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I have a new T-Mobile Note 4 (that I'm using on AT&T) and the phone is quite fast, but I enjoy tweaking and am planning to root the phone for Xposed and a few other things, so I was also thinking about flashing a new ROM.
I also use GearVR so I need a compatible (TouchWiz?) ROM and was thinking about FireKat.
Does it really make that big of a difference?
I'm more concerned about performance than battery life, but of course battery life is important too.
Yes, it makes a huge difference.
To go into a bit more detail for ya, yes they do help. Most of the custom roms have been de-bloated and tweaked for "power users" for lack of a better term. They have been adjusted to allow better usability and eliminate some of the useless features. Some devs (not all, be sure to do your research and read the boards) but extra effort into making their roms perform better and allow customization. Be warned though, from my experience, with more customizations and tweaks to appearance you will take a hit to performance.
Thanks very much for the help.
It seems like a lot of ROMs are tweaked for battery life and I often wonder if the performance isn't that good as a result.
sofakng said:
Thanks very much for the help.
It seems like a lot of ROMs are tweaked for battery life and I often wonder if the performance isn't that good as a result.
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FireKat is tweaked for both performance and battery life. My phone is 10 times faster than stock with FireKat V9 and the good battery life is a nice side effect. Make sure your follow the instructions in the first and second posts for maximum performance/battery life.
Maybe everyone can submit performance benchmarks here.
how about this, I used Nova Launcher when im not rooted but when I am rooted (like now running firekat) im on TW all the way.
Don't go by benchmarks, go by feel. Like someone said above read through the different Dev posts and in most, people have done what your talking about and posted numbers. To the original poster, FireKat is awesome. Mega does an incredible job and its definitely worth trying his efforts if you don't mind flashing. The speed difference as well as battery performance is nothing short of incredible on this device. I've tried many different ROMs and always come back to this one.
Of course your experience may vary, but that's what's so awesome is the ability to try a different ROM. Like you, I have a TMobile Note 4 on AT&T. Fortunately for us there are many talented devs for this phone which gives us many options. Give them a try and see for yourself, and trust me, you won't be disappointed.
Just do yourself a favor and don't go by benchmark numbers, and go by what you feel is the fastest and smoothest. Numbers are artificial and change so often that it's much better in my opinion to feel for yourself.
Good luck and enjoy the device man, it's awesome.
I am a power user. I have a gear vr. None of the custom ROMs support vr. I have a backup nandroid of stock ROM, whenever I want to use vr, I nandrood back to it. Daily driver is cm12.
This is my benchmark score anyway.
http://imgur.com/aMxJEac
Touch above 50k using the latest cm12 build.
This is the smoothest running ROM I've used.
Most stable is firekat for sure.
Ugh. Gear VR doesn't work on FireKat?
I've been reading the thread and it says that it would work with a custom kernel. Has anybody tried that?
yes, it's my favorite ROM so far.
lamuertex said:
This is my benchmark score anyway.
http://imgur.com/aMxJEac
Touch above 50k using the latest cm12 build.
This is the smoothest running ROM I've used.
Most stable is firekat for sure.
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I checked ur screen shot, how are you getting lte? is there a fix on cm12?
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I checked ur screen shot, how are you getting lte? is there a fix on cm12?
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I haven't had connectivity issues like some may be experiencing.
sofakng said:
I have a new T-Mobile Note 4 (that I'm using on AT&T) and the phone is quite fast, but I enjoy tweaking and am planning to root the phone for Xposed and a few other things, so I was also thinking about flashing a new ROM.
I also use GearVR so I need a compatible (TouchWiz?) ROM and was thinking about FireKat.
Does it really make that big of a difference?
I'm more concerned about performance than battery life, but of course battery life is important too.
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If you want to speed up the appearance of your phone...make it snappier....go into Developer settings and reduce all animations to 0.5 or turn them off completely. It makes a big difference.
Firekat + AEL kernal = ROM bliss with VR function.
Face_Plant said:
FireKat is tweaked for both performance and battery life. My phone is 10 times faster than stock with FireKat V9 and the good battery life is a nice side effect. Make sure your follow the instructions in the first and second posts for maximum performance/battery life.
