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playing around with girlfriends nextbook next2 android 1.5...there has got to be away to upgrade this toy isnt there?
Google it!
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have already done that as well as many other things just figured if anyone would know it would be someone here and you i can see have no clue but thanks for wasting my time
If you're gonna pout like a baby because someone didn't give you an answer and suggested doing something MOST people don't do before they ask a question then I am glad I could waste your time. Enjoy having some more of your time wasted by reading this post.
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wow dude thank god there are pros on this site like you
I know right? Haha
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really guys? to answer the question: apparently it is rooted and using universal anroot? it also runs the archos OS? this is what ive gathered so far...
not much info yet...
Before being rude, maybe some folks should take their own advice and 'google it' to see if there is actually any useful information available.
All I've found after weeks of extensive searching (and I even used a few sources other than the great god google, imagine that!) is that (a) it can be rooted with newer versions of 'universal androot' and (b) someone has suggested that it may be similar enough to one version of the Archos tablet to use that firmware although no one has reported that they've tried and succeeded, and (c) much unverified talk that the hardware isn't sufficient to run anything better than 1.5,
Also interesting and somewhat funny is that if you check the nextbook's website in the download section with Firefox you see only see a couple of software package upgrades, but check it with Internet Explorer and you get more info to the effect that upgrades are "Coming Soon!!!". "Soon' in this case being at least >= about 4 weeks.
An update to even Android 1.6 would be a big help. Unfortunately, with my very limited knowledge of Android/tablets/etc. I'm not ready to try it myself without reports of success from others. It's too useful as is to turn into a brick since there is a lot of software that does work on it (you just have to invest the time to look and try a lot of it to find the right stuff). You might even want to try 'google' to find slightly older (but working) versions of some apps.
Cheers, and good luck!
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I know right? Haha
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I just bought this device for $89 from Big Lots and I have been googling for the past hour. There's not much about this tablet or any of of the Nextbook products. For that reason also it's probably going back next week. My box says it comes with 2.1 so I assume there is at least an upgrade available from the site. I'd love to be able to reflash this and de-ebook it and have a general android tablet to self customize. It's got a dual core 600mhz.
Chances are if you can't find the info by a quick Google search then you are s**t outta luck. XDA isn't a place where you can magically find the solution to every tech issue you will ever encounter.
One rule of thumb i have when buying a device is whether it is popular enough to have good support from the dev community. If you buy without checking first it becomes a crap-shoot. If you owned a HD2 you would be in luck...but some random device, what are the odds?
Everything has a shelf-life and even the more popular devices will stop being supported eventually. Rather than adapting the device to suit your needs, why not adapt your needs to suit the device? It doesn't need to be running the latest and greatest software to be functional after all. People have converted old Win 98 PC's to be media servers, hardware firewalls, etc.
i also got one from biglots, and for $89 it does e-books, mp3 and video, web browsing with wifi and i can take my sd card out of my camera on vacation and view my photos and upload to facebook.
what more can you ask for for the price? it would be nice to root it and have a working .apk of market to install on it though
Nextbook 2 root and Market
I've been able to root my Nextbook 2 using freeware tools: Z4Root and Universal Androot. Even though I tried to make it permanent, it seems to revert to a non-rooted state when rebooted.
I'm still working on getting Google Market and other Google apps working. I'll post when I do.
For me, even just having a tablet with a web browser and book reader is worth the price. I used to try reading books and browsing the web on my Android phone, but the screen is just too small.
Rob
robbratton said:
I've been able to root my Nextbook 2 using freeware tools: Z4Root and Universal Androot. Even though I tried to make it permanent, it seems to revert to a non-rooted state when rebooted.
I'm still working on getting Google Market and other Google apps working. I'll post when I do.
For me, even just having a tablet with a web browser and book reader is worth the price. I used to try reading books and browsing the web on my Android phone, but the screen is just too small.
