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Reminds me of something... But I cant put my finger on it
Mod Edit: Links removed - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4745624&postcount=8
Its skinned to remove all logos, The only thing I could not remove was the text. I made it for myself, keep that in mind. I am just sharing.
*edit* if the original does not work, I doubt this one will but use the same install information 555-555-5555 and you must have the widget on your home screen. Launch it from the widget preferably.

is there anything different about these apks? Are they wifi compatible?

I tried wifi compatibility and it is still in the works but as of now this is only for looks but I am working on wifi as I post this.

555-555-5555?? call that number while the widget is up?

On some of the sprint apps it makes you comfirm that you are a sprint customer, so instead of sending sprint our real phone numbers (caller id=your name) we send them fake ones, like 555-555-5555

this seems like not a smart thing for you to do.

DemoShadow said:
Reminds me of something... But I cant put my finger on it
Mod Edit: Links removed - http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...24&postcount=8
Its skinned to remove all logos, The only thing I could not remove was the text. I made it for myself, keep that in mind. I am just sharing.
*edit* if the original does not work, I doubt this one will but use the same install information 555-555-5555 and you must have the widget on your home screen. Launch it from the widget preferably.
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so basically you just violated alot of copyright laws....

Unfortunately, some may think, we cannot allow links to modded paying software. The software in question is provided under licence to Sprint users only. Now, we try not to sensor knowledge here, so we not going to delete all references to the fact that this software can be ported to non Sprint devices and used free of charge in breach of terms and conditions, BUT we cannot permit links to the software that would actively encourage members to break the law.
Mike
Links will be removed

It's not the fact that it is Sprint software ported over to the G1. It is the fact that he removed all of Sprint's branding. That's like taking the the Google Maps app (or any Google app) and removing Google's name from it. It's simply just a breach of copyright.

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It's not the fact that it is Sprint software ported over to the G1. It is the fact that he removed all of Sprint's branding. That's like taking the the Google Maps app (or any Google app) and removing Google's name from it. It's simply just a breach of copyright.
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Well, that too but the whole subject of the Sprint / Telnav software has been raised and discussed with Mods and Admin so there are issues regarding the use of such software on non Sprint phones.
Mike

Wow. Mike you have got to be one of the fairest, most logical forum mods I have ever had the pleasure to read. I am very impressed with the way in which this was handled.

mike i thought your site got closed because u had all the htc breakdown videos and what of that? but i do understand the point so i say lets make a new site that will let you post or upload. that way we can get the goods and xda dont get the blame if i remeber november 27 windows came down on xda for the same ish so please pleas dont let it happen to android just look for a new method for the shares. but i do like the work and want the app i was to late late for the link !!!!! Thanx mike !!!!!

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mike i thought your site got closed because u had all the htc breakdown videos and what of that? but i do understand the point so i say lets make a new site that will let you post or upload. that way we can get the goods and xda dont get the blame if i remeber november 27 windows came down on xda for the same ish so please pleas dont let it happen to android just look for a new method for the shares. but i do like the work and want the app i was to late late for the link !!!!! Thanx mike !!!!!
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I was shut down for a while and had to remove some things, but in the end reached a sort of unofficial compromise on intellectual property rights.
This is a delicate issue, in my case I don't offer folks something they would normally have to pay for through their network or otherwise. (I offer stuff they should not have, even if they have money to pay for it!!).
I guess our bottom line is that knowledge should be freely available, but handing folk the tools, to install stuff that is very close to being Warez, is off-limits. (Robbing banks with an uzi can be profitable = knowledge, but handing out uzis and suggesting you rob a bank, crosses the line)
.... and yes we know cooking ROMs and such is also a grey area, but even there we say that ROMs should not be cooked that include for free any software for which the user would normally have to pay.
If someone set up a site with Sprint software on it - that's entirely up to them. We would probably even accept a link to it if the poster said "hey here's a breakdown of a Sprint ROM" In fact that would probably be OK to post here - at least until someone asked for a "take-down"
The problem only comes when someone says you can load this stuff on non-Sprint phones and get stuff for free and just to help you do that here are the links. In other words that ceases to be a theoretical point of information and becomes an encouragement to do something naughty. If folks want t be naughty then they have to do so, by reading the knowledge and then looking for the tools from whatever source, here or elsewhere without our help.
These kinds of things have been debated many times here at XDA - there are no absolute rights and wrongs, only things we think are more or less safe for us to do - just like life generally I guess
Mike

