what do i really want to say is, do Sony such desperate to release new phones ? Sp and now ZR. I'm quite disappointed because ZR have dedicated shutter button and water resistance better than the Z.
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Really? Four phones in 5 months and you're complaining already?
The Z is the ultimate flagship. ZL is a regional alternative. SP is actually much cheaper and targeted at midrange. ZR is for people who want everything the Z has but at a smaller size.
The difference in water resistance between the Z and ZR isn't very big. Most people will also prefer the Z over the ZR in looks too.
If you're scared of updates, the ZR runs on the same hardware and software as the Z and ZL so no need to worry there.
Dont be surprised it's Sony. They release phones quite frequently for high end, Middle range and budget phones every year. And they have been doing this for a while.
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I like that the xperia ZR is waterproof,not water resistance.
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GSMarena claims it being IP58 with a shatterproof glass & Body and released with Android 4.2.
Basically a Quad-core Tank with 2gb ram and a 720p display.
And it's going to be released with 4.2
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_zr-5421.php
Say to least this is an interesting phone.
But i'd still choose Z over it, not only for the 1080p, but for the sleek design, I have never felt so comfortable holding a phone, especially this size.
Water resistance (IP57) is enough for daily use, the ZR is more for industrial use. I can see a lot of companies ordering this out. not so much for the rest.
No LTE? Shame
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not sure if i should hate sony or love them lol
basically it looks like they listened to what people disliked about the Z, and fixed it
for example, glass back, dedicated camera key etc.
but it makes me regret getting my Z T.T
How much do u think will be the price guys?
New N!geR in towN;P
It's basically an Xperia Z with a 720p OptiContrast screen with an oleophobic coating, IP58 rather than IP57, 4.6" screen and quite a bit thicker. Good for those who want to bring this out to swim with and don't have very deep pockets
According to sonymoblie.com it runs 4.1.
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pandaball said:
It's basically an Xperia Z with a 720p OptiContrast screen with an oleophobic coating, IP58 rather than IP57, 4.6" screen and quite a bit thicker. Good for those who want to bring this out to swim with and don't have very deep pockets
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Thicker because of the IP58 certification. No other phone in the world has this
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Thicker because of the IP58 certification. No other high end phone in the world has this
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Fixed.
I don't expect they'll release more close to high-end phone with better features off the flagship phone. Flagship phone should be the first priority to get the updates, get the best of everything. Of course, this is my opinion. Dedicated camera button? there's a mod in the Themes and Apps section of Z which allowed us to snap photo using volume key. IP58 water proof which allows the phone snap underwater photo & videos. Thus, what for they release a well called as flagship smartphone the Z? since there are better waterproof rating phone are releasing, with a dedicated camera buttons. If you guys still remember, Sony said that 4.2.2 update should be coming shortly after launch. Well, they really have their own way in defining "shortly" . I'm pretty satisfied with the design of my Z. I dropped my Z once on the rough floor. The edges on my phone which is light violet in colour get scratched really terribly. My bad for doesn't use a phone case for my phone. I like the design very much without cover or casing.
for conclusion, Sony should not releasing more phones that have better features than the flagship.
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Thicker because of the IP58 certification. No other phone in the world has this
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It might be IP58 but as some of the older more miserable members will tell you this doesn’t mean you should put it anywhere near water. These are the same members whose watches might be water resistance to 20M but they still take it off to go for shower.
LOL, Sony again, make a new phone. What about other phones that need some bug fixing? Why don't they use more time to try to fix bugs etc on previous release and make people happy. For me it sounds like Sony like our complaining and we have to wait for a new firmware/rom release while they are making a new phone, give people time to buy and be happy. What ever we are writing here, they don't care. Where is JB v.4.2.X they have promise? No they just put it on hold and wait for Xperia ZR release.
Xperia Z is a damn good phone, and why can't they use more time to make it perfect??
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LOL, Sony again, make a new phone. What about other phones that need some bug fixing? Why don't they use more time to try to fix bugs etc on previous release and make people happy. For me it sounds like Sony like our complaining and we have to wait for a new firmware/rom release while they are making a new phone, give people time to buy and be happy. What ever we are writing here, they don't care. Where is JB v.4.2.X they have promise? No they just put it on hold and wait for Xperia ZR release.
Xperia Z is a damn good phone, and why can't they use more time to make it perfect??
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You do know Sony isn’t just one bloke in his shed, don’t you?!
There are whole sections of the company who design phones and get them built. Then there are who sections of the company the develop the software and firmware. So I disagree I don’t think Sony have forgotten us I think the 2 guys who work in the software department are just really really lazy, probably spend most of their day on this site.
So we’ll just have to wait as will the XZR owners!