Rob
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I also bought from BigLots. I would be happy to learn how you used the freeware tools that you mentioned. Like others, I have searched for many days but can not find out even how to root it temporarily, let alone flash a new ROM. the tools seem to be out there, but how do you put them on the device?
Button combinations at power-on? Put the software on SD? I have done this with other devices, but they tell you how to go into recovery mode.
did a search and found NEXT2 Rom =)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=988740
is this not what you are looking for? I am wanting to buy the same thing, but know nothing about rooting a device so I came here looking for information. The above link is what I came across. Please respond if this is what works for the next2. Thanks!
Like others, I got one from Big Lots. $89! Oh, and it has android 2.1 on it!. I had also found the previously mentioned thread before this one. It has 86 pages of posts and most are NOT about the next2 (next3 and a few nearly identical devices with other names). Most of the ROMs posted there are for those other devices with a larger screen and therefore not useable on the next2. It does have some info on how to modify those for use with the next2.
Unfortunately, I haven't been able to identify exactly what is in the rom on page one of that thread. If anyone does load it, please id the os version, if it is fully rooted, and if it has the market app in it please. Probably a good thing to load if you have android 1.5 on your next2.
Oh, I haven't read even a third of the posts, but when I read more, if I find something useful, I will report back here.
Oh, and twitch351, if you don't want to help someone because you don't think they have put in time already, researching it, why don't you just ignore them rather than being a butthead about it? I HAVE been doing the research, and you were wasting my time too.
What happened to it in the app store? I saw it on there one day with two bad reviews and now it's gone. Do they take reviews seriously or possibly a fix was needed?
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What happened to it in the app store? I saw it on there one day with two bad reviews and now it's gone. Do they take reviews seriously or possibly a fix was needed?
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Reguardless of what they say, it WILL NOT work on your G-Tab. I'm in the process of working with their customer support over the issue it requires a IMEI number on your tablet (wich the G-tab does not have). Save your money!!!
I've actually tried it on several of the roms here and none of them seem to work with it. I'll update everyone when and IF they get this resolved for me.
I bought the USA only version from the market and it wouldn't download the maps. I emailed support and they sent me a link to the 1.13Gb file. Took 5.5 hours to download. It is working great for me, though. I'm on Vegan 5.1.1. They send the actual key a few days later. That activates it. When you first buy it I think it is only good for 15 days, until activated.
Working great on my gtab. Using the newest version from the market place.
I guess it's a hit or miss. I purchased the US version from the app store and it will not go past the check for an IMEI number. Their customer support has proven useless as they first told me they had escallated my problem to their engineering dept. and now I see they have marked my problem as SOLVED with no communcaiton to me at all.
copilot runs great on my GTab. I started with an older version and upgraded, so maybe thats the difference, but it runs no problems. I know me saying that doesn't help at all, in fact its probably a bit of salt in the wound as it were, but it may help to know it is possible.
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copilot runs great on my GTab. I started with an older version and upgraded, so maybe thats the difference, but it runs no problems. I know me saying that doesn't help at all, in fact its probably a bit of salt in the wound as it were, but it may help to know it is possible.
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Glad it runs for you... actually, you've been a LOT more help than their tech support. They keep saying, uninstall the program, delete the copilot folder on the sdcard and then reinstall. Same results everytime.
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copilot runs great on my GTab. I started with an older version and upgraded, so maybe thats the difference, but it runs no problems. I know me saying that doesn't help at all, in fact its probably a bit of salt in the wound as it were, but it may help to know it is possible.
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I was wondering if you could post your DeviceInfo.xml file from the \copilot\save folder? Their tech support keeps asking me for mine and I've sent it to them twice. I'd like to compare mine to yours to see where they are differnt. Or, if you'd rather not post it, could you look at it and see what it has for the Isphone and IMEI settings (<Isphone> and <IMEI>)? I'd really appreciate it.
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I was wondering if you could post your DeviceInfo.xml file from the \copilot\save folder? Their tech support keeps asking me for mine and I've sent it to them twice. I'd like to compare mine to yours to see where they are differnt. Or, if you'd rather not post it, could you look at it and see what it has for the Isphone and IMEI settings (<Isphone> and <IMEI>)? I'd really appreciate it.
