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Edit 1:So as the tittle said, i was thinking of reverting back to 4.4...When i bought the phone , it was already on 5.0.2 and now i'm on 6.0.1 (.291 version)...As far as i'm concerned, no improvements have been done on camera from 5.0.2 to 6.0.1 (also, I face a bug and the last 1-2 seconds of the videos i record are frozen, and no, it's not my sd card's problem as i tried storing at my phone's storage)
The question is: Is stock camera on 4.4 better than 6.0.1?
Edit2 : I flashed 4.4 on my phone. Yes, the bug is real on 6.0.1...camera on 4.4 is almost 2 or 3 times better than 6.0.1.
Auto focus on 4.4 camera while video recording is just amazing guys...
Edit3: Flashed 6.0.1 again. The bug i described on Edit 1 dissapeared(!)
As for the video recording, on 4.4 autofocus worked automatically and really, really fast! When I'm on 6.0.1 I MUST use the camera button so as to make it work fast just like 4.4 did automatically. Hope this helps other users!
Yes 4.4 is absolutely better. I wrote thread in general section, my reasons why 4.4 is better.
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Yes 4.4 is absolutely better! In every aspects.
i switched back also...loving this phone again...everything works 10x better... i'm on .77 build of kitkat ..the final one i believe
duke_dreadmoore said:
Yes 4.4 is absolutely better. I wrote thread in general section, my reasons why 4.4 is better.
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Yes 4.4 is absolutely better! In every aspects.
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Camera and video shooting at 4.4 was 10 times better than on 6.0.1. BUT i detected certain bugs (snapchat lagging, i guess it's not well optimized for 'old' android versions)
But video shooting is REALLY bad at 6.0.1 guys...is there any way to use 4.4 camera app on 6.0.1? Autofocus needs almost 15 seconds to change focus and i still haven't found how to touch focus on Sony devices while video shooting! I would really appreciate some help on these things!
Fictional Reality said:
i switched back also...loving this phone again...everything works 10x better... i'm on .77 build of kitkat ..the final one i believe
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Sound on speakers is better at 6.0.1 but i think sound at headphones work better on 4.4....
I'm so confused....if only i could use Sony's 4.4 Camera app on 6.0.1! That would be great!
Can someone post a link to flashable zip with root and recovery of .77 build?
There is 1 link on the forum but from MEGA and I can't fully download it :/ Some others mirrors maybe?
kwstas 13 said:
Camera and video shooting at 4.4 was 10 times better than on 6.0.1. BUT i detected certain bugs (snapchat lagging, i guess it's not well optimized for 'old' android versions)
But video shooting is REALLY bad at 6.0.1 guys...is there any way to use 4.4 camera app on 6.0.1? Autofocus needs almost 15 seconds to change focus and i still haven't found how to touch focus on Sony devices while video shooting! I would really appreciate some help on these things!
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Ever heard of Cyberian camera? I am on latest 6.0.1 and have flashed that camera mod, and I can tell you pictures and video are a blast,
low light photography at its best, and also hdr for 4k, and lots of improvements, you just need root and latest version of sony rom (.291)
Here is link to mentioned mod: http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony-themes-apps/mod-cyberian-camera-t3267271
HANNNI said:
Can someone post a link to flashable zip with root and recovery of .77 build?
There is 1 link on the forum but from MEGA and I can't fully download it :/ Some others mirrors maybe?
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You'll need to ftf back to 4.4 if you are on 5.1 or 6.1....then you can flash recovery and then flash whatever you want...use flashtool to ftf back to stock on 4.4
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Ever heard of Cyberian camera? I am on latest 6.0.1 and have flashed that camera mod, and I can tell you pictures and video are a blast,
low light photography at its best, and also hdr for 4k, and lots of improvements, you just need root and latest version of sony rom (.291)
Here is link to mentioned mod: http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony-themes-apps/mod-cyberian-camera-t3267271
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Ahh damn! I just flashed 4.4 again... Again 10 times better photos and 5x faster autofocus on video than 6.0.1!
Thanks for your time lad!
Edit: Is 120fps REAL?! I'd really want to see a video from you and one photo outdoors late night without lights if possible! If that is easy for you then I'd be really happy!
kwstas 13 said:
Ahh damn! I just flashed 4.4 again... Again 10 times better photos and 5x faster autofocus on video than 6.0.1!
Thanks for your time lad!
Edit: Is 120fps REAL?! I'd really want to see a video from you and one photo outdoors late night without lights if possible! If that is easy for you then I'd be really happy!
