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A few basic questions regarding using SIM unlocked Focus S, please help.

Question 1: Seems like Focus S is never getting as much love as HTC Titan for some reason, why is that?
OK, I just got two extra WP phones I got back in 2012 SIM unlocked, sammy focus S and HTC Titan. I plan to give one to my parents in China to use, who are not tech savvy nor heavy cellular data user at all. I have a few questions based on what I skimmed through several WP forums (XDA etc) that I need you experienced users' help.
1. Which one is more idiot-proof for old users, focus S or Titan?
2. Once I SIM unlocked it, I assume they can just pop a local SIM to talk and txt, right? Anything else that needs to be manually set up?
3. I noticed a few threads talking about tricks of setting APN with Straight Talk. How about TMobile? And I assume that's only used for data usage right? If my parents just use it to talk and txt plus WIFI, it should be fine just leave the settings unchanged?
4. Also a lot of threads were debating whether to upgrade to WP7.8 or not and how to do it. Now it's 2014, is WP7.8 upgrade pushed automatically by MS already or I still need to follow the instruction and use 3rd party tools to do it?
5. Is there any custom ROMs for this phone at all? And what are the immediate updates/mods you guys suggest if I boot up the phone for the first time.
Thanks so much.
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The focus s was unfortunately an ATT exclusive , meaning one of the best designed windows phone 7 devices ever made was also only available to a tiny number of users, hence the lack of love!
As for setting it up,network unlock it, interop unlock, setup apn , update to 7.8 an your done
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Focus S to android Os
So noone can get the Focus S to run any android Os ?

Bennyscrewz said:
So noone can get the Focus S to run any android Os ?
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Dude,
With the exception of ONE device, the immortal HTC HD2, there has never been any (current) device that has had cross platform support, and lets be clear about the HD2, it was a WM device, that was opened up, and rather handily was also used as a test platform for WP. its android life started out as a hack that ran (initially) from within windows, later moved to its own ROM via MAGLDR. There was a lot of very cleaver people using a single device thus it had a lot of support to do these wonderful things.
OEMs shipping android then went nuts and made so many new devices it diluted the support available to specific phones and effectively killed off any further "HD2 Moments"
So no, the focus S doesn't have Android support. No one is working on it, no one tried to and to my knowledge no one will ever work on it, the same can probably be said about most phones.
Besides that, I cant remember which one because there was so many different versions it is but its essentially the same as the Samsung Galaxy 2(s?) so why not buy that if you want android on it?
and Finally
This has been asked So many times about so many devices, even googling it brings up an answer within the first few posts. Just take this as a wee helping hint, try search for your questions, this site has so many users over so many devices that statistically, its likely any question you may have has probably been answered somewhere by someone else

How good is this phone? Is it worth going for this at this stage?

need some ques for firsthand users...is it laggy or smooth...hearing a lot of complaints about it...

go ahead, best phone at this price

There are touch issues with many of them, mine had also gone back to the service centre for touch repairs. Careful where you buy it from, you might not get warranty option

regret, i brought it based on its excellent specifications.
worst phone i ever had (china version).
better to buy xiaomi than lenovo, better of the worst.

saintsoh said:
regret, i brought it based on its excellent specifications.
worst phone i ever had (china version).
better to buy xiaomi than lenovo, better of the worst.
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what happened with your phone? the phone was pretty good in my opinion, did everything so well, i wish the camera was better but for the price its good. I only started the have touch issues after i dropped it from about 1.5m on concrete. I had the indian version but they are identical with different names and boxes

This phone is good..
If this phone is not good then xda won't let it have its own forum..
All those developers don't develope their rom or
They don't give all those supports..
For me its awesome..

