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Dual SIM?

I've read that it will have a traditional SIM slot as well as the eSIM slot. Previous versions didn't allow them to be used simultaneously. Sounds like the 4 will allow that? I currently use a Note 9 international version with Dual-SIM in the US with T-Mobile & AT&T. Wondering if I purchase through T-Mobile (or direct from Google) - can I use them with the eSIM and AT&T with the nano SIM?
Thoughts? Guides? Links to more info? Much appreciated!

The word was it would be DSDS rather than DSSS. I've seen no confirmation of that yet although the commits are there and a Google engineer openly commented about ongoing testing. I'm hopeful but also looking for some confirmation.

Yes, it supports DSDS

MishaalRahman said:
Yes, it supports DSDS
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I understand you have the phone: Does the phone app allow you to select the line in the dialer ala Samsung or do you get a toast where you choose the line as on the Pixel 3a?

krabman said:
I understand you have the phone: Does the phone app allow you to select the line in the dialer ala Samsung or do you get a toast where you choose the line as on the Pixel 3a?
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Not 100% sure what you're asking but if you tell it to "ask every time" you dial then a screen will pop up asking you which sim you want to use when you dial a number. You can change that so that one is the default all the time but then to change the dialer sim you will need to go back into settings.

Yeah, that's the Pixel 3a method, I have one so I'm familiar with the options. Samsung has a similar base setup but if you don't set a default it puts 2 dial buttons in the dialer, one for each line. Doing that you can simply dial off of whichever line you want on the fly instead of having to select from the toast. It's a cleaner setup that saves a step. I've been hoping it made it in because it was an acknowledged feature request. Maybe next time...

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Yeah, that's the Pixel 3a method, I have one so I'm familiar with the options. Samsung has a similar base setup but if you don't set a default it puts 2 dial buttons in the dialer, one for each line. Doing that you can simply dial off of whichever line you want on the fly instead of having to select from the toast. It's a cleaner setup that saves a step. I've been hoping it made it in because it was an acknowledged feature request. Maybe next time...
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Oh got ya. That sounds cool. I'd like to see something like that. Definitely would save a bunch of dialing steps. The toast is problematic at times.

Has anyone gotten T-Mobile to work on eSIM with another carrier on a physical SIM? According to a XDA thread on Pixel 3a XL, they did this.

I have T-Mobile working on the physical sim and Fi working on the e-sim, but it's not simultaneously.

In Italy next week i will ne able to try a eSim... I will update you

Can confirm I could not transfer my eSIM to T-Mobile by giving EID. The tech support claimed it needs to be a T-Mobile bought phone. I bought an unlocked Pixel 4 xl. I wonder if the boot or system img tailored to the T-Mobile versions could get the eSIM to work.

TMobile does not support esim yet, according to TMobile. I tried to get a Tmobile purchased 4xl to use the esim.

So, if I'm GoogleFi I can have my GoogleFi account running from the eSim and also get an additional SIM from GoogleFi and have both slots active with Google Sims? Is that correct?
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localceleb said:
So, if I'm GoogleFi I can have my GoogleFi account running from the eSim and also get an additional SIM from GoogleFi and have both slots active with Google Sims? Is that correct?
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I know they are planning that but not sure if it's active yet. I thought I saw it coming in 2020 but perhaps they pulled the trigger already.

Dual connect for FI is not yet active on pixel 4/xl. The firmware is coming this or next month

tmatlack said:
I've read that it will have a traditional SIM slot as well as the eSIM slot. Previous versions didn't allow them to be used simultaneously. Sounds like the 4 will allow that? I currently use a Note 9 international version with Dual-SIM in the US with T-Mobile & AT&T. Wondering if I purchase through T-Mobile (or direct from Google) - can I use them with the eSIM and AT&T with the nano SIM?
Thoughts? Guides? Links to more info? Much appreciated!
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:good:

tmatlack said:
I've read that it will have a traditional SIM slot as well as the eSIM slot. Previous versions didn't allow them to be used simultaneously. Sounds like the 4 will allow that? I currently use a Note 9 international version with Dual-SIM in the US with T-Mobile & AT&T. Wondering if I purchase through T-Mobile (or direct from Google) - can I use them with the eSIM and AT&T with the nano SIM?
Thoughts? Guides? Links to more info? Much appreciated!
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What?
Is this true?
When?
Verizon allowing eSIM activation
AT&T and Verizon agree to change their eSIM practices