So Sony does it again!! disappointed..! :banghead:
Sent from Sweetheart Xperia Z..
all manufacturers have this strategy... FLAGSHIP PHONE+MIDRANGE PHONES+BUDGETWISEPHONES... right?..
guys any idea about the battery specs on this phone? i am thinking that a good battery capacity will make this phone a super hit!
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Sony have forgotten us I think the 2 guys who work in the software department are just really really lazy, probably spend most of their day on this site.
So we’ll just have to wait as will the XZR owners!
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hehe :good:
How hard would it be to change a "pink" XPERIA ZR frame to a black one???
I can source a "pink" XPERIA ZR at a good price and I appear to be able to get a black Sony replacement case/frame for an XPERIA ZR from China.
Just wondering what I'd be getting myself into, if I attempt a "pink" for black frame swap.
If it means re-gluing a screen/digitiser, I'm not interested,
Also having to 'break' water proof seals may be an issue too.
I had a look around for an XPERIA ZR service manual but can't locate one.
Found a service manual in the XPERIA ZR general section so I'll start reading....
Any thoughts/insight into what a frame swap would mean, would be very helpful, thank you.
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Ah, crap. It looks like the screen is 'glued' to the frame and I'd need a "Disassembly Machine” to remove it.
No crazy people using hair dryers to pry the screen off on Youtube, so I'll put this in to hard basket.
Thanks though, sorry to just be talking to myself on a Q&A thread.
Wow. U're so brave.
OK - the Z Ultra is a GREAT phone [tablet-thing] but its a little too large for my daily use.
See my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2750555
Got it on Amazon yesterday and promptly returning it for a Z1 LTE in white ( Newegg.com is the best price I've found ) :laugh: The Ultra's build quality is top-notch and what has prompted me to get the Z1 LTE; really I want the Z2 but not for my wallet at the moment.
Right now I'm using my LG Optimus G Pro and love the 5.5 size and beautiful display. I feel the Z1 is no downgrade as it also has a great screen + solid glass/aluminum construction over the plastic LG.
First order of business will be:
Remove front screen protector (did this on my Xperia ion last year)
Remove rear glass protector (haven't seen anyone do this)
Rooting and unlocking the bootloader
Look for the "perfect" case that allows me to enjoy the phone's build beauty
Selling my LG
Thoughts or comments greatly welcomed
Hi there guys,
I have a question. I have owned many Xperia Z series phones, ranging from Xperia Z, Z1, Z2 Z3, Z3 Plus and even Z Ultra. Now I have had a problem with the glass disjoining on all these models. I have had multiple versions of the same ones yet after a few months use they all have the same issue, the back glass will start coming off.
I treat my phones really well, always in a case with screen protection on both front and back and also never dropped etc. However, the only phone that never did this to me was my Z1. I am saying was because now I have noticed the glass on the front is slightly coming up on one corner. Its not so big but it is noticeable from a very close distance (refer to photos).
I wonder if the phone is no longer waterproof and is there anyway of fixing this problem (or do I have to send it to Sony). And can I continue using my phone without it getting worse. I'm currently using it just with screen protection on both sides.
hello friends, you believe that the difference between the Z3 and Z5 + is very large, sony forgotten Z3+ by giving priority to the Z5?? today which would you buy?
i am so disappointed with support from sony to z3+ even i have problems with pc companion who no recognizes my device.
what do you think ?
The difference between the Z3+ and Z5 is large I think. The Z5 has dual heat pipes instead of one and a fingerprint scanner. The dual heat pipes are there to handle the Snapdragon 810's heat and the fingerprint scanner is more of luxury at the moment.
Today, I would buy a Z5 compact. I own a Z3+ and I love the way the phone looks and is designed but would like something smaller.
I have both. I like z4 because it glass back and more delicate bezels. It looks like SONY. Z5 is little disapoint for me. With this ugly bezels and "frozen" back glass it loose typical SONY shine. And z4 beats z5 on Antutu. YES it is only synthetic test but more power is more power.And with the last update z4 overheating is reduced.Z5 have a little better camera. And finally I not use this stupid fingerprint sensors.So I prefer Z4.
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I have both. I like z4 because it glass back and more delicate bezels. It looks like SONY. Z5 is little disapoint for me. With this ugly bezels and "frozen" back glass it loose typical SONY shine. And z4 beats z5 on Antutu. YES it is only synthetic test but more power is more power.And with the last update z4 overheating is reduced.Z5 have a little better camera. And finally I not use this stupid fingerprint sensors.So I prefer Z4.
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Are you sure the z3+ beats z5 on antutu I saw many videos, the z5 beats z3+. My friend the z5 overheating the same way like the z3+
I don't think it's a big enough upgrade, honestly.