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The Tab Pro 10.1 has tons of development activity. Tab S 10.5 not so much (i.e., practically none as far as roms). Just private messaged the top Developers in the Tab Pro forum asking if their work there can be ported to the Tab S. Hardware other than the screen is very similar. Seems like it should be doable (although I'm not a developer and there may be complications of which I am unaware).
Anyway, flare fired, emergency beacon activated. Let's hope we can get some port love here and get a solid rom or two going.
** They may need some guinea pigs to test things out. But these are extremely experienced recognized Devs and you should take some comfort in that.
UPDATE: All development for the 10.1 is for the SM-T520 which is the Exynos 5 wifi model. Should be no issues there.
TAB PRO 10.1:
Chipset Exynos 5 Octa 5420
CPU Quad-core 1.9 GHz Cortex-A15 & quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A7
GPU Mali-T628 MP6
TAB S 10.5:
Chipset Exynos 5 Octa 5420
CPU Quad-core 1.9 GHz Cortex-A15 & quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A7
GPU Mali-T628 MP6
Identical.
UPDATE:
Good news folks! Our little project here has resulted in a working, smooth and pretty dammed fast rom for the 10.5 (US Version). It is still in Beta but based upon my experience, everything seems to be working.
Special appreciation to @Shaheer who came here from the 10.1 Pro Forums and without the benefit of his own device built a working rom for us. My thanks also go out to all the smart people who teamed with him to make it happen.
Go give it a flash. It only gets better from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/sm-wip-rom-t2832360
** Update: Have just heard from @mrwookie6379 in the Tab Pro 10.1 forums. He has also expressed interest in developing for us. Cool.
There is a big difference between tab pro and tab s.
Maybe I'm wrong but the development is only on snapdragon version of the tab pro...
Orphee said:
There is a big difference between tab pro and tab s.
Maybe I'm wrong but the development is only on snapdragon version of the tab pro...
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All development for the 10.1 is for the SM-T520 which is the Exynos 5 wifi model. Should be no issues there.
TAB PRO 10.1:
Chipset Exynos 5 Octa 5420
CPU Quad-core 1.9 GHz Cortex-A15 & quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A7
GPU Mali-T628 MP6
TAB S 10.5:
Chipset Exynos 5 Octa 5420
CPU Quad-core 1.9 GHz Cortex-A15 & quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A7
GPU Mali-T628 MP6
Identical.
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If any of these devs ported CyanogenMod or aosp, I would love to take a look at their device directory. I am getting closer with my port but running into a crash with surfaceflinger and the mali driver.
My wife would be happy if I got this working so I could stop obsessing.
eousphoros said:
If any of these devs ported CyanogenMod or aosp, I would love to take a look at their device directory. I am getting closer with my port but running into a crash with surfaceflinger and the mali driver.
My wife would be happy if I got this working so I could stop obsessing.
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i have the 10.1 and have been considering the S and so looking around here to make my decision. i will say that the Exynos component is probably going to prevent us from every seeing CM11 becase they dont develeop for it. also there is very little dev for the 10.1 and what little there is sees very little updates and most roms seem to be abandoned.
none of the 10.1 to date have developed far enough to make me want to install them yet.
you can look here to see them and then check OP for last update and you will see what i mean
Ah the mondrianwifi, I took a look at that one initially but unfortunately it had enough subtle differences it wasn't much use.
Edit: So just did some digging, still can't find any ports of cyanogenmod to 10.1 (SM-T520). Ill spend a little bit more time digging but as far as I can tell the closest port has been the exynos 5410 samsung galaxy s4 which is what I forked my current port.
When I said there was no development on the Tab Pro, I meant the T520 of course, as the T525 is snapdragon...
It seems I was right, I didn't see any cm11 work for the T520.
Orphee said:
When I said there was no development on the Tab Pro, I meant the T520 of course, as the T525 is snapdragon...
It seems I was right, I didn't see any cm11 work for the T520.
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By "development" are you referring only to CM? That's a pretty narrow definition of development. And of course no CM for Exynos but lots of TW based roms as you can see from the Tab Pro forum.
CM is awesome and clean and light and fast but you also give up the entire TW ecosystem including multiwindow which is a big price to pay for a little more speed.
