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http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...hing-standing-in-the-way-now-is-your-carrier/
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-posts-ics-updates-for-tons-of-canadian-devices-20120430/
Samsung Canada has finished porting Ice Cream Sandwich to a whole bunch of devices, which in Samsung press release parlance means they are "eligible" for an upgrade. Does that mean you can hit that "update" button today and start downloading ICS? Well, that's complicated.
First though, the list of devices:
GALAXY S II
GALAXY S II LTE
GALAXY S II LTE HD
GALAXY S II X
GALAXY Note
GALAXY Tab 7.0
GALAXY Tab 7.0 Plus
GALAXY Tab 8.9
GALAXY Tab 10.1
Now, for the caveats: Sammy says "The upgrade will be available today on select devices in Canada and will continue rolling out to devices and carriers throughout the quarter." and "The availability of the software upgrade and specific models upgradable to Android 4.0 will vary by market and wireless carriers' requirements. For carrier specific details, please visit your nearest carrier retailer." So basically Samsung is saying "We are done, it's up to your carrier." So after the carriers get done testing, poking, and installing bloatware, you'll get your upgrade.
This should be good news for the aforementioned Galaxy owners in other regions too. The software for different regions is about 90% compatible, so your Ice Cream Sandwich updates should be well on their way, too.
The press release isn't exactly clear on exactly who, in Canada, gets Ice Cream Sandwich today and who has to wait. So a question to all our Canadian commenters: What Galaxy device do you have, what carrier are you on, and happens when you mash that update button? Good luck!
Interesting. Well I'm not on any carrier, mine is unlocked... But I am in the UK. You'd think these things would be simultaneous huh?
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Makes me wonder when will they deploy the updates for the Wi-Fi only units. It must be real soon.
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Makes me wonder when will they deploy the updates for the Wi-Fi only units. It must be real soon.
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It looks to me like the P7300, P7310 and LTE versions are all available from retailers in Canada. Who knows which one will come first or if they will come all at the same time.
When does this translate into a working camera on the cm9 and galaxian soup ROMs? Lol
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When does this translate into a working camera on the cm9 and galaxian soup ROMs? Lol
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Yes, once the guys get their hands on it Shouldn't be long now!
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Interesting. Well I'm not on any carrier, mine is unlocked... But I am in the UK. You'd think these things would be simultaneous huh?
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Why would you think this when it's down to the carriers to test and countries have different carriers?
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Why would you think this when it's down to the carriers to test and countries have different carriers?
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Did you even read his post... He is not on any carrier!
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Did you even read his post... He is not on any carrier!
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Hah, clearly I didn't. Doh! I would say that there's still the regional differences causing delays.
i hope netherlands ics come soon!
If it's anything like the SGS2 the SIM free version came out a month after the carrier versions.
thx4de heads up!
this was for SGS2 in usa (central)att, rooted but cwm not working
it d/l'ed the update last nite 5/1 & this morning when i checked, it prompted for a reboot, followed by blue colored font saying updating....
then i went for coffee.. & when i checked the 'about' nfo, it still showed android 2.3.4 gingerbread. & was prompted to wait for 7hrs till i can check it again.
dunno update failed? process 1 of multiple? dunno
Any1else w/ the same problem/status?
for 8.9 still nothing yet.. 3.2 honeycomb
Any news? Did anyone get update for any device off that list?
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Any news? Did anyone get update for any device off that list?
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International Galaxy S 2 devices updated ages ago. International Galaxy Note updating from today.
Yes i would say the update should be in a few weeks. If anything the Note is the most complicated to update due to its unique software, but its also very popular hence the urgency of the update.
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International Galaxy S 2 devices updated ages ago. International Galaxy Note updating from today.
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I more than once quoted a link from them (Samsung) saying they would focus on their two flagship devices first (GSII and Note) and then the tablets. It makes sense they delayed the updates because the Galaxy Tab 2 will be released next week in the US. You know, they don't want an update stealing thunder from their recently (or about to as of now) released tablet. I think we will see news about new ICS firmwares next month.
According to sammobile there is no Android 5.1 builds are under development for the Galaxy Note 4 or any other Samsung device.
This sux.
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/03/30...he-galaxy-note-4-or-any-other-samsung-device/
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According to sammobile there is no Android 5.1 builds are under development for the Galaxy Note 4 or any other Samsung device.
This sux.