You want the truth? Here you go!
I'm an end user of this phone myself and it is literally the worst phone I had ever experience because of this Phone I had to learn how to root and install custom recovery which I never done before in quite a while on the get-go. Not to mention that I had to learn about Xposed because it lacks customisation options. The Official OS sucks the worst trully! I prefer Nexus ROM by Dr. Root better. Specs are ok for the price and if you use Nexus Custom ROM as mentioned previously you will have a lot of free space for RAM. If you are a normal end consumer who wants it easy either look for another phone OR buy an iPhone, but if you have interest in technology and wants to customise your software, look no further this is by far the best cheap phone I used so far.
Here are the MUST you need:
1) Interest in android
2) Tech Savvy
3) Learn to root in anyway possible i.e. One-click root, SP Flash tool and/or adb fastboot
4) Learn more about Xposed framework
5) Learn to flash custom recovery using mobile uncle (or anything similar), SP Flash Tool and/or adb fastboot
Optional but very effective that you don't need the previos 5
6) Have a friend that can do number 1-5.
Once a gain and I quote "If you are a normal end consumer who wants it easy either look for another phone OR buy an iPhone, but if you have interest in technology and wants to customise your software, look no further this is by far the best cheap phone I used so far.". The Official ROM is full of bloatware that hogs your RAM thus choosing a Custom ROM is compulsory.

rpgiqbal said:
I had to learn how to root and install custom recovery which I never done before in quite a while on the get-go. Not to mention that I had to learn about Xposed because it lacks customisation options. The Official OS sucks the worst trully!
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No mate, you didnt have to learn it, you chose to do this yourself, you couldve simply used a stock launcher, but you didnt, you had youtube reviews showing it all, but you ignored that and still purchased the phone. The stock one isnt bad and the stock OS does not suck so dont go ahead blaming it because you didnt like it and made poor decisions.
buy an iPhone
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if someone is looking at buying this phone, why would they opt for an iphone which is 5 times the price?
OP its all about preference, if you have a price range and cant go higher, go for this phone, keep in mind, it has no app drawer, but you get used to it, also if you want an app drawer or stock feel, you can always install a launcher like google launcher or nova. This phone is very good for its price and i would highly recommend it, just be warned about the touch issues many users are facing

stock OS is one of the biggest sh*t (chinese version).
the moment it is connected, if u r lucky using wifi, otherwise data connection cost money wasted on all the bloated malwares downloaded.
worst of all, lenovo game center, apps/games applicable to china only.
if it is ROW (Rest-Of-the-World) maybe better, no gapps for chinese version.
local radio (ota) cut-off every 15 minutes.
speaker too small and soft, always missed call in my pocket.
heat up every fast.
everything in chinese widgets/themes/fonts...........
weather only in china cities......
lists continue....unable to uninstall bloatware, some unable to disable............
block all bloatwares permission to data connection/wifi/auto-start run/background-run still some able to auto-run............
how good can stock os be?
nonsense, it is so bad, tats why custom roms are put up on xda......
ps;
since i had this phone, there r several major updates (chinese version) in just a few months. this will never happens to any phone makers, reasons is very simply....too many sh*tty problems.
op if u r not tech savvy or know basic linux commands, get yourself a xiaomi. at least they provide google installation apps, world-wide recognitions (not limited to regions eg. china, india, russia) and lesser problems from the go-start.
pss;
i had to use Mediatek engineering mode app to boost volume level, risk damaging to the phone speaker or my expensive head-set.
psss;
one last sh*t from lenovo.......install lenovo usb driver......it will load chinese malwares.
pssss;
i promise this will be the last of my sh*t......ROW (Rest-Of-the-World) does not means the WORLD, it meant for india and russia. if u live in these countries, its ok to buy.

Hartik said:
No mate, you didnt have to learn it, you chose to do this yourself, you couldve simply used a stock launcher, but you didnt, you had youtube reviews showing it all, but you ignored that and still purchased the phone. The stock one isnt bad and the stock OS does not suck so dont go ahead blaming it because you didnt like it and made poor decisions.
if someone is looking at buying this phone, why would they opt for an iphone which is 5 times the price?
OP its all about preference, if you have a price range and cant go higher, go for this phone, keep in mind, it has no app drawer, but you get used to it, also if you want an app drawer or stock feel, you can always install a launcher like google launcher or nova. This phone is very good for its price and i would highly recommend it, just be warned about the touch issues many users are facing
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I never think it was a mistake, for me. It was good that I purchase the phone with faulty ROM since I get to learn anything and everything about android. It's a win for me since the specs ain't bad.

