Question Pocof3 vs oneplus10t, battle of speed. - OnePlus 10 Pro

Hello all, there is this game i play; bus simulator Indonesia. Many of my friends play this game, all of them has high end device with powerful snapdragon chips, 6 months ago one of my friend bought poco f3 that has sd870 5G clock rate 3.20ghz. I was using a oneplus 7tpro McLaren 855+ at 2.98ghz which served me well, but than comes the poco f3. Which was insanely fast. In this game loading next map is a big deal, newer chipset and faster clock rate translates to faster loading, i was happy with my 7tpro, at times i saw it had beat rog 5 in terms of loading speed. So 3 months ago i got the oneplus 10pro 8 gen 1, but still i couldn’t beat the loading speed of poco f3, i did some research and i found out It's due to the clock speed. 10pro has a clock rate of 3.0ghz. So i wasn’t happy with the performance from 10pro, because it Couldn't beat the poco f3 which was 3x cheaper than 10pro. So 10 days ago i got the oneplus 10t, that has 8gen+1 clock rate 3.19ghz 16gb edition and here comes the shocker, my 10t still falls short when compared to the loading speed of poco f3, i Couldn't believe what was happening. How is the poco f3 still so much faster than 10t?? I Don't know what to do now, i was kind of embarrassed because i told everyone my 10t would be faster than the poco f3, now i am thinking about unlocking bootloader and overclocking my 10t. Any ideas on this matter is highly appreciated. Thankyou.

Godsavetheking said:
Hello all, there is this game i play; bus simulator Indonesia. Many of my friends play this game, all of them has high end device with powerful snapdragon chips, 6 months ago one of my friend bought poco f3 that has sd870 5G clock rate 3.20ghz. I was using a oneplus 7tpro McLaren 855+ at 2.98ghz which served me well, but than comes the poco f3. Which was insanely fast. In this game loading next map is a big deal, newer chipset and faster clock rate translates to faster loading, i was happy with my 7tpro, at times i saw it had beat rog 5 in terms of loading speed. So 3 months ago i got the oneplus 10pro 8 gen 1, but still i couldn’t beat the loading speed of poco f3, i did some research and i found out It's due to the clock speed. 10pro has a clock rate of 3.0ghz. So i wasn’t happy with the performance from 10pro, because it Couldn't beat the poco f3 which was 3x cheaper than 10pro. So 10 days ago i got the oneplus 10t, that has 8gen+1 clock rate 3.19ghz 16gb edition and here comes the shocker, my 10t still falls short when compared to the loading speed of poco f3, i Couldn't believe what was happening. How is the poco f3 still so much faster than 10t?? I Don't know what to do now, i was kind of embarrassed because i told everyone my 10t would be faster than the poco f3, now i am thinking about unlocking bootloader and overclocking my 10t. Any ideas on this matter is highly appreciated. Thankyou.
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Have you turned on high performance mode in battery advanced settings?

qn1ck said:
Have you turned on high performance mode in battery advanced settings?
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Yes, it's always on and it's useless, there's no difference to be honest.

It's nothing to do with clock speeds.. unless it's an identical processor.
Chances are the Poco has a lower screen resolution, if you're running your phone in QHD mode then you're pushing a tonne more pixels than any of the Poco devices.
Lower your resolution to FHD+ then retry.
Another thing to note is that not all processors are made equally, some just perform better than others and this unfortunately is a lottery, you simply don't know what you're going to get.
What firmware are you running? If it's Android 13 then it'll probably run better but will overheat quicker and as such will result in throttling.
If you're rooted then grab Franco kernel manager and tweak your clock speeds for the GPU and CPU or even the governor.
If you're not rooted then you'll have expanded RAM turned on, this will result in slower performance in regards to gaming performance as the DDR RAM used is faster than the storage swap file.
Lastly, the load time of the game has nothing to do with how well it plays, the FPS dictates the performance of a CPU/GPU.
You can get games/apps to load quicker by tweaking a setting to make apps load faster, check settings for this.
One more thing is what is your Poco friend running? If it's a custom ROM then they may already be pushing their device beyond its stock capabilities.
The 8 gen 1 should definitely be quicker than any of the Poco devices.
Download AetherX2 and grab a PS2 game like Tekken Tag (must own original) then see how your phone performs compare to the Poco, it should make it look weak as hell.

