovery! Now you have a complete Recovery!
6. WARNING! Install 2.22.19.26I and reboot into recovery 2-3 times. Check the radio version in HBOOT. If version 2.22.19.26I install the HBOOT package. Reboot 2-3 times.
7. It's all. Install roms.
Pay attention! Clockworkmod is not recommended by Cyanogen developers. Use AmonRa. (cwm recovery left in the post in case of emergency)
The story of how I installed CyanogenMod 7:
1. Download CyanogenMod 7 build (DM me if rom not downloading)
2. Install HBOOT 1.33.0013d
3. Install ROM. Download the kernel (ezgb_2636_v1.5.1_S.zip). Install kernel.
4. Just restart and wait. Now you have working system!
Notes:
Restart in recovery - HOME + POWER
Restart in HBOOT - PHOTO + POWER
Reset - CALL + MENU + POWER
Safe mode - hold MENU while booting
# sites (not all)
HTC Dream: Rooting - CyanogenMod Wiki
web.archive.org
Google Code Archive - Long-term storage for Google Code Project Hosting.
code.google.com

Please buy the HTC Sensation
I alone am bored in the forum Sensation
It can be found for 500 rubles

Ulumia said:
Please buy the HTC Sensation
I alone am bored in the forum Sensation
It can be found for 500 rubles
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sorry, even though it costs 500rub, I spent everything on MiPad 2. I don’t have money for it. Sorry((
PS. and notice. I am now trying to bypass android and make my firmware on android 1.0 for dream.

I quote the article on rooting G1 from Cyanogen Wiki "ClockworkMod is not recommended for Dream due to memory shortage and file corruption."
That's why I think it's better to use Amon_RA's
On my Desire Amon_RA 2.0.1 seems better than CWM 2.5.0.7
Below you can find CyanogenMod themed version of Recovery
By the way the new Telnet version is already on Mod edit: 4pda link removed

@russanandres Thanks a lot for the tutorial, you are a real lifesaver! Exactly what I needed to get a custom rom on my G1.
Although now I'm wondering, is android 2.3 perhaps too much for this phone? I was shocked to see that the actual usable ram out of the 192mb is just 96 and out of them ~30mb free. The device itself seems to be somewhat sluggish on 2.3, the default browser can't even load google without crashing. Although I noticed it's kinda inconsistent, sometimes it speeds up a bit and gets pretty close to 1.6 speed. On the stock 1.6 the phone was fairly snappy for what it could do, although it had terrible idle battery drain. The battery on 2.3 seems better from my first impressions.
For daily driver usage in 2022 what would make most sense, if you have experience with more roms on this device? 2.3 just really seems pointless to me, as the device doesn't have enough power to run properly apps that require android 2.3 as minimum, pretty much all apps that I have installed run on 1.5/1.6+. For example, I have my music library in .opus format, tried foobar2000 and gonemad music player(they supposedly support opus) versions that are 2.3+ and they both straight up crashed on startup, perhaps due to the low ram/lack of instructions.
The speed itself doesn't annoy me as much as the soft reboots that happen from time to time when the phone gets too ''tired'', especially after reboot, for me in about 50% of the time the phone just soft reboots again like a half minute after the first reboot.
Edit: The reboots after the bootup happen if I just don't let it idle for 2 minutes or so white it's reading my sdcard, which has quite a lot of files. I doubt it's from the actual speed of the sdcard as it's a 16gb sandisk ultra, should be sufficient for this phone.
A slight overclock option seems to be present in the performance settings but I won't dare to use it, two days ago I had to do a somewhat professional solder reflow+SoC heat revive on 400C for 30 seconds with a bga soldering station and some flux, that brought it back to life, previously it would work only for about an hour after I heated it with a hairdryer. My point is that the processors in these devices haven't aged too well, in terms of wearing out mine is pretty much done for and who knows when it's gonna die again. I also managed to put a copper heat plate over the soc(with thermal paste) to absorb some of the heat in addition to the metal plating and hopefully to increase the remaining lifespan of the silicon.
Back on the topic, maybe android 2.1/2.2 would be more suitable and still with good features(mostly looking at the quick settings), although I have no idea honestly, I haven't played around with android versions this old to know which ones are lighter and heavier. 2.3 definitely seems heavier than 1.6, that is for sure.
Availability in terms of links is another issue but with research and some use of the web archive I suppose we would be able to find at least one rom per android version.

MaRtYy01 said:
@russanandres Thanks a lot for the tutorial, you are a real lifesaver! Exactly what I needed to get a custom rom on my G1.
Although now I'm wondering, is android 2.3 perhaps too much for this phone? I was shocked to see that the actual usable ram out of the 192mb is just 96 and out of them ~30mb free. The device itself seems to be somewhat sluggish on 2.3, the default browser can't even load google without crashing. Although I noticed it's kinda inconsistent, sometimes it speeds up a bit and gets pretty close to 1.6 speed. On the stock 1.6 the phone was fairly snappy for what it could do, although it had terrible idle battery drain. The battery on 2.3 seems better from my first impressions.
For daily driver usage in 2022 what would make most sense, if you have experience with more roms on this device? 2.3 just really seems pointless to me, as the device doesn't have enough power to run properly apps that require android 2.3 as minimum, pretty much all apps that I have installed run on 1.5/1.6+. For example, I have my music library in .opus format, tried foobar2000 and gonemad music player(they supposedly support opus) versions that are 2.3+ and they both straight up crashed on startup, perhaps due to the low ram/lack of instructions.
The speed itself doesn't annoy me as much as the soft reboots that happen from time to time when the phone gets too ''tired'', especially after reboot, for me in about 50% of the time the phone just soft reboots again like a half minute after the first reboot.
Edit: The reboots after the bootup happen if I just don't let it idle for 2 minutes or so white it's reading my sdcard, which has quite a lot of files. I doubt it's from the actual speed of the sdcard as it's a 16gb sandisk ultra, should be sufficient for this phone.
A slight overclock option seems to be present in the performance settings but I won't dare to use it, two days ago I had to do a somewhat professional solder reflow+SoC heat revive on 400C for 30 seconds with a bga soldering station and some flux, that brought it back to life, previously it would work only for about an hour after I heated it with a hairdryer. My point is that the processors in these devices haven't aged too well, in terms of wearing out mine is pretty much done for and who knows when it's gonna die again. I also managed to put a copper heat plate over the soc(with thermal paste) to absorb some of the heat in addition to the metal plating and hopefully to increase the remaining lifespan of the silicon.
Back on the topic, maybe android 2.1/2.2 would be more suitable and still with good features(mostly looking at the quick settings), although I have no idea honestly, I haven't played around with android versions this old to know which ones are lighter and heavier. 2.3 definitely seems heavier than 1.6, that is for sure.
Availability in terms of links is another issue but with research and some use of the web archive I suppose we would be able to find at least one rom per android version.
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I think a swap of 256 MB or more will save your G1 on 2.3.7
So if 2.3.7 was slow, then any Android 2.x.x will be slow
Within 2.x.x the system showed more and more performance with each version