Buy it if you want some adventure with android.
one of the Best community for a mid-range phone.
I learned a lot of things by using this phone.
From flashing custom ROMs, using SPFlash Tools(Really helpful, helped many of my friends to recover from bricking.)
I suggest you to buy this phone.

[Q] Quick question about CDA

Hi
I've bought a new D5803 from China and upgraded it (using Sony Companion) to Android 6.0.1 (23.5.A.0.575).
I just noticed the Customization Version that came with the phone is 1288-3732_R3D (Saudi Arabia I think?)
I live in the United Kingdom and was wondering if it's worth flashing 1288-4954_R10D (Generic UK).
What difference does it make if I stay with the Saudi CDA? any software restrictions?, or speed of update releases?
I've used the tool Flashtool/XperiFirm to build 1288-4954_R10D but after reading all the stories of people breaking their phones, I'm a bit hesitant to flash it.
I come from the Samsung i9505 section of XDA so things are a bit different here.
Thanks

dave_p_b said:
I live in the United Kingdom and was wondering if it's worth flashing 1288-4954_R10D (Generic UK).
What difference does it make if I stay with the Saudi CDA? any software restrictions?, or speed of update releases?
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You are wise to hesitate to start flashing, if you read further down this Q&A thread it's littered with cries for help from people who have either bricked their phones or lost the DRM keys, disabling some of the higher functions of the phone. Sony's insistence on using an encrypted partition with unique identifier keys on it, puts it a long way from the likes of Samsung & LG, where you can root and flash a rom on your new phone in about 5 minutes. This has caught a lot of people out who come to Sony from those phones.
I don't think using a Saudi build will have any impact. I once flashed a eastern European build on my phone, only to discover that the size of picture attachments to text messages, was to big for the UK providers.
But as long as everything works and you have no hankerings for root on your phone, then 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'
There is a great guide here, if you do want to go down the customisation road. Take your time to read the entire page, then possibly read it again, before you do anything.

Didgesteve said:
There is a great guide here, if you do want to go down the customisation road. Take your time to read the entire page, then possibly read it again, before you do anything.
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Sound advice Didgesteve. Thanks for the reply.
The phone is behaving perfectly at the moment (apart from a temperamental Contacts app).
I think I will spend time learning everything I can about this phone before I attempt to flash anything.
There are a few things I miss about root but the risk of bricking the phone through ignorance isn't worth it.
Thanks again for the pointers.

is anyone aware of any developers who are on their way to getting this phone

I only ask the above because we have one unofficial ROM and zero modified stock ROMs and nothing to flash in case of emergencies, it's off putting for me to modify anything as I've nothing on my memory to flash should I need it.
Not being needy, just concerned that this flagship isn't getting the treatment it deserves

Well there's reasons for that. Phone just came out not long ago, not released in the US, and in a strange move Huawei have said in two months bootloader unlocking won't officially be supported basically killing development for this phone unfortunately. I wouldn't expect any major developers moving their ROM's to us.

Giraff3 said:
Well there's reasons for that. Phone just came out not long ago, not released in the US, and in a strange move Huawei have said in two months bootloader unlocking won't officially be supported basically killing development for this phone unfortunately. I wouldn't expect any major developers moving their ROM's to us.
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Still find it odd, firstly with every flagship I've had and as you can see from my signature ( if you're viewing this on a pc ) I've had quite a few.
I have never once seen, after over a months release only one non official ROM available for a phone, the Sony z1 and the note 4 being the worst amongst every device I've had, the OnePlus and the HTC sensation being the best with the most.
Secondly there is a huge chance that Huawei will overturn their decision to allow bootloader unlocking, not only that but id have imagined that with today's developers whether or not Huawei allows unlocking, we would still have a hack around it S-Off for HTC devices springs to mind.
The US not being involved is a loss but at the same time, some of the best developers I've had the chance to communicate with here on XDA have been from all over the world, not too many from the US iirc so I'm not buying that.
I'm not bashing here but just a little concerned that not a single ROM had been released, I think it's a terribly sign for such a device to have nothing.
I've even been looking into making my own ROM myself, will know over the next few weeks if I can make that a reality or not, but as it stands I don't even have a starting base and the difference between devices unless debranded is quite stark and would probably end up bricking devices.
Such a shame, I sincerely hope it changes but I'm holding less and less hope as time goes on.
PS: I'm not sure but wasn't treble meant to be able to be used on this device too??