Yes TW can go to the junk, CM is the best thing we could have on our tablets.
I consider TW based Rom more as tweaks / tuning than real development.
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Yes TW can go to the junk, CM is the best thing we could have on our tablets.
I consider TW based Rom more as tweaks / tuning than real development.
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Well using that argument, CM is just tweaked Android.
Yes of course ...........
Well so far no responses to my private messages from the developers at Tab Pro forum. Next step will be to post in the actual threads and ask nicely for help. These guys probably get a million PMs so I'm not surprised not to hear a response.
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Well using that argument, CM is just tweaked Android.
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And android is just tweaked linux. Though the difference in porting AOSP/CM to this device versus modifying the current rom is like the difference between building a model rocket from a kit and launching a shuttle into orbit.
Really anyone who knows how to extract/build a system.img can build a rom for this device in under an hour. Super simple. Though thats not what I am personally interested in accomplishing. There is way too much stuff in the samsung rom that triggers my paranoia, up to and including the clause in the license that says something along the lines of any data we collect can be used to evaluate your eligibilty for hiring at samsung.
I am getting AOSP/CM on here or this tablet is going up for sale. If anyone is interested in helping out I have a couple github repos up and making progress on a daily basis.
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And android is just tweaked linux. Though the difference in porting AOSP/CM to this device versus modifying the current rom is like the difference between building a model rocket from a kit and launching a shuttle into orbit.
Really anyone who knows how to extract/build a system.img can build a rom for this device in under an hour. Super simple. Though thats not what I am personally interested in accomplishing. There is way too much stuff in the samsung rom that triggers my paranoia, up to and including the clause in the license that says something along the lines of any data we collect can be used to evaluate your eligibilty for hiring at samsung.
I am getting AOSP/CM on here or this tablet is going up for sale. If anyone is interested in helping out I have a couple github repos up and making progress on a daily basis.
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Contact UpInTheAir. He knows a lot about this stuff.
eousphoros said:
And android is just tweaked linux. Though the difference in porting AOSP/CM to this device versus modifying the current rom is like the difference between building a model rocket from a kit and launching a shuttle into orbit.
Really anyone who knows how to extract/build a system.img can build a rom for this device in under an hour. Super simple. Though thats not what I am personally interested in accomplishing. There is way too much stuff in the samsung rom that triggers my paranoia, up to and including the clause in the license that says something along the lines of any data we collect can be used to evaluate your eligibilty for hiring at samsung.
I am getting AOSP/CM on here or this tablet is going up for sale. If anyone is interested in helping out I have a couple github repos up and making progress on a daily basis.
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I know slim had been built for the 5410... maybe poking about their Gerrit may help?
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Poser said:
I know slim had been built for the 5410... maybe poking about their Gerrit may help?
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Unfortunately the 5410 doesn't use the mali gpu which is where I am currently getting a crash. I just imported a bunch of code from the arndale_octa (Raspberry pi like board that uses the 5420 SOC) and waiting for my build to finish.
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Unfortunately the 5410 doesn't use the mali gpu which is where I am currently getting a crash. I just imported a bunch of code from the arndale_octa (Raspberry pi like board that uses the 5420 SOC) and waiting for my build to finish.
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Power VR...totally forgot. Does anything other than 5420 and arndale use the T628?
You think the crash is at the 3D render...or the handoff back to the a15 display controller?
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Poser said:
I know slim had been built for the 5410... maybe poking about their Gerrit may help?
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Poser said:
Power VR...totally forgot. Does anything other than 5420 and arndale use the T628?
You think the crash is at the 3D render...or the handoff back to the a15 display controller?
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5420, 5422, and the 5800 use the T628.
As for the crash it looks like its happening somewhere between hwcomposer, gralloc, libEGL, and libGLES_mali. I put that fork on pause while I try take a look at the arndale_octa mali code.
eousphoros said:
And android is just tweaked linux. Though the difference in porting AOSP/CM to this device versus modifying the current rom is like the difference between building a model rocket from a kit and launching a shuttle into orbit.
Really anyone who knows how to extract/build a system.img can build a rom for this device in under an hour. Super simple. Though thats not what I am personally interested in accomplishing. There is way too much stuff in the samsung rom that triggers my paranoia, up to and including the clause in the license that says something along the lines of any data we collect can be used to evaluate your eligibilty for hiring at samsung.