Its All About Optimization.
You can overclock or just disable thermal throattling to gain more performance..
I'm coming from Poco f3 overclocked..
There is alot of differences btw these two devices..
You have to do Optimizations to gain high level performance.
1. Root Op10 Pro
2. Install Thermal throattling Magisk module
Or
After Rooting Install Uperf Module and select Performance Governor..
Op 10 Pro Is Far ahead of Poco F3
Edit: I'm Stuck while Over-Clocking Op10pro Because of Vbmeta Verity.. If i'm able to get it work then it'll be +37% Performance then Stock 8gen1

Xpid3r said:
Its All About Optimization.
You can overclock or just disable thermal throattling to gain more performance..
I'm coming from Poco f3 overclocked..
There is alot of differences btw these two devices..
You have to do Optimizations to gain high level performance.
1. Root Op10 Pro
2. Install Thermal throattling Magisk module
Or
After Rooting Install Uperf Module and select Performance Governor..
Op 10 Pro Is Far ahead of Poco F3
Edit: I'm Stuck while Over-Clocking Op10pro Because of Vbmeta Verity.. If i'm able to get it work then it'll be +37% Performance then Stock 8gen1
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You honestly don't need to overclock the 8 gen 1. The hardest thing you can throw at it is AetherX2, beyond that there isn't anything much it can't do

Godsavetheking said:
Hello all, there is this game i play; bus simulator Indonesia. Many of my friends play this game, all of them has high end device with powerful snapdragon chips, 6 months ago one of my friend bought poco f3 that has sd870 5G clock rate 3.20ghz. I was using a oneplus 7tpro McLaren 855+ at 2.98ghz which served me well, but than comes the poco f3. Which was insanely fast. In this game loading next map is a big deal, newer chipset and faster clock rate translates to faster loading, i was happy with my 7tpro, at times i saw it had beat rog 5 in terms of loading speed. So 3 months ago i got the oneplus 10pro 8 gen 1, but still i couldn’t beat the loading speed of poco f3, i did some research and i found out It's due to the clock speed. 10pro has a clock rate of 3.0ghz. So i wasn’t happy with the performance from 10pro, because it Couldn't beat the poco f3 which was 3x cheaper than 10pro. So 10 days ago i got the oneplus 10t, that has 8gen+1 clock rate 3.19ghz 16gb edition and here comes the shocker, my 10t still falls short when compared to the loading speed of poco f3, i Couldn't believe what was happening. How is the poco f3 still so much faster than 10t?? I Don't know what to do now, i was kind of embarrassed because i told everyone my 10t would be faster than the poco f3, now i am thinking about unlocking bootloader and overclocking my 10t. Any ideas on this matter is highly appreciated. Thankyou.
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I've experienced the same as you, because previously I've owned and Asus Rog Phone 5 with SD888, but when I've get the OP10 Pro, I've immediately noticed that OP10Pro feels the same or even worse , talking about app speed opening and overall performance, so for my luck another Asus Rog phone 5 come to my hands, it was only the 8gb/128gb version, however i've tested side by side and figure out that the ASUS was effectively faster than the OP10pro, and even made an Antutu and Geekbench 5 test on both and i cant believe, that the Asus got a better score on both synthetic benchmarks.
Then I've made a deal with the Rog phone 5 , so I've got and Xiaomi Mi11 T pro with SD 888 and same result, plus the Xioami feels more fluid and responsive.
Even i've thought it can be related to the Android 13 open beta 2 I was, downgrade to A12 to test, and worst results.
Very disappointed with Oneplus, I'm actually selling the phone to bought and Asus Rog phone 5s, saving almost 200 bucks.