Ulumia said:
I think a swap of 256 MB or more will save your G1 on 2.3.7
So if 2.3.7 was slow, then any Android 2.x.x will be slow
Within 2.x.x the system showed more and more performance with each version
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That's a great idea. I have to look into it, as far as I know I have to make a partition for the swap on the sdcard then enable it on boot with some sort of a script. Is that correct?
Guess that's what I'm gonna be doing today after work, apart from transcoding my music library to mp3 unless the music players decide to work with the swap enabled.
Another thing I wanted to mention, is it normal to have such high idle drain on this phone? Even on cm7 in airplane mode it seems to drain ~4-5% per hour or so. Perhaps my battery calibration is off, I charged it overnight and wiped the battery stats hoping to resolve this issue but it seems to persist. I got a nearly brand new vhbw aftermarket battery which should be about 900-950mah capacity from my measurements, so it's not due to an aging battery.
In comparision I also have a galaxy s1 on cm7.2 with a 12 year old battery on ~70% capacity and that phone lasts like 10 days idle with a sim card.

MaRtYy01 said:
That's a great idea. I have to look into it, as far as I know I have to make a partition for the swap on the sdcard then enable it on boot with some sort of a script. Is that correct?
Guess that's what I'm gonna be doing today after work, apart from transcoding my music library to mp3 unless the music players decide to work with the swap enabled.
Another thing I wanted to mention, is it normal to have such high idle drain on this phone? Even on cm7 in airplane mode it seems to drain ~4-5% per hour or so. Perhaps my battery calibration is off, I charged it overnight and wiped the battery stats hoping to resolve this issue but it seems to persist. I got a nearly brand new vhbw aftermarket battery which should be about 900-950mah capacity from my measurements, so it's not due to an aging battery.
In comparision I also have a galaxy s1 on cm7.2 with a 12 year old battery on ~70% capacity and that phone lasts like 10 days idle with a sim card.
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Swap partition can be done directly in CWM
You need to find Partion SDcard!!! ALL DATA ON THE SD WILL BE REMOVED!!!
For swap you can use this script
Code:
busybox mkswap /dev/block/mmcblk0p3
busybox swapon /dev/block/mmcblk0p3
echo 100 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
And about the battery: on all the HTC smartphones that I had (Sensation XE, Desire A8181, Wildfire S) it has been bad since
So try to replace it.

Ulumia said:
Swap partition can be done directly in CWM
You need to find Partion SDcard!!! ALL DATA ON THE SD WILL BE REMOVED!!!
For swap you can use this script
Code:
busybox mkswap /dev/block/mmcblk0p3
busybox swapon /dev/block/mmcblk0p3
echo 100 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
And about the battery: on all the HTC smartphones that I had (Sensation XE, Desire A8181, Wildfire S) it has been bad since
So try to replace it.
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I see, thanks for the explanation.
I'll hold off from getting a new battery for now, hoping that this battery will get better calibrated. I'm also not certain that the problem is in the battery, if I use the device non-stop from full charge it seems to hold on for about 1h45mins SoT before going flat, which for a device with a tiny battert and a 65nm soc doesn't seem unusual.
But I was also wondering about your experience with the battery, do you also get this high idle drain or is it just my unit?
Lastly, I was wondering if multitouch can be enabled somehow. From my quick search it appears that the G1 screen supports it but its purposely disabled, although some people show it off being enabled.

MaRtYy01 said:
I see, thanks for the explanation.
I'll hold off from getting a new battery for now, hoping that this battery will get better calibrated. I'm also not certain that the problem is in the battery, if I use the device non-stop from full charge it seems to hold on for about 1h45mins SoT before going flat, which for a device with a tiny battert and a 65nm soc doesn't seem unusual.
But I was also wondering about your experience with the battery, do you also get this high idle drain or is it just my unit?
Lastly, I was wondering if multitouch can be enabled somehow. From my quick search it appears that the G1 screen supports it but its purposely disabled, although some people show it off being enabled.
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The G1 supports multi-touch
It's very strange why it's not in CM7
Xperia X8 has multitouch on the custom ROM but no multitouch on the stock ROM

I found a better opmitized gingerbread rom, that still has a working link.
The system runs much smoother than on cm7.
I have to add, something missed in the tutorial is updating the radio to an even newer version that expands the available ram by 15mb. That is like 50%, considering that the phone has 30mb ram free otherwise.
Link for the radio- here
I directly updated to 2.22.28.25_S via recovery and faced no issues. It is recommended to use superwipe first, with a custom configuration file in the root of the sdcard, that will do a full wipe except for the sdcard. (Source) (Source 2)
In the custom config set:
Wipe_Sd_Secure=no
Wipe_Sd_Ext=no
I received a new sdcard that I will use for the phone, a 64gb Patriot EP series that I got for 5€, these are very fast and dirt cheap. Probably faster than the phone's sdcard reader can candle but that is fine. Point is, I ran the partition sdcard option in the recovery, I noticed it doesn't only ask for swap but it also asks for ext2 partition, what capacity should I select for that? Can't find much info for the ext2 parititions other than they are used for moving apps to the sdcard, although I have no clue how to enable that ability in the android os.
As for my battery issues, I'm certain that the culpit isn't software related but rather a failure of the Qualcomm PM7540 power management ic. The easiest way to test that, which I did, turn off the phone and wait, if the chip is fautly it will drain the battery while it is off, which it does for me(there is nearly no difference in discharge speed between the phone being on and off). I actually remember a year ago when the phone was still just sitting as a decoration on my shelf and just turned on with the hairdryer from time to time, that I had to pull out the battery or it would drain it completely while off, so the power ic failure isn't related to the processor failure at all. I don't know what is my luck, to have 2 dying important chips on one board
Perhaps I will try to remedy it the same way I did with the processor, clean it, place some flux and heat it for 30 secs at 400C. Or maybe a bit lower temperature this time. Technically both chips can be replaced and finding a donor isn't hard(especially for the power management ic, it appears that HTC HD2, Touch HD, Nexus One, Touch Pro, Diamond 2, Desire, SE Xperia X10, X10 Mini, BlackBerry Storm are only part of the devices that use this same power ic. But replacing such chips is extremely difficult and beyond my current abilities, giving it to a professional is not worth it either, the entire phone costs 40-50€(as collector's value) so with the cost of such repair I can instead purchase another G1.

