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I owned mi3, redmi note 3 pro..both phones seems quite popular in xda in term of custom kernel, custom roms and even official CM. Was tempted to buy mi5, but it seems in xda, custom kernel, roms is quite less than other phones?
gamesky said:
it seems in xda, custom kernel, roms is quite less than other phones?
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That's because other phones have either had their kernel source published on handset release or, as is the case with other Xiaomi phones, have had their kernel source available for some time. Mi5 kernel source was only released a month ago.
If you check the ROM/kernel development section you'll see that it is fairly active, and will only become more active now the Mi5 is dropping in price and CM13 has reached official nightlies. More CM13 based ROMs will appear, as will kernels implementing 32GB model overclocking and other improvements.
For value for money (new) 5" handsets that have quality active community support I can't see any other phone on the market right now competing with the Mi5. I have already bought two and would buy another one in a heartbeat.
xiaomi as usual, late in kernel release, i thought they improved since mi3 era, lol..
Man, for the price of the Mi5 and the specs it has... i don't think it's too late.
Obviously there's more smartphones coming out but I think if we keep on supporting and donating to the devs, I'd say that in no time (maybe a month) we will have several ROMs and custom kernels for our device. There's no need to worry (I guess). Actually I don't like MIUI much, but right now (today) is the best ROM for daily usage. I will switch to CM when I think it's the best time to. But, I've actually donated and done my help to those who are developing it. Done my part, and hopefully will have a great ROM in no time.
Yes, Xiaomi isn't a great "dev friendly brand" but the actual released kernel is a start. I think MIUI will upgrade to Nougat in the near months, and if the sources come out, it's surely great news for us. Just keep on waiting and take advantage of the great device Mi5 is.
I gave up on the mi5, lack of effort from Xiaomi makes the device pretty poor device.
Ordered an One plus 3t, when i get it i will sell my Mi5, it will be my last Xiaomi device ever.
Mi5 not really popular . But it good phone with cheap price and good spec . I dont even care about Xiaomi not making this phone really good . As long as i can use CyanogenMod even it official or unofficial .
The problem is not the developers at xda, but without proper sources from xiaomi there will not be bugfree CM or any other roms.
Does anybody have any words/rumors about possible CM/AOSP development for the Mi Mix? I love my Mi Mix but I'm really not feeling MIUI at all. Would love to run a CM/AOSP rom on this phone instead. Though being exclusively available in China only really kills the development momentum from the get go. But a man can dream, can't he?
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Does anybody have any words/rumors about possible CM/AOSP development for the Mi Mix? I love my Mi Mix but I'm really not feeling MIUI at all. Would love to run a CM/AOSP rom on this phone instead. Though being exclusively available in China only really kills the development momentum from the get go. But a man can dream, can't he?
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I agree. I want an AOSP ROM android 7.1.
You'll have to be patient and wait it out as the devices is new and overpriced if you want it now.
Sounds like CM is in the works:
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AndroidPolice/~3/wrL7SoG0n1w/
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Looks like a typo by AndroidPolice, it's for the Mi MAX (hydrogen), not our phone (lithium).
It's still early, way too early to throw in the towel....
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any updates guys?
Is there no way to contribute (monetarily) to help get AOSP?
no kernel sources released by xiaomi, no aosp. it looks like on my previous mi note pro (chinese only device), which took ages to get sources released.
We could get device tree from similar device and build from there but it's gonna be painful and probably we're looking at a half baked product that wouldn't be usable anyway.
In the meantime, we'll wait for the source to be release.
Should be able to pull the blobs from the phone or the build but without the kernel source I'm not sure how to get started. Has anyone seen the kernel source yet?
Xiaomi is usually too lazy to release Kernel sources for devices which don't sell all that much.
They usually release kernel sources for their flagship mass market devices, like the mi5 and also the mid range devices like the Redmi Note and Max as these are officially sold in a few asian markets outside of China.
The low end and the phones mainly intended for the Chinese market are usually left out. Also considering their phones dont support Google officially in the Chinese market, Android version upgrades aren't a priority for them. Majority of their consumers are content with the MIUI upgrages.
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Xiaomi is usually too lazy to release Kernel sources for devices which don't sell all that much.
They usually release kernel sources for their flagship mass market devices, like the mi5 and also the mid range devices like the Redmi Note and Max as these are officially sold in a few asian markets outside of China.
The low end and the phones mainly intended for the Chinese market are usually left out. Also considering their phones dont support Google officially in the Chinese market, Android version upgrades aren't a priority for them. Majority of their consumers are content with the MIUI upgrages.
