Hello there,
Since the old days of my first android phone the Galaxy fit, I used to hard reset my phone after every major update. It keeps my phone bug free and snappy.
Currently my phone Galaxy A70 and Tab S8 receive updates on monthly basis. Unfortunately I keep on doing the same old habit of hard resetting them after every update which means I do it every month or two.
My question us how bad can this affect my device and why?
Thanks
Do you mean like force shut down the phone and then power it on? You only need to wipe cache data on newer phones that usually fixes issues.
Jake.S said:
Do you mean like force shut down the phone and then power it on? You only need to wipe cache data on newer phones that usually fixes issues.
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No I mean boot into recovery, wipe data, wipe cache then reboot. Same like you do before installing a custom ROM. Is doing it once every month is bad for the device?
I never tried to wipe the cach only, is it effective?
kaborayyan said:
No I mean boot into recovery, wipe data, wipe cache then reboot. Same like you do before installing a custom ROM. Is doing it once every month is bad for the device?
I never tried to wipe the cach only, is it effective?
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Well wiping data wouldn't that wipe your photos, music, documents and so on? I have heard wiping only cache helps some times.
I don't know if it's bad for the device, but I do think it's excessive. I haven't purposely wiped a phone before a major update in the last 5+ years, and even before then, it was only major updates such as a completely new Android version.
Well In the old days when I used to be a Flashoholic I flashed my devices every two or three days in the search for a perfect ROM and of course could never find it.
Short answer what you're doing is not necessarily harmful but In the long run you're putting more use and unnecessary stress and cycles to your device battery life span. Flashing/factory reseting/ setting up the device as new take a lot of battery.
Those are my two cents on the matter.
Jake.S said:
Well wiping data wouldn't that wipe your photos, music, documents and so on? I have heard wiping only cache helps some times.
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Sorry for the late response. Yes, it wipes everything. I do backup of my photos and documents on a flash memory before I do the hard reset. Anyway I'll try using the wipe cache only and see the reults.
Vaizen said:
Well In the old days when I used to be a Flashoholic I flashed my devices every two or three days in the search for a perfect ROM and of course could never find it.
Short answer what you're doing is not necessarily harmful but In the long run you're putting more use and unnecessary stress and cycles to your device battery life span. Flashing/factory reseting/ setting up the device as new take a lot of battery.
Those are my two cents on the matter.
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Yes, you're probably right. I remember my phones burning hot while setting up after the reset. Too much battery strain. My also affects memory integrity. Thanks for the help.
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Hi guys,
My HTC Dream has been lagging beyond belief for the past few weeks, and I was wondering what I could do to increase the speed. I removed a lot of apps I don't use (I have running the latest Cyanogen build, so I don't know if apps2sd will affect my phones performance, but I removed some apps anyway), overclocked my phone, yet still it lags. When I go to SD card & phone storage I see my internal phone storage is only 20.07mb remaining. I see the Factory data reset, but I'm wondering if I should do that. I am hoping it doesn't erase my rom, for example.
.ili.music.ili. said:
Hi guys,
My HTC Dream has been lagging beyond belief for the past few weeks, and I was wondering what I could do to increase the speed. I removed a lot of apps I don't use (I have running the latest Cyanogen build, so I don't know if apps2sd will affect my phones performance, but I removed some apps anyway), overclocked my phone, yet still it lags. When I go to SD card & phone storage I see my internal phone storage is only 20.07mb remaining. I see the Factory data reset, but I'm wondering if I should do that. I am hoping it doesn't erase my rom, for example.
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This should have been posted in Q&A or the roms thread.
Get CacheMate from the market and clean your system.
Thank you, shadowch31, and sorry. So wipe would not be good why?
.ili.music.ili. said:
Thank you, shadowch31, and sorry. So wipe would not be good why?
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A factory reset can be a good thing when you understand what your doing with backing up etc. What it does is clear all your settings and setup back to how it looked when you first got the phone. Anything you have done to personalize your phone will be wiped hence hearing people say 'always do a backup!'.
Before you ask about different methods to back up and their practicalities use the search button. You will learn a lot more.
shadowch31 said:
A factory reset can be a good thing when you understand what your doing with backing up etc. What it does is clear all your settings and setup back to how it looked when you first got the phone. Anything you have done to personalize your phone will be wiped hence hearing people say 'always do a backup!'. And you won't lose cyanogen!!!