Thank, it work fine

MaRtYy01 said:
I found a better opmitized gingerbread rom, that still has a working link.
The system runs much smoother than on cm7.
I have to add, something missed in the tutorial is updating the radio to an even newer version that expands the available ram by 15mb. That is like 50%, considering that the phone has 30mb ram free otherwise.
Link for the radio- here
I directly updated to 2.22.28.25_S via recovery and faced no issues. It is recommended to use superwipe first, with a custom configuration file in the root of the sdcard, that will do a full wipe except for the sdcard. (Source) (Source 2)
In the custom config set:
Wipe_Sd_Secure=no
Wipe_Sd_Ext=no
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To flash That radio do i need to install the SPL "1.33.0013d"?
or i can keep using Danger SPL (1.33.2005)?

@Ulumia you know anything about this? is the "RAM Hack" SPL required?

jonnyprogamer said:
To flash That radio do i need to install the SPL "1.33.0013d"?
or i can keep using Danger SPL (1.33.2005)?
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I don't know anything about Dream because I don't have this device.
I think if you need that file, you know what to do to install it.

jonnyprogamer said:
To flash That radio do i need to install the SPL "1.33.0013d"?
or i can keep using Danger SPL (1.33.2005)?
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Hey sorry for my late response, I just fired up my G1 which to my surprise(or not) failed to cold boot yet again so I had to give it the hair dryer treatment. Guess the hot air station fix worn out at some point after I stopped using the phone 2 weeks after applying it.
I have 1.33.0013d on mine, which appears to be the recommended version. looking at the description of the rom. I would avoid using another one if possible. Unfortunately I don't remember anything specific, so I can't give you more feedback.

MaRtYy01 said:
Hey sorry for my late response, I just fired up my G1 which to my surprise(or not) failed to cold boot yet again so I had to give it the hair dryer treatment. Guess the hot air station fix worn out at some point after I stopped using the phone 2 weeks after applying it.
I have 1.33.0013d on mine, which appears to be the recommended version. looking at the description of the rom. I would avoid using another one if possible. Unfortunately I don't remember anything specific, so I can't give you more feedback.
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As i found out you need that SPL to get the extra 15MB of Ram, but be aware that SPL is pretty dangerous, because it doesn't support Fastboot flash (and fastboot boot doesn't work, gets stuck when i try to boot recovery), so if you accidentally brick your phone and do not have a custom recovery it's RIP.