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Maybe they learn, said this was a concept phone and aren't making many, plenty out there now, and what we're now making a white one, XDA calls the shots, think they don't check this site.
Well, atleast some super moderator in the MIUI forums have confirmed that the Mix is next in line to receive Nougat. So thats there. At the moment, I'm quite happy with the EU ROM. Its bloat-free and has great battery life. I would love to see CM(LineageOS) at one point though.
As much as I hate Apple devices for their closed eco-system, their UI is very polished. I know MIUI aims to look too much like iOS. Apart from the launcher, I dont have problems with MIUI.
And MIUI is one of the better skins on Android. I'll pick MIUI over most other manufacturer skins like Samsung's Touchwiz or LG's UI.
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Well, atleast some super moderator in the MIUI forums have confirmed that the Mix is next in line to receive Nougat. So thats there. At the moment, I'm quite happy with the EU ROM. Its bloat-free and has great battery life. I would love to see CM(LineageOS) at one point though.
As much as I hate Apple devices for their closed eco-system, their UI is very polished. I know MIUI aims to look too much like iOS. Apart from the launcher, I dont have problems with MIUI.
And MIUI is one of the better skins on Android. I'll pick MIUI over most other manufacturer skins like Samsung's Touchwiz or LG's UI.
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There's no way a device won't get custom ROMs sooner or later it's a developer's dream.
There definitely is a way. If they don't release the kernel source, that's it for anything but modified stock roms.
http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=462506&pid=8662826
thats the only custom rom for the mix thus far and they claim that AOSP will be starting soon
In case ya'll didn't know, someone from EpicROM team on MIUI Official Forum mentioned that AOSP development for Mi MIx will start soon.
Any news?
I would also love to know if anyone has any information as a AOSP rom for this phone would be awesome
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Any news?
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I recall the developer said that they will release a LOS built once an official miui nought ROM hits the device.
matever said:
I would also love to know if anyone has any information as a AOSP rom for this phone would be awesome
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See my response to the previous post.
Dear OnePlus 3t owners,
Is it sensible to buy a new OP3T after OP decided to kill updates post-O?
On this device, easy root, no updates but plenty of community support.
On others (S8, XZ Premium, other mainstream flagships), loss of features with root, somewhat more updates with less community support.
Please help me take my decision, and any and all help is greatly appreciated!
It depends if you want a phone to play around and mod or you want a phone to have longer updates although longer updates are not a guarantee in any brand even Google promises updates for 2 years only. 3t is still a pretty good device and I think we'll have good dev support for atleast a couple of years
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No update ? Hmm, don't know where you see this, OpenBeta 13 has just been release today.
Personally, I bought the OnePlus 3T like one week ago for 350e on Ebay, very happy with with.
Before it, I bought a OnePlus 5 day one, and, well, if I'm here today, it's because I was very disappointed (*cough* Jelly Effect *cough* ), and I bought the OnePlus 3T because I need a new device right now: I prepare a trip in South Korea, and need a new device to replace the time bomb OnePlus 2 (sorry about my life topic).
I share the idea about the fact that the OnePlus 3T was the true Flagship Killer: low price for very good specs.
You can see that the device is still in top 3 devices on XDA (behind Samsung Galaxy S8/S8+ and LG G6), and for me, it's an indicator that the OnePlus 3T still has a bright future.
So yeah, OnePlus won't update the OnePlus 3T after Android O (but still security update tho), but he, we are on XDA, so plenty of custom ROMs available!
After all, I can't either ""force"" you to buy or not the OnePlus 3T. It depends on multiple points
-How many you want to put in your phone ?
-What is a good smartphone for you ?
-Do you care about officials updates of custom ROMs is ok for you ?
1. No updates: I actually meant "no major version updates".
2. So you have bought the 5 and saw that the 3T was better in comparison?
3. Are custom ROMs stable as stock on this device? (My 1st OP device, hope ROMs are as stable as stock to the contrary of Samsung)
4. Is the camera on custom ROMs any good (as in decent) without camera blobs from OnePlus?
Thanks for your advice! I'm actually biased towards buying the device but I have had my reservations
Well, I'm a tinkerer but I really prefer more updates as I do prefer longevity (3-4 years of college, not enough $$$ to spend on phones). Thank you a lot!