Before you ask about different methods to back up and there practicalitys use the search button. You will learn a lot more.
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Fixed it to his biggest worry
Well, thanks, the cachemate worked great.
JAguirre1231 said:
Fixed it to his biggest worry
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If your going to 'Fix it' at least do it properly.
Capital letter for Cyanogen and really is no need for three explanation marks, it was hardly that earth shattering a statement to warrant it.
shadowch31 said:
If your going to 'Fix it' at least do it properly.
Capital letter for Cyanogen and really is no need for three explanation marks, it was hardly that earth shattering a statement to warrant it.
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You'd be surprised how earth shattering it is to some people.
JAguirre1231 said:
You'd be surprised how earth shattering it is to some people.
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You have a point, I'll let that one slide then.
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Well I know it happens, and it happens to multiple people but I haven't pegged an answer why phones will just randomly soft reboot like this.
But more importantly I'm wondering why mine soft rebooted into a boot loop?
Currently reflashing the rom Open Eclair hoping it works cause I don't want to loose all the data BUT it looks like my phone won't go past the G1 screen now.
Hmf.
Well what do you know, lost all my data. That's fantastic.
Wipe + Flash.
Icebergxx said:
Well what do you know, lost all my data. That's fantastic.
Wipe + Flash.
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:/ good thing contacts and stuff are in the cloud
I am filling in the info for him but he told me today that as of the update he gets freezing, only half the apps and info loads, can't see any of his text and he has done about 5 battery pulls already. Prior to the update everything was smooth sailing, he is not rooted and when he got the update he left the phone alone to do it's thing the entire time.
mentalcase87 said:
I am filling in the info for him but he told me today that as of the update he gets freezing, only half the apps and info loads, can't see any of his text and he has done about 5 battery pulls already. Prior to the update everything was smooth sailing, he is not rooted and when he got the update he left the phone alone to do it's thing the entire time.
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Tell him to wipe his data, that should help clear out anything strange.
danifunker said:
Tell him to wipe his data, that should help clear out anything strange.
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I already told him he will probably have to lose everything but I was hoping to maybe give him another alternative.
mentalcase87 said:
I already told him he will probably have to lose everything but I was hoping to maybe give him another alternative.
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I agree with danifunker. Just back his user data (pics, music, etc.) up to external-sd if it isn't already there. You can try backing his user apps up with Titanium Backup, but YMMV with that. You're reintroducing variables back into the flash.
I have also seen quite a few cases where selecting the backup/restore phone with Google during the initial setup after a major OS update has caused issues as well. This happened on quite a few employee phones here where I work during a previous upgrade. So much that it's our standard policy to not select them after a major upgrade. If a data wipe doesn't solve it, a full system restore and unselecting those options during setup is another (destructive) alternative.
Good luck amigo. Keep us posted. :highfive:
I have flashed prolly 25 ROMs over the last year or so. All were various XDA posted ROMs. All were flashed by first wiping the internal system fully as well as the cache and dalvik.
Over time my M7 has become sluggish.
Is it possible that the SD has some residual files that are slowing the overall OS and a total wipe might help?
metropical said:
I have flashed prolly 25 ROMs over the last year or so. All were various XDA posted ROMs. All were flashed by first wiping the internal system fully as well as the cache and dalvik.
Over time my M7 has become sluggish.
Is it possible that the SD has some residual files that are slowing the overall OS and a total wipe might help?
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You might want to do a full wipe and you might want to remove some old files off of your phone to give it more breathing room. Remember to backup everything including the ROM and copy it off of your phone in case something goes wrong.
If you really wanted a clean start then you could get an htc RUU but it would reset the phone completely stock, so make a backup. This helped me when I had a similar slow down on my phone
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You might want to do a full wipe and you might want to remove some old files off of your phone to give it more breathing room. Remember to backup everything including the ROM and copy it off of your phone in case something goes wrong.
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I did a full wipe factory reset. So far things seem better, other than the 1 xPosed module I installed, MacroExpansion, isn't working properly, or at least not the way it did before the wipe.
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I did a full wipe factory reset. So far things seem better, other than the 1 xPosed module I installed, MacroExpansion, isn't working properly, or at least not the way it did before the wipe.
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how many of these slow down threads do you have going ?
To me it seems your digging the same hole you were in before. Why don't you try using the phone without Xposed and without 110 junk apps and games on it? xPosed is a Hack ..the second you install and activate it your phone is no longer normal and your asking for problems
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how many of these slow down threads do you have going ?