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Switch from N910c to Xiaomi Redmi 5 Plus - is it worth it?

As in the title of the topic - is it worth it? Xiaomi Redmi 5 plus is a mid-range phone but new one. I can not find a comparison of exynos octa vs snapdragon 625.
What is your opinion?
MatthewNS said:
As in the title of the topic - is it worth it? Xiaomi Redmi 5 plus is a mid-range phone but new one. I can not find a comparison of exynos octa vs snapdragon 625.
What is your opinion?
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SD625 is old 2 year same 3gb ram like n4..Video record in fullHD but 30fps(n4 can do it better-fullhd 60fps, and there is 2k,4k), non removable bttry, N4 have 5Ghz and 2.4Ghz wifi band, S styles ...maybe not? :/
Im doing the jump myself from a N910P, i think is worth it, SD625 serves enough power and the battery life is tremendous!
MatthewNS said:
As in the title of the topic - is it worth it? Xiaomi Redmi 5 plus is a mid-range phone but new one. I can not find a comparison of exynos octa vs snapdragon 625.
What is your opinion?
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The camera and the screen will be a downgrade. Battery life will, however, be much better on Redmi 5 Plus. Although SD625 is not a powerhouse Xiaomi is good at optimizing the speed and fluidity on MIUI so I think 5 Plus will actually feel faster than Note 4 in day to day tasks.
Good luck in getting the boot-loader unlocked and getting a nice custom ROM.
Not that it's impossible, but man, that's a pain in the a** hassle.
https://xiaomifirmware.com/guides-and-tips/unlock-bootloader-on-redmi-5-5a/
I (still) have my Exynos N4 since October 2016 - until today no sign of any problem, including battery. And I burned it with quite a bit of custom ROM's and tweaking.
Big nope
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Xiaomi redmi note 8 pro or xiaomi mi cc9 (9 lite)

Hello all !
I need some help!
I'm in need of a new phone and came to the conclusion I wanted a Xiaomi. After watching some video's I came to the conclusion I wanted the Mi CC9 (Mi 9 Lite) so I've just ordered the 64gb variant.
After doing some further research I've discovered I could've got a Redmi Note 8 Pro for only £8 more.
Do you think I should cancel my order and get the Note 8 Pro? The dust and splash resistant is something I could really do with as I hate the fear of potential water damage from rain.
Also even though the Note 8 Pro features a 4500 maH battery and the Mi 9 Lite only has a 4030 maH battery which do you think will last longer? Considering it has a bigger screen and a more demanding processor do you think that the 9 Lite battery will still be better?
Note 8 pro. CC9 doesn't have support for google cameras ( buffer 3 )
The note 8 pro has got a Mediathek processor which have (at least it's predecessors) been known for overheating and poor efficiency (mostly noticable when used very heavily). Some tests say the same but it's up to you if you believe them. Considering the screen size and amoled technology as well as the more efficient processor I'd actually think that the cc9 (mi 9 lite) has better battery life.
I've actually ordered the mi 9 lite which will arrive in around 2-3 weeks. Then I'll be able to give further information. The reason I've gotten the mi 9 lite instead of the 8 pro are:
1. Screen size (didn't want such a big screen)
2. Amoled display
3. In display fingerprint sensor
4. Snapdragon processor
5. Battery life on both phones will definitely get me through the day so that wasn't really anything I've kept in mind whilst deciding
Hope this helps
Good question!
I'm not really knowledgeable yet, but I have read somewhere that the Mediatek processor ( Note 8 pro ) doesn't have much support for custom Roms.
Once the development of LineageOS for the Mi 9 lite has started seriously, I would love to get one.
Or it is best to wait for a bit......
https://www.notebookcheck.net/A-gli...ophone-F2-speculation-off-again.435678.0.html