I am getting AOSP/CM on here or this tablet is going up for sale. If anyone is interested in helping out I have a couple github repos up and making progress on a daily basis.
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Thank you, I taught it was useless to argue with mitchellvi but you explained it very well.
I couldn't do as good as you did.
Thank you a lot
Orphee said:
Thank you, I taught it was useless to argue with mitchellvi but you explained it very well.
I couldn't do as good as you did.
Thank you a lot
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Lol, argue with me about what, that only CM development is real development? The entire Development section of any Samsung forum is dedicated to non-CM based roms and represents 95% of all development for that device - and simple they're not.
The purpose of this thread is to draw rom development to the Tab S 10.5. Denigrating TW developers and comparing their efforts to model rocketry doesn't help. As far as CM being the space shuttle, that ship is already built and on the pad, you're just looking for the launch codes.
I just ordered the 510 from a German Ebay reseller to get a jump on Android ARMv8 64-bit optimization. The specs aren't terribly important since it's going to spend its life tethered to my PC on my desk. I think as a budget Android device, the Moto G is a much better choice, but being the first 64-bit device available, I had to buy it. Hopefully some of the clever people on XDA can figure out how to root it and get Android L running in 64-bit mode before HTC gets around to doing it.
Wheres the development?
bitbank said:
I just ordered the 510 from a German Ebay reseller to get a jump on Android ARMv8 64-bit optimization. The specs aren't terribly important since it's going to spend its life tethered to my PC on my desk. I think as a budget Android device, the Moto G is a much better choice, but being the first 64-bit device available, I had to buy it. Hopefully some of the clever people on XDA can figure out how to root it and get Android L running in 64-bit mode before HTC gets around to doing it.
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I have seen no development for the 64bit model what so ever
There is a kernal available to download that allows root access. The thread is clearly headed 64 bit root. And of course it is easy enough to unlock the boot loader. All we need now is a recovery so roms can be flashed
Beshnazzle said:
I have seen no development for the 64bit model what so ever
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There is most definitely a user or two working on the 64TWRP image. Use this as a learning experience and try building yourself. Google is your friend.
Beshnazzle said:
I have seen no development for the 64bit model what so ever
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No worries. I needed to get going on ARMv8 development, so I got a Nexus 9 and iPad mini 2. At this point, the HTC 510 working in 64-bit mode will just be to satisfy my curiosity about how slow the QC410 is compared to the Apple A7 and NVidia K1 Denver.
64Bit TWRP Recovery
dipspit said:
There is most definitely a user or two working on the 64TWRP image. Use this as a learning experience and try building yourself. Google is your friend.
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I am very young so i probaly wouldnt be very good at creating a TWRP recovery.img also have no idea where to start or what i need to get started..
normally these days you can never get a straight answer
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bitbank said:
No worries. I needed to get going on ARMv8 development, so I got a Nexus 9 and iPad mini 2. At this point, the HTC 510 working in 64-bit mode will just be to satisfy my curiosity about how slow the QC410 is compared to the Apple A7 and NVidia K1 Denver.
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So you arent developing a TWRP image for the 64 Bit, this is honestly ridiculous its been so long and only 32bit has a recovery why wont anyone make a recovery for the 64bit right now iwish i had the 32 bit
It's been almost 4 months since 2nd generation released. But there's no development. We don't even have a custom recovery. Please rise this device like first generation guys!
nhmanas said:
It's been almost 4 months since 2nd generation released. But there's no development. We don't even have a custom recovery. Please rise this device like first generation guys!
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4 months?
abinsur279 said:
4 months?
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It's been four months in Turkey (may 2015)
nhmanas said:
It's been four months in Turkey (may 2015)
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Oh, In India it was released a few weeks ago.
I thought that lava pixel is released in india?
Seed repository is already uploaded to AOSP (only checked kernel though) so that should be a signal to start development. I'd do it myself but don't have a device yet as I just bought a Mi4i and still have to save enough for a G1.