I don't think it'll matter. Android O will be a nice send off and I think said that they'll provide security updates also. The community will support this phone for many android revisions and groups/people like PA or Sultan got the same camera quality on their AOSP roms
Also, you said that you bought the 3T to replace your "time-bomb" OP2. How is the 2 a time bomb exactly? And could the 3T become one too?
I'm content with the device on O but as soon as P rolls out a problem arises. Community ROMs are not exactly stable (coming from Samsung, no idea w/ OP3T though) and I've read somewhere that PA and/or Sultan received the blobs from OP through bribery or something ... What do you think?
So you have bought the 5 and saw that the 3T was better in comparison?
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Jelly Effect is a deal breaker for me. Search for it on internet, you will see.
Are custom ROMs stable as stock on this device?
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For now, I don't know. I just flash a custom kernel on my device, but still under OxygenOS for now.
Is the camera on custom ROMs any good (as in decent) without camera blobs from OnePlus?
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As I said, I don't know. But some recognized devs build ROMs which camera which seems to be as good as stock one (such as SultanXDA's ROM or ParanoidAndroid)
Also, you said that you bought the 3T to replace your "time-bomb" OP2. How is the 2 a time bomb exactly? And could the 3T become one too?
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The OnePlus 2 was produced with the Snapdragon 810, which is, let's be honest, a sh*t. My user experience with it was pretty bad. Also, I don't know if you saw, but the Nexus 6P (which also has the Snapdragon 810) is victims of problems with this processor: actually, some users have a phone which can't even boot anymore. A user find a solution, but actually, the phone now uses 4 cores (the little cluster) instead of 8 (little + big cluster): I don't want the OnePlus 2 to ends like this, so I bought a new phone, just to be sure.
Aaaaand I f*cked up my answer. Of course, this posts contains answer to your questions @WaseemAlkurdi
Custom roms are far more stable on the 3t then on Samsung devices. Less hacking needed.
Updates are kinda over rated at this point. With the 3t you can just build it yourself. Though I would avoid Los based or PA based roms. Those tend to have the most issues with things like instability.
Think of it this way: would you buy this phone and use it as is, or would you out a custom ROM on it?
It might not get any updates from UP after O, but it's gonna get at least 3 more years of support from Lineage and others.
There are a plethora of "stable" custom built ROMs by several very talented developers.
To say that community ROMs are not stable is an EXTREMELY uninformed comment.
I've been running some form of a custom ROM for the past 7 years over a a multitude of phones following well known developers that in my opinion and experience put out better device software than the factory.
If you do choose the OP3T, you'll not be disappointed as it's a quality device with excellent community support.
Like could I build "OxygenOS P" myself?
And if LOS and PA ROMs aren't stable, is AOSP so? And that makes for a tradeoff for camera quality, as an earlier comment said that camera is the best on PA and Sultan (Sultan's being LOS based AFAIK)
@giant22000
Seems like it's going to be the OnePlus 3t after all, and what remains to be done is convincing my dad that an unknown China OEM (in local market's view - not our view) can make solid hardware.
"To say that community ROMs are not stable is an EXTREMELY uninformed comment."
This is relative. Coming from various Samsung devices, namely the Galaxy Grand 2 and the Galaxy Star (the crappiest device known to mankind) and servicing others including flagship models, it does happen that custom ROMs are, to say the best, variable in stability, ranging from crappiest (CM on the Galaxy S Duos and on the Star) to semi-stable (the stuff on high-end phones.
@ast00
I am a tinkerer by nature, no Android phone is mine unless the bootloader is unlocked, custom ROM, kernel, overclock, and later on, development.
I am only concerned about official updates as this may mean eventually being deserted by the community. Is this the case here?
@casual_kikoo
Thanks for your detailed answers!
Yes AOSP tend to be more stable then the other two. Just look at the thread and you will see issues with bootloops and other things. Yet AOSP based roms do not suffer from this.
The camera is good enough no matter the range. I tested both and to be honest it made little difference.
No you are not gonna build Oxygen OS as it is closed source but then again why would you want to?
Stability, mate. Heard that OOS is the most stable, then comes AOSP, then comes LOS.
And if it were possible to build OOS, the update issue would be fixed of course. But alas, it isn't possible, as you said.
No. Most ROMs run on the 3 and the 3T. I mean you flash the same zip for both phones.
This is good because our community is the size of 2 phone's communities. You will have plenty of support later on.
Take nexus 5 as example, its still getting regular rom updates such as PA or lineage, this device will be no different.. it will receive android updates from xda community for a long time
I don't mean to offend any developer with my questions
-Why after a year from the release of this phone
There are few roms (mostly unofficial) with more or less the same bugs?