Versus

Why should I buy this phone over the pixel 3,oneplus 7 Pro or oneplus 7t?
OP7 Pro would be a great choice. 90Hz display, UFS 3.0 and the most important one is the richest development community vs the other two. But be aware of that there is some reports of defected units.
jakegsxr11 said:
Why should I buy this phone over the pixel 3,oneplus 7 Pro or oneplus 7t?
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Those phones have:
- Wireless charging (Pixel 3)
- 90Hz Display (Oneplus)
- UFS 3.0 (Oneplus)
- Fast near-stock android updates (OxygenOS updates really quickly and is beautiful, stock android is great as always)
- Minorly better cameras (Oneplus)
K20 pro / Mi 9T Pro has:
- Significantly cheaper price (just over half, in some cases)
- Wireless charging can be resolved with an extension
- Display refresh rate can be resolved with rooting android P (Q only goes to 72Hz right now, but 90Hz support coming soon)
- UFS 3 is disadvantage, but not by much!
- MIUI: MIUI11 is amazing, 10 isn't bad, and the phone can easily be rooted to resolve these
- HEADPHONE JACK!!
- Full screen display!
All phones have:
- Fantastic cameras
- Google Camera App support (powerhouse behind Pixel 3's cameras)
- Beautiful displays, even if refresh rates aren't equal
- Snappy processors and fantastic speed (You won't notice lag)
- Long-term OS support
- Large communities (varying levels of support)
All in all: If you have the money, I'd definitely suggest going for the Oneplus 7 Pro, 7T, or 7T Pro
But if you're looking for a phone giving you the best value for money with a headphone jack? I'd definitely suggest going with the Mi 9T pro.
I couldn't wish for anything more (Except a micro-sd card slot, but that ain't there on the oneplus phones either)
After looking into it some more I don't think the limited frequencies/bands are going to cut it with the Mi 9T pro. I'm in the US and using AT&T, as of right now the bands are adequate with the towers I use however my research shows AT&T is actively implementing band 66 for LTE and I like to keep my phones for 4 years or so. I'm coming from a OnePlus 2 so I need to future-proof somewhat if possible.
jakegsxr11 said:
After looking into it some more I don't think the limited frequencies/bands are going to cut it with the Mi 9T pro. I'm in the US and using AT&T, as of right now the bands are adequate with the towers I use however my research shows AT&T is actively implementing band 66 for LTE and I like to keep my phones for 4 years or so. I'm coming from a OnePlus 2 so I need to future-proof somewhat if possible.
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Fair enough. I use T-Mobile (Technically, Ting, which runs on T-Mobile) so 2/3 of the primary bands (2 and 4) are secure, only missing band 12.

Can you recommend the X2 Pro?