There are plenty of treble based ROMs and most of them should work fine.: https://forum.xda-developers.com/project-treble
Just flash them via TWRP. Otherwise Huawei phones have traditionally never had much independent ROM development.

mrabcx said:
There are plenty of treble based ROMs and most of them should work fine.: https://forum.xda-developers.com/project-treble
Just flash them via TWRP. Otherwise Huawei phones have traditionally never had much independent ROM development.
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Oh mate??? You might have just become my hero, I know literally nothing about project treble other than the fact that it may help with ROM flashing, but again have never done it..
Coming from the OnePlus 5 I never needed it.
Have you flashed any treble ROMs on this device ?
If you don't mind can I just ask.
If I flash something, how can I get back to my normal ROM if it becomes unbootable?
Update: @mrabcx
I tried to install a treble ROM, made a nand back up first and it failed to boot, restored nand and it's now back up and running.
I think we need a treble compatible twrp, does it even exist for the p20 pro??

I don't have P20 myself so can't answer that, but the phone is very similar to other Huawei phones such as Mate 10 and should in theory be able to boot Treble ROMs. I guess there could be some issues with clearing cache/wiping data etc. If you can post the details in the Treble ROM sections then I'm sure someone there will be able to help you out.

mrabcx said:
I don't have P20 myself so can't answer that, but the phone is very similar to other Huawei phones such as Mate 10 and should in theory be able to boot Treble ROMs. I guess there could be some issues with clearing cache/wiping data etc. If you can post the details in the Treble ROM sections then I'm sure someone there will be able to help you out.
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Yep I was under that impression myself, then I tried every single ROM there is in the treble section, not a single one booted.
Not only that but everyone there is trying to get it working on their phones so no one really cares for anyone else.
Not good.
Tried via fastboot as our twrp doesn't work.
Tried via twrp and the sand issue.

A sad time for the Nokia 5

Don't get me wrong, i still love this phone, but it's just sad it is almost completely ignored by HMD
The potential of giving this device custom roms and mods has pretty much died out now, for them not giving kernel source and not even allowing us to unlock our bootloaders. rooting is also almost impossible unless you want to pay for a bootloader unlock key or stay on Nougat to achieve a temporary unlock.
It's been two years now, and nothing has changed their minds, and no huge progress was made for this device here in xda, there is actually one custom rom under development but i think it's barely usable, and it was never finished, we all know this phone will soon virtually die because of lack of software support after the 2-3 year period. If this keeps up, then there's no point for me in using this phone any longer, cuz i lived my android phones through root and customizations, and I'll get really bored if my phone can't get any of it. i thought HMD was kind enough, but they favor other higher end devices instead
GCam spared some of its worth at least, but it's only a matter of time before this device will be forgotten the way HMD forgot their purpose who broke the trust of a lot of Nokia fans.
The Nokia 6.1 might be my next phone, but after HMD's poor performance of "service" I'm having doubts now of me not ever creating custom roms for this.
If you have any opinions or if i said something wrong feel free to leave a reply below...

I've got a Nokia 6.1 and it is the best phone I've had. I enjoy using it on latest Android one pie with root. 64gb internal storage, 4gb ram :good: , I'm very happy with it
I recommend the stock rom over GSI ROMs but that's my personal preference.
Here is a list of a/b treble gsi's for Nokia 6.1
http://bit.ly/2AzgxDY

Ive been trying to unlock the bootloader, im new in this but i have no idea that nokia 5 gime so many troubles. certantly its so sad.

Czeta13 said:
Ive been trying to unlock the bootloader, im new in this but i have no idea that nokia 5 gime so many troubles. certantly its so sad.
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You need cash. Visit techmesto website.

It's business. HMD wants you to buy a new phone.
On the other hand, it was never popular on XDA. It's on the low-end side that was a little bit more expensive than any other phone with the same specs. There was no reason to buy it in the first place.