I'm interested, too. May aim is to port FirefoxOS for this device, but I think that's a long way?! I've never done this before (except building some linux for my Treo650 long time ago...), so I'm quite new to all the android stuff. Is there somewhere a good resource to get started porting a custom android or something similar to a device like the android one?
zefanjas said:
I'm interested, too. May aim is to port FirefoxOS for this device, but I think that's a long way?! I've never done this before (except building some linux for my Treo650 long time ago...), so I'm quite new to all the android stuff. Is there somewhere a good resource to get started porting a custom android or something similar to a device like the android one?
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Yu Yuphoria has similar specs. Here's the device tree: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_yu_lettuce
I think one can jumpstart from there. I'd like to contribute to the development, as soon as I get my hands on this device.
Infinix Hot 2 has been released too...looking for developers
There is still no android development for lava pixel v1..its also a android one device...with far better specs..why no development for it??(lava pixel v1) in india
sourav4ganguly said:
There is still no android development for lava pixel v1..its also a android one device...with far better specs..why no development for it??(lava pixel v1) in india
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Lava claims that the Pixel V1 is built using "Google certified hardware". In this case, that includes the rather aged quad-core 1.3GHz MediaTek MT6582 SoC with integrated Mali-400 MP2 graphics.
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Different Hardware as the other "One's", additionally most Developers stop reading after "Mediatek".
This device seems to be an "India only" thing...uninteresting for the rest.
Where 64 bit OS?
Why is the Snapdragon 410 64 bit processor, 32-bit Android OS?
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Different Hardware as the other "One's", additionally most Developers stop reading after "Mediatek".
This device seems to be an "India only" thing...uninteresting for the rest.
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So what karbonn sparkle v1,canvas a1 and micromax a1 was also only for india....still they have so much development still now....den y not for pixel v1?if it has a moderate development den it would be the best low budget smartphone...than the other android one phns
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Bobcus Leper said:
On reading up in the Galaxy Nexus forums, I saw that the TI-OMAP 4 was not supported in AOSP Lollipop and above. Is this why our OMAP phones perform poorly on ART based ROMs, while ROMs using the dalvik compiler are smoother? In AOSP Nougat, the Snapdragon 800 and 801 chips using the Adreno 330 GPU are no longer supported as well. I guess my question is if it will it be possible to reverse engineer OMAP-4 drivers for Nougat that can support the new surface view texture renderer?
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I MIGHT be possible to support it, but would take a bit of work, offloading that stuff to the CPU (which is just what we need, right?) and all of which is above my skill level.
Bobcus Leper said:
On reading up in the Galaxy Nexus forums, I saw that the TI-OMAP 4 was not supported in AOSP Lollipop and above. Is this why our OMAP phones perform poorly on ART based ROMs, while ROMs using the dalvik compiler are smoother?
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The performance problems are probably a mix of slowish eMMC (have to load the precompiled ART files, and they're not exactly tiny), lack of main memory (ART has a bigger memory footprint), and an unsuitable CPU that was outdated when the phone was built, nevermind nowadays. The latter two are what seem to really kill us in CM13; if we're not stuck reclaiming memory, we're saturating the CPU : \
Having Motorola stroll in and develop some up-to-date, optimized drivers sure would be cool, though...hardware is hardware, but good firmware can make a lot out of little.
Nougat is apparently taking a step back and re-introducing JIT execution...so if our resident maintainer does somehow pull off yet another miracle and we get CM14 on here, I'd expect less I/O and memory pressure at the very least. The stock partitions would become viable again too, what with /data/ not being clogged by ART precompiles, and being able to run off them might also offer a (small) performance increase. /system/ is gonna be a tight fit, though...
But using drivers built in two previous, different eras of Android, most of which were for another device...seems like it's gonna take some serious work.
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Galaxy Nexus has Nougat!
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Nougat build is up. No, I have not died, and neither has the Galaxy Nexus.
Decided to take an extra couple days to get this build stable rather than rushing out something that boots and does nothing else, sorry for the delay.
I can't verify the full functionality of the RIL since I don't have a SIM in my GNex these days, so let me know if there's any issues with that.
Everything else should be working well though.
No idea what to do for GApps at this time. I haven't tried them yet.
Download: aosp_n_tuna_2016-08-27.zip
As usual this was a team effort. @Ziyan helped, and @Hashcode (who I thought had died) helped as well.