-Why there Is no official support for the most famous roms? (lineageOS, crDroid, pixel experience)
- why some Devs moved to Telegram?
-what are the difficulties that the developers have encountered with this phone?
The pe Dev said it will be official soon
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- why some Devs moved to Telegram?
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I am interested in this the most. Makes it hard to track any developement.
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cihot said:
I am interested in this the most. Makes it hard to track any developement.
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+1 billion
I hate telegram
faustin95 said:
I don't mean to offend any developer with my questions
-Why after a year from the release of this phone
There are few roms (mostly unofficial) with more or less the same bugs?
-Why there Is no official support for the most famous roms? (lineageOS, crDroid, pixel experience)
- why some Devs moved to Telegram?
-what are the difficulties that the developers have encountered with this phone?
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I dont have this phone yet. I have a Mi8.
But here is my guess.
They probably dont have full access to source code yet
They are young, but able students so their time is limited.
A lot of the users are highly entitled and dont appreciate their hard work and rarely if ever, make a donation to them so why bother.
Rock Star developers from the past are burned out on making roms, and too busy with professional life projects.
As I mentioned I am considering this phone, and do not know anyone her yet. Hopefully the best developers stick around and build a legacy and loyal/supportive followers.
If you have not tried Xiaomi.EU its pretty fantastic, It's like a much more westernised version of Miui with the most annoying bloat and adware completely removed.
@tsongming has a great point and I'll add that for android 10 there are at least these:
LineageOS 17.1 Unofficial
Evolution-X 4.0 Unofficial
Havoc
Extended UI based
Derpfest
Bootleggers
Paranoid Android Quartz
Pixel experience
and also all the miui variants
As the name says, it's custom, 3rd party, there's no obligation for anyone to make it. Developers make what they want to make. Especially since it's not a paid work, it's totally their choice. Just appreciate that there are some available and give donation if you use them.
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@tsongming has a great point and I'll add that for android 10 there are at least these:
LineageOS 17.1 Unofficial
Evolution-X 4.0 Unofficial
Havoc
Extended UI based
Derpfest
Bootleggers
Paranoid Android Quartz
Pixel experience
and also all the miui variants
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The customs that are avaiable, unofficial or not almost all use the same source... thats why they have basicly all the same bugs.
But why they moved to telegram? some off them are fed up with people complaining, although its free off charge and they all do it in spare time. I dont know iff this is the case for majority but for some this is the case.
But i also regret its moved to telegram
But the source code is released only lately so now devs can build better, more stable roms..
Keep in mind i am not a dev off any roms provided above
This isn't a ROM request. But it's purely a discussion of what users think of this idea for a custom ROM.
I've had a recent discussion and thought of a possible new idea for a custom ROM with a friend.
The Idea
Ever since I've been switching to a custom ROM, the look of it makes me miss OOS 10 before OnePlus changed it to look like OneUI.
Is there a way in which a custom ROM can be based on Oxygen OS 10 or at least a custom ROM that has the same UI and feel? It could also be OOS 11, but there's a reason why OnePlus hasn't released it to older devices as it could still have bugs, but at least OOS 10 which many fans loved.
It doesn't matter if we can't exactly replicate it, but at least have a similar UI and feel. Unlike most custom ROMs that are based on Lineage OS which looks similar to the Google Pixel UI. I just feel that the classic OOS UI is still better.
Implications
Because it's a custom ROM it can have additional features and monthly updates of course. Also, within those updates, it could include monthly security patches which would be better maintained and consistent, unlike OnePlus which some feel that they have lost their touch in recent years. If this idea is developed to become a real ROM, it would be a full ROM and hopefully be better maintained.
What is the impact?
The impact this custom ROM could bring is that, if successful it can be developed for other or older devices and bring the version of OOS that everyone loved to many people. Developing a custom ROM that's like OOS10 that supports and updates older OP devices(OP3/3T, OP5/5T, OP6/6T) would better than how OnePlus supports and updates them.
Conclusion
This is just an idea proposal to all ROM developers and fans of the OP6/6T. I just believe that this could help all those people who love the stock look and feel of OOS but is better maintained with a bit more features with monthly updates and security patches. Plus they can continue to enjoy it for many more years to come. If this does come to fruition it can bring OOS we love back to us and to many more.
Please add any comments, criticisms, and thoughts.
Voting in the poll or adding a like will be great. Thanks.
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