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Have they not given you a license key? While I bought my CO-Pilot a long time ago, from the website, and not the market, I understood that even market purchases resulted in a license key being e-mailed to you??
Once you have that key, you can use the .504 version.
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Have they not given you a license key? While I bought my CO-Pilot a long time ago, from the website, and not the market, I understood that even market purchases resulted in a license key being e-mailed to you??
Once you have that key, you can use the .504 version.
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Here is the discussion I've had with them concerning the product key:
Me:
Here is an update. I was able to get a previous version of the software. It is version 8.2.0.504. It installed fine and got past the IMEI error. Howerver, it is asking for a product number and I cannot find any reference to a product number on my receipt from the app market. Can you tell me where to find this? I'll be happy to use this earlier version if we can make it work.
CS:
Unfortunately, since you were never able to activate the device we never issued you a product key. And I can not give you one cause you purchased it through the Android Marketplace. I am very sorry.
Me:
When can I expect to hear of a solution to fix the copy I did buy then? I really want the software but if you cannot get it to work on my device, what are my options? Is there a way to purchase this outside of the app market so that I can get a working product id code?
CS:
You can purchase the $19.99 Northa America version from our webstore but I would hate for you to buy that and still have the same problems. We will get back to you as soon as we can about this issue. We appreciate your patience.
Little do they know that my patience is wearing thin!!!!
'Wearing' thin... I would have long since been 'worn'
I am guessing from their reply, that the activation process is what generates the key?
Here is an idea. Do you have access to another Android device (phone?) that you can install/activate the app on? If that generates your key, you can then de-activate that device (important step!) and then run .504 on the tablet.
While I did not do this intentionally, that's basically how it worked for me.
I purchased Co-Pilot 8 in late 2009 I think (maybe 2010), from their web-site for Windows Mobile. I later ditched WinMo for the Droid X. I de-activated my WinMoDevice, installed the Co-pilot app on my DX and activated it there.
Later, when I got the Tablet, I de-activated the DX license, and setup on the G-Tab.
Other than the most recent versions giving me IMEI errors, I've not had any trouble installing with my key.
Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
'Wearing' thin... I would have long since been 'worn'
I am guessing from their reply, that the activation process is what generates the key?
Here is an idea. Do you have access to another Android device (phone?) that you can install/activate the app on? If that generates your key, you can then de-activate that device (important step!) and then run .504 on the tablet.
While I did not do this intentionally, that's basically how it worked for me.
I purchased Co-Pilot 8 in late 2009 I think (maybe 2010), from their web-site for Windows Mobile. I later ditched WinMo for the Droid X. I de-activated my WinMoDevice, installed the Co-pilot app on my DX and activated it there.
Later, when I got the Tablet, I de-activated the DX license, and setup on the G-Tab.
Other than the most recent versions giving me IMEI errors, I've not had any trouble installing with my key.
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Yes, I guess you have to actually activate the software on your tablet before you get your Product ID. So, I'm in that Catch 22 loop. Unfortunately I don't have an android phone. Windows Phone 7 here. I guess I'll wait to see if they can get me an answer. I'm planning on picking up a Transformer as soon as they come back in stock so maybe it will work on it.
My 73 year old dad is a proud new owner of a new Nook HD tablet. I am not sure if the gift was a mistake for him because it's just too big a leap of technology at this point. He just asked me, what is WiFi? Lol. I also unfortunately bought this with very little knowledge myself of nook and their OS, so that doesn't work in our favor either.
I still think there's going to be at least a few things he'll be able to do on it that will make his life better. My main thoughts are: reading, playing bridge, checking email, Facebook, browse the web. Any other easy things he "should" do on it, I would love to hear.