Related

new rom

Have any of you seen this thread by Cornflipper at PPC geeks? :
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=109527
I just took the plunge and flashed, I hope this is legit, well if not.... that is what insurance is for right? lol
So, I flashed it and it seems to be a little more stable, it has a new sys and new Radio..... I hope it turns out to better than stock, it will make waiting for the HSPL a little eaiser.
Flashed the new rom last night basically for the new radio ( 2.25 ). I ran it for a couple of hours before I put Sense 2.5 2011 back on it. The radio is better where I live ( I got an extra bar at home ) and the calls seemed a little clearer with more volume. Data and sms seem smoother and the rom seems a little faster and smoother. I do like it better .
After having this rom on for a day or so , the the thing that really sticks out is that there is virtually no memory leak , I can't believe it ! My free memory has been at 52 - 56% all day . Was worth the flash.
I jumped on this and I have to say, I'm really happy that I did. The device is notably more 'snappier' than it was. I never really had much of a memory leak problem, but I'm seeing slightly less memory usage than I typically do.
No problems at all updating, either. The installer that was posted on the first post of that thread worked out of the box for me, painless and easy. Just a re-sync to get my contacts back and some reconfiguration was all that was required. Cornflipper is my hero
One thing I noted that I like, and maybe it was there in the stock ROM and I just missed it during setup, was the ability to set the multimedia button to launch the TouchFlo Music tab. While the music app still seems pretty laggy/slow with a 10GB library on a storage card, being able to use that button makes me happy. If only I knew how to set the volume granularity under TouchFlo. (WMP still makes a better MP3 player mode for now IMO)
Not sure about battery usage, I went down to 90% pretty fast, but I've been downloading/reinstalling a bunch of things. Radio does seem to stay 3G instead of 1X better than it did as well.
I recommend. Nothing appears to have gotten worse.
edit: It also seems that the data connection will turn itself on by default now after soft-resetting the device, which is new for me. It was always OFF for me unless I turned it on manually. Data conn still dies when powering the phone off, though. I've had issues with data crapping out randomly, maybe that will be fixed too, but haven't had the ROM long enough to know one way or the other.
edit 2: I thought I took a major hit in battery life today, without even using the phone for anything it was down to 50% after being unplugged for 9 hours. However, it also charged back to 100% in about 15 minutes, so it looks like flashing the ROM messes up the battery gauge again. Using my original trick of charging, unplugging, charging, unplugging ... until it just won't charge anymore. Worked when the phone was new
I highly recommend it!
I have to agree with the concensus over at PPCGeeks . . . this rom ROCKS!
One of the bigest things for me is that A2DP starts automatically now. When I get into my car and start one of my Podcasts, it imediately plays through the car stereo; I don't have to go ino the BT settings and start it!
The memory leaks seem to have been fixed for the most part - it starts at 52% after a restart and only creeps up a bit from there. I also see far moe 3G coverage than with the old ROM.
I can't say that I have noticed any battery improvement though . . . but it is certainly no worse!
If you haven't updated yet . . . what are you waiting for?
BRosenow said:
One of the bigest things for me is that A2DP starts automatically now. When I get into my car and start one of my Podcasts, it imediately plays through the car stereo; I don't have to go ino the BT settings and start it!
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BRosenow... did you do anything to get it to start automatically? I'm not that lucky. Also, is your BT sound of poorer quality? Mine sounds kind of crappy and I think it's the phone b/c my old phone sounds pretty good. Any thoughts? Thanks!
Official ROM available on PCD Phones
The official ROM is available on PCD Phones website. I'm going to assume it's the same.
http://www.pcdphones.com/view_phone_details.aspx?mcode=XV6975&bID=136&sAct=0
coolpoete said:
The official ROM is available on PCD Phones website. I'm going to assume it's the same.
http://www.pcdphones.com/view_phone_details.aspx?mcode=XV6975&bID=136&sAct=0
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Yes, it looks like it is the same. the name & versioning are identical.
just flashed this and its alot faster and i have full bars now where i live!!! thanks
laserbeme said:
BRosenow... did you do anything to get it to start automatically? I'm not that lucky. Also, is your BT sound of poorer quality? Mine sounds kind of crappy and I think it's the phone b/c my old phone sounds pretty good. Any thoughts? Thanks!
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No, I didn't do anything special . . . in fact I noticed it by accident. Since this was a problem with the previous ROM I stopped using it, but one day I just started playing a PodCast when I got into my car and it played through the radio. I was pleasantly surprised!
I can't say that I have noticed that the sound quality is lower (I mostly listen to spoken-word Podcasts, so quality is not a big issue), but I do notice a half-second pause from time to time. It's a bit annoying, but not a big deal considering what I'm listening to - if I was listening to music I imagine it would be VERY annoying!
Installed - but WORSE memory mgmt?
rachbu said:
Yes, it looks like it is the same. the name & versioning are identical.
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So I upgraded to the latest and greatest and have seen worse behavior in memory management. I used to be able to go a number of days without rebooting, now memory shoots from 58% upon boot to 70% in a few minutes. Exact same applications installed, nothing new but the ROM.
I've also had strange issues where the phone doesn't always ring -- screen lights up, but no ringtone.
Anyone else see new issues since upgrading?
More oddities with the new ROM
FYI: I also manually put my phone into Vibrate mode...it somehow went back into Automatic mode without my knowledge / intervention (which also disrupted a meeting I was in when my alarm went off). Not sure if this is because I was using ActiveSync at the time...but this new ROM is IMHO not nearly as good as the stock one.
ROM is official via Verizon Support Page
Looks like Verizon has made this official. If you go to the support page on Verizon.com and click on software updates, it takes you to:
http://www.pcdphones.com/phone_downloads.aspx?bid=136&cid=1&mid=364&carrier=Verizon Wireless
I took the plunge two days ago and upgaded to this new ROM. Wow, what an improvement! Maybe it's my imagination, but the device seems to run faster, the touch screen seems more accuate, expecially when typing and cell reception is better.
honestly...
and no disrespect to those who DID notice an improvement, but after flashing to this updated ROM and using my device as normal, i don't see any difference at all.
Sure, they fixed that issue when you first restore your sms database and it takes FOREVER to re-thread your messages...but now, i just see that they "fixed" it by stopping my restored messages from re-threading at all. so much for that..
In need of help
Collegues, can some one provide me with a direct link to download a (the best) custom ROM? I’m having a hard time trying to find one. I’ve read about a couple of’m but there’s not a direct link you can click on to download it. HELP PLZ!!!!!
If you want I cook new ROM for this Device
02Luis02 said:
Collegues, can some one provide me with a direct link to download a (the best) custom ROM? I’m having a hard time trying to find one. I’ve read about a couple of’m but there’s not a direct link you can click on to download it. HELP PLZ!!!!!
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For me, the Energy ROM is the best balance of performance and functionality. He provides several options and updates the ROMs frequently as new .cabs become available. The download links are in one of the first few posts in this thread:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=113971