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Really ten times? Not even close to twice as fast, maybe half as fast. While Firekat and Dynamic Rom are faster than stock touchwiz......Slim roms or Cyanogenmod are the only thing that REALLY speed up the phone. Touchwiz will always be touchwiz
It's more of a speed upgrade than that. Mega has been tweaking the speed for 9 versions. He's got skills.
Do any of the ROMs speed up gaming at all?
For example, I also have an iPhone 6 Plus and several games are silky smooth on it (Galaxy On Fire 2 HD, Terraria, Shadowgun), but on the Note 4 the performance is much lower. It's not horrible, but it's nowhere near as smooth as iOS. (note: this isn't meant to disrespect Android or the Note 4, but I'm honestly wondering about the difference because I have both phones and compare them side-by-side)
I think what you may really be looking for is a custom kernel. A lot of them are in original android development. I can link you to others.
I'm testing hyperdrive rom today on this phone, however and just downloaded those games. Very zippy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2919441
We'll pretend you didn't just admit you have an iPhone.
Hi, I open that thread to know yours opinion about battery consumption in each version of FIRMWARES.
I get the impression that .93 is receiving less power than .77
What do you think ?
Hard to tell. There's a bug in 23.0.1.A.5.77, and the phone/SMS radios will go to sleep under some circumstances on LTE data. A lot of AT&T users have to run that build in WCDMA which uses less juice. So you can't really compare battery consumption apples to apples.
The battery in this thing is bulletproof unless an app happens to hang, but you can usually tell the phone is getting warm before it runs down too far. I for one am very satisfied with it.
For me it's a bit different. I jumped from 23.0.1.A.1.49/R13B straight to 23.0.1.A.5.77. Because my phone has come with stock HK custom firmware and damn it they don't release newer versions for some reason. I didn't knew that before the new rooting method finally came out. So what I've done is to flash a Singapore custom firmware and then made the rooting procedure.
And about the battery thing, I must say I feel the .77 firmware has much better stand-by performance on my Z3 compact. Much better. And since I gained root along with the upgrading, it's hard to say how much impact the firmware actually has on the battery improvement. Because by gaining root access, I'm able to install greenify and xposed to help saving battery.
But overall, the firmware does improve battery for me.
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Hey XDA,
my Z3 broke and my insurance gave me 500€ to get a new phone so i got the Nexus 6 32GB Blue for 490 € at my workplace.
Before my Z3 i had many different Phones like the S5, LG G3, NEXUS 5, HTC ONE m7 and more
Well what mostly use me device for is communication, A LOT (LOT LOT³) OF Fn READING (Manga and Reddit Sync) and hearing my music on the way to school/work/whatever .
I am a experienced user with roms and flashing but with this new device i just want to flash something daily driver friendly but feature heavy rom and a good battery conserving kernel
So far ive looked around for some roms available here and already choosen the
CHROMA Rom because it seems to be popular here (Not sure why ?!) (What is "Layers" ?)
and the Vindicator Kernel because it looks very promising (Not sure if its the case tho) and it has a lot of features (for a kernel..)
So what do you guys use and show me some screens of your themes becuase i like the possibilty to use the cm theme engine
Thanks
RainbowSix
For stability.. Chroma/hellscore kernel
Or use the JDX based on latest android M which is pretty stable too but you may encounter few bugs
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For stability.. Chroma/hellscore kernel
Or use the JDX based on latest android M which is pretty stable too but you may encounter few bugs
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What bugs may i encounter ?
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are YOU running on your Nexus 6??? thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
danarama said:
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are YOU running on your Nexus 6??? thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
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Wow thats an awesome and big post with a lot of tought from you, thanks
I never asked for a best rom/kernel.. just your recommendation and im sorry that i didnt see the other thread you showed me
Do you have a tutorial for kernel settings ? because i didnt have a nexus for a long time now i never messed with kernel settings that much
And what is your opinion on my choosen rom/kernel ? what are you using and why ?
rainbowsixpro1 said:
Wow thats an awesome and big post with a lot of tought from you, thanks
I never asked for a best rom/kernel.. just your recommendation and im sorry that i didnt see the other thread you showed me
Do you have a tutorial for kernel settings ? because i didnt have a nexus for a long time now i never messed with kernel settings that much
And what is your opinion on my choosen rom/kernel ? what are you using and why ?