Homeboy76 said:
What?
Is this true?
When?
Verizon allowing eSIM activation
AT&T and Verizon agree to change their eSIM practices
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Believe it when I see it.

bobby janow said:
Believe it when I see it.
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Me too!

Finally esim support from Verizon

It appears the Pixel 4 finally have esim support on the Verizon network. I tried switching it over yesterday but the tech support was closed already. Will be doing first thing Monday morning.

bono81310 said:
It appears the Pixel 4 finally have esim support on the Verizon network. I tried switching it over yesterday but the tech support was closed already. Will be doing first thing Monday morning.
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Why did you need tech support? It looks pretty straightforward to me. Scan the code and install eSim number. I wonder if I can use a physical sim for one Verizon number and the eSim for another on Vzw. Then I can drop Fi finally.

I needed tech cause my current number is attached to an iPhone esim and I needed them to be able to transfer the number back to the Pixel.

bono81310 said:
I needed tech cause my current number is attached to an iPhone esim and I needed them to be able to transfer the number back to the Pixel.
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Are you sure about that? When I transferred my phone number to another phone via eSim it just asked for my phone number (I think.. now I'm not sure exactly) but I had the activated phone turned off and then just enabled eSim on the new phone and the phone number was there. The old phone eSim was deactivated. I think the message was something like if you install the eSim here then all other eSims will be deactivated. Maybe with Verizon the process is different but it's basically the same as switching physical sims. You take it out of one phone, put it in another and done. Heck, turn off the iPhone and try to activate the eSim on the Pixel see what happens. (easy for me to say lol)

bobby janow said:
Are you sure about that? When I transferred my phone number to another phone via eSim it just asked for my phone number (I think.. now I'm not sure exactly) but I had the activated phone turned off and then just enabled eSim on the new phone and the phone number was there. The old phone eSim was deactivated. I think the message was something like if you install the eSim here then all other eSims will be deactivated. Maybe with Verizon the process is different but it's basically the same as switching physical sims. You take it out of one phone, put it in another and done. Heck, turn off the iPhone and try to activate the eSim on the Pixel see what happens. (easy for me to say lol)
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I did have my iPhone on while trying. I will give your suggestions a try tonight. Thank you?

bono81310 said:
I did have my iPhone on while trying. I will give your suggestions a try tonight. Thank you?
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Thanks. Let us know the messages you get either positive or negative. I'm wanting to try this out too even though my situation is slightly different.

Could you post a link? I've checked on Verizon and there is nothing on using an eSim for the pixel 4. The only thing I see online is that the pixel 4 isn't compatible with eSim

https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/google-pixel-4-update/
Has to go through tier 2 tech support since no one knows what they are doing. Also, make sure you are updated to best software 200405.005. I didn't realize I wasn't updated when I tried and it wouldn't work, so will have them switch it tomorrow.

Spookymyo said:
Could you post a link? I've checked on Verizon and there is nothing on using an eSim for the pixel 4. The only thing I see online is that the pixel 4 isn't compatible with eSim
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Do a search for eSim Pixel 4 on the site then it will come up.
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bono81310 said:
https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/google-pixel-4-update/
Has to go through tier 2 tech support since no one knows what they are doing. Also, make sure you are updated to best software 200405.005. I didn't realize I wasn't updated when I tried and it wouldn't work, so will have them switch it tomorrow.
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Even from the link you posted it shows they're clueless. To have to go through that nonsense when it should only take a scan of QR code is absurd. I'll wait a few months for them to clear it up.

bobby janow said:
Do a search for eSim Pixel 4 on the site then it will come up.
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Even from the link you posted it shows they're clueless. To have to go through that nonsense when it should only take a scan of QR code is absurd. I'll wait a few months for them to clear it up.
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I agree. On an iPhone it's just a simple QR code scan and you're done. I'll wait until Verizon figures out how to do it right.

