Xperia ZR announced - Sony Xperia ZR

what do i really want to say is, do Sony such desperate to release new phones ? Sp and now ZR. I'm quite disappointed because ZR have dedicated shutter button and water resistance better than the Z.
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Really? Four phones in 5 months and you're complaining already?
The Z is the ultimate flagship. ZL is a regional alternative. SP is actually much cheaper and targeted at midrange. ZR is for people who want everything the Z has but at a smaller size.
The difference in water resistance between the Z and ZR isn't very big. Most people will also prefer the Z over the ZR in looks too.
If you're scared of updates, the ZR runs on the same hardware and software as the Z and ZL so no need to worry there.

Dont be surprised it's Sony. They release phones quite frequently for high end, Middle range and budget phones every year. And they have been doing this for a while.
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I like that the xperia ZR is waterproof,not water resistance.
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GSMarena claims it being IP58 with a shatterproof glass & Body and released with Android 4.2.
Basically a Quad-core Tank with 2gb ram and a 720p display.
And it's going to be released with 4.2
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_zr-5421.php
Say to least this is an interesting phone.
But i'd still choose Z over it, not only for the 1080p, but for the sleek design, I have never felt so comfortable holding a phone, especially this size.
Water resistance (IP57) is enough for daily use, the ZR is more for industrial use. I can see a lot of companies ordering this out. not so much for the rest.

No LTE? Shame
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not sure if i should hate sony or love them lol
basically it looks like they listened to what people disliked about the Z, and fixed it
for example, glass back, dedicated camera key etc.
but it makes me regret getting my Z T.T

How much do u think will be the price guys?
New N!geR in towN;P

It's basically an Xperia Z with a 720p OptiContrast screen with an oleophobic coating, IP58 rather than IP57, 4.6" screen and quite a bit thicker. Good for those who want to bring this out to swim with and don't have very deep pockets

According to sonymoblie.com it runs 4.1.
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pandaball said:
It's basically an Xperia Z with a 720p OptiContrast screen with an oleophobic coating, IP58 rather than IP57, 4.6" screen and quite a bit thicker. Good for those who want to bring this out to swim with and don't have very deep pockets
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Thicker because of the IP58 certification. No other phone in the world has this

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Thicker because of the IP58 certification. No other high end phone in the world has this
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Fixed.

I don't expect they'll release more close to high-end phone with better features off the flagship phone. Flagship phone should be the first priority to get the updates, get the best of everything. Of course, this is my opinion. Dedicated camera button? there's a mod in the Themes and Apps section of Z which allowed us to snap photo using volume key. IP58 water proof which allows the phone snap underwater photo & videos. Thus, what for they release a well called as flagship smartphone the Z? since there are better waterproof rating phone are releasing, with a dedicated camera buttons. If you guys still remember, Sony said that 4.2.2 update should be coming shortly after launch. Well, they really have their own way in defining "shortly" . I'm pretty satisfied with the design of my Z. I dropped my Z once on the rough floor. The edges on my phone which is light violet in colour get scratched really terribly. My bad for doesn't use a phone case for my phone. I like the design very much without cover or casing.
for conclusion, Sony should not releasing more phones that have better features than the flagship.

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Thicker because of the IP58 certification. No other phone in the world has this
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It might be IP58 but as some of the older more miserable members will tell you this doesn’t mean you should put it anywhere near water. These are the same members whose watches might be water resistance to 20M but they still take it off to go for shower.

LOL, Sony again, make a new phone. What about other phones that need some bug fixing? Why don't they use more time to try to fix bugs etc on previous release and make people happy. For me it sounds like Sony like our complaining and we have to wait for a new firmware/rom release while they are making a new phone, give people time to buy and be happy. What ever we are writing here, they don't care. Where is JB v.4.2.X they have promise? No they just put it on hold and wait for Xperia ZR release.
Xperia Z is a damn good phone, and why can't they use more time to make it perfect??