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/03/30...he-galaxy-note-4-or-any-other-samsung-device/
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So is that Mean Note 4 doesn't get 5.1x update..?? 5.0x is the last..!
it more than likely just means that they're hell bent on getting 5.0.x out before they even consider the 5.x
unification is important, chances are they will work on 5.x after all *current* product streams are at a base line...
Not now but maybe later. Or has the sd card been unfriendly with the new lollipop system. Anyway 2 years support for all flagship devices as a standard so don't get your hopes down
Also not as big a deal as you might think..
Dont forget the S6 will enter the market with 5.0.2
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s6-6849.php
And then there is this article as well:
http://www.gsmarena.com/android_51_might_bring_new_touchwiz_to_samsung_galaxy_note_4-news-11704.php
Its on the road map by the looks of it... just not the bleeding edge of the road map. Not terribly surprising given Samsung's recent focus on KNOX/SAFE and security in general... They wont be bashing out bleeding edge OS updates with a marketed focus on security.
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Also not as big a deal as you might think..
Dont forget the S6 will enter the market with 5.0.2
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s6-6849.php
And then there is this article as well:
http://www.gsmarena.com/android_51_might_bring_new_touchwiz_to_samsung_galaxy_note_4-news-11704.php
Its on the road map by the looks of it... just not the bleeding edge of the road map. Not terribly surprising given Samsung's recent focus on KNOX/SAFE and security in general... They wont be bashing out bleeding edge OS updates with a marketed focus on security.
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The source of the gsmarena article is from youmobile.org which was bashed by sammobile as untrue.
In my opinion Note 4 will receive 5.1. eventually but it'll never receive the new TW (may be just some minor new feautures). The reason for this is the future sales of s6 and note 5.
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The source of the gsmarena article is from youmobile.org which was bashed by sammobile as untrue.
In my opinion Note 4 will receive 5.1. eventually but it'll never receive the new TW (may be just some minor new feautures). The reason for this is the future sales of s6 and note 5.
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haha true, but all these "news" or "Leaking" site love to bash each other....
I would take them all with a pinch of salt.. I'd rather focus on why the hell its taking so long for the N910G to get L :-/ its seems like we're the last ones to get it
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The source of the gsmarena article is from youmobile.org which was bashed by sammobile as untrue.
In my opinion Note 4 will receive 5.1. eventually but it'll never receive the new TW (may be just some minor new feautures). The reason for this is the future sales of s6 and note 5.
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We have Great developers in XDA. So someone will port/mod the S6 TW UI for Note 4. Hope more ports would be reached for Note4 in near future :laugh:
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We have Great developers in XDA. So someone will port/mod the S6 TW UI for Note 4. Hope more ports would be reached for Note4 in near future [emoji23]
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Hope that not all good Developers will be f*u*c*k*e*d Off this Forum by their moderators.
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Apparently this was a fib. But we will find out in due course.
toofimoofi said:
According to sammobile there is no Android 5.1 builds are under development for the Galaxy Note 4 or any other Samsung device.
This sux.
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/03/30...he-galaxy-note-4-or-any-other-samsung-device/
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Old news now. I reported this back on the 20th. Welcome to today's media. The small guys reporting the new news and the big guys reporting old news.
http://www.klabouch.com/thequantumself/samsung-yet-to-start-5-1-development/
While I trust my sources you never know. Still let's look at the current rollout and you can see why we are leaning to more the truth.
Reminds me. I should be getting back to that. Haven't reported anything since then.
Most other variants including N910F and N910G seem to have received BOE update while N910C lags behind. Last update BOC5 has a build date of march 2015. It's really annoying that the Note 4 in general isn't getting the treatment it deserves. Specially the N910C. Other exynos variants seem to have received it.
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Most other variants including N910F and N910G seem to have received BOE update while N910C lags behind. Last update BOC5 has a build date of march 2015. It's really annoying that the Note 4 in general isn't getting the treatment it deserves. Specially the N910C. Other exynos variants seem to have received it.
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Any special improvements in those updates that you need or is it just that you need to have the latest version?
Actually both! 5.0.1 isn't a smooth lollipop update already. Of special concern to me is the overheating isuue. And then there's the flashaholic inside ?
BOD2/BOE2 arent too much different than the BOC5 update. They are newer builds since they were compiled later than the N910C ones but that doesn't mean they're more stable than BOC5. You just need to wait. There's a lot of time until your device gets obsolete for Samsung and his 18 months of updates policy.
Samsung was busy with Galaxy S6/Edge 6, and now they are busy with Note 5, and after Note 5 they will be busy with Galaxy S7.