Last week I activated eSim with T-Mobile. I first had to call and tell the rep EID of my phone. Then I went to settings>network... and then next to mobile network, I tapped + sign and followed the steps. (I did open T-Mobile esim support page which had QR code or I could type some info myself.)

Charkatak said:
Last week I activated eSim with T-Mobile. I first had to call and tell the rep EID of my phone. Then I went to settings>network... and then next to mobile network, I tapped + sign and followed the steps. (I did open T-Mobile esim support page which had QR code or I could type some info myself.)
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Did this deactivate your physical SIM if you were using one prior?

Milly7 said:
Did this deactivate your physical SIM if you were using one prior?
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Yes, it did.
A day before, I put physical sim into an iPhone to test. Then next day I wanted to put the sim card back into my Pixel 4 and at that time I remembered about eSIM . Called T-Mobile and when the rep entered EID of my Pixel, he told that that the phone we talk on(iPhone) will get disconnected and it did. He did notify me if the sim is inserted into Pixel 4, to remove it... looks like it is best to remove the physical before connecting eSIM.

verizon Volte/wifi calling

If I buy the unlocked from the Google store will Volte and Wifi calling work? I've known in the passed unlocked ones it didn't.

My google store stock unlocked pixel 3xl works with verizon volte and wifi calling. Visual voicemail does not work, most likely because I am on prepaid.

Do you have to do anything special for Verizon volte and wificalling or will putting a SIM in unlocked pixel 5 just work? I am coming from Pixel2 with volte but not wificalling

You have to enable both separately in the mobile network settings. I don't recall having to do anything on the carrier side.

pcloadletter1 said:
You have to enable both separately in the mobile network settings. I don't recall having to do anything on the carrier side.
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I was wondering about this, too. I just pre-ordered two unlocked Pixel 5s. I couldn't figure out why anyone would buy the Verizon version vs the unlocked. Is it just to avoid doing configuration like this?

flamadiddle said:
I was wondering about this, too. I just pre-ordered two unlocked Pixel 5s. I couldn't figure out why anyone would buy the Verizon version vs the unlocked. Is it just to avoid doing configuration like this?
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You can just roll it into your monthly bill and pay over 2 years. No further credit checks either. Bootloader will most likely be locked forever though so buyer beware if you are into root. And if you wait until black Friday you can probably get a BOGO deal of some sort.

flamadiddle said:
I was wondering about this, too. I just pre-ordered two unlocked Pixel 5s. I couldn't figure out why anyone would buy the Verizon version vs the unlocked. Is it just to avoid doing configuration like this?
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I went ahead and just preorderd the Pixel 5 Unlocked from google. Hope it works especially wifi calling.

Verizon's HD voice, volte and wifi calling work fine on my wifes unlocked Pixel 3 XL and my unlocked Pixel 4 XL. The unlocked Pixel 5 will probably be the same.

Volte and wifi calling work. Hd calling needs to be activated in your vzw account. Wifi calling works but has to have the radio turned off.
Now for the $64 dollar question: vzw has there own version and it seems Google's version won't do 5G on vzw. Why....?

Larzzzz82 said:
Now for the $64 dollar question: vzw has there own version and it seems Google's version won't do 5G on vzw. Why....?
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Where did you see that? I haven't seen anything about this.

Let me see if I can find the article...

Larzzzz82 said:
Let me see if I can find the article...
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That is incorrect.

It's still not clear what/if anything will be different between the Google store Pixel 5 and the VZW Pixel 5. Well other than one being carrier locked.

bobby janow said:
That is incorrect.
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If course it is. I haven't found the source of my comment yet.... Where's yours?

Larzzzz82 said:
If course it is. I haven't found the source of my comment yet.... Where's yours?
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You first. You claimed it.

