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Disabled and Data-Blocked Apps still sending data in the background

Edit: I posted this question two days ago in the general Q & A section of XDA, got no response. Since it is happening on my E4 plus, I am posting it here, hoping to get some insights.
Long story short, I installed Net Monitor (from Play store) to check data usage on my Moto E4 Plus (Verizon), though the question below is probably not limited to this particular device.
I was surprised to see some of the apps that were sending data somewhere even when they are disabled. For example,
1, Gboard (by Google), this app has been disabled in Settings since the beginning. Why is it still sending data? Worst nightmare is an app collecting keyboard entry log and upload it to where??? Why???
2, Some Apps, such as below, I have disabled their background data usage, but they still show up in Net Monitor.
Astro File Manager (an old version that I love to use),
ML Manager,
Photos (by Google)
Youtube
I am sure I did not use these apps during the time that Net Monitor was running as I was testing the whole concept of Net Monitor.
[Edit: I can confirm that these apps show up without me running them in forefront.]
I can understand some communication apps such as Gmail that uses data because I did not block their background data usage.
Some of the apps in the screenshot are presumably system apps though I am a bit suspicious. Knowing recent cases with One Plus and Blu, and Elliot Anderson:
https://www.androidpit.com/elliot-fs...rson-interview
I just wish some experts can help explain or provide some insights, thank you in advance,
BTW, can someone recommend clean Open Source apps that do not abuse permissions and do not send data secretly behind the users? I got a few, but need more. My app sources:
https://www.secuso.informatik.tu-dar...friendly-apps/
https://simplemobiletools.github.io/
https://guardianproject.info/apps/

Disabling apps does't really do much but keep them from updating. I suggest that you use the Amazon Fire trick, I use this for every Android device that I don't root.
- To restore apps you simply factory reset.
- This doesn't uninstall apps, but blocks the app so they don't run.
-- Connect Device
Enable USB debugging in developers options
Code:
adb shell
-- List Apps
Code:
pm list packages
Alternatively, you can search for packages by name
-- Example
Code:
pm list packages amazon
-- Disable Apps
Code:
pm uninstall -k --user 0 [COLOR="Red"]"package name"[/COLOR]

Huawei P10 killing apps that use the GPS (ignoring any settings)

Since a few weeks ago I noticed that my Huawei P10 is aggressively killing any apps that use the GPS after locking the screen.
My EMUI & Android versions are both 8.0.0.
The apps I tried:
- OsmAnd - which I use to trace my walks and improve OSM with the data
- Komoot - which is an app to track your hikes and add photos, etc
- Graticule - which lets you share your location in realtime
What I tried:
1. Bringing up the task manager, locking the lock above the app.
2. Settings -> Battery -> Launch
* 'Manage all automatically' unchecked
* <App Name> unchecked then check all options on 'Manage manually' screen (Auto-launch, Secondary launch and Run in background)
3. Settings -> Apps & notifications -> Apps -> Settings (cog at the bottom of the screen) -> Special access -> Ignore battery optimisation
* Added the apps to the 'Allowed' list
Regardless of the three things above after locking the screen in 5 to 10 minutes the app is killed. I think this is a bug in Huawei's implementation but their support is impossible to contact. I tried repeatedly and received no answer.
This is very frustrating because it used to work until a short time ago. I'm thinking about a factory reset and if that doesn't solve the issue I will be selling the phone because unfortunately this is a deal breaker for me.
Anyone experiencing the same problems? Any solutions? Suggestions?

Also tried formatting the cache partition, didn't help. If I'll have time during the weekend I'll do a factory reset.

I had the same problem with Strava, on an older version.

adb shell pm disable-user com.huawei.powergenie
If you want it back: adb shell pm enable com.huawei.powergenie
Powergenie is to limit battery usage, and it's too aggressive to kill app services.

Thank you for the response.
I did a hard reset and deactivated powergenie as instructed above and the problem still persists.
I can't describe how disappointed I am. I will be putting up the phone for sale.
What I don't understand is: am I the only one having the problem? I don't see other people complaining or they complained about older versions whereas for me it was the other way around. It worked fine until a few months ago and now it doesn't.

I am having this problem with Honor 7x and Runtastic Pro

Battery--settings icon--keep mobile data on?
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Phone manager--settings--turn off smart tune-up?