NAND vs Heret, & You

I've got a few questions about installing to NAND vs running it from the SDcard with heret, I'll add the answers under the questions once they have been answered
-What's the difference in battery life?
-Does windows mobile unload completely?
-What's the performance difference
-Is there a difference in running memory size'
-Is it possible to switch the install to NAND from SD and viceversa without user data loss
mrono said:
I've got a few questions about installing to NAND vs running it from the SDcard with heret, I'll add the answers under the questions once they have been answered
1What's the difference in battery life?
2Does windows mobile unload completely?
3What's the performance difference
4Is there a difference in running memory size'
5Is it possible to switch the install to NAND from SD and viceversa without user data loss
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1. It's about the same
2. Yes it's completely gone from your phone.
3. It's faster from nand
4. no
5. yes
I get much better battery life on nand. better than wm. maybe its just me.
cp0020 said:
I get much better battery life on nand. better than wm. maybe its just me.
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Same here, except when i use a 2.1 build, they drain my battery like crazy. But MYN's donut gives me way better battery life than any wm rom.
that's cause they still haven't quite perfected 2.1 yet. but myns build is near perfect! and the speed on nand is amazing
cp0020 said:
that's cause they still haven't quite perfected 2.1 yet. but myns build is near perfect! and the speed on nand is amazing
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Yeah thats what i thought.. And yes the speed is outstanding!
cp0020 said:
I get much better battery life on nand. better than wm. maybe its just me.
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more like definite battery improvement!
my phone actually lasts a whole day!
WITH heavy phone usage
but now that opera mini 5 is on the market.
the battery should last even longer now
no more having to load a whole page
just images of the sites! haha
The only thing that I would disagree with previous posters is on the speed issue. To me this is all dependent on the quality of your SD Card and your setup.
With a class 6 SD card (even without partitions) I saw little difference in speed when I flashed to the NAND, OTOH I'm sure people with slower cards saw vast improvements.
Getting ready to go to NAND...
I've been running from my SD card for several months and now getting ready to take the plunge by installing Android to NAND.
Questions...Once you install to NAND:
1) do all Apps get installed to NAND or can some get installed to SD?
2) I assume that you can still reference music and other files on the SD card?
3) Are there any drawbacks to going to NAND? Wiping windows from ROM is not a concern.
Looking forward to NAND.
Thank you for your advice!
i made the switch from sd to nand last week, and boy, what a difference!
battery life:
i used to get about ~12 hours with sd, with no data, no browsing, and limited texting
with nand, i have synchronization turned on for both gmail and work email, do tons of browsing, games, and making calls, and still have ~70% after 12 hours
stability:
my phone used to freeze up about once a day (sometimes up to 3 times) with sd install, since nand install, i haven't had one freeze up
definately worth the switch to nand!
joshmxpx said:
i made the switch from sd to nand last week, and boy, what a difference!
battery life: ...stability:
...definately worth the switch to nand!
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Great! Getting ready to unlock my phone.
there should not be a significant battery difference nand vs haret IF you are using the same kernel. I suspect that people who note the difference changed from an older zimage kernel to a newer NAND kernel (.nbh), as there were significant battery improvements in the last 3 or so kernel updates. i agree with other posters that you probably won't see a significant difference in speed if you are running a fast sd card, maybe a small one.
i personally use nand, cause I have no use for win mo anymore.
I have to disagree with the others. I used the same date nbh as zimage and after flashing I get about 6 more hours of battery. and I have a good sdcard. on startup it even says [new high speed sdcard installed] my old 512mb card never said that. so I do have a really good sdcard and again, after flashing, its much!! faster!!!
has anyone had issues with loosing connection to their service provider with a flash? I'm on verizon and doing a hard reset on the phone has made me loose my information and have to call to get it reset up before. If that happens we have to flash back to winmo to fix it?
drock3260 said:
has anyone had issues with loosing connection to their service provider with a flash? I'm on verizon and doing a hard reset on the phone has made me loose my information and have to call to get it reset up before. If that happens we have to flash back to winmo to fix it?
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I'm on sprint I have that problem only if i flash to stock winmo then out to another rom without loading winmo, letting customizations run, then making a data connection, if i do that then flash then i have no problems. But i can flash from rom to rom with no provider data loss
Sorry to revive an ancient topic . I'm really thinking about making the switch from haret to NAND but I would really like to keep my data. The second post in this said that you could keep your data. Is that true? If so I'm flashing it tonight!
JM-PDA said:
I've been running from my SD card for several months and now getting ready to take the plunge by installing Android to NAND.
Questions...Once you install to NAND:
1) do all Apps get installed to NAND or can some get installed to SD?
2) I assume that you can still reference music and other files on the SD card?
3) Are there any drawbacks to going to NAND? Wiping windows from ROM is not a concern.
Looking forward to NAND.
Thank you for your advice!
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1. All apps do get installed to the NAND, and you can move some apps to sd in the applications settings
2. Yes, you can, altough i haven't had much luck with video (maybe because my sd is class 2? it plays for 1 second and then freezes, but sound still goes, and when i try to push something, it force closes)
3. NO DRAWBACKS WHATSOEVER please go with froyo

Nexus One charging at 106F ~Froyo

my nexus one is charging on a regular basis around 106-7 F. I know there is another thread about this issue but the question was not resolved. So does anyone have experience with this issue. Is it a defect or dangerous? I have OSmonitor installed, this si where I am reading my temps. I also notice the CPU usage is pegged around 98-99%..is this normal?
I heard using setCPU with a charging profile can solve this problem if you have root?
No, it is not normal for the cpu to be maxed out while charging. Are you using the car dock or a wall charger?
nexous one
mine does the same thing all the time its not going to damage your phone at all
my phone has got about 120 F on car doc
my phone is perfect just set your set cpu for fail safe and your all good
You probably could use SetCPU to solve this problem, but the fact that your CPU usage is so high in the first place means there is something going wrong - my guess would be a rogue app.
Try downloading a task killer from the Market. Kill each app running one at a time then check your CPU usage. You'll soon find the culprit.
sn95chico said:
my phone has got about 120 F on car doc
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Yeah I'm starting to see the problem with the phone having a metal casing. Not good when it's summer and you have to place it under direct sunlight for extended amounts of time, while using navigation AND charging
That thing can get burning hot alright.
Are you using froyo 2.2?
I have had the same problem; I also have random periods of high cpu use when not charging as well. This issue is not caused by problem apps either. I must reboot to fix the issue, sometimes I must reboot several times until the cpu load is back to normal.
I am not sure it is a bug or a hardware fault. Maybe a quick call to HTC and/or google is in order.
I will also try to reapply the 2.2 update.
Marine6680 said:
I am not sure it is a bug or a hardware fault. Maybe a quick call to HTC and/or google is in order.
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Been there, done that. I opened a thread asking other users about the problem, and even mailed HTC's support. In the end I decided to try flashing the stock 2.1 rom again to see if the problem persisted, and it didn't.
I'm pretty sure it's not a hardware problem, but you might want to install eclair too and see if it works for you.
frandavid100 said:
Been there, done that. I opened a thread asking other users about the problem, and even mailed HTC's support. In the end I decided to try flashing the stock 2.1 rom again to see if the problem persisted, and it didn't.
I'm pretty sure it's not a hardware problem, but you might want to install eclair too and see if it works for you.
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I bet your heat issues are related to cpu loads or staying at high frequencies like mine. Sometimes the phone does not feel like it is really running as hard as the system monitors say, though it may still get hot.
Where can I find the older ROM? I thought the bootloader would not allow going to older ROMs, or maybe I am mistaken.
I am re-flashing the leaked 2.2 update to make sure there was no issue with the original install. I am also using the copy my GF downloaded when I sent her the instructions on the off chance that my download was corrupted in some small way; unlikely but hey. I do think that the original flash may have gone wrong, as mine hung and never rebooted after the flash was complete; I had to manually reboot. Lets hope this fixes it.
This issue may be more widespread than we realize, as many people do not actively monitor their cpu or notice/worry about the heat after charging. I do believe that these leaked ROMs send debug data to google, I remember reading something along those lines; these are internal test ROMs after all. Maybe this is a reason that 2.2 is not out yet, this and other bugs found during real world use.
Marine6680 said:
Where can I find the older ROM? I thought the bootloader would not allow going to older ROMs, or maybe I am mistaken.
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What I did was follow this guide up to the point where you have a stock eclair rom, then not upgrade to Froyo. Keep using that for some time, see whether the phone gets hot or not, THEN (if you want) move back to Froyo.
I am using the wall charger hat came with the nexus one. I am also running Froyo 2.2... can I set a CPU fail safe without my phone being rooted? Also what is a quick to check if my phone is rooted? I just bought this Nexus One from someone. I know on my G1 it was rooted bc I had Superuser permissions.
Using OSmonitor I can sort the processes by their CPU load and the one process that always has the highest load is " /init" which always has around 85-96% of the load. You can also kill these processes directly inside of OSmonitor and I have tried killing " /init" to no avail.
The fastest way I can think would be installing Lamppu, then trying to use it to light up the camera flash. If it works your phone is flashed, if it doesn't it's not.
As for your other questions... sorry, i don't know. I hope someone else can help you.
foethalove said:
Using OSmonitor I can sort the processes by their CPU load and the one process that always has the highest load is " /init" which always has around 85-96% of the load. You can also kill these processes directly inside of OSmonitor and I have tried killing " /init" to no avail.
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Thats a system process so you can not kill it.
Going to test my GFs nexus and see if she has these issues as well.
I restored my N1 to the factory image, the updated back through each update to 2.2; so far so good. My GF's N1 has been running fine since I really started watching it, so I figured it would hurt to try to restore and redo the update.
No 100% cpu load during charging any more!
i am using the Motorola charger and my phone is not getting hot at all. with the charger that comes in the box for the N1 it seems to heat up.
Still had the CPU load get stuck at 100% today; though charging is not forcing 100% loads any more.
By the way, how do you measure how busy the processor is? How do you know that it's at 100%?
frandavid100 said:
By the way, how do you measure how busy the processor is? How do you know that it's at 100%?
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System monitor apps, some will even put a little icon in the notification tray that shows current cpu load.