You're claiming I'm incorrect. Prove me wrong instead of some of some adolescent I asked first, 2s a bigger number, bs.
I did claim it. Now as the prosecutor, it's your job to prove me wrong....
Do you get a conviction or what?

Larzzzz82 said:
You're claiming I'm incorrect. Prove me wrong instead of some of some adolescent I asked first, 2s a bigger number, bs.
I did claim it. Now as the prosecutor, it's your job to prove me wrong....
Do you get a conviction or what?
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Don't be silly. Do your research and find it. You were wrong what you said that's all this is about. Don't make a bigger deal than it is. No one is attacking you or prosecuting you. If you can prove your statement then I'll say sorry. Done here.

radon222 said:
It's still not clear what/if anything will be different between the Google store Pixel 5 and the VZW Pixel 5. Well other than one being carrier locked.
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This article was updated on Oct. 6th, hopefully it will answer your question. I can't even imagine that a Google version will not support everything, there would be no point.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/...networks-your-pixel-5-or-pixel-4a-5g-can-use/

bobby janow said:
This article was updated on Oct. 6th, hopefully it will answer your question. I can't even imagine that a Google version will not support everything, there would be no point.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/...networks-your-pixel-5-or-pixel-4a-5g-can-use/
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The only difference mentioned in that article is with the 4a 5G unlocked vs Verizon edition. No mention of the Verizon Pixel 5.

flamadiddle said:
The only difference mentioned in that article is with the 4a 5G unlocked vs Verizon edition. No mention of the Verizon Pixel 5.
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I don't even know how I got involved with this discussion since I don't have 5G where I live but here I am anyway. So.. they actually do mention the Pixel 5 but as you say not the Verizon branded one. Reason being it doesn't matter whether you buy the P5 from VZW or not, they work identical. Here is the exact quote: "However, all U.S. Pixel 5 (model ID GD1YQ) and Verizon-sold Pixel 4a 5G (G6QU3) units will also be able to access high-band millimeter wave spectrum — supercharged throughput with extremely limited coverage." Which should probably put this part of the thread to rest.
As for wifi calling it was stated a few posts ago that you need to have the radio turned off for wifi calling to work. That is not the case, at least on my Google P4. Wifi calling is working whether or not I have the radio on or off. If the signal is good wifi calling is in effect.

Will my esim unlock also if I unlock the sim-lock with adb?

I unlocked my phone with
Google pixel 3a xl, 4 xl verizon sim unlock
1. Do a full reset without a SIM card, then do not insert the SIM and do not connect to the Internet configure and do not connect to the Internet until the end of the instructions. 2. Next, enable usb debugging in the developer settings. 3. Using...
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but not sure whether my esim will unlock also or not,pls helps!

Tommyelela said:
I unlocked my phone with
Google pixel 3a xl, 4 xl verizon sim unlock
1. Do a full reset without a SIM card, then do not insert the SIM and do not connect to the Internet configure and do not connect to the Internet until the end of the instructions. 2. Next, enable usb debugging in the developer settings. 3. Using...
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but not sure whether my esim will unlock also or not,pls helps!
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if it's verizon and they are still doing on the 5 what they did on the 3, then probably no. On the 3, pretty sure the way verizon avoided issues with people running off with their not fully paid phone (using esim) was to have them made without an esim chip.
do you have the box yer verizon came in? does it have an 'EID xxxxxx' on it? then no, pretty sure it cannot ever happen.
cheers

AsItLies said:
if it's verizon and they are still doing on the 5 what they did on the 3, then probably no. On the 3, pretty sure the way verizon avoided issues with people running off with their not fully paid phone (using esim) was to have them made without an esim chip.
do you have the box yer verizon came in? does it have an 'EID xxxxxx' on it? then no, pretty sure it cannot ever happen.
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I bought that on Kijiji,just got scammed *crying.It did happen,it asked me to have the QR code from verizon once I open the esim button...
But I wonder if it works fine with sim card or not?Like can I put att sim card in?cuz I am currently in EU,I bought this phone there.I found it works well with my eu sim card,but not sure about that.
And third quertion,can I use verizon's sim card ?And did the soft-adb unlock the 5G module as well?