Did someone already solve this problem.
Hi,
I have the same gps recording problems om my Huawei P10Plus. On 8.0.0 android.
Did someone already found a solution. Huawei support can't offer smart ideas.

Pieterdv said:
Hi,
I have the same gps recording problems om my Huawei P10Plus. On 8.0.0 android.
Did someone already found a solution. Huawei support can't offer smart ideas.
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Hey, had this problem with running app runtastic, so when device promted, I switched in app settings to manual and allowed background running.
After that app was running fine.

I have the same problem with latest release.
Afaik there is no way to prevent huawei from doing this by simply factory reseting. It is not depending on a temporaly bug obviously it is a feature.
I think this was the same problem while VLC blacklisted Huawei devices in the google play store from compatible devices.
Some months ago they said they will make a deal with Huawei... No news about this until today.
And komoot has a topic in their development forum about but still open since many months.
http://support.komoot.de/forums/164264-ideen/suggestions/14366967Sobald es
And GPS apps are not the only ones. I've tried some apps to play local music from the phone on google chromecast. Mostly they stop playing after one music track. I think this is also regarding to the huawei problem with safing energy to aggressively.
Last but not least there are apps that don't have any problems with it. For example Google Maps, Huawei Apps, Whatsapp any much more. So there seem to be a whitelist to the powerengine.

strange.. i have no issue with strava, endomondo, google maps, soundcloud, spotify, google music ...thats the one i tested.
I use endomondo, google maps, soundlcoud and spotify almost everyday without any issues.
Maybe its just that i use the whitelisted apps.
I am on stock B379 C432 firmware.

Solution
We had the same issue in our app. The solution in our app was to change the setting in Settings
Settings->Apps & notifications->Apps-><your app>->Battery
Set App launch to 'Manage manually'
Auto-launch - activated
Secondary launch - activated
Run in background - activated

kitsched said:
Since a few weeks ago I noticed that my Huawei P10 is aggressively killing any apps that use the GPS after locking the screen.
My EMUI & Android versions are both 8.0.0.
The apps I tried:
- OsmAnd - which I use to trace my walks and improve OSM with the data
- Komoot - which is an app to track your hikes and add photos, etc
- Graticule - which lets you share your location in realtime
What I tried:
1. Bringing up the task manager, locking the lock above the app.
2. Settings -> Battery -> Launch
* 'Manage all automatically' unchecked
* <App Name> unchecked then check all options on 'Manage manually' screen (Auto-launch, Secondary launch and Run in background)
3. Settings -> Apps & notifications -> Apps -> Settings (cog at the bottom of the screen) -> Special access -> Ignore battery optimisation
* Added the apps to the 'Allowed' list
Regardless of the three things above after locking the screen in 5 to 10 minutes the app is killed. I think this is a bug in Huawei's implementation but their support is impossible to contact. I tried repeatedly and received no answer.
This is very frustrating because it used to work until a short time ago. I'm thinking about a factory reset and if that doesn't solve the issue I will be selling the phone because unfortunately this is a deal breaker for me.
Anyone experiencing the same problems? Any solutions? Suggestions?
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Goto Phone Manager touch power saving->Optimize.Phone Manager will rapidly identify apps or features that are rapidly drainning the battery.Touch the Optimize button net to each or feartures to disable it and start saving power.You can touch Recover to re-enable the app or feature.When you remove an app from the protected apps list,your phone will close the app automatically when you turn off the screen to save batterry.

Has this been fixed?

This was always the big issue with my P10 in that Apps that I wanted to always run kept being killed until I found this article https://dontkillmyapp.com/huawei?app=Tasker which refered to https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-20-pro/themes/remove-powergenie-to-allow-background-t3890409
after removing powergenie with adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.huawei.powergenie I have had no more issues with applications being killed.