Since I won't be able to help support this very much after I set it up for him, I am wondering what experienced users on this tablet recommend doing with it visa vi setup? Should I leave it stock or flash an android ROM to it? Whatever is going to function the best and not cause him to deal with ANYTHING he might have to troubleshoot is what I think would be best for him. He's obviously going to be confused at times, and I just want to be able to show him how to do as many basic things as possible that keeps him using the device and makes it something useful for him.
Any advice at all greatly appreciated, since I don't own a nook myself educating me to help him will go a long ways for him too.
Thanks for your time!
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Honestly, if your dad is not tech savvy then I'd suggest leaving it as stock. It's a perfectly fine tablet as is for an entry-level use, certainly enough to read, check e-mail/Facebook, browse web, etc.
Plus if anything goes wrong with it, then he can always take it in to a B&N store and they can troubleshoot for him without any confusion about ROMs and such.
My 70 year old mother-in-law has a Nook HD Plus and has no issues now. She was a bit confused at first but now she gets it. She rarely asks me anything now. I left her stock she doesn't know it can run faster and if there are any issues I don't have to worry about her walking into a Barnes and Nobel with a rooted system.
Great, stock it is! Thanks
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Dillsnik said:
My 73 year old dad is a proud new owner of a new Nook HD tablet. I am not sure if the gift was a mistake for him because it's just too big a leap of technology at this point. He just asked me, what is WiFi? Lol. I also unfortunately bought this with very little knowledge myself of nook and their OS, so that doesn't work in our favor either.
I still think there's going to be at least a few things he'll be able to do on it that will make his life better. My main thoughts are: reading, playing bridge, checking email, Facebook, browse the web. Any other easy things he "should" do on it, I would love to hear.
Since I won't be able to help support this very much after I set it up for him, I am wondering what experienced users on this tablet recommend doing with it visa vi setup? Should I leave it stock or flash an android ROM to it? Whatever is going to function the best and not cause him to deal with ANYTHING he might have to troubleshoot is what I think would be best for him. He's obviously going to be confused at times, and I just want to be able to show him how to do as many basic things as possible that keeps him using the device and makes it something useful for him.
Any advice at all greatly appreciated, since I don't own a nook myself educating me to help him will go a long ways for him too.
Thanks for your time!
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I set one up very recently for a friend's dad who had suffered a stroke . I've set up countless Android tablets but not a nook before. I basically left it stock but I installed Nova launcher prime as I didn't like all the junk BN had put on the home screen. I didn't like the carousel and I didn't like that you could not create folders on the screen. After installing the launcher, I left on the home screen a five day HD weather widget, an internet folders containing Chrome and one other back up browser, Facebook, email, radio and you tube. a second folder with various type of games. Third folder with reading apps which could access his e-books. There is nothing else he need to know about. Showed him to press the n button should he find himself in a strange page or settings.
Never have I felt like such a google fan boy till I got this 7" tablet from amazon.
My SO purchased one during the black friday deal for her mom. It just showed up and I dont know what this thing is. I own a nexus 6 that I have been learning how to flash custom features too, so I understand that concept. But when I got this Fire 7" running I go to install chrome, and nothing? I am out of the loop here. I was told to do what ever it is I do to these smartthings before it leaves for no mans land Ketchikan AK.
I must admit, I am out of the loop with this device, never thought I'd be using one. Thought it would be more similar to lollipop than it is. What do I need to know? I'd like to be able to trouble shoot the device through a remote connection if there is ever a problem.
Running Fire OS 5.1.1.
Looking down at the lock screen... theres ads?
Please ELI5.
Thanks for reading
I don't know if its possible to install the Google play services to use certain Google apps on 5.1.1 you'd have to try it for yourself. I'm OTA blocked on 5.0.1 so I have full Google play store
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I just side loaded the play store and it worked fine on 5.1.1
Also you can root 5.1.1 now
Hamm1701 said:
My SO purchased one during the black friday deal for her mom. It just showed up and I dont know what this thing is. I own a nexus 6 that I have been learning how to flash custom features too, so I understand that concept. But when I got this Fire 7" running I go to install chrome, and nothing? I am out of the loop here. I was told to do what ever it is I do to these smartthings before it leaves for no mans land Ketchikan AK.