CiscoX said:
LOL, Sony again, make a new phone. What about other phones that need some bug fixing? Why don't they use more time to try to fix bugs etc on previous release and make people happy. For me it sounds like Sony like our complaining and we have to wait for a new firmware/rom release while they are making a new phone, give people time to buy and be happy. What ever we are writing here, they don't care. Where is JB v.4.2.X they have promise? No they just put it on hold and wait for Xperia ZR release.
Xperia Z is a damn good phone, and why can't they use more time to make it perfect??
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You do know Sony isn’t just one bloke in his shed, don’t you?!
There are whole sections of the company who design phones and get them built. Then there are who sections of the company the develop the software and firmware. So I disagree I don’t think Sony have forgotten us I think the 2 guys who work in the software department are just really really lazy, probably spend most of their day on this site.
So we’ll just have to wait as will the XZR owners!

So Sony does it again!! disappointed..! :banghead:
Sent from Sweetheart Xperia Z..

all manufacturers have this strategy... FLAGSHIP PHONE+MIDRANGE PHONES+BUDGETWISEPHONES... right?..

guys any idea about the battery specs on this phone? i am thinking that a good battery capacity will make this phone a super hit!

BobKatz said:
Sony have forgotten us I think the 2 guys who work in the software department are just really really lazy, probably spend most of their day on this site.
So we’ll just have to wait as will the XZR owners!
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Related

[POLL] Z or ZL which would you choose ?

Hi guys ! Like many of you I've read a lot of reviews and watched videos of this two awesome devices and have a hard time deciding which of them should I get (the price is not a killer factor) . So from the first look I was really impressed by Z's water- and dustproof capabilities as well as it's premium materials (tempered glass etc.) However , I was a bit discouraged with those rubbery plugs hiding all ports. I mean I understand their purpose but firstly I'm a bit afraid that past time they will get cranky or something if use them regulary. Moreover I am constanly loading files through Usb and listening to music , so I will have to open up plugs for mini jack and usb pretty frequently ... That's why I started to give preference to ZL which is plug free and is a bit smaller which is also good point for it . On the dark side I must say that I like Z's back cover way more than ZL's (looks cheaper at least on videos) which is made of plastic ... Can live with it,but I pay a lot of attention for the build quality of the device and just not sure that the plastic cover of ZL will be rock solid as Z's glass (but I hope ) So for now I have this thoughts and my choise meter is like ZL 45% - 55% Z . Share your thouths on this guys I'm sure some of your arguments might help me abd other folks to make the best decision
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Re: Z or ZL which would you choose ?
since you've said that build quality is important i think Z will have bit of an advantage on this front as you yourself know . Moreover i don't think the covered ports would pose much of a hindrance even if you are constantly transferring files via usb - you'll learn to handle it the way it needs to be handled in due time . The only plus of ZL from my point of view is its smaller dimensions (which i personally love). So if i were you Z would have been my obvious choice .