NEW Spam/Malware com.dti.blu aka Mobile Services

NEW ? Spam/Malware com.dti.blu aka Mobile Services
although... while MalwareBytes doesn't considered unwanted notifications malware...
they call them PUPs Potential Unwanted Programs..
But I call them Malware.
It looks like.. on Nov 8th app-blu-release.apk was downloaded and installed
Not sure what it is/was.
Today.. I got a notification for something like this "Blu wants you to come enjoy games..."
long press the notification.
"Mobile Services" com.dti.blu Updated October 27th.
searching the internet.... I didn't find anything of importance..
I don't want to delete it immediately at this time.. not exactly knowing what it is or does..
other than the Spam/Malware intrusion.
I did force stop it.
So.. if anybody has any info on the apk.. please chime in.
It might be very similar to the situation in the thread below which can be resolved once I know what the APK is...
The thread below.. titled "Android Tools" stock app ? I keep getting push notifications..."
https://forum.xda-developers.com/vivo-xl/help/android-tools-stock-app-getting-push-t3752075
thanks group..

Got an unauthorized download of Gamehub or similar last week and deleted it. Got the same notification about being invited to play games today. Uninstalled Mobile Services updates and then disabled it. No problems so far. This appears to be more crap from Blu masquerading as Google mobile services. It's not a Google app.
I finally fought off the auto downloads and constant notifications resulting from last November's Marshmallow upgrade around March or so. Now it's starting up again. Is November Blu's f with our customers month?

This " com.dti.blu " is definitely a malware it keep installing random games such as Candy Crush Saga, FarmVille 2: Country Escape , Move the Block : Slide Puzzle ... etc
i try uninstalling it with
Code:
adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.dti.blu
everything works well but upon looking on apps list it is just disable but it's file size keep getting bigger in real time like it downloading itself again
This is the last time im buying BLU phone

I have a BLU V5 (box says V5, reports G5 in the phone). I'm not getting any unwanted ads or downloads, but It has been slow since the day I got it, and lots of RAM used up even when I'm not doing anything and Android doesn't report what's using it.
Last night, I decided to adb it and found com.bluproducts.activationapp and com.digitalturbine.blubar. I couldn't find anything online on com.bluproducts.activation app, but com.digitalturbine.blubar was definitely an ad service, so I uninstalled from adb. Instant speed improvement.
This morning, I noticed it was slow again, when I used adb, I found a new package that wasn't there before, com.dti.blu. So I uninstalled that, and as soon as I did, com.digitalturbine.blubar re-appeared. I uninstalled that and now I decided to also uninstall com.bluproducts.activationapp. I don't know what's causing these to reinstall. I'll see if it's back tomorrow. Anyone know for sure how to keep these packages from re-installing?