I must admit, I am out of the loop with this device, never thought I'd be using one. Thought it would be more similar to lollipop than it is. What do I need to know? I'd like to be able to trouble shoot the device through a remote connection if there is ever a problem.
Running Fire OS 5.1.1.
Looking down at the lock screen... theres ads?
Please ELI5.
Thanks for reading
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It is completely possible... Just download the Google Apps Zip from this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/installing-google-framework-playstore-t3216122
Then, put the APKs on your fire tablet. Easiest way is to extract, then put on onedrive, then install onedrive on phone and download.
Next, make sure to install in THIS ORDER:
1.) Google Account manager
2.) Google Play Services
3.) Google Services Framework
4.) Google Play Store
There should be one duplicate APK in there. It doesn't matter which one you use, worst case, it will update itself. Hope this works for you like it did for me!
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It is completely possible... Just download the Google Apps Zip from this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/installing-google-framework-playstore-t3216122
Then, put the APKs on your fire tablet. Easiest way is to extract, then put on onedrive, then install onedrive on phone and download.
Next, make sure to install in THIS ORDER:
1.) Google Account manager
2.) Google Play Services
3.) Google Services Framework
4.) Google Play Store
There should be one duplicate APK in there. It doesn't matter which one you use, worst case, it will update itself. Hope this works for you like it did for me!
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Thanks for the tips! This tablet feels like some odd offspring of iOS and kitkat.
Hamm1701 said:
Thanks for the tips! This tablet feels like some odd offspring of iOS and kitkat.
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Love the tablet best £50 I've ever spent £35 was a steal black friday
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You can use the new, just posted supertool to do everything. Be aware that blocking OTA via the supertool may not currently work on 5.1.1, give them a little time & it will likely be fixed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/development/amazon-fire-5th-gen-supertool-root-t3272695/
Do not send off the Fire until OTA is blocked. Failure to block OTA will likely result in amazon undoing anything you've down to the Fire (& potentially locking out future mods) when the next OTA update appears.
tonyt3rry said:
Love the tablet best £50 I've ever spent £35 was a steal black friday
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Yea, $35, and a little bit of time, it'll be a good buy.
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You can use the new, just posted supertool to do everything. Be aware that blocking OTA via the supertool may not currently work on 5.1.1, give them a little time & it will likely be fixed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/development/amazon-fire-5th-gen-supertool-root-t3272695/
Do not send off the Fire until OTA is blocked. Failure to block OTA will likely result in amazon undoing anything you've down to the Fire (& potentially locking out future mods) when the next OTA update appears.
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Finding the com.amazon.device.software.ota file in ES explorer with root access and renaming it should be pretty simple after the tool roots it.
Tool updated already anyway
I'm currently running Pure Nexus and like many/most custom roms it has GA enabled but the other 2 phones in my house are stock Nexus 6P's and neither have received the update yet. One I signed up for the beta program and it downloaded and installed the 7.1.2 beta but no GA. Then I read today that it'll be a Google Play Services update that enables GA across MM/Nougat devices so I updated Play Services to the latest beta and still no GA. So, what do you know, what do you hear?? My wife and son really want GA but want to stay stock. Their tired of me messing with their phones.
Running stock, no root. Latest GPS and Google App and nothing
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I'm currently running Pure Nexus and like many/most custom roms it has GA enabled but the other 2 phones in my house are stock Nexus 6P's and neither have received the update yet. One I signed up for the beta program and it downloaded and installed the 7.1.2 beta but no GA. Then I read today that it'll be a Google Play Services update that enables GA across MM/Nougat devices so I updated Play Services to the latest beta and still no GA. So, what do you know, what do you hear?? My wife and son really want GA but want to stay stock. Their tired of me messing with their phones.
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I am enrolled in the beta program... Running Pure Nexus... 2-15...
I clean flashes the other day after thinking about switching Roms... And for the first time I did not have to revert the build.prop line to train the assistant...