why fix it if it ain't broken ?
The water resistance of the Z was not made for you to shoot pictures while scuba diving but was only made for certain occasions where you need to use the phone to text while standing on an open area and got a broken umbrella lol or in case you drop it to some shallow water. So with those instances even a worn out plugs for the ports would work. On the plastic back cover of ZL can't really say anything as I haven't seen the device close up so cannot comment on how the plastic is built. It could be prone to cracks when dropped unless it's made of some special material.
Also with regards to the tempered glass durability I can't imagine it not breaking/chipping parts of it if it ever fall on a hard concrete but on the Xperia ZL it "may" only bounce off without any damage.
Re: Z or ZL which would you choose ?
Z for me. Water and dust resistance are big deals to me since I've lost 2 phones before to dunking.
That bit of reassurance is fantastic and you wouldn't expect it in a device that looks that sleek.
Z
beeboss said:
Hi guys ! Like many of you I've read a lot of reviews and watched videos of this two awesome devices and have a hard time deciding which of them should I get (the price is not a killer factor) . So from the first look I was really impressed by Z's water- and dustproof capabilities as well as it's premium materials (tempered glass etc.) However , I was a bit discouraged with those rubbery plugs hiding all ports. I mean I understand their purpose but firstly I'm a bit afraid that past time they will get cranky or something if use them regulary. Moreover I am constanly loading files through Usb and listening to music , so I will have to open up plugs for mini jack and usb pretty frequently ... That's why I started to give preference to ZL which is plug free and is a bit smaller which is also good point for it . On the dark side I must say that I like Z's back cover way more than ZL's (looks cheaper at least on videos) which is made of plastic ... Can live with it,but I pay a lot of attention for the build quality of the device and just not sure that the plastic cover of ZL will be rock solid as Z's glass (but I hope ) So for now I have this thoughts and my choise meter is like ZL 45% - 55% Z . Share your thouths on this guys I'm sure some of your arguments might help me abd other folks to make the best decision
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Z... she has a sexy back
Coming from the galaxy s2 i would 100% go for the z over the zl. I want a phone that feels premium but that is also going to last for a 2 year period.
I can see your point about the rubber casing for the ports, but i am hoping they will be of good enough quality not to crack or go loose.
Crucio_ said:
Coming from the galaxy s2 i would 100% go for the z over the zl. I want a phone that feels premium but that is also going to last for a 2 year period.
I can see your point about the rubber casing for the ports, but i am hoping they will be of good enough quality not to crack or go loose.
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I just want the IR blaster on the ZL. will probably go with the Z though, the ZL's back is just not sexy after seeing the Z