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Here, i have 1 120fps video and 1 pitch dark garden photo, and last 1 late night room picture: https://1drv.ms/a/s!AmQ4iMj5YT9k7Qs9-0-l130qDys3
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Here, i have 1 120fps video and 1 pitch dark garden photo, and last 1 late night room picture: https://1drv.ms/a/s!AmQ4iMj5YT9k7Qs9-0-l130qDys3
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Pretty cool photo for low light! The video quality on 120fps ain't that good i think, do you? It's the same quality like timeshift video!
Thanks for your time once again.
kwstas 13 said:
Pretty cool photo for low light! The video quality on 120fps ain't that good i think, do you? It's the same quality like timeshift video!
Thanks for your time once again.
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my bad, that was timeshift video from before cyberian
you need to count in that this is reduced quality due to automatic downgrade when uploading to onedrive
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my bad, that was timeshift video from before cyberian
you need to count in that this is reduced quality due to automatic downgrade when uploading to onedrive
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Sure, the photos were still very good...But i feel like i've started loving 4.4. Music on headphones is reallt,really better!
kwstas 13 said:
Sure, the photos were still very good...But i feel like i've started loving 4.4. Music on headphones is reallt,really better!
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I am using this for sound: http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...dmod-project-desire-feel-dream-sound-t3130504
Makes it sound million times better.
Do you perhaps have rooted version of 4.4? After all your talk I am eager to try it out
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I am using this for sound: http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...dmod-project-desire-feel-dream-sound-t3130504
Makes it sound million times better.
Do you perhaps have rooted version of 4.4? After all your talk I am eager to try it out
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I haven't rooted 4.4, i don't like rooting and experimenting wirh it since everything rolls just perfect.You should really give a try, specially for the camera... Video recording focuses 10 times (for real 10 times) faster than 6.0.1 (both stock unrooted without mods), and camera quality is really better!
Also, booting takes about 18 seconds only on 4.4...
If you're using Snapchat, it will lag ( i'm not using heavily, only once a day, so it's not a problem for me), but i'm not using Facebook so I don't know whether it lags or not, but i guess it will work flawlessly. Be sure to keep a nandroid backup before checking 4.4 out!
Let me know if you have any other questions I can answer before you jump on 4.4.
For me the best ROM has been the Concept ROM. It has built-in Doze, nearly as stock as AOSP, battery life is great and it is really stable, fast. Less apps, better ROM. KitKat is great in performance but as it doesn't have Doze, it gives me less battery life cause I don't like to use Stamina mode whatsoever. I love KitKat too, but I hate KitKat's notification panel and settings icons. Concept provides you the most modern looking and one of the most stable and lightweight ROMs out there. As for the camera I use Cyberian Camera, despite it is not optimized for Concept, it is stable and better than the stock. Concept uses stock framework (same as 6.0.1) and haven't had any issues with it, also low-light processing is great!
TL; DR : Try Concept too!
marshalpear said:
For me the best ROM has been the Concept ROM. It has built-in Doze, nearly as stock as AOSP, battery life is great and it is really stable, fast. Less apps, better ROM. KitKat is great in performance but as it doesn't have Doze, it gives me less battery life cause I don't like to use Stamina mode whatsoever. I love KitKat too, but I hate KitKat's notification panel and settings icons. Concept provides you the most modern looking and one of the most stable and lightweight ROMs out there. As for the camera I use Cyberian Camera, despite it is not optimized for Concept, it is stable and better than the stock. Concept uses stock framework (same as 6.0.1) and haven't had any issues with it, also low-light processing is great!
TL; DR : Try Concept too!
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I would, but like I said i don't like to root and install recovery, since i'm still on warranty (will be until December 2017) and since stock roms work perfect for me (except video recording on 6.0.1. .291). Thanks for your reply though.
Edit: I just saw that this ROM does need only ftf file, is this rom the one you're talking about? ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/sonys-android-concept-marshmallow-t3229536)
kwstas 13 said:
I would, but like I said i don't like to root and install recovery, since i'm still on warranty (will be until December 2017) and since stock roms work perfect for me (except video recording on 6.0.1. .291). Thanks for your reply though.
Edit: I just saw that this ROM does need only ftf file, is this rom the one you're talking about? ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/sonys-android-concept-marshmallow-t3229536)
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Yes, it is the one I'm talking about! You can find the latest (still you'll need to update it) FTF here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/list-stock-firmwares-d5803-d5833-t2906706
You'll need to update it a lot if you download from the link you added.
marshalpear said:
Yes, it is the one I'm talking about! You can find the latest (still you'll need to update it) FTF here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/list-stock-firmwares-d5803-d5833-t2906706
You'll need to update it a lot if you download from the link you added.