mikechannon said:
These kinds of things have been debated many times here at XDA - there are no absolute rights and wrongs, only things we think are more or less safe for us to do - just like life generally I guess
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Well said Mike. When I read it, I had a /foreheadslap moment thinking, "well duh, this should be pretty obvious," but im constantly reminded that there are users on here who simply feel they have a right or deserve to have any given piece of software if it is leaked online.
The bottom line is, do not post software that has not been explicity licensed as open source unless you have obtained permission to redistribute. As a general rule of thumb, if the software cannot be legally obtained unless you pay someone (e.g. it comes preloaded on a phone) or can be obtained free but only if you agree to a license agreement (downloading certain software update packages) then you should not redistribute it on xda or elsewhere.

[Q] Truecrypt port to Android

Anyone here can port TRUE CRYPT to Android? I am ready to donate if anyone can do this.
Even a basic program that can encrypt and decrypt SD card, at least the external SD card would be acceptable. This way we can be assured that data on the external SD card is secure, and store documents on that.

I looked for something along the same lines for a while, tried every app I could find on the market that was related, but none of them came anywhere near truecrypt's functionality.
Sent from my Samsung Captivate.
Current rom: Perception b8

Agreed. If anyone could get an app that could atleast encrypt the whole external card, I'm good. Don't even want the functionality of mounting n dismounting as a drive.
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I would LOVE, I repeat LOVE, if TrueCrypt came out for Android.

miztaken1312 said:
I would LOVE, I repeat LOVE, if TrueCrypt came out for Android.
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I am ready to donate if anyone comes up with this.

diablo009 said:
I am ready to donate if anyone comes up with this.
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Me too!
It's the only application I can't find alternative on Android. I need a port of TrueCrypt or FreeOTFE very much!

I think we could start a bounty for anyone who can do this.

diablo009 said:
I think we could start a bounty for anyone who can do this.
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I emailed them a long time asking if they would consider a port and I never heard back from them. Other people should email them and ask so they see that there is a desire for it
Sent from my Captivate

i would love this!

Here is the link on google android dev forms.
Code:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=11211
Here are my posts on this: Comments 12 and 13
Code:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=8686
Here is my post on this: Comment 101
This is the place where people can post what they want. Please feel free to post on this forum too, as it would be seen by android dev folks.

It would be super awesome if they ported it to the Android platform. In my experience, BB 9700 is a truly secure device with its full AES-256 encryption. I used to use it before i got my Captivate so i can def say i miss that feature.

How about a mod moves this thread to main Android forum to get more exposure.

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How about a mod moves this thread to main Android forum to get more exposure.
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+1 to this idea.

-Arturo- said:
How about a mod moves this thread to main Android forum to get more exposure.
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U have an extra 250 MB in ur drop box now

Truecrypt has an dedicated forum, I would say ikt would make a lot of sense to go their and propose realistic outlines/requirements of what we expect from a TC version for Android. There seem to be a lot of folks who cling to the notion of "if it is important do not put it in a handset with a Google OS because Google kis teh evil".
Voice your opinions and needs there, maybe that makes a difference.