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No worries, but recommendations kind of fall under "best" in a way anyway and it is all subjective.
FWIW, I like to use Slim Alpha and ElementalX kernel.
As for tweaks, it all depends what you want. Performance Versus Battery. Easiest thing to tweak is the governor settings. Some governors will allow you to change the Up Threshold. The % of CPU load before it steps up to a higher frequency. Set the up threshold high, it will stay at a lower frequency for longer, of course that impacts performance.
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No worries, but recommendations kind of fall under "best" in a way anyway and it is all subjective.
FWIW, I like to use Slim Alpha and ElementalX kernel.
As for tweaks, it all depends what you want. Performance Versus Battery. Easiest thing to tweak is the governor settings. Some governors will allow you to change the Up Threshold. The % of CPU load before it steps up to a higher frequency. Set the up threshold high, it will stay at a lower frequency for longer, of course that impacts performance.
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Well i am thinking to go battery but not 100%. but more like 80%
Problem is i dont know what the apps need to work fluid (or not?)
With recommendation i meant something like this
"AWESOME DUDE, I HAVE A NEXUS 6 WITH ROM X AND KERNEL X AND USE IT FOR DD AND LOTS READING
ITS WORKING LIKE A CHARM NEVER hv HAPPIER BEFORE BECAUSE THIS DOES THAT AND THAT DOES THIS"
sounds stupid, i know but maybe someone else using the N6 is in the same scenario as i am.
Got some good news 3 hrs from now i will hold a fresh Nexus 6 in my handy and now someone is offering me a GS6 32GBlack for exchange xD
GOT IT GOT IT GOT IT earlier but happy about this new awesome toy to play with
Hi, i don't know if it's just me(i guess so) but after nougat update, my phone's battery life became worse. I have the 920T version and if with marshmallow i was charging it once at the end of the day, now i'm charging it twice a day and i didn't use any new app after the update. I used once the nougat version of the ported note 7 rom and the battery life was even better than on marshmallow so now i feel a bit confused why the official update for me has this result.... do you recommend to install a custom rom to fix this issue or there is another way(which i don't know why i didn't try) to fix the battery issue? thanks
Dont expect much of Nougat, the firmware is full of bugs, however you can try a custom ROM and see for yourself, everybody has a different phone usage and your battery also depends of your carrier quality in your zone. Ive tried almost every nougat ROM . and the best battery-friendly are NDroid-ModV7(by far, but wait to V8) and DrKetans N8, Hope it gets better
Hello, I have not been on this site in YEARS!! Much love and respect community. I just got my first ever Asus Rogue 2 and it is a WW model.
Is it as easy as downloading a rom, zip file, reboot? Does the majority recommend the android 10 rom.... or please, if their is someone that done a lot of work and they have a killer rom.... please. save me some time.
I wanna get a new fresh vibe on the device. Thanks in advance
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Hello, I have not been on this site in YEARS!! Much love and respect community. I just got my first ever Asus Rogue 2 and it is a WW model.
Is it as easy as downloading a rom, zip file, reboot? Does the majority recommend the android 10 rom.... or please, if their is someone that done a lot of work and they have a killer rom.... please. save me some time.
I wanna get a new fresh vibe on the device. Thanks in advance
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As of now, A10 latest is 2004.60 for WW.
Stock Android 9 on this device has the best battery and least temperatures. You can get 15-20 hours SOT (at 60hz) depending upon your usage. Is also really stable. Games work perfectly on A9. This is the best ROM for endurance and gaming on this phone.
Stock A10 has kinda worse battery and heats up more. SOT is like 11-15 hours (60hz) depending upon usage. Games are slightly less optimised, but nonetheless you get all the features this device provides.
Coming to custom ROMs, Omni ROM (A10) has excellent battery life. Almost as good as A9. Excellent stable UI. But you loose air triggers, and it isn't good for gaming.
HavocOS has battery life similar to Stock A10, and has the best aesthetics. More customisation than Omni. Again, no air triggers and not so good for gaming.
Choice is upto you.