Samsung is so busy, there is no time for Note 4, remember they already got your money, so you are not important to them anymore ............................ WELCOME TO SAMSUNG GREEDY WORLD.
If you are looking for stable faster updates cycle then try any other OEM other than Samsung like HTC, Motorola or even LG.
For me I feel really sorry that I got Note 4, I though Samsung will deal with me like a King and send me fast updates & others will envy me, but they sent me BOC5 with bugs & issues, and then Samsung went directly to fix Galaxy S6 issues and forgot about other Smartphones.
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Samsung was busy with Galaxy S6/Edge 6, and now they are busy with Note 5, and after Note 5 they will be busy with Galaxy S7.
Samsung is so busy, there is no time for Note 4, remember they already got your money, so you are not important to them anymore ............................ WELCOME TO SAMSUNG GREEDY WORLD.
If you are looking for stable faster updates cycle then try any other OEM other than Samsung like HTC, Motorola or even LG.
For me I feel really sorry that I got Note 4, I though Samsung will deal with me like a King and send me fast updates & others will envy me, but they sent me BOC5 with bugs & issues, and then Samsung went directly to fix Galaxy S6 issues and forgot about other Smartphones.
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Its So true man
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one-option said:
Samsung was busy with Galaxy S6/Edge 6, and now they are busy with Note 5, and after Note 5 they will be busy with Galaxy S7.
Samsung is so busy, there is no time for Note 4, remember they already got your money, so you are not important to them anymore ............................ WELCOME TO SAMSUNG GREEDY WORLD.
If you are looking for stable faster updates cycle then try any other OEM other than Samsung like HTC, Motorola or even LG.
For me I feel really sorry that I got Note 4, I though Samsung will deal with me like a King and send me fast updates & others will envy me, but they sent me BOC5 with bugs & issues, and then Samsung went directly to fix Galaxy S6 issues and forgot about other Smartphones.
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Downloding BOE1 right now for the 910c. :good: Hoping samsung will skip 5.1 and jump straight to android M.
Well it's generally agreed upon that you get 18 months of support and updates. While with samsung i got ONE buggy unoptimized update in 7 months!!
With every other OEM having phablets at 5.7" or more. Samsung is definitely not my next android phone vendor.
But again that's just passive-aggressive. I want my ****ing stable lollipop Updates!! If anyone knows is there anything we can do?
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Well it's generally agreed upon that you get 18 months of support and updates. While with samsung i got ONE buggy unoptimized update in 7 months!!
With every other OEM having phablets at 5.7" or more. Samsung is definitely not my next android phone vendor.
But again that's just passive-aggressive. I want my ****ing stable lollipop Updates!! If anyone knows is there anything we can do?
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Read the post above - they just released BOE1 for the 910c.
What?! And stay stuck with 5.0.1 for anothe 6 months?!!! You gotta be kidding man
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What?! And stay stuck with 5.0.1 for anothe 6 months?!!! You gotta be kidding man
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Don't think samsung is planning on updating the note 4 to 5.1 with 5.2 being announced in a couple of weeks. At least it should solve some of the minor bugs in lollipop.
Should've been working on it for a while, my friend. 5.1 has been out a month ago or something
Please use one of the existing firmware discussion threads. No need for a new one.
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Thank you.
I paid 1200 US $ ( in my country) and I still have to wait for Oreo ! S8 user Got Oreo last month but note 8 users not? I paid much more money than S8 users, So I Expect to get Oreo Before S8 Users
Mod edit for language @TheMadScientist
Oreo for note 8 just became available as a beta system. I'm running it on my note 8 right now for sprint variant. Search through this thread and you should find it. Oh and also it's only for the snapdragon variants.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...w-to-install-android-oreo-snapdragon-t3716281
Entitled are we? ?
You sound like the little entitled girl from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory...
Lol hahahaha
:laugh:
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PRO23 said:
I paid 1200 US $ ( in my country) and I still have to wait for Oreo ! WTF? why the hell S8 user Got Oreo last month but note 8 users not? I paid much more money than S8 users, So I Expect to get Oreo Before S8 Users. ****.
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Patience is a virtue! I guess you are not virtuous enough!
No, in all seriousness, I would prefer to wait and get a good, stable and worthwhile Oreo than a half baked one ... it's not as is it's going to turn the phone into a brand new one!
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OP let me sum up the Samsung experience for you: great hardware , camera and unbeatable, addictive software features. Not the fastest or smoothest UI and your updates will lag 4-6 months behind Android.
Learn this and live with it.
PRO23 said:
I paid 1200 US $ ( in my country) and I still have to wait for Oreo ! WTF? why the hell S8 user Got Oreo last month but note 8 users not? I paid much more money than S8 users, So I Expect to get Oreo Before S8 Users. ****.
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Oh please: stop whining!
1st of all: S8-users (the most of them, NOT in BETA) DON'T have Oreo either (yet)...
For the Note8 (Snapdragon-version), a "test-version Oreo" has leaked already...
But: what do you want? An UNSTABLE test/beta-version, or a STABLE version later?
Do you have "problems" now with your Note8? You can't "CALL" and/or "APP" anymore?
Have patience...
And if you want to have all updates/upgrades "instantly", you should have bought a Pixel!
PRO23 said:
I paid 1200 US $ ( in my country) and I still have to wait for Oreo ! WTF? why the hell S8 user Got Oreo last month but note 8 users not? I paid much more money than S8 users, So I Expect to get Oreo Before S8 Users. ****.
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Only some Sony and Nokia device have Oreo atm and the Google phones of course. So stop whining and wait and see will get it in 4 to 6 weeks. If you can't sell your phone and buy a phone that comes with Oreo.
If you want to whinge then come over here to Australia... We have a version of android that has to be edited before release to remove icons Apple have copyrighted (don't get me started on that). That puts it out weeks to months after everywhere else gets it, and if you have a carrier phone you may not get it at all....
We can stamp our feet and scream out "We want it now" but it really doesn't matter... Be thankful you get it so damn early...
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Patience is a virtue! I guess you are not virtuous enough!
No, in all seriousness, I would prefer to wait and get a good, stable and worthwhile Oreo than a half baked one ... it's not as is it's going to turn the phone into a brand new one!
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I tried it. It is half-baked, and to be honest, there are not that many differences. I switched back to nougat as it wouldn't play nice with my gear S3. I'm waiting for official. It shouldn't be too long now.
And this thread is closed as it is going nowhere fast
Ok we obviously won't get any hardware-dependent features, but we should get the new camera interface / live text translation / split-screen app shortcuts etc, right?
Just lol... Yeah, in 15 minutes all the developers on xda will answer you. With the exact date and time and the mod they will port. After all, the S9 is now already 6 months old. Hang on...
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Ideally those features should come with the Oreo update of Note 8. Can't see any other logical reason for delaying the update of their current flagship as most of these tweaks require dual camera which s8 or + dont have thus they just released the oreo without that. But, they cannot release the new features on Note 8 before they show it off in S9. Thus the hold up in the update. Releasing a Oreo update for Note 8 without those features and then again releasing one more later with the update is too much work thus they must have skipped the former.
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Just lol... Yeah, in 15 minutes all the developers on xda will answer you. With the exact date and time and the mod they will port. After all, the S9 is now already 6 months old. Hang on...
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Lol dude, chill.. nobody is expecting definitive answers. I meant do you think Samsung might include these features in future updates. I was hoping for a discussion on what is theoretically possible, now that a lot of S9 features have been leaked.
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Just lol... Yeah, in 15 minutes all the developers on xda will answer you. With the exact date and time and the mod they will port. After all, the S9 is now already 6 months old. Hang on...
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There's a polite way to say that. It's supposed to be a community after all
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There's a polite way to say that. It's supposed to be a community after all
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I know. Threads like this, when the phone is not even officially released and people already want something from it, make me angry. I want to change, but i can't. I often feel stupid for "being the xda police", and still i do it. :silly:
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I know. Threads like this, when the phone is not even officially released and people already want something from it, make me angry. I want to change, but i can't. I often feel stupid for "being the xda police", and still i do it. :silly:
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You're not the "XDA police" so stop acting like you're superior to the rest of the people posting here. You're in the questions and answers sections, this post and your previous ones aren't helping and are annoying. All you do is post some stupid sarcastic comment to try and make the previous poster feel like an idiot instead of actually helping them.
Aremoji should work because there doesn't seem to be any hardware limitation
After the s9 sales well yes the note 8 will get key features as for anytime soon no forget it
Hopefully we at least see Oreo soon. I'm still salty because Samsung just cut the Samsung Pay reward points in half....