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Last time i talked with i Dev about Andoid 7 on the Droid 4, i was told that it would not be possible because of SELinux. But that Info is almost a year old. Maybe someone has more up to date information about this.
1f5 said:
Last time i talked with i Dev about Andoid 7 on the Droid 4, i was told that it would not be possible because of SELinux. But that Info is almost a year old. Maybe someone has more up to date information about this.
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Thanks! Maybe we should ask @stargo about it. Although, I know stargo likes to surprise people with a new Android version.
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Really hoping this old beast will get CM14 due to the coding magic of stargo or some other guys out there.
I recently aquired a completely new Droid 4 from a Verizon reseller in mint condition. Now I never want to live without a slider again!
It is a bit slow, gets hot sometimes and becomes pretty much unuseable with Google Play installed, but who needs that stuff anyways.
Can keep me warm in winter and after replacing stock apps with Naked Browser and Simple Music Player it runs well and fast.
Please don't let this slider die. The only alternative to this device is the Photon Q and this needs to be soldered due to the missing SIM slot.
Bro i think it will have a cm14 for the droid 4
Bro, there say that it is official for the droid 4 to get cm14 check on gammerson .com
Some new info from JooJooBee666.
u.b.o.o.t said:
Hi folks! I had some spare time to setup CM13 build tool chain and - maybe too late for @Septfox - I made a custom kernel with LMK accounting for swap memory, i.e. LMK does only consider memory pages as free which won't require swapping, now. In order to not spam this thread anymore with LMK issues and memory tuning, I created a new thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-4/development/wip-custom-kernel-lowmemorykiller-t3470411
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JooJooBee666--
This is cool. I'll test these out here as well. If things look good I'll see about getting LMK changes added to the cm13 kernel and upcoming cm14 kernels (work just began).:good:
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CM14 confirmed?:fingers-crossed::good:
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JooJooBee666 --
Not really confirmed (as in no promises it will ever be fully functional as of yet). Just started working on getting things compiling. After that, it's along ways a way from anything usable as there are some new hurdles to overcome thanks to additional lock-downs on SE Linux. So yeah, :fingers-crossed: is right.
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Hmm... today I watched.. ETA prime's YouTube vid... about Pine Phone
It has 4 opensource operating systems... ( currently in beta? )
But most interesting is the fact, is that specs are about the same as the Remix Mini
That's makes me think... could we get these OS to run on the Remix mini?
Are there people like me? ... still interested in a Remix mini (possible upgrade pad)
Mine box is still running 24\7... but android 5.1 is getting old
-Normale things...like buying stuff online is getting harder as its a no longer supported platform version
Thoughts? opinions?
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Hmm... today I watched.. ETA prime's YouTube vid... about Pine Phone
It has 4 opensource operating systems... ( currently in beta? )
But most interesting is the fact, is that specs are about the same as the Remix Mini
That's makes me think... could we get these OS to run on the Remix mini?
Are there people like me? ... still interested in a Remix mini (possible upgrade pad)
Mine box is still running 24\7... but android 5.1 is getting old
-Normale things...like buying stuff online is getting harder as its a no longer supported platform version
Thoughts? opinions?
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I am so interested in this, but I am not a dev and have no idea what goes into doing this type of work.
I've had my Remix for a for a few years now and just want to update because of the no longer supported platform issue.
Unfortunately I would be the wrong person the ask for help with this...
Yes! Yes! Yes! This is a great idea! I have so many things is like to use my remix mini for, but the system is pretty old. I can't even root mine ...
Sometimes I think about trying to learn to develop custom ROMs... I wish I wasn't so lazy.
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Hmm... today I watched.. ETA prime's YouTube vid... about Pine Phone
It has 4 opensource operating systems... ( currently in beta? )
But most interesting is the fact, is that specs are about the same as the Remix Mini
That's makes me think... could we get these OS to run on the Remix mini?
Are there people like me? ... still interested in a Remix mini (possible upgrade pad)
Mine box is still running 24\7... but android 5.1 is getting old
-Normale things...like buying stuff online is getting harder as its a no longer supported platform version
Thoughts? opinions?
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I'd very welcome any sort of updates about the device.
I'm kind of curious, what do you guys use this device for nowadays?