[Q] what are the cons of Xperia Z?

I'm going to buy Xperia z in a few days - months, my question is: what have let you down in Xperia Z?
I already know about screen.
I kindly ask people which don't own this phone to not answer.
As I've seen many of the devs are going to buy or already have Xperia z, (im coming from Xperia Play and I've had great developers, most of them have moved to newer device, so I I'm going to do the same).
So to make it quick: what you don't like in your phone?
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I'm going to buy Xperia z in a few days - months, my question is: what have let you down in Xperia Z?
I already know about screen.
I kindly ask people which don't own this phone to not answer.
As I've seen many of the devs are going to buy or already have Xperia z, (im coming from Xperia Play and I've had great developers, most of them have moved to newer device, so I I'm going to do the same).
So to make it quick: what you don't like in your phone?
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The phone is amazing I am happy with everything apart from the camera quality in low light situations, the camera is excellent in outdoor good light photos but poor in my opinion indoors. I would definitely recommend this phone hopefully a update might sort the camera out.
- the phone gets hot when you use it to much
- Screen on time is about 3.5-4.5h
- backside is glass
- the screen doesn't work when full of water
- It is big, sometimes doesn't reach the whole screen with the tumb without moving my hand position.
- camera doesn't always make good pictures.
But how hard you want to value which con is your opinion! IMHO i dislike the glass back... and i wish i had way better battery... but this are dreams.
Get it because it's an awesome phone. Ignore the claims that the screen isn't good. I mean, how retarded do you have to be to complain about the fact that the viewing angle is crap when you hold it at like 5 degree. The colours are way better than on Samsung Galaxy Phones.
Haldi4803 said:
- the phone gets hot when you use it to much
- Screen on time is about 3.5-4.5h
- backside is glass
- the screen doesn't work when full of water
- It is big, sometimes doesn't reach the whole screen with the tumb without moving my hand position.
- camera doesn't always make good pictures.
But how hard you want to value which con is your opinion! IMHO i dislike the glass back... and i wish i had way better battery... but this are dreams.
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I don't know, how many smartphones you had before, but I can assure you that it doesn't get hotter than the competition. Actually, a Galaxy S 2 gets hotter than the Xperia Z. And listing the glass-back as well as the size as a cons (or saying you dislike that) isn't really fair since those features were well known before you decided to buy it. And why would you like to use the screen under water?
In respect to the phone getting hot, I would say this is the same for most smartphones of this ilk. My Desire, Arc and XS, got very hot, but this is considered to be quite normal and nothing to worry about.
The XZ is a wonderful device. It's a noticeable upgrade from my XS and a fair bit bigger, but all in all no complaints.
The only negative points I can think of is that the camera ap starts up quite slow and that you can't change toggles in the notification bar by default.
Those are 2 things that should/could be solved really easy though.
Main things:
1) Camera app is sluggish, as already mentioned
2) Speaker on side - gets blocked by hand so you have to learn a new grip in order to not muffle your music/phone call
3) Power button on middle of right side - if you take a call when the phone's in a car dock doing satnav stuff, the phone (according to how it's set) can lock and turn the display off after the call so you have to try and press the button - which might mean taking the phone out of the dock while driving (or not!). I ended up installing an app that wakes up the phone when I wave near its proximity sensor.
noticed only this when shootin video in dark places and you turn on the light. the light is bad. miss has xperia t and light on her device is much more brighter. also in call volume isnt that great but im sure devs or sony will fix this up (lower volume because water proof cover). camera app is
indeed slow when u run it but i think its because its same app as it was on xperia x1 and didnt get much love
about camera learn basics bout takin pics and set camera to manual you will get great results
about speaker on side .. no problem for me cuz im left handed
about screen dont belive those reviews screen is really great and i mean great
Haldi4803 said:
- the phone gets hot when you use it to much
- Screen on time is about 3.5-4.5h
- backside is glass
- the screen doesn't work when full of water
- It is big, sometimes doesn't reach the whole screen with the tumb without moving my hand position.
- camera doesn't always make good pictures.
But how hard you want to value which con is your opinion! IMHO i dislike the glass back... and i wish i had way better battery... but this are dreams.
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is the battery really bad?
zzcool said:
is the battery really bad?
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I've went to the shop to check it out, most of these cons can be software-fixed.
But my biggest point in cons is
- speaker is crappy when playing music (no bass, I'm comming from xperia play which had 2 stereo speakers and they were great) not fixable
Viewing angles aren't that bad actually, it may be a little bit worse than top phones from other manufacturers but it's not that bad
I'd like to have an opinion from somebody about the battery...
Thanks to everyone for giving me some more advices for checking it out myself
The battery is amazing,playing game for 10 minutes,downloading apps and games from playstore,web browsing,and xda app.it last for 6 hours screen on time.could last for a day with 4 hours screen on.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39094453&postcount=293
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Battery at stand by is excellent can go for 35hr with light use.
Battery at Screen time is good, I can go up to 4 hours.
My only con is screen in bright sun
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Odp: [Q] what are the cons of Xperia Z?
So by saying it lasts 6 hours with screen on this means that it will go from 100% to 0% after 6 hours screen on, right? Well that's not a huge step but it's not bad, thanks
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Have a look at my thread here
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Few doubts regarding Xperia Z..another confused soul!