Sharing my experience with a Chinese version Mate 20 Pro

So I finally received my Chinese version Mate 20 Pro Emerald variant and I spent the last 24 hours setting it up, now it's finally getting into a more or less stock android feeling. I decided to write a post because man, I've never spent so much effort just trying to setup a new phone.
Ordering
I ordered the phone from Huawei T Mall store on Nov. 11th. I paid about 1250 CAD through Alipay for the phone and ~ 600 RMB having my friend sending it to me via DHL. I also had to pay some import tax getting it into Canada but it's just bad luck, plus the tax really depends on how much you declare the value to be.
First Impression
I had a Oneplus 5, I like the cleanness of its ROM, it's close to stock android and I was using the Rootless Pixel 2 Launcher which makes it essentially a stock Android device. The Mate 20 Pro is a bit heavier than the Oneplus 5 and it's just slightly bigger.
I started with applying the tempered glass screen protectors I bought also from Taobao when I ordered the phone. Sadly I can't seem to get it in the right place, and it's greatly affecting the screen responsiveness and accuracy. I ended up throwing them away.
Turning it on, and I'm already having issue with the initial setup process. First of all, I was asked to create a Huawei ID. But guess what -- I live in Canada but Canada isn't an available option in the region list, somehow US is. I mean, this phone is not even available in US, why would you provide that as an option but not Canada?
I went ahead choosing US as the region. It asked for phone verification, that worked for me because US and Canada share the same country code.
After that, I uninstall a bunch of pre-installed apps -- they are mostly popular apps in China, plus a few useless utilities made by Huawei. I uninstall about 25 apps during this process.
Then I tried to restore all my apps from the old phone, first step would be getting Google Play Service working. Surprisingly Google Play Service is pre-installed. but I wasn't able to update it through the Huawei App Store, because US Huawei ID apparently is not supported. In fact I can't use any of the pre-installed Huawei apps, they are all blocked. So I deleted my account and created a Chinese one instead.
I was able to access the app store and update Google Play Service, along with Play Store. Google backup apparently didn't work. I ended up using the Huawei "Phone Clone" app to transfer all my stuff to this phone. It does the job pretty well.
Getting third party launcher working on Chinese ROM (If you have a global version then this may not apply to you)
Spent sometime getting all the apps logged in and tweaking settings, I started to look into replacing the stock launcher. But then you can't change launcher on the Chinese rom, so I did some research and here is what I did:
1. Install a third party launcher. I chose Nova Launcher here. Never used it before but Rootless Launcher kept crashing and for Rootless Pixel 2 Launcher, there is an annoying security alert saying "Google is using microphone" that kept popping up.
1. Enable developer mode
2. Enable USB Debug
3. Connect the phone to PC
4. Access ADB shell
5. uninstall stock launch: pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.huawei.android.launcher
6. Reboot
A few notes on using this 3rd party launcher hack:
* I also installed the Nova companion app to have Google Feed panel access.
* You need to allow Nova companion to auto-launch in Settings -> Apps -> App Launch, otherwise rebooting the phone will make Google Feed panel disappear.
* If you select gesture navigation in system setting, swiping up from bottom may not work.
Getting Google Assistant to work
The phone has the Huawei voice assistant by default, and changing the default Assistant app to Google doesn't work. The shortcut still only bring up the Huawei voice assistant. The fix is to uninstall the app using the same process above. The package name is com.huawei.vassistant. After reboot, I was able to access Google Assistant using the home button (I still prefer three key navigation). "OK Google" doesn't work on Home screen though.
Make sure push notifications are working
I also noticed I don't receive push notifications most of the time. For example, I have Duo Mobile which is used as an authenticator at work. Having the screen on, I didn't receive the push notification. I had to launch the app manually to see the authentication request. Here is a workaround:
1. Settings -> Apps -> App Launch
2. Find the app you wish to receive push notification
3. Disable auto manage, it will ask you how you want to manage manually, choose Auto-launch and Run in Background at least
Known Issues/Todo list
Here are some of the things that I'm having issue with but haven't figured out a solution yet. Please let me know if you know a solution to any of them:
1. Google Pay Contactless does not work. This is almost a deal breaker. From what I've read, it seems to be just Chinese version doesn't work.
1. LastPass accessibility setting gets reverted to off randomly. This seems to related to when I close all apps using the trashcan button on recent apps screen.
2. Default Assistant app setting mysteriously gets reset to None. Still don't understand why.
3. Text in the notification just look so bad. Also not sure how to tweak that.
4. The security alert for app using microphone keeps popping up in Google Assist and Google Feed. I'm not sure how I should feel about that...
Things I like about this device
1. Chinese version supported dual SIM. I believe the global version does not.
2. photos in low lights are awesome.
3. charging is super fast! I also got the wireless charging thing.
4. I'm happy with its battery performance so far.
5. It's a faster device overall. The games I play run smoother on this phone comparing to Oneplus 5. I understand OP5 is an older phone but that's the only reference point I got.
That's what I had so far. I'm also keeping an eye on the progress of FunkyHuawei Mate 20 Pro support -- I'm looking forward to flash the global version ROM hoping it has better google integration and less chinese-oriented useless "features".
Hope it helps!

Thanks for sharing

Does the device show as being certified in the Google Play Store? If not, this would probably explain why contactless via GP doesn't work

Minotaur said:
Does the device show as being certified in the Google Play Store? If not, this would probably explain why contactless via GP doesn't work
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Yes it shows as certified in playstore.

henexekrar said:
Yes it shows as certified in playstore.
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Hmmm interesting... is there an error message or such that might indicate why GPay doesn't work?

Minotaur said:
Hmmm interesting... is there an error message or such that might indicate why GPay doesn't work?
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when attempting to enable contactless, the following messages appear in order:
contacting your bank...
your bank is verifying your card...
added feature cannot be setup. contact your bank to resolve this issue.
I called the bank and they said they didn't get the request so they don't know what error it is.
I contacted Google and haven't got a response.

Did you already have the card in your GPay wallet, and were re-verifying, or did you add it from scratch? Guessing it may not make a difference though.

Minotaur said:
Did you already have the card in your GPay wallet, and were re-verifying, or did you add it from scratch? Guessing it may not make a difference though.
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I had the card in the wallet for a long time. Used it with my old phone without issue.