ok so i could use some help... please...

alright it is with great pain that i am writing this, but i really need some help here. for months i've read the forums, searched for answers, asked little individual questions, IMed with people directly for help... and i'm still having trouble.
i rooted my T-Mobile G1 all the way back when cupcake first came out. everything was great. life was grand. everything ruled. i was a happy android fanboy, talking friends into switching to android, talking crap about iphones... the works... but slowly things started getting slower and slower and slower...
the obvious thing was to wipe and reflash. i was constantly just updating to newer cyanogen roms at that point without wiping. so i wiped to the newest cyanogen at the time (can't remember at this point, but just picture it was like a couple months after cupcake). so things were good again for a little bit, but then it started slowing down again, getting FC's, etc. so a friend recommended i switch to superD... i did, and again, everything was great for a while. i consistently upgraded superD roms (sometimes wiping in between sometimes not). eventually i got to the point where i was on the most recent superD release. it lasted about a day before things started slowing down. examples include when i hit home to exit an application and go to the home screen, the whole screen would either turn black or just show my wallpaper for a good 5 seconds before my home screen would appear, or opening the browser would take like 10 seconds. lots of slow down.
so with the help of a friend i decided to completely wipe and reformat/repartition my sd card. i bought titanium backup but i didn't even bother with it, i said to myself, look, you barely use any of the stuff you have right now, how about just start fresh and reinstall things as you need them manually. so i formatted, repartitioned (using amon Ra's recovery, using the menu option that helps you do it automatically). i made sure i had the most recent radio and spl (this was just a couple months ago), and reflashed the most recent superD (i think its 1.11 if i remember correctly)... again, maybe one day of good performance before everything slowed down. this was also about the time when my battery life started becoming an issue. i'm not exaggerating when i say i couldn't make it home without breaking under 20% battery by the end of the day... and i really don't use my phone THAT much. i'd say i'm a little above average on my usage. i'll get into my widgets and apps in a second, but i really don't use that much stuff...
SO... continuing my story (thanks for sticking with me if you're still reading...). when cyanogens 2.1 for the g1 rom came out (5.0.8d/s) i decided it was time for a change. i reformatted AGAIN, repartioned AGAIN, and flashed 5.0.8. basically, i've got the same story going on. slowdowns, poor battery life, etc.
so here i am with my cyanogen 5.0.8 flashed g1. let me tell you about apps and widgets and stuff. right now i have a regular wallpaper (not live), 14 icons between my 5 screens and just the google search and power management widgets. i used to have calwidget, the genie widget (both news and weather), and the setcpu widgets too, but i decided to take them off to see if it would help with performance. zero help. apps that i either know for sure are always running or i think may have some impact are twidroyd, newsrob, craigsnotif (craigslist notifier), and dealdroid. i don't think any other apps are running and/or do automatic updates for content and stuff like that.
i also use cachemate (purchased) regularly to clear my caches. apps2sd is enabled.
i'm not sure what other information you'd need to help me out, but just let me know and i'll try to give you more details.
right now, i've got slow down like almost all the time. things are constantly pausing, slowing down. i feel like i'm back on my t-mobile mda with winmo5 haha. and forget about it with the battery. i left the house with 90% battery this morning. i went to the gym. went home. picked up lunch. came to work. its been like 4 hours. i currently have 19% battery. all i've done is make 2 phone calls, about a dozen text messages and i've sent 2 tweets (about my battery problem haha). i also used google maps once to look up a number. my wifi and gps is off.
so there we go. really guys, please please please. help me out if you can. any help would be appreciated. i'm so sick of this. and i'm stuck in contract until july 2011. so i'm not getting a new phone any time soon. i gotta figure this thing out.
i really appreciate your help.
thanks.
Dave
OH... and PS... forgot to mention that I just got a new battery this week thinking maybe the battery was just getting old and bad. obviously, no such luck.
I had the same issues till I flashed a SuperD, then everything was fine. I just recently flashed the Froyo from Cyanogen and its like it fixed everything and I'm on a brand new device (knock on wood)!
How old is your G1? Do we know if there are issues with the first run out of the factory? Is that even an issue?
i got the g1 last july. so it was already out for a while at that point. it was new from a store though. i suppose there could be something actually wrong with the phone itself, but i don't know. i was thinking of trying the cyanogen froyo but because its not a stable release yet i figured it would be just this bad or worse...
I promise cm5.0.8 has wonderful battery life when no custom apps are installed and not on any network..
so the question is what is your phone doing, and ought it be doing what it is doing.
There are some nice built in tools for this
Applications->running services
And
Applications -> manage applications (check out the filter in the menu from that screen)
You may be surprised by the apps the think they need to constantly have a service running for some painful trivial job the android API has better interfaces for.. if in addition to that you don't need the app uninstall it.
Otherwise experiment with comp cache and lock launcher in memory.
another example, as i was reading this i was on the phone and i just finished the call and hung up, and i was previously in text messages, it took 12 seconds for my text messages to come up. thats just insane...
as for running services:
- GTalkService <--- I use GTalk all the time
- GenieRefresh Service (Restarting) <--- weird considering I disabled this widget, although I'd LIKE to have it back
- Maps FriendsAppWidgetUpdater (Restarting) <--- never used this in my life
- NewsRob UnreadWidgetProvidor (Restarting) <--- never used the widget before (as a matter of fact, you have to pay to use the widget and i have the free version... weird)
-Twidroyd Background Service <--- understandable, I use this constantly
- AKNotepad Snaptic Update (Restarting) <---- umm... I use this all the time but I don't know why a notepad program would need an updater service running... interesting...
- Swype <---- gotta have that
- CM Updater (Restarting) <--- Don't really think that needs to be on all the time. Can easily manually refresh that...