Hi,
Currently I own HTC One X..I am thinking on upgrading but had few doubts regarding Xperia Z.
1) Any major problem with XZ even after latest updates?
2) Why development hasn't picked up much as this is a flagship device? It was launched long time ago as they say in mobile world.
3) Best choice among HTC one, HTC droid DNA ? Personally i don't think htc one is worth spending 42K...
4) Any design flaws? Is the phone delicate? Can it be used without case? I personally don't like phone with cases
It would be really helpful if my doubts are cleared. I am more inclined towards XZ
Thank You
arpith.fbi said:
Hi,
Currently I own HTC One X..I am thinking on upgrading but had few doubts regarding Xperia Z.
1) Any major problem with XZ even after latest updates?
2) Why development hasn't picked up much as this is a flagship device? It was launched long time ago as they say in mobile world.
3) Best choice among HTC one, HTC droid DNA ? Personally i don't think htc one is worth spending 42K...
4) Any design flaws? Is the phone delicate? Can it be used without case? I personally don't like phone with cases
It would be really helpful if my doubts are cleared. I am more inclined towards XZ
Thank You
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None. As of .423 which is the 4.2.2 update, I cannot say there is any serious problem in the XZ's software. While there could be a couple of minor bugs, it is nothing like the bugs in HTC's software (I've come to the XZ from the Sensation)
I'm pretty sure there's been some, it's not like the Development forums are empty. I would also blame Sony for this. The stock software doesn't leave so much to be expected from the phone. Stock is great, which is why there are tons of mods, but only a few ROMs. Also, 4.2.2 source was only dropped a few days ago, give it some time, I'm sure there will be development.
I gave up on HTC because everything is so annoying and unnecessarily complicated. Why not go with an OEM that supports developers? Sony has been showing great support for the community over the last few months.
Flaps are annoying. Polycarbonate shell is prone to damage from falls. Case and screen protector are highly recommended if you're prone to dropping the phone.
If I may, I'd like to recommend this case that comes with a screen protector for the front. It feels so premium, it feels like a part of the phone
Hope this answers your questions.
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None. As of .423 which is the 4.2.2 update, I cannot say there is any serious problem in the XZ's software. While there could be a couple of minor bugs, it is nothing like the bugs in HTC's software (I've come to the XZ from the Sensation)
I'm pretty sure there's been some, it's not like the Development forums are empty. I would also blame Sony for this. The stock software doesn't leave so much to be expected from the phone. Stock is great, which is why there are tons of mods, but only a few ROMs. Also, 4.2.2 source was only dropped a few days ago, give it some time, I'm sure there will be development.
I gave up on HTC because everything is so annoying and unnecessarily complicated. Why not go with a company that supports developers? Sony has been showing great support for the community over the last few months.
Flaps are annoying. Polycarbonate shell is prone to damage from falls. Case and screen protector are highly recommended if you're prone to dropping the phone.
Hope this answers your questions.
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Thanks for the answers man...few doubts are cleared..
Well i take care of my phones very nicely..i handle them very delicately..so even a small drop would give me an heart attack
So it is fine use without any case? definitely with a screen protector on both the sides
arpith.fbi said:
Thanks for the answers man...few doubts are cleared..
Well i take care of my phones very nicely..i handle them very delicately..so even a small drop would give me an heart attack
So it is fine use without any case? definitely with a screen protector on both the sides
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Yes.
Last design flaw I forgot to mention is that it is one hell of a fingerprint magnet, so a good screen protector is an absolute must!
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Yes.
Last design flaw I forgot to mention is that it is one hell of a fingerprint magnet, so a good screen protector is an absolute must!
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yup..even i heard bout this thing..
I was wondering why the phone has lost resell value?
and many ppl are selling it.. I was wondering why..
if you want me to be honest,
the device does get hot easily and can be a bit uncomfortable in the hand.
what i mean to say is, the HTC one is more comfortable to hold.
xperia z is just a large rectangular thing with sharpish edges :/
spazzy1912 said:
if you want me to be honest,
the device does get hot easily and can be a bit uncomfortable in the hand.
what i mean to say is, the HTC one is more comfortable to hold.
xperia z is just a large rectangular thing with sharpish edges :/
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After a recent update (.253 I think), the "getting too hot" problem has disappeared for me.
I don't stress my cores to maximum though, I rarely play CPU & GPU intensive games. Most of my usage consists of browsing & music.
thanks for replying guys and is the dead pixel problem common?
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thanks for replying guys and is the dead pixel problem common?
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Not at all.. The dead pixels case rarely happens..and it really isn't something to bother about, firmly ask for a replacement if it does lol.. It's 13.1mp after all..
Edit:by dead pixels,did u mean the pixels on the screen or the black spots in the camera?
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[Q] Do you recommend keeping my Xperia Z ?