Hello!
I hope you guys can help me. I wanna buy a new phone but i dont wanna spend more than 500€ - at the moment iam using my Oneplus 6 which is really great but i search for a smartphone with a better Cam (OP6 -> 16+20MP).
Do you can really recommend the X2 Pro? I saw a lot of videos that the quality of the cam is not the best ...
What do you think about the X3 Superzoom? i also saw here that the quality isnt good, extremly bad
Do you know when you cant recommend it another smartphone which is better?
I hope some of you can help me! Thank you for you help and hints !
If you want the best cam out there, then you should look elsewhere. Otherwise this is a pretty good camera for the price. It's just a shame that photo processing in the stock cam is quite bad, though it really shines with the GCam, you can't use wide and telephoto lenses (in the stock ROM).
I'd give it an 8.5/10 with the GCam.
If you want a better camera for that price, look at the Poco F2 phone. So every phone has good and bad components. The X3 has an IPS panel...... So every time 1-2 components are not my first choice under 500€. The camera at the realme X2 Pro is OK. The charging is top. The CPU is good but from 2019. Battery is good, but if you have 20% you have to know that it came from two battery's. So I charge at 20%. Realme One UI software is ok but not oneplus. For me it feels like Huawei. All Google stuff and realme software can't be deleted, only with adb or root.
At the first week I think to give it back. After a month I am really good with that phone.
my other favorites:
Poco F2
realme x50 pro
OPPO find pro
I went. From the 6T to the X2 pro and I have been really happy, particularly with the 90hz screen,stereo speakers, battery and superior fingerprint.The cameras are decent but you will probably need gcam to get the best out of them.
If I were you though I would be looking at the Poco f2 pro which has the newer 5g enabled SD 865 and better specs overall except for the speakers and 90hz.
The X2 pro is good though, RealmeUI is decent too and it's a good deal.You can get the 12gb ram 256gb storage at a good price too while the Poco only see to have 6/128 variant at the moment,
Depends on your needs I guess,the 12gb ram is a gimmick though when you only need less than 6gb in real life scenarios
manus31 said:
I went. From the 6T to the X2 pro and I have been really happy, particularly with the 90hz screen,stereo speakers, battery and superior fingerprint.The cameras are decent but you will probably need gcam to get the best out of them.
If I were you though I would be looking at the Poco f2 pro which has the newer 5g enabled SD 865 and better specs overall except for the speakers and 90hz.
The X2 pro is good though, RealmeUI is decent too and it's a good deal.You can get the 12gb ram 256gb storage at a good price too while the Poco only see to have 6/128 variant at the moment,
Depends on your needs I guess,the 12gb ram is a gimmick though when you only need less than 6gb in real life scenarios
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are you in the USA ? do you think i need to worry about a missing bands for tmobile & at&T or it just works ? i m on 6T and want to change/upgrade, i like this phone but concerned about the frequency bands for LTE in USA
Manan79 said:
are you in the USA ? do you think i need to worry about a missing bands for tmobile & at&T or it just works ? i m on 6T and want to change/upgrade, i like this phone but concerned about the frequency bands for LTE in USA
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Not in the US so don't know for sure but you should check so e websites to see:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/realme-x2-pro
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Che...on-T-Mobile-and-Sprint-use-in-the-USA_id77933
hey guys hoping someone might be able to help me out. i Just brought a realme x2pro and i was in the smart assistant page and in the settings i accidentally unsubscribed my events and it accidentally deleted the calendar that shows up on the smart assistant page. i was wondering how do i get the calendar display to show back up on the smart assistant screen. if anyone can help would be great thanks

General I already regret buying redmi note 9

This phone seems so much better for a better or the same price or lower price
108MP an AMOLED display 120hz even the phone looks much better especially the camera module
good enough chipset
god i regret getting the redmi note 9
historys said:
This phone seems so much better for a better or the same price or lower price
108MP an AMOLED display 120hz even the phone looks much better especially the camera module
good enough chipset
god i regret getting the redmi note 9
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Fortunately, I keep thinking that I'll go for either Redmi Note 9 Pro or POCO X3 NFC from last months. But thanks for my "patience skill" so I could save my money to consider this phone.
Edit: Fixing some typos.
gloeyisk said:
Fortunately, I keep thinking that I'll go for either Redmi Note 9 Pro or POCO X3 NFC from last months. But thanks for my "patience skill" so I could save my money to consider this phone.
Edit: Fixing some typos.
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i'll probably upgrade in 2 or 3 years to the newest redmi phone if they keep getting out phones like this
this phone is absolutely amazing for the price hopefully redmi note 11 will also be the same if not even better
also poco x3 users are absolutely SEETHING
Using redmi note 7 from 2019, was looking for a good option for upgrade. I guess I got the perfect one, Redmi Note 10 Pro.
historys said:
i'll probably upgrade in 2 or 3 years to the newest redmi phone if they keep getting out phones like this
this phone is absolutely amazing for the price hopefully redmi note 11 will also be the same if not even better
also poco x3 users are absolutely SEETHING
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I wouldn't say many poco x3 are seething. spec wise is practically the same except the AMOLED and camera. I'm happy with good panel LCD screen on the x3- won't need to worry about burn-in/bleed if one is a heavy gamer. x3 is still one beast of a phone for the price!
Well Redmi Note 10 Pro (Global) and Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite (Global) are the two phones I'm looking for which for the 6/128 GB variant seem to cost just about the same (~265 €). My focus is on:
DualSIM, dedicated microSD, good stabilized video 1080p and possibly also 4k, very good day and ok night pictures, fast cpu/gpu (Antutu over 250k), Fast LTE with Bands 3,20,7,1,32 (8,38,28a), 3.5mm-Jack.
Both devices have those features. Unfortunately no Snapdragon 8 series devices with dedicated microSD and 3.5mm-Jack exist, so I need to stick to this lower mid-range class.
Redmi Note 10 Pro real advantage of 108 Mpx Samsung5K HM2 f/1.9 over 64 Mpx Sony IMX682 Exmor RS f/1.89 needs to be proven by side by side dedicated picture and video test. With GCam probably because of the slightly better processor in the Mi 10T Lite (Snapdragon 750G) it seems possible to activate EIS for 4k Videos. With Snapdragon 732G this seems unlikely to be possible. Also Mi 10T Lite has 3 of the 4 important 5G Bands in my area, could not find info that a Note 10 Pro Snapdragon Upgrade to 5G will be released (Global, the Note 10 5G is based on MediaTek).
So the advantages of Note 10 Pro (AMOLED, 108 Mpx, Radio FM) currently seem less important then those of Mi 10T Lite. I will wait until detailed camera comparisons are available, possibly with GCam for both devices.
EDIT: I need to correct that Mi 10T Lite (Global) according to several reviews on YouTube has no dedicated microSD (only hybrid DualSIM). Many techsheets online seem to have dedicated. This is a bummer and will leave only Redmi Note 10 Pro (Global) as candidate for my next buy.
5x optical zoom would have sold me, guess ill have to wait for another phone
dingdong3000 said:
I wouldn't say many poco x3 are seething. spec wise is practically the same except the AMOLED and camera. I'm happy with good panel LCD screen on the x3- won't need to worry about burn-in/bleed if one is a heavy gamer. x3 is still one beast of a phone for the price!
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Been using xiaomi devices since redmi 2 prime, their phones are either hit or miss. Sometimes they absolutely cheap out on hardware. My current redmi note 7 has a LCD panel and it shows signs of screen burn. These manufacturers are pumping out phones without worrying about quality and overall experience.
historys said:
god i regret getting the redmi note 9
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Just sell it, buy Redmi Note 10 Pro and be one of the cool kids.
DoritoPower said:
Been using xiaomi devices since redmi 2 prime, their phones are either hit or miss. Sometimes they absolutely cheap out on hardware. My current redmi note 7 has a LCD panel and it shows signs of screen burn. These manufacturers are pumping out phones without worrying about quality and overall experience.
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i had the lg v20 and it was supposedly a "flagship lg phone" but it was just a mess the two screen design didn't look at all and there was a lot of burn in
i didn't even know LCD panels can get burn in until i got that phone
Thing is the redmi note 9 variants have good, stable roms by now but it took months and months to get there, which was an exercise in frustration I'm not going to go through again, so I'm perfectly fine with my 9s and will get this one once/if there are solid roms available with all bugs squashed. Not interested in smelly Mi Ui.