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Update it OTA?
kwstas 13 said:
I haven't rooted 4.4, i don't like rooting and experimenting wirh it since everything rolls just perfect.You should really give a try, specially for the camera... Video recording focuses 10 times (for real 10 times) faster than 6.0.1 (both stock unrooted without mods), and camera quality is really better!
Also, booting takes about 18 seconds only on 4.4...
If you're using Snapchat, it will lag ( i'm not using heavily, only once a day, so it's not a problem for me), but i'm not using Facebook so I don't know whether it lags or not, but i guess it will work flawlessly. Be sure to keep a nandroid backup before checking 4.4 out!
Let me know if you have any other questions I can answer before you jump on 4.4.
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I tried 4.4, for the first two days i was clean as it gets, but the battery lasted only 3.5h of sot, camera on the other hand was just okej, colours were a bit washed out (comparing to cyberian on MM), and view finder was laggy (cyberian has smooth viewfinder-best thing for me). I also tried video recording, and it was also not that special, focusing speed was the same as it was on cyberian. So after rooting and finally deleting all the bloatware (can't stand it) I realized 4.4 was not for me. So I restored my latest backup of MM and I can tell you I'm glad i tried 4.4 because it made me appreciate MM and my cyberian camera. Btw I am on MxRom fyi.
Just wanted to say this, enjoy and cheers
Man, honestly I love this phone but boy is the camera a true POS. Really it is, if there is not perfect sunlight there's a ton of noise, and if there's a tiny bit of movement, there's a ton a blur. I honestly feel like I'm using my Nexus 5 all over again. Need to find a remedy. Pictures by no means need to be perfect but come on. And yes I've tried other camera app with manual settings, still crappy
Really? Upload some images. Try using Open Camera or Manual Camera.
Try to use camera MX the best third party camera app so far
i agree , the camera for me is bad .
i will try to use camera MX
Same here mate , got same problem. On 6 marshmallow firmware the camera is like a toy camera . I rooted customer recovery ,flash custom ROM ,all my issue disappeared, once you flash the 7.1.1 fix the issue , the 7.1.1. include radio.img boot.img and firmware .IMG . This firmware .IMG contains drivers for screen , camera and sound and much more . My touch latency has been improved so much . Before I can't use Google keyboard to tipe or o have to disable the psuh button preview . Crazy , just flash 7
Same here. Coming from iOS family my expectations were low but this is below that. One thing helped a bit and it was disable auto HDR. Give a try.
Yeah, the camera is pretty bad. MUCH worse than on my iPhone 7 Plus. Kinda disappointed.
J4DedPrez said:
Man, honestly I love this phone but boy is the camera a true POS. Really it is, if there is not perfect sunlight there's a ton of noise, and if there's a tiny bit of movement, there's a ton a blur. I honestly feel like I'm using my Nexus 5 all over again. Need to find a remedy. Pictures by no means need to be perfect but come on. And yes I've tried other camera app with manual settings, still crappy
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Then give that phone to me!
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Michalko5896 said:
Yeah, the camera is pretty bad. MUCH worse than on my iPhone 7 Plus. Kinda disappointed.
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Ya it's rough, my 7plus was phenomenal. Even my GS7Edge is not as good as the 7plus.
Aburel18 said:
Same here mate , got same problem. On 6 marshmallow firmware the camera is like a toy camera . I rooted customer recovery ,flash custom ROM ,all my issue disappeared, once you flash the 7.1.1 fix the issue , the 7.1.1. include radio.img boot.img and firmware .IMG . This firmware .IMG contains drivers for screen , camera and sound and much more . My touch latency has been improved so much . Before I can't use Google keyboard to tipe or o have to disable the psuh button preview . Crazy , just flash 7
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I've been on 7 and still the same. just a lot of noise in lower lighting, outside in sub gives good shots, but you really have to try for a good shot. iPhone 7plus point and shoot literally anywhere, miss the camera on 7plus
Yes the camera is not the best part of this devise but I found it good enough on HQ mode....
J4DedPrez said:
Ya it's rough, my 7plus was phenomenal. Even my GS7Edge is not as good as the 7plus.
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Yea, I also liked iPhone 7 Plus camera better than my S7 Edge. iPhone was making much sharper photos.
Aburel18 said:
Same here mate , got same problem. On 6 marshmallow firmware the camera is like a toy camera . I rooted customer recovery ,flash custom ROM ,all my issue disappeared, once you flash the 7.1.1 fix the issue , the 7.1.1. include radio.img boot.img and firmware .IMG . This firmware .IMG contains drivers for screen , camera and sound and much more . My touch latency has been improved so much . Before I can't use Google keyboard to tipe or o have to disable the psuh button preview . Crazy , just flash 7
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what is the custom rom you flashed ?