AsItLies said:
if it's verizon and they are still doing on the 5 what they did on the 3, then probably no. On the 3, pretty sure the way verizon avoided issues with people running off with their not fully paid phone (using esim) was to have them made without an esim chip.
do you have the box yer verizon came in? does it have an 'EID xxxxxx' on it? then no, pretty sure it cannot ever happen.
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that's a whitelisted phone,probabily just didnt unlock it,I contacted verizon once,asked them whether they could unlock that for me or not,they insisted that I need to have the account lined up with the phone,they cant unlock it if I cant provide that..
There is no way to unlock the esim from career-lock?
best regards

@Tommyelela -- Every Verizon rep seems to give different info in my experience.
Bug the crap out of them until they give you the same answer multiple times.
Never know, best of luck!

Tommyelela said:
that's a whitelisted phone,probabily just didnt unlock it,I contacted verizon once,asked them whether they could unlock that for me or not,they insisted that I need to have the account lined up with the phone,they cant unlock it if I cant provide that..
There is no way to unlock the esim from career-lock?
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I'd suggest read this thread. Even if you manage to get the device carrier unlocked, again, doesn't appear as though the vzw versions have an esim chip in them. If that is true, then there's nothing anyone can do to make it work.
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AsItLies said:
I'd suggest read this thread. Even if you manage to get the device carrier unlocked, again, doesn't appear as though the vzw versions have an esim chip in them. If that is true, then there's nothing anyone can do to make it work.
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That is not true. The P5 is eSim enabled no matter the carrier. The link you provided is for the P3 which is a different animal. The first eSim enabled Verizon Pixel was the 3a.

bobby janow said:
That is not true. The P5 is eSim enabled no matter the carrier. The link you provided is for the P3 which is a different animal. The first eSim enabled Verizon Pixel was the 3a.
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I'm well aware the 3 is a diff animal, and said as much in my initial post. And indicated that 'if it was the same as the 3', because I don't have a 5 and have no idea if it is or not.
All I know is that the 3, the vzw version, you can't enable it. And it appears the reason is that it simply isn't there on the vzw version.
I repeat again, for those that don't bother to look at the eniter 'context' of the thread, my reference is to the 3, not the 5. I'm only guessing the 5 vzw may be the same. I don't know that it is.
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I'm well aware the 3 is a diff animal, and said as much in my initial post. And indicated that 'if it was the same as the 3', because I don't have a 5 and have no idea if it is or not.
All I know is that the 3, the vzw version, you can't enable it. And it appears the reason is that it simply isn't there on the vzw version.
I repeat again, for those that don't bother to look at the eniter 'context' of the thread, my reference is to the 3, not the 5. I'm only guessing the 5 vzw may be the same. I don't know that it is.
cheers
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I guess you didn't realize you were in a Pixel 5 forum. That's excusable.. I guess. Your assumption about the P5 being like the P3 is incorrect as I stated. The link you posted is.. oh forget it. Suffice it to say you have no idea what you are talking about. If you have a question about the P5 ask it here.

That was really helpful. Oh well.

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typical response, from an a-hole. I realized exactly where I was, and said so right up front. I didn't assume anything, only indicated that 'if it was like it', no asumptions.
and yes I have a very good idea of what I'm talking about, 100% certain.
and I now know another thing, exactly who to put on my ignore list.
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Username checks out

Question Esim support?

I'd like to upgrade my Samsung Fold, but I couldn't find any confirmation that Vivi X Fold supports esims. Does anyone know? I assume it's at least dual physical sim, right?

This phone does not support this feature

They don't but you can use 2 physical sims

AndroPlus said:
If you want to use eSIM, you can use eSIM.me card.
You can use the eSIM as a physical SIM card in any device, although the price is a bit high.
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That's really good to know!
Thanks

Thank you for the information
Very helpful