To me it seems your digging the same hole you were in before. Why don't you try using the phone without Xposed and without 110 junk apps and games on it? xPosed is a Hack ..the second you install and activate it your phone is no longer normal and your asking for problems
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couple thousand.
no junk, no games at all. and since exposed worked before without issues, I think it's likely to work again. But I'll have some worthwhile input to figure its' issue.
Do I have multiples of the same concept?
Yep, weather for instance. Coz sometimes the servers don't respond when I want to know what's ahead.
Do I have a lot of apps that are seldom used? Yep, but when they're of use, they are.
the one "junk app" that was in particular misbehaving was a NYC subway map, which can be helpful when I go to areas that I'm not totally familiar with.
It now works fine.
One mans junk is anothers useful app. But do I have dancing chickens? Nope.
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and since exposed worked before without issues, I think it's likely to work again.
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Right their is the flaw in your thinking, you did have issues that's why you wiped the phone (Twice). You'll eventually figure it out the hard way
clsA said:
Right their is the flaw in your thinking, you did have issues that's why you wiped the phone (Twice). You'll eventually figure it out the hard way
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Time will tell.
Any advice/suggestions would be MUCH appreciated!
My problem ultimately stems from the fact that my keyboard has somehow been disabled by some errant app, most likely Google's Tap-to-Talk function, a little over a week ago now. Literally out of nowhere. I disabled the general Google App the very day the tap-to-talk function started overriding the HTC Sense keyboard everywhere, and then noticed that neither the keyboard nor the tap-to-talk function were working. I just thought that I could simply restart my phone and any glitch would be removed and my keyboard would return to its normal functioning. I was completely wrong; I haven't been able to use my phone ever since, simply because the keyboard does not come up as usual for me to enter my password, so that since then I've been completely locked out, even though the phone itself is in working order. As far as I know, I don't think that there's any way of overriding the password entry function so that I could simply get into my phone to try to fix the problem that way--but if there is any way, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
Anyway, I have already chatted with a tech from Google Play, and when I saw that nothing worked out down that avenue, I talked with two different HTC support techs. I explained my problem to the last one and said that I would like to perform a Wipe Cache Partition, but as soon as she found out that my phone is Unlocked with S-ON, she said that there's a 50/50 chance my phone could become bricked from performing the cache wipe. She did say that it's all relative to the case, and for some, everything works out fine, while for others, not so much, so she went ahead and created a ticket for me to speak later with the higher-level HTC Developer techs. I have also already visited an actual tech place only to discover that the 2 guys working there primarily specialize in hardware and are unwilling to try any software-related fixes, because of liability issues and probably also because they just haven't got a clue.
My primary concern is losing all the data still stored on my phone, because it is still in working order, and so I feel like I have much more of a chance of somehow retrieving it NOW than if I were to proceed with the cache wipe, have it brick on me, and then be forced to figure something out with a completely broken phone.
So the main question is whether it really is that risky for me to perform a wipe cache partition, because after researching it all over the Internet, I came to the conclusion that it is a safe procedure that should not damage any personal files or information. Now I have found out that is not the case for unlocked phones, which all those tutorial articles fail to mention.
Please, if anyone knows, PLEASE tell me if it would be safe for me to perform this cache wipe on my unlocked phone. But also, if you just have ANY relevant advice to share on this general matter, please let me know.
I have already perused a pretty large quantity of sources all over the net and am growing increasingly worried at the lack of options to get my phone back into working order for me to actually be able to use it again. I decided to turn to this site's forum as a kind of near-last resort, because I am growing pretty panicked and desperate.
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I talked with two different HTC support techs. I explained my problem to the last one and said that I would like to perform a Wipe Cache Partition, but as soon as she found out that my phone is Unlocked with S-ON, she said that there's a 50/50 chance my phone could become bricked from performing the cache wipe.
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Wow :laugh:
Wiping the cache partition will only wipe...... the cache partition (/cache) and it will be repopulated at the next reboot. There is no reason why your phone shouldn't boot after clearing the cache. There are always some risk but its far from 50% imo.
My primary concern is losing all the data still stored on my phone
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You've said that your bootloader is already unlocked right? What about booting in a custom recovery and use ADB to pull all your important files to your computer? Or even better if you have a recent TWRP version, you'll see your phone storage from your computer and you'll be able to simply drag and drop your files to your computer.