We will see (I hope) many good things when Oreo hits the note 8, I can not say that features from s9+, but hey! They belong to a different series, I bought my note 8 for what it is and the features it offered from day one, so, anything else would be a very welcome bonus, that is why I do not complain or whine about oreo still not coming, I like my device as I bought it, that is why I chose it, that`s it.
i did saw the live launch yesterday and they displayed for a few seconds that the S8/S8+/Note 8 is AR capable
so lets see if Oreo update will allow us to have S9 AR capable camera features
Honestly I doubt it unless 3rd party ports them. They're running out of ideas for new upgrades it's obvious and to port new software features to older phones isn't the best marketing move. That's just my opinion.
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S9 system dump was just released. I already ported it but without Oreo most stuff doesn't work and it's extremely buggy. If anyone wants screens or anything just join my Telegram group [at]JaysRoms . Once we will get Oreo. I will port S9 to Note8 .
Samsung messed up this time BIG time. We all paid very good money for the note 8 for a good phone - ok? Yes, that is true but to wait almost a full year for the Oreo update? Common SAMSUNG...
Now the S9 series will be on top of everything and in a few months the Note 9 will so our 1000 bucks Note 8 will be "old" , "sluggish" an so on... This is bul**** my friends.
When I pay this money I am expecting fast update, support and ALL the new software features. But we are to blame! We should stop buying new phones every year! If we stay with a phone at least 2 years and don't give them our money they will start to understand that a 5 months old phone IS NOT OLD!
"S9 system dump was just released. I already ported it but without Oreo most stuff doesn't work and it's extremely buggy. If anyone wants screens or anything just join my Telegram group [at]JaysRoms . Once we will get Oreo. I will port S9 to Note 8 ."
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I suppose a root will be necessary ? Thanks.
s9 features? in fact there is doubt if we would have oreo or not
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Samsung messed up this time BIG time. We all paid very good money for the note 8 for a good phone - ok? Yes, that is true but to wait almost a full year for the Oreo update? Common SAMSUNG...
Now the S9 series will be on top of everything and in a few months the Note 9 will so our 1000 bucks Note 8 will be "old" , "sluggish" an so on... This is bul**** my friends.
When I pay this money I am expecting fast update, support and ALL the new software features. But we are to blame! We should stop buying new phones every year! If we stay with a phone at least 2 years and don't give them our money they will start to understand that a 5 months old phone IS NOT OLD!
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your first mistake was expecting fast update from Sammy. they are known for their obscene late updates and if im not wrong, the current price of the Note 8 is already pretty low before S9 even hit.
i was even thinking of rooting but thx to Substratum especially the font addons. again, i maybe wrong, cause i do shot video at 60fps, rooting may very well kill that feature. yeah, there is rooted stock rom but i root for flashing purer rom if theres such word and therein lies the problem, no more 60fps!
Anyone who expects S9 features to be present in the Note 8 rom must be smoking something illegal...
Where in the world is the economic sense to supply these features in their next phone if owners of older phones have it already?
Why would you update your hardware if you are already running most of the improvements?
We'll probably get a slightly beefed up version of Oreo that the S8 and S8+ got and won't see any of the S9 features until 6 months after the S9's and S9+'s relaese. There's no money in it for Samsung...
My view on major updates is mixed. Monthly security updates are in my view mandatory and Samsung continues to offer those down to the S6.
Major OS updates can yield mixed performance and stability results when applied to older hardware. Further, the advances from say Nougat to Oreo- range from significant (Treble (which the 8 series will not get with Android 8.0), better battery life, notifications, etc ) to cosmetic.
Samsung Experience new version tweaks seem even less important. I can live without new emojis for example.
I think the bottom line is that with Oreo and Project Treble, Samsung and others should be able to churn out faster and more reliable updates. The issue pre Oreo was more on Androids limitations and less on Samsung's intransigence. That said, the omission of Treble from the 8 series Oreo updates is troubling. Maybe this will come with 8.1.
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Lol dude, chill.. nobody is expecting definitive answers. I meant do you think Samsung might include these features in future updates. I was hoping for a discussion on what is theoretically possible, now that a lot of S9 features have been leaked.
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No Samsung won't be releasing any of the s9 features for note 8 as it would cripple the s9 sales and the note 9.
They only did that with the note 5 when note 7 was recalled as a apology of some sort.
The XDA devs on the other hand are know to to port stuff somewhere down the line but sadly we don't ha e that many devs for note 8 yet as we did for previous notes such as note 3 and 4.
Hopefully more devs will buy note 8 when note 9 is released when price falls.