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Truecrypt has an dedicated forum, I would say ikt would make a lot of sense to go their and propose realistic outlines/requirements of what we expect from a TC version for Android. There seem to be a lot of folks who cling to the notion of "if it is important do not put it in a handset with a Google OS because Google kis teh evil".
Voice your opinions and needs there, maybe that makes a difference.
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url please
i am already following abt android security on google forums

Is google down?
Software is called Truecrypt. Surprisingly it has an official website, truecrypt.org. Checking that one out you find a blue box on top which has a simple text link going to the forums.
http://forums.truecrypt.org
really not that hard to find. Linking the actual thread won't do anything either way cause you need to sign up for full access. Once you are, just use in site search with the term Android or something.
...this chunk of zeroes and ones has been generated by flashing a 400 Watt halogen bulb into the open fibres of a transcontinental communications cable...

I'll give it a try.
I'm setting up a machine to work on it right now, will let you know how it goes. First attempt will be to get some sort of command-line based utility operational.

10 char +++

I've been interested in making something like this. I do have android development experience as well.
I'm assuming opening a truecrypt container would be a good place to start.
How interested are you guys, really?

[Q] Honeybunches thread

What happened to the honeybunches thread? What was the reason it was deleted??

OP requested that his thread be deleted.

Huh okay, thanks.

Was a reason given? Is he working on a newer version? I donated money and although I understand that a donation is giving someone money without precondition, an explanation would be the polite thing to do.

66cat389 said:
Was a reason given? Is he working on a newer version? I donated money and although I understand that a donation is giving someone money without precondition, an explanation would be the polite thing to do.
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You donated money to someone for a small tweak on the Honeycomb SDK port that deeper-blue had created... Your loss.

Not really, I appreciated his work. And since I cannot contribute to the community with expertise, I choose to do so with money since I am generally a fan of the work put out by others on this board. Trust me, if blue had a donate link I would be one of the first to kick in some cash. But he hasn't and despite being a "minor tweak" the build was still quite good.

I DENIED ALL DONATIONS... NO MONEY WAS TAKEN. I didnt want any legal issues with google. I saw in deepers q&a about the market.
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Not really, I appreciated his work. And since I cannot contribute to the community with expertise, I choose to do so with money since I am generally a fan of the work put out by others on this board. Trust me, if blue had a donate link I would be one of the first to kick in some cash. But he hasn't and despite being a "minor tweak" Mr. ____ build was still quite good.
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Just a personal thing... Can you please remove my name from your post? Thanks.
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sorry guys

All is good Marcusant! Your work was/is very much appreciated and I look forward to seeing what you do with this in the future. Maybe an EMMC build in coordination with DB? hehe

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Just a personal thing... Can you please remove my name from your post? Thanks.
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Not a problem, I apologize if I stepped on your privacy.

He deleted his post because it was becoming quite apparent that he was blatantly copying someone else's work. Taking a "picture" (diskimage) of a working version of someone else's work with a couple of apks added to it does not make it "your custom rom". He had no business giving advice on technicalities of Honeycomb that he had no understanding of, and it's no wonder that Blue wouldn't give this kid the time of day and "work together" on future builds...I'm really surprised no one called him on it earlier than now...

I do believe the reason for the OP deleting was merely the fact that you aren't meant to include GApps (Market, Gmail, Maps etc..) inside ROMS or devices that aren't licensed by Google. That's why you don't see cheap Android tablets with the Android Market on - Google hasn't licensed them too. Same applies to ROMS.

Actually Marcusant wasn't just adding "a few apks." He tweaked DB's release to make an image that would fit a 2gb card for those that didn't have access to bigger cards.

Yep--makes it even shadier-- Here is his math, in base form:
(Deep Blue's build) + (Google's Gapps) + (LauncherPro) = ("MY CUSTOM ROM" WOOT?)
It was wrong on every level.

Zeroing out space and using a partition tool still leaves you with someone elses exact work underneath. Not an excuse. Fine (IMO) to post as a image of DB's build, but NOT as 'my custom rom'. Anyone else agree?

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I do believe the reason for the OP deleting was merely the fact that you aren't meant to include GApps (Market, Gmail, Maps etc..) inside ROMS or devices that aren't licensed by Google. That's why you don't see cheap Android tablets with the Android Market on - Google hasn't licensed them too. Same applies to ROMS.
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Do you think that Google would sue the guy over a rom on his nook color he was using for personal use? I don't. I could see it if he was selling the rom or selling nooks he rooted and put the market on. If Google were going to sue it probably would have started a long time ago with all of the devices that have been rooted and the market was put on. Or it would have started when the nc was first rooted and the market was put on it.
Why would they sue? As long as people are using it like they should then google is just MAKING MORE MONEY by us having the market on another device to buy apps with.
Marcusant did google ask you to take your thread down?

Just to clarify, deeper-blue was fine with my work...
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Yep--makes it even shadier-- Here is his math, in base form:
(Deep Blue's build) + (Google's Gapps) + (LauncherPro) = ("MY CUSTOM ROM" WOOT?)
It was wrong on every level.
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By your assessment, Deep Blue is just copying someone else's work too (i.e. Google). I thought the point of this forum is for people to find ways of making our devices work better, or making it easier to make our devices work better?
The only real issue, that I can see here, is that he included the Market. He also made several tweaks (tweaks Deep Blue did not make), including raising the DPI and making it fit on a 2GB card.
This is not supposed to be a site about egos or who's copying who. He gave credit to Deep Blue and this is all that is necessary. He never claimed to have created the whole thing himself.

marcusant said:
Just to clarify, deeper-blue was fine with my work...
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Really???? Maybe you should rethink that statement. There is no record whatsoever of deeperblue ever responding to one of your posts, or questions needing help from him on Xda. Having to communicate with someone that is 'fine with your work' by posting "DEEPER BLUE PLEEEASE READ" messages in their thread should be all the evidence you need. You might want to actually talk to him before making these claims.
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[Q] Need someone to develop a custom ROM for me

This question applies to the Samsung Galaxy Note (not the Note II), the SGH-T879 distributed by Tmobile.
Pardon me if this is a ridiculous question or if it is posted in a wrong forum; I know so little about these things.
I got the Note (referenced above) several months ago. I have beaten my head against a wall trying to get it to record both sides of a conversation within the phone -- without having to use speakerphone -- with no success.
I've tried many call recording programs, even ones with great reviews, and I think my problem is that Android versions later than 2.3.5 have blocked direct access to the firmware or hardware (not sure exactly which applies here). I have no experience with programming or development and don't want to learn. So here's my question: What would it cost to get someone to write a custom ROM that will allow the call recording programs to work properly? Or is that even a practical consideration at all?
Please, no suggestions on trying call recording programs or the moral or legal implications. Let's just stick to the question about the custom ROM.

Pffft! Whatever wrong forum.
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Some of the Custom ROM in Development section has Call Recording Option, Did you try any of those Rom.
For example "Saurom-Projekt The_Hybrid 'Inovation' edition| AROMA" has call Recording. I have not used this rom but i just looked under the change log and it says it has Call Recording.

Alex Ethridge said:
This question applies to the Samsung Galaxy Note (not the Note II), the SGH-T879 distributed by Tmobile.
Pardon me if this is a ridiculous question or if it is posted in a wrong forum; I know so little about these things.
I got the Note (referenced above) several months ago. I have beaten my head against a wall trying to get it to record both sides of a conversation within the phone -- without having to use speakerphone -- with no success.
I've tried many call recording programs, even ones with great reviews, and I think my problem is that Android versions later than 2.3.5 have blocked direct access to the firmware or hardware (not sure exactly which applies here). I have no experience with programming or development and don't want to learn. So here's my question: What would it cost to get someone to write a custom ROM that will allow the call recording programs to work properly? Or is that even a practical consideration at all?
Please, no suggestions on trying call recording programs or the moral or legal implications. Let's just stick to the question about the custom ROM.
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I think its safe to say that 98% of all Dev's on xda dont do this for money so I think just flat out paying somebody to do this is out. second you make a point of saying you refuse to learn to do it yourself which a lot of people would agree goes against the very spirit and intention of this site. Ya gotta be willing to learn if thats what it takes to make things happen the way you want! I hope ya have luck finding your answer though!

Yea, I'm using Saurom-Projekt, and it records fine unless you are using a bluetooth headphone. That coupled with an app (I use Sanity) gives me automatic incoming and outgoing call recording.

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you obviously haven't tried call recorder by skvalex... Been using it for almost a year. Best 10 dollars ever spent. of course there is one thing you have to do on the note to get it to work but you clearly stated you don't want to learn or didn't want any program suggestions.
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Thanks for all the replies.
Okay, I get it. This forum is for developers who help developers; but, I need a solution sooner than the years it would take me to learn how to program. I've never programmed. I've never been in the same room with a programmer, as far as I know.
Some of the Custom ROM in Development section has Call Recording Option, Did you try any of those Rom.
For example "Saurom-Projekt The_Hybrid 'Inovation' edition| AROMA" has call Recording. I have not used this rom but i just looked under the change log and it says it has Call Recording.
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I have no idea what some of those words mean. I have no idea how to choose a ROM that would both enable my phone to record calls and that would be compatible with my hardware, I understand there are several versions of the i717 and ROMs for one aren't necessarily compatible with others and I have no idea how to choose the correct one. Then there is the problem that the terms I've read in the ROMs' capabilities/descriptions frequently have no meaning to me. I'm lost in China and I don't speak Chinese.
I've tried this kind of thing before and what usually happens is that people try to help and I think they give up and go away in their own frustration trying to help someone who is clueless even about the words they use when trying to help me. It's very frustrating.
you obviously haven't tried call recorder by skvalex... Been using it for almost a year. Best 10 dollars ever spent. of course there is one thing you have to do on the note to get it to work but you clearly stated you don't want to learn or didn't want any program suggestions.
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So, after having expressed my frustrations and made it clear I'm a non-developer asking questions that only a developer would understand the answers for, what is this "one thing" I have to do, v3rsatile23?

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Alex Ethridge said:
Thanks for all the replies.
Okay, I get it. This forum is for developers who help developers; but, I need a solution sooner than the years it would take me to learn how to program. I've never programmed. I've never been in the same room with a programmer, as far as I know.I have no idea what some of those words mean. I have no idea how to choose a ROM that would both enable my phone to record calls and that would be compatible with my hardware, I understand there are several versions of the i717 and ROMs for one aren't necessarily compatible with others and I have no idea how to choose the correct one. Then there is the problem that the terms I've read in the ROMs' capabilities/descriptions frequently have no meaning to me. I'm lost in China and I don't speak Chinese.
I've tried this kind of thing before and what usually happens is that people try to help and I think they give up and go away in their own frustration trying to help someone who is clueless even about the words they use when trying to help me. It's very frustrating.So, after having expressed my frustrations and made it clear I'm a non-developer asking questions that only a developer would understand the answers for, what is this "one thing" I have to do, v3rsatile23?
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Alex, you have to learn. You have to do your own studying. No one here on XDA has the time to do all the work for you - you have to understand how to flash something, how to recover if you do and something goes awry, how to deal with testing - no one else here can do that for you.
XDA is a volunteer run Development forum - it isn't here to teach basic uses. Please keep reading and don't do anything until you're fully up to speed. Now, before the flames start, I'm closing this thread.

All hands On Deck?

So I'm surprised this isn't Priority One across the board for development with Android.
Now that it looks like John's gone, I'm actually shocked that no one is tried to take over or step forward to try and come up with an alternative. This should be all hands on deck Priority One as not having root is far sh1tt1er than having it. Maybe I just I'm not up to the newest dev news. Does anyone have any information on possible development about that?

The vvb2060 Alpha builds are still getting updated, and as that had been a trusted collaborator with John, that seems to be the current path for continued development.

Why does everyone assume that development of Magisk has stopped? Until we hear anything from John there's zero need for "fear mongering" and speculation...

FUD is what keeps forums running

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The vvb2060 Alpha builds are still getting updated, and as that had been a trusted collaborator with John, that seems to be the current path for continued development.
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Yes I've been running the alpha build since earlyJune. However I worry/sneaking suspicion and inclination that his intention or competency level is to tweak existing technology rather than flat out create compatibility for Android 12 for example. These are my fears.

Burt Squirtz said:
Yes I've been running the alpha build since earlyJune. However I worry/sneaking suspicion and inclination that his intention or competency level is to tweak existing technology rather than flat out create compatibility for Android 12 for example. These are my fears.
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You need to step back, take a chill pill, and unclench

73sydney said:
You need to step back, take a chill pill, and unclench
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trying to look cool? Not sure why you bothered to type this - as absolutely nothing in my post would indicate that I'm not calm.
Surprised more people are asking this question about having root in the future.

Well.
It is better to think ahead but it may happen that demand will create supply.
It is basic market rule.
I hope & pray that current Magisk will continue to work even if site where it checks updates and modules disappears.

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trying to look cool? Not sure why you bothered to type this - as absolutely nothing in my post would indicate that I'm not calm.
Surprised more people are asking this question about having root in the future.
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Because the FUD was boring a month ago
The only prospecting you should be doing should involve a gold pan
p.s. My default setting is humour, sometimes people get it, some dont, the clue would have been the 2 smilies i put in to try and make certain it was taken that way
p.p.s. Casting doubt on someones abilities (vvb2060) isnt cool, just saying, they guy is working largely on his own to add features/fixes from the original Magisk repo issues, so maybe cut him some slack? or help out?

i really like vvb2060 magisk lite approach
i hop he adds control to it throw a terminate

Didgeridoohan said:
Why does everyone assume that development of Magisk has stopped? Until we hear anything from John there's zero need for "fear mongering" and speculation...
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Back in May, topjohnwu had already confirmed that Google is forbidding him from working on Magisk.

misterlink said:
Back in May, topjohnwu had already confirmed that Google is forbidding him from working on Magisk.
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Since that screenshot is taken out of context from a longer conversation, that was private and not shared by John himself, it doesn't show the whole truth.
My statement still stands: wait until we hear anything official from John...

Game Over.
State of Magisk: 2021
Ever since my employment at Google, crazy speculations has been spreading like wild fire all over the Internet. The out-of-context private…
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Game over? I think we read that text and came to two very different conclusions...
It's far from game over.

So as far i understand he is allowed to continue working on magisk but is not allowed to do any work on magisk hide or any hide module he claims that is just 5% of the work so if he does magisk and someone else adds magisk hide function it is all good right ?

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So as far i understand he is allowed to continue working on magisk but is not allowed to do any work on magisk hide or any hide module he claims that is just 5% of the work so if he does magisk and someone else adds magisk hide function it is all good right ?
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This sounds simple enough, but Magisk without MagiskHide will be relatively useless since most apps that aren't a web browser will refuse to run because they detect root and/or an unlocked bootloader. This is the core problem that Magisk solves. The rest of the Magisk modules are nice to haves.
Until the apps try to detect modifications to themselves rather than simply seeing if there is a possibility of modification they are not doing anything for security but instead further locking users into their ecosystem.

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This sounds simple enough, but Magisk without MagiskHide will be relatively useless since most apps that aren't a web browser will refuse to run because they detect root and/or an unlocked bootloader. This is the core problem that Magisk solves. The rest of the Magisk modules are nice to haves.
Until the apps try to detect modifications to themselves rather than simply seeing if there is a possibility of modification they are not doing anything for security but instead further locking users into their ecosystem.
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I would imagen magisk would not be useless as i would assume magisk and a hide module would be in development in paralell to each other so magisk by the creator and hide by other developer who is kind innof to help out so yeah.
unless people ditch magisk alltogether and fork it and do it difrently who knows
i just read the article about this on the xda homepage and read through the comments people seem to be freaking out and spell doom to custom roms and everything about it pretty funny though but i geuss the signs are on the wall....