Google App 6.14.12.21.arm
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Running stock, no root. Latest GPS and Google App and nothing
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Thanks for the reply. Kind of strange that a weekend ago Google announced it wound start hitting capable phone starting last week in the US first yet it seems no one has received the update.
I'm on a Nexus 6P, never rooted, in the Beta program with 7.1.2. I'm also in the Google Play Services beta program. I have installed the Pixel Launcher from APK but otherwise stock. So far no Assistant. Live in the US.
Still no assistant here either. Are we missing something, or has Google not actually released the update like they said they would? I don't know of anyone that has actually received it to this point.
It's a server side switch and in typical Google form, they are turning it on very slowly. These trickle rollouts of new features are ridiculous. Either it's ready for release or it's not. If it is, release it to everyone. If it's not, then don't announce anything until it's ready.
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It's a server side switch and in typical Google form, they are turning it on very slowly. These trickle rollouts of new features are ridiculous. Either it's ready for release or it's not. If it is, release it to everyone. If it's not, then don't announce anything until it's ready.
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I have been searching for anyone who has had it turned on. I follow a FB forum as well where every little update usually gets posted. Nothing there yet either. Hearing of others getting it turned on would at least be encouraging.
calec70 said:
I have been searching for anyone who has had it turned on. I follow a FB forum as well where every little update usually gets posted. Nothing there yet either. Hearing of others getting it turned on would at least be encouraging.
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Thats what I was thinking. A week ago the tech sites were a buzz with "Google Assistant coming to most 6.0+ phones this week". Then nothing. All week. I'm still wondering a full week later why the tech sites are almost silent and no one is asking "Ok Google, what gives".
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Thats what I was thinking. A week ago the tech sites were a buzz with "Google Assistant coming to most 6.0+ phones this week". Then nothing. All week. I'm still wondering a full week later why the tech sites are almost silent and no one is asking "Ok Google, what gives".
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Someone in the FB group received Assistant about an hour after installing the latest Google App beta APK. I just tried it. Probably a coincidence, but at least someone has reported getting Assistant.
Isn't this linked to the google play services apk? If someone gets it, wouldn't posting the apk give it to all of us?
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Isn't this linked to the google play services apk? If someone gets it, wouldn't posting the apk give it to all of us?
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You have to have the correct Play Services but Google still has to "turn it on" on their end. That seems to be what is taking so long. As long as your Play Services are up to date you should be good. I entered the beta program for that as well. Still no Assistant though.
Mine was activated yesterday, right around the time I updated to the 7.1.1 March security patch. Don't know if there's a direct relation though.
I just got it today, I had everything updated and it showed up on its own.
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Just got it a little bit ago.
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Just got it a little bit ago.
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Yay:victory:
Thanks for the replies everyone. Looks like we're very slowly but surely on our way. Still no GA love for the 2 stock 6P's in my house yet.
Edit: P.S. I didn't start this thread to complain, I was just wondering if I was the only one not receiving the GA update. I can only imagine what a mind blowing amount of mega giga google flops of computing power it must take for what must be thousands (if not tens of thousands) of questions per second via voice, interpret it, then send the answer back. All within a second or 2. For the thousands or tens or thousands of users asking/interacting at the same time. Mind boggling. It's probably a very slow rollout to be able to keep up and ramp up for the onslaught until they get a full picture of what the new computing/server farm needs will be.
My Nexus 6 has it, my wife's 6p does not.
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Just got it guys. Running LOs, Google app ver. 6.13.25.21, and Google Play Services ver. 10.2.99, location Kosovo. It feels great not to do so many workarounds just to have it
East coast rolled out 32GB.
Still Waiting as well
I am still waiting as well. February 5 Security Patch, Google(Beta) 6.14.14.21.arm and Play Services 10.2.98.
Like so many others I signed up for Play Services Beta, but unlike the others I never got a bump up (update), and Still have not received the March Security Update.
But I swear if I don't side load most things from Google I am the last to get them.