Panorama
Panorama stitching is horrible as well!
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Panorama stitching is horrible as well!
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I've always found panorama stitching to be horrible on Androids. Something about the way iPhones handle them is sooooo much better.
Hi everyone
Since android's version of Android PIE, is slowling rolling out to Mate 10 Pro's, has anyone yet made or found, a review of the changes, specifically for the Mate 10 Pro?
Sure, there's a couple of reviews & Youtube videos of the Beta version and of EMUI 9, but I'm looking specifically for the official PIE update on the Mate 10 Pro.
Anyone found a review yet?
Not really
I'm using it for a week now. It looks better. Battery life was bad over the first 2 days after the update but it's better now ( slightly better than Oreo). Some stutter is happening here and there but not too much. Free ram seems to get lower ,so apparently using more ram. Camera is much better.
Can you specify in what way the camera got better ? picture quality ? video quality ? night mode ? exposure ?
I haven't gotten an update since April last year, so I got EMUI 9 and all the intermediate changes all at once. Camera is insanely better, it doesn't overexpose at all like it used to, back in EMUI 8 the camera overexposed everything all the time. I got 960fps slowmo from only having 240fps one. I got hand-held night shot that works exactly like the P20 Pro, works wonders. The interface is changed I have to get used to that, it's not bad. I can also turn off Master AI now, couldn't do that before...
Hi
It seems my phone phone converted to ww by seller
The firmware is so clean and i like it but i don't see any sign of ota update or Asus apps new versions in play store
I really don't care about Android updates the only thing i want is new version of Asus pixelmaster camera how can i get the latest?
Thanks
You can get the latest update here https://forum.xda-developers.com/rog-phone-2/how-to/rom-update-wwzs660kl16-0622-1907-33-t3968495
it updates the camera to 6.2.6
That said, the camera software is horrible and you shouldn't use it anyways.
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You can get the latest update here https://forum.xda-developers.com/rog-phone-2/how-to/rom-update-wwzs660kl16-0622-1907-33-t3968495
it updates the camera to 6.2.6
That said, the camera software is horrible and you shouldn't use it anyways.
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I've actually been pretty impressed with the camera coming from a pixel 3A. It takes pictures instantly just like the pixel. Why do you think Asus camera sticks? Is there some better camera app you'd recommend?
xxBrun0xx said:
I've actually been pretty impressed with the camera coming from a pixel 3A. It takes pictures instantly just like the pixel. Why do you think Asus camera sticks? Is there some better camera app you'd recommend?
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Sure, it is fast, but the quality is horrid.
Gcam provides SIGNIFICANTLY better results.
Here's a couple comparisons between gcam and asus software
Yes you are right but pixelmaster has a pro mode that let you to keep shutter open up to 32 sec
And also pro mode keep all setting that you changed in memory
Btw i don't want to go all through flash thing besides the firmware is working pretty stable and nice except camera if there is an apk that i can install directly i will be nice
sadeghsep said:
Yes you are right but pixelmaster has a pro mode that let you to keep shutter open up to 32 sec
And also pro mode keep all setting that you changed in memory
Btw i don't want to go all through flash thing besides the firmware is working pretty stable and nice except camera if there is an apk that i can install directly i will be nice
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Stock image processing is extremely bad
My old mate 10 gaves me way better low light images
Asus pixelmaster is sharper to my eyes gcam only has some extra software processing that's why night mode looks better in gcam
Besides I've never seen a pro mode in another apps like Asus pixelmaster we have full control like a DSLR camera it has even iso 25 actually we can take a photo of sky with this app
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Sure, it is fast, but the quality is horrid.
Gcam provides SIGNIFICANTLY better results.
Here's a couple comparisons between gcam and asus software
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Must be my eyes but the ROG low light pics look better since it brightens (allows more light by staying open longer?) the picture which is what I want when taken pics in the dark.
Huawei Mate 20X with auto macro mode on
ROG2 under photo mode
I still couldn't find any higher version of pixelmaster than myself , if anyone can send an apk app of latest version it would be nice i don't want to touch my phone root or flash because it just works fine and fast
Thanks
OIS is a really annoying problem on emui 9.1
I know that the last version of emui is the best in term of battery life and performance. BUT for those who come back to 8 for the OIS problem: is really true?
I try gcam mod to take videos but I really don't know if it's working. I always see tremble in videos.