It is recommended to stay at a9 i have tested all android 10 and a9 is much more better a10 sucks for this phone unfortunately.
On A10 I'm taking like 10-15% less battery than A9, winning some different things like Quickswitch (if you are rooted) and the traditional patches and features, so I'm staying in A10. But A9 is a bit better in battery, yep.
Just to add my two cents to confuse the OP even more over which rom version to use...
I'm also on A10 latest 2004.60 and don't have any heating issues, never have A9 or 10. I don't really monitor battery much at all but there's not much difference between A9 and latest 10 with my usage. With a battery this big it isn't a concern of mine. With my average usage lasting 2 days (I mainly only play Bike Race for games).
So yeah, I'm happy to stay on A10.
It's probably also worth noting (although I've not tried any custom rom on this device, so you'll need to check), if you are gonna use Havoc or Omni, you will need to have latest stock build flashed before flashing those roms.
Let us know what you decide... Good luck
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As of now, A10 latest is 2004.60 for WW.
Stock Android 9 on this device has the best battery and least temperatures. You can get 15-20 hours SOT (at 60hz) depending upon your usage. Is also really stable. Games work perfectly on A9. This is the best ROM for endurance and gaming on this phone.
Stock A10 has kinda worse battery and heats up more. SOT is like 11-15 hours (60hz) depending upon usage. Games are slightly less optimised, but nonetheless you get all the features this device provides.
Coming to custom ROMs, Omni ROM (A10) has excellent battery life. Almost as good as A9. Excellent stable UI. But you loose air triggers, and it isn't good for gaming.
HavocOS has battery life similar to Stock A10, and has the best aesthetics. More customisation than Omni. Again, no air triggers and not so good for gaming.
Choice is upto you.
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Just to be clear, the stock asus experience.... is the best overall experience? Thanks!
reg66 said:
Just to add my two cents to confuse the OP even more over which rom version to use...
I'm also on A10 latest 2004.60 and don't have any heating issues, never have A9 or 10. I don't really monitor battery much at all but there's not much difference between A9 and latest 10 with my usage. With a battery this big it isn't a concern of mine. With my average usage lasting 2 days (I mainly only play Bike Race for games).
So yeah, I'm happy to stay on A10.
It's probably also worth noting (although I've not tried any custom rom on this device, so you'll need to check), if you are gonna use Havoc or Omni, you will need to have latest stock build flashed before flashing those roms.
Let us know what you decide... Good luck
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I am high darn, so.... I have no problem trying things... and I expect the usual bumps..... but if it changes or ruins the experience, why would I do this?
That being said, how do I get stock 10 on my device then boys?? thanks again
I tried a few things but when I get to recovery there is NO options aside from reboot, wipe.
I did the unlock tool. I put files on root of phone, but I cannot see or access them. What am i missing
Mr.Kakarot said:
I tried a few things but when I get to recovery there is NO options aside from reboot, wipe.
I did the unlock tool. I put files on root of phone, but I cannot see or access them. What am i missing
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Dude you're gonna have get used to reading up on stuff. It's been posted tons of times on updating to this version or that version
reg66 said:
Just to add my two cents to confuse the OP even more over which rom version to use...
I'm also on A10 latest 2004.60 and don't have any heating issues, never have A9 or 10. I don't really monitor battery much at all but there's not much difference between A9 and latest 10 with my usage. With a battery this big it isn't a concern of mine. With my average usage lasting 2 days (I mainly only play Bike Race for games).
So yeah, I'm happy to stay on A10.
It's probably also worth noting (although I've not tried any custom rom on this device, so you'll need to check), if you are gonna use Havoc or Omni, you will need to have latest stock build flashed before flashing those roms.
Let us know what you decide... Good luck
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Thinking exactly the same right here. Small differences between both just to downgrade. For me, as I said, 10-15%. If I want that % loosing the smoothness of A10 with Quickswitch, I will return to A9 some day
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Just to be clear, the stock asus experience.... is the best overall experience? Thanks!
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Yeah. But for me I got like 50% more battery on A9 than A10 stock. A simple comparison with other phones suggests only A9 truely gives you 6000mah feel. A10 is more like 4000mah phones. I did quite a lot of testing too.