So that's it. I didn't realize this was included now. Very cool. On older roms I had to use task managers which don't seem to really work. I'm going to stop everything except twidroyd, gtalk and swype right now and see how that does... at the bottom it says Avail: 3.2MB+0.00B in 0 ... Other: 55MB in 4 ... While typing that the Maps FriendsAppWidget just popped back up... I'm gonna see if theres a setting...
In the meantime, does any of this give you any ideas? thank you so much for the advice. Also what does (Restarting) mean?
ezterry said:
Otherwise experiment with comp cache and lock launcher in memory.
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oh and i have compcache not checked and launcher in memory IS checked... i just tried turning on the compcache option... lets see how that goes...
ok so...
now that i know about those things that were running, i stopped all the ones i don't need, and also went into the apps to see if there was any options for turning off automatic updates, background syncing, etc etc for those things... i'm gonna charge my phone while getting ready to go out and then we'll see how it goes throughout the evening. lets see if i make it home with more than 20% battery left (i'll be gone for like 5 hours). if so then we're on to something here still i find it weird that i can't have a few widgets loaded. but whatever, i'll take a smoothly running phone that lasts all day and i just have to click on icons to get to stuff any day... thanks for the help, i'll let you know how its going tomorrow.
the next day
ok so i tried the compcache and keep launcher in memory options last night, messing with both settings. i found that every possible combination became very unstable other than the one i already had (which was compcache off and launcher in memory on). after trying to shut excessive running services like i mentioned yesterday, and also restarting the phone and then shutting them again, i got NO difference in performance OR battery life...
so back to square one... any ideas guys?
thanks so much for any help you can give me. i really really appreciate it.
polarbearmc said:
ok so i tried the compcache and keep launcher in memory options last night, messing with both settings. i found that every possible combination became very unstable other than the one i already had (which was compcache off and launcher in memory on). after trying to shut excessive running services like i mentioned yesterday, and also restarting the phone and then shutting them again, i got NO difference in performance OR battery life...
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Um... The compcache instability scares me a bit
Compcache has had issues (maybe still does) where the first time you enable it the phone crashes.. but then works fine with Compcache on reboot. Otherwise it really ought no make the phone unstable. (it may or may not speed things up depending on how memory is being used.. usually however it allows 12MB of memory that is rarely used to be compressed, allowing a little more active memory to be utilized) You may want to look into wiping dalvik-cache both on the internal memory and SD card:
Enter console and run (this will restart the phone)
Code:
rm -rf /data/dalvik-cache/*
rm -rf /cache/dalvik-cache/*
rm -rf /sd-ext/dalvik-cache/*
reboot
if you get an error about no files found thats not an issue; but other errors may indicate a problem.
This may help system stability (with or without compcache) .. but won't do anything about the battery life (nor speed unless something was seriously wrong)
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Unfortunately you will either need to erase all your apps and just run stock CM5 [maybe slowly restore your apps you really need] -- OR -- be very patient and debug whatever application(s) are causing issues on your phone (and maybe complain to the dev for failing to read/understand google's documentation on how to write android applications.. not that some of the google apps haven't quite figured that out until recently)
Thus again the main question is what is running on your phone.. The places I mentioned before allow you to see the services (most of which usually restart if you run the related application again) but not strictly all the details to look for.
Example 1 An widget service is likely holding onto memory starving timer services (those not listed) and swapping out other services (phone/launcher making everything feel slow) At the same time the widget is not very active usually and may not connect to the internet at all; thus may not reduce battery life.
Example 2 An IM client on the other hand may requires a service to keep TCP/IP connections alive, and if not coded properly may be very persistent and cause a slow continual stream of data from your phone requiring a large amount of power to keep the phone on 2G/Edge.
Example 3 A Task killer an kill tasks that re-spawn, or kill a task in use if it doesn't know better causing things to behave in strange ways.. so can killing services/applications from the setting screens btw.. but at least that is a one off by user decision not a automatic operation in the background. Tasks when re-spawned may require more data from the internet thus more power to 2G/Edge
User: Then the one that causes me the most problems: A user that keeps the phone in his/her pocket rather than surfing the web, checking XDA, or continuously checking the battery level is using the device less thus will have longer battery life. (careful to not fall into this trap)
Other Ideas:
SetCPU: set the sleep CPU low in profiles (sleep for me is 245/160)[/*]
Verify End action: Settings->End Button Behavior->Go to sleep[/*]
Set longer periods between polls in applications that poll the net (example twitter every 10 or 20mins.. not 5)[/*]
Larger net transfers on wifi if available (example tell newsrob to sync on wifi only) wifi drains the battery faster than idle, but is much cheaper if larger amounts of data are involved.[/*]
As you can see many things will impact the system. You will need to find the ones eating your battery
Another helpful screen for debugging this may be Settings->Spare Parts->Battery History and Settings->Spare Parts->Usage Statistics
I get between 4h and 12h batter life under semi-normal conditions. 4h = surfing 3g + tappatalk + games.. 12h check email/tweat if i get one.. otherwise stays in my pocket. I've seen my test phone hang out for days on a 2g network without data. (so you can always set your apn type to mms if you just need it to be a phone for many hours.. mms keeps mms support btw)
Ebuddy (and most other MSN/AIM/ect chat clients is frequently one of the biggest problems on my phone.. so if I need more battery those are the first to go.. and whomever it is can poke me on gtalk/txt/or wait
Good luck in your search.. Took me a while to make cm5 work as long as cm4.. most of it was mis-behaving apps that I either know to shut off when I need longer battery life.. or have found replacements for.. or avoid widget functionality if the widget was misconfigured. (