citral23 said:
Thing is the redmi note 9 variants have good, stable roms by now but it took months and months to get there, which was an exercise in frustration I'm not going to go through again, so I'm perfectly fine with my 9s and will get this one once/if there are solid roms available with all bugs squashed. Not interested in smelly Mi Ui.
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The first stable (GSI) ROM was from sooti. Other non GSI ROMs weren't maintained long before you had to switch to another ROM. That's a pain.
I hope the Redmi Note 10 Pro or newer Poco phones will get better community support.
DoritoPower said:
Been using xiaomi devices since redmi 2 prime, their phones are either hit or miss. Sometimes they absolutely cheap out on hardware. My current redmi note 7 has a LCD panel and it shows signs of screen burn. These manufacturers are pumping out phones without worrying about quality and overall experience.
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you are right
same here
i faced problems with my redmi note 7 screen burn and the battery too
i change it twice but seems not as good as the original
accubattery show me the capacity at 2000mah i cant find where is the problem with those new batteries
i ordered this new note 10 pro and i hope it will be a good choice
if not i will never buy xiaomi phones again
Need to rant again: I do not understand why in every series and also other brands with a better CPU (Snapdragon 8 series) they omit the microSD slot (not even shared) and in most cases also the 3.5mm-Jack. Is Google enforcing this?
The Redmi Note 10 Pro with Snapdragon 888 (865 also ok) and maybe better RAM specs would be awesome.
Don't worry. Exchange it with note 9 pro, you'll get a wholesome discount of 100$ or 9000₹.
ChriMo said:
Need to rant again: I do not understand why in every series and also other brands with a better CPU (Snapdragon 8 series) they omit the microSD slot (not even shared) and in most cases also the 3.5mm-Jack. Is Google enforcing this?
The Redmi Note 10 Pro with Snapdragon 888 (865 also ok) and maybe better RAM specs would be awesome.
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this is not a flagship
this is a budget-ish phone
historys said:
this is not a flagship. this is a budget-ish phone
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Yeah, but why has it more interfaces-expansion-ports/connectivity then Xiaomi top phones? I would pay more and think the CPU, microSD slot and Jack alone would not make the phone much more expensive (like 600 $ or more). At least Redmi K40 Pro with Snapdragon 888 does cost only ca. 460 $ but has no microSD slot and no 3.5mm-Jack. Since everyone, not only Xiaomi, is doing it I do not understand it: why not use the integration of those two features as advantage to the competition? There must be some hidden policy behind this IMHO
Hah: It almost seems Xiaomi did use the strategy I wanted at least for the Poco X3 Pro (PX3P) presented yesterday! It has a shared/hybrid microSD slot and 3.5mm-Jack paired with a Snapdragon 860 - Antutu ~486k. By comparison the Snapdragon 732G in the Redmi Note 10 Pro (RN10P) has Antutu ~288k - Snapdragon 865 has Antutu ~615k and Snapdragon 888 has Antutu ~730k - so not top flagship performance but solid medium/premium territory, while the Snapdragon 732G now seems more budget level: even the Snapdragon 678 in the Redmi Note 10 (available for under 200$) delivers Antutu ~277k.
In addition PX3P has the advantage of UFS Storage 3.1 against UFS Storage 2.2 in RN10P. But it lacks FM Radio, AMOLED and also has no 5G. The "better" POCO F3 also presented yesterday by comparison is a rebranded Redmi K40 Pro (for Global) with Snapdragon 870 and 5G but no microSD (some sheets say it has Independent SD slot) and no 3.5mm-Jack and also good prices. The Poco F2 Pro at least has the 3.5mm-Jack.
Of course the camera in the PX3P seems disadvantaged with 48MP, f/1.79 IMX582 Exmor for the main lense, but fast CPU and memory are attractive for fast video editing etc. I will try to compare reviews with a focus on 4k EIS and 1080p EIS Video.
It's crazy how Xiaomi is coming up with these phones. Xiaomi is just competing with itself for 350USD and below phones right now
ushgaga said:
It's crazy how Xiaomi is coming up with these phones. Xiaomi is just competing with itself for 350USD and below phones right now
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I agree. Some small competitors like Realme and Vivo try to deliver similar price/performance, but because much less models will be selled, much lower community support regarding GCam, CustomROMs (like Xiaomi.eu/mi-globe, AOSP/LOS based, etc.) will be available and so in my case much less attractive at similar price.
OnePlus has left this price territory and other interesting devices from Asus, Google, Samsung, Motorola just miss features and/or cost too much in comparison.
The thing I would like to see on sub 350$ Xiaomi phones is OIS (optical image stabilization) paired with gyroscope EIS stabilization to get top notch videos at 1080p or even 4k and at the same time less shaky/blurry images. But it seems Megapixel of the sensor are the stronger (selling) argument for the time being. In my case a top quality 12-18 Megapixel image is more then enough, I dislike the washed out details at zoom 1:1 of Smartphone best resolution pics on a Monitor screen.

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