Does it support Band 66? Thanks
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I was in China last week and almost bought the Mate 20 Pro. After reading many reviews I decided to not buy the Chinese Version and pay a little more to get the Google version from Hong Kong

Any updates?
Were you able to find any way to get LastPass working properly?
Accessibility features keep resetting for me right away.

Hi, have your version finger-id? I bought a mate 20 pro red in aliexpress but i can't find the finger-id......

John_nl_74 said:
Hi, have your version finger-id? I bought a mate 20 pro red in aliexpress but i can't find the finger-id......
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The LYA-AL00 with 6 GM RAM and 128 GB storage has no fingerprint sensor. It only uses face, pattern, and password unlock.

Question Disabling Bixby and Samsung Pay

Would like to DISABLE Bixby and Samsung Pay in entirety.
There used to be apps that you could use on your Samsung phone, but last I tried that it went belly up and on a per year license, and since is long gone or unsupported.
I don't know ADB too well but am willing to use it to disable/remove all the samsung crap.
Thanks

Why? If you just don't open it, it never does anything.

monocle503 said:
Would like to DISABLE Bixby and Samsung Pay in entirety.
There used to be apps that you could use on your Samsung phone, but last I tried that it went belly up and on a per year license, and since is long gone or unsupported.
I don't know ADB too well but am willing to use it to disable/remove all the samsung crap.
Thanks
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1) Download GeminiMan WearOS Manager from the Playstore. It simplifies the ADB process. It's a brilliant program. 2) Read up on the debloat page for the Galaxy Watch 4. We pretty much have the same on Watch 5. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/debloat-galaxy-watch-4.4324147/page-9
This got me through cleaning up my watch.
(FYI: GeminiMan made it easy for me to to remove the Samsung Health Monitor and replace it with the version that allows BP and ECG. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-restriction-removed-19th-april-2023.4322527/ )

Locoman_ said:
1) Download GeminiMan WearOS Manager from the Playstore. It simplifies the ADB process. It's a brilliant program. 2) Read up on the debloat page for the Galaxy Watch 4. We pretty much have the same on Watch 5. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/debloat-galaxy-watch-4.4324147/page-9
This got me through cleaning up my watch.
(FYI: GeminiMan made it easy for me to to remove the Samsung Health Monitor and replace it with the version that allows BP and ECG. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-restriction-removed-19th-april-2023.4322527/ )
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Thank you for the lead in the right direction

monocle503 said:
Would like to DISABLE Bixby and Samsung Pay in entirety.
There used to be apps that you could use on your Samsung phone, but last I tried that it went belly up and on a per year license, and since is long gone or unsupported.
I don't know ADB too well but am willing to use it to disable/remove all the samsung crap.
Thanks
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I would not rely on a third party app to manage packages. Instead enable developer mode and from an adb shell run:
pm disable-user --user 0 com.samsung.android.samsungpay.gear
to disable Samsung Pay. Just disable it, don't uninstall it.
I would not touch Bixby. In case you want to try, the associated packages are:
com.samsung.android.bixby.agent
com.samsung.android.bixby.wakeup
Again, just disable, don't uninstall. But my guess is even if disabled it will cause problems on the watch because other functions depend on Bixby existing even if it is not used. lf you do disable it and it works ok, please let us know.
So far the only app that I know can be safely uninstalled is Global Goals:
pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.sree

Aethera said:
I would not rely on a third party app to manage packages. Instead enable developer mode and from an adb shell run:
pm disable-user --user 0 com.samsung.android.samsungpay.gear
to disable Samsung Pay. Just disable it, don't uninstall it.
I would not touch Bixby. In case you want to try, the associated packages are:
com.samsung.android.bixby.agent
com.samsung.android.bixby.wakeup
Again, just disable, don't uninstall. But my guess is even if disabled it will cause problems on the watch because other functions depend on Bixby existing even if it is not used. lf you do disable it and it works ok, please let us know.
So far the only app that I know can be safely uninstalled is Global Goals:
pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.sree
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Don't get me wrong. Never 'rely' on a 3rd party app to manage packages. Understand ADB. That said, the app I mentioned is made by XDA-Dante63 and very legit - it does a great job.
Bixby is fine to disable. Assistant is better anyway. Samsung Pay and a bunch of other stuff can be safely removed. My watch works wonderfully but other user experiences may vary.