Starting with Optimus X2 needs, hints, must haves, possibilities

Hi there,
im new on the Optimus X2 and i am trying to figure out what you can do withit.
i got several questions and hope you can tell and or help me withit.
My first action on using Android was to put version 2.2.2 i think, on my HD2 Leo using clockwork and NAND. Had no experience to do stuff like that before, but great forum here helped me trough it.
so...
1.
I´ve heard about problems with the battery, that lifetime is not displayed right.
I think i may have something like that too. sometimes battery run out after only about 5-9 hours (using web and/or games)of course i am using it in that time but that seems to be a little bit too fast. In standby sometime it is turning off after 12-18 hours, of course using it with calls and sms sometimes.
2.
There normally should be an update or something, i thought the X2 is beeing delivered with android 2.3.? or will be updated soon after selling?
Are there any official information?
3.
I thought X2 will be out with 512mb ram?
when i start 3-4 apps and close them down, sometimes the advanced task killer shows before closing programs only 50-60 mb ram (is it ram?), after closing goes back up to about 180.
its not that nice when you want to take pictures or record video in F-HD is not working properly. have to close down everything before.
4.
What is this Cm7? i read alot about it, but i still dont know exactly what it is?
I`ve allready rooted my phone, whats a good app for deinstalling systemstuff and preinstalled games and apps?
5.
What are the 10 most useful and must have apps/programs to configure, style, and use youre phone?
6.
Are you guys using different roms? are there faster ones, more stable, less battery using?
7.
I got an 8gb external sd card, system only is showing , 4,9gb of 5,9gb free, maybe an sdcard bug like HD2 Leo had a time ago?
phone specification:
phone is rooted
I am using android 2.2.2
Baseband version 1035.21_20110405
Kernel version 2.6.32.9
Build number FRG83G
LG Version LGP990-V10d
Vodafone Germany Branding
answer in english or german
antworten gerne in deutsch oder englisch
thx for help and best regards
kingleroy85 said:
1.
I´ve heard about problems with the battery, that lifetime is not displayed right.
I think i may have something like that too. sometimes battery run out after only about 5-9 hours (using web and/or games)of course i am using it in that time but that seems to be a little bit too fast. In standby sometime it is turning off after 12-18 hours, of course using it with calls and sms sometimes.
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Battery life is a bit of an issue with the stock rom, since, on Froyo, there apparently is a problem with idle power consumption. This is much better on some of the custom roms based on Gingerbread, e.g. CM7.
kingleroy85 said:
2.
There normally should be an update or something, i thought the X2 is beeing delivered with android 2.3.? or will be updated soon after selling?
Are there any official information?
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The "official" rumours are, that there will definatelly be a 2.3.* update, though when is not clear, we will possibly have to wait until fall to get it.
kingleroy85 said:
3.
I thought X2 will be out with 512mb ram?
when i start 3-4 apps and close them down, sometimes the advanced task killer shows before closing programs only 50-60 mb ram (is it ram?), after closing goes back up to about 180.
its not that nice when you want to take pictures or record video in F-HD is not working properly. have to close down everything before.
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Ideally, Android should be managin the RAM for you. The device does have 512 MB RAM, but mind that there is alot of stuff on the stock rom. You can have more available to you by
deleting or disabling widgets on the stock rom
installing a custom rom
kingleroy85 said:
4.
What is this Cm7? i read alot about it, but i still dont know exactly what it is?
I`ve allready rooted my phone, whats a good app for deinstalling systemstuff and preinstalled games and apps?
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It is called CyanogenMod7, and is a very popular custom rom, which exists for a lot of different Android devices, including the LGOS. It is also based on 2.3.4, so it basically already is a Gingerbread Rom, but I think it still has a Froyo kernel and/or userspace, so not completely native.
kingleroy85 said:
5.
What are the 10 most useful and must have apps/programs to configure, style, and use youre phone?
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I'm not gonna call out 10 apps here, but living in Germany, you should definatelly check out "Öffi" (free). I also find Maverick (payware), GPS Essentials (Free) and Dropbox (free) to be quite handy.
kingleroy85 said:
6.
Are you guys using different roms? are there faster ones, more stable, less battery using?
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This depends on how happy you are with modding your phone and flashing things on it. There can be quite a bit of work necessary to get a custom rom running on your phone, but it might be worth your while. I've used custom roms mainly for the fact that they can have massively lower battery consumption when the phone is idling (e.g. display off, standby). When using the phone actively, I've not found differences to be that big regarding battery life.
kingleroy85 said:
7.
I got an 8gb external sd card, system only is showing , 4,9gb of 5,9gb free, maybe an sdcard bug like HD2 Leo had a time ago?
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You are probably confusing the internal sd card with your external one. Keep in mind that the LGOS has a 6GiB internal sd card.
ok
thank you for this detailed answer.
i will take a look on the other Roms and will try it i think.
The problem with the sd card is not from confusing with the internal one.
Using the App, App 2 SD Free phone memory is showing me 1,45GB, on SD Card which must be the internal one shows me 5,51GB and on moveable which seems to be the external sd card it shows me 1,45GB again instood of my 8GB SD?
thx for help

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