mstrnemo said:
I would imagen magisk would not be useless as i would assume magisk and a hide module would be in development in paralell to each other so magisk by the creator and hide by other developer who is kind innof to help out so yeah.
unless people ditch magisk alltogether and fork it and do it difrently who knows
i just read the article about this on the xda homepage and read through the comments people seem to be freaking out and spell doom to custom roms and everything about it pretty funny though but i geuss the signs are on the wall....
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Ok, useless might have been too strong. If a hide module is developed and maintained then things will largely stay the same. That said, until that materializes, it is the end of Magisk as we know it. Anyone who claims that nothing will change is going to give rise to a lot of disappointment. Don't get me wrong, there are lots of talented developers and one could very likey pick up where TJW leaves off but I certainly wouldn't bet on it.
IMO rather than fight with the our small community, Google/Android should provide us a way to self sign our devices and absolve themselves of any responsibility to keep our devices "secure".

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Ok, useless might have been too strong. If a hide module is developed and maintained then things will largely stay the same. That said, until that materializes, it is the end of Magisk as we know it. Anyone who claims that nothing will change is going to give rise to a lot of disappointment. Don't get me wrong, there are lots of talented developers and one could very likey pick up where TJW leaves off but I certainly wouldn't bet on it.
IMO rather than fight with the our small community, Google/Android should provide us a way to self sign our devices and absolve themselves of any responsibility to keep our devices "secure".
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Yeah agree on your first part
now about that second part..
never going to happen why ? because what do you think we are to those companys? what do you think they would call us people who dont buy a new phone every year and keep older phones working for a couple years with the latest software huh ? we cost them money it is in their best interest that none of all this works and or is capable because if it wasnt everyone here would have to get a new phone ergo bringing in the bacon for those said companys...
I wish we could send out a message a reqeust to all the developers on this site and be like oke guys lets ditch android it is not worth the ffort anymore lets get together all of us and work on alternitives of wich we have 2
ubuntu touch linux os for phones (there are otheres but noone as far developt as this one) also it is stil not entirely their yet but it is very close.
sailfish wel basicly also linux this is next best thing to android it is based on nokia/intel meego project it is like i said linux based and open source this is what the developers should work on it is just rough araund the edges but works great one downside while it is opensource the ability to run android apps is properity software so developers would have to come with their own thing forexample maybe try and get wine to work on sailfish so u can use android apps as normal phone.
what do you think? developers unite in a avengers style and the ones who cant do code like myself help by donating ?

mstrnemo said:
Yeah agree on your first part
now about that second part..
never going to happen why ? because what do you think we are to those companys? what do you think they would call us people who dont buy a new phone every year and keep older phones working for a couple years with the latest software huh ? we cost them money it is in their best interest that none of all this works and or is capable because if it wasnt everyone here would have to get a new phone ergo bringing in the bacon for those said companys...
I wish we could send out a message a reqeust to all the developers on this site and be like oke guys lets ditch android it is not worth the ffort anymore lets get together all of us and work on alternitives of wich we have 2
ubuntu touch linux os for phones (there are otheres but noone as far developt as this one) also it is stil not entirely their yet but it is very close.
sailfish wel basicly also linux this is next best thing to android it is based on nokia/intel meego project it is like i said linux based and open source this is what the developers should work on it is just rough araund the edges but works great one downside while it is opensource the ability to run android apps is properity software so developers would have to come with their own thing forexample maybe try and get wine to work on sailfish so u can use android apps as normal phone.
what do you think? developers unite in a avengers style and the ones who cant do code like myself help by donating ?
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Oh I would never expect #2 to happen either, that is why it's only my opinion.
A phone OS not managed by a large corporation would be great, but it couldn't survive without the app stores of the large corporations. That is what they are making money off of, not the devices. I think most of us already realize that so I'm just stating the obvious.