Hello everybody
This is my first post here, and I need some advice about the Xperia Z.
I have just bought my xperia Z (still sealed but with no warranty or a limited one).
I was looking forward of buying the xperia Z after my xperia neo v was starting to age (great phone btw) . My neo was a great phone, I really liked it and it never let me down. It took alot of abuse and been used to the max, but still standing. I'm a VERY heavy user and I use my phone alot. Although I'm not a heavy gamer but I use my phone to talk, text, organize, playing music, net radio, browsing etc. I'm also not the one who really take care of his phone, I like my phone uncovered, and expected to be able to take some heavy drops and be able to stick into my tight pocket with all of the keys and stuff, with almost invisible scratches.
So after reading the reviews and specifications of xperia Z I was very enthusiastic about this phone. I bought the phone despite that it's out of my budget price ( Thanks mum). But as I roamed into the forums (espically this one) things started to get ugly.
Many people here complained about:
Screen easily cracks
The back panel opens up
And the adhesive used is not heat resistant.
Problem is, I'm supposedly paying alot of money for this durable,advanced and sexy phone, that matches my needs. But right now I'm reconsidering because the two major faults will probably happen to me. First I don't take excessive care with my phone , and I expect the phone to endure some beating . Also I live in a very hot environment so the back panel will defiantly pop. And from what I've hears here Sony customer service sucks.
So what you guys think, should I keep this phone or sell it
Your advise will be highly appreciated
Thanks in advanced
If it is something you plan on dropping then I probably wouldn't recommend this. Maybe the Samsung S4 Active? Still is water and dust proof but the plastics on the Galaxy phones don't break. Screen will still be an issue.
The screen doesn't easily cracks. I was one of the OP for one of the threads. Mine was more of a freak accident.. and if the screen does break the digitizer will most likely break also. Even with that said I'm planning to get another one.
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Well I would recommend xperia v or xperia zr for removable battery, and durability might be better than z.. According to ur needs I suggest sell ur xperia z off. Sorry..
I'm a heavy user too, and live in a hot and humid environment (near Shanghai). I've had no problems whatsoever with this phone. I recommend it.
senseless thread :laugh:
i don't want to be mean, but...
"i like to listen to music, but i like to watch movies as well. shall i buy the new blue ray with my favourite actor, or shall i keep my cd with my favorite singer? what do you suggest?"
Keep the phone.
Remember, what you read on the web are all the people who have had a problem, and while it seems like a lot, it's nothing compared with the number of people who don't have any problems, because they don't go around exclaiming how they have no problems.
All phone have some common defects to a small percentage of users. As far as breaking the glass goes, out of all the top of the line phones it's the least likely to break because the glass has a shock absorbing coating on it. I don't think any others do. Even though you like your phone without a case, how about just a thine bumper around the edge?
The back panel and adhesive issues are very rare, and would most defiantly be covered under warranty.
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Keep the phone.
Remember, what you read on the web are all the people who have had a problem, and while it seems like a lot, it's nothing compared with the number of people who don't have any problems, because they don't go around exclaiming how they have no problems.
All phone have some common defects to a small percentage of users. As far as breaking the glass goes, out of all the top of the line phones it's the least likely to break because the glass has a shock absorbing coating on it. I don't think any others do. Even though you like your phone without a case, how about just a thine bumper around the edge?
The back panel and adhesive issues are very rare, and would most defiantly be covered under warranty.
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[Q] Your Opinion Please ! (on the Xperia Z)

Dear XDA fellows,
I currently have a Galaxy S2 but scratched its screen last Saturday.
I am thinking of buying a new phone with a low budget (less than 400€) and the Xperia Z seems to be a good phone. It looks resistant, has good specs, a big screen, big battery and is waterproof. But in order to make up my mind I need your opinion as long lime users.
Can you please tell me what you think of that device ?
Especially :
- Batter life
- Any major issue
- Resistance to scratches, drops...
- Possibility of easily flashing custom roms / kernels
- Anything I need to know about the phone
Thanks in advance for your help
Cheers
Battery life is far succeeded by Snapdragon 800 devices. The S4 Pro is getting old and doesn't have anywhere near as good the power management. Scratches are not a problem, mine is pristine after over a year, custom ROMs and stuff are easy to get. The headphone jack needs a flap, whereas the Z1/Compact and Z2 are uncovered. The bezels are quite large and the camera processing needs work (Cybershot add-ons by the community are here though). I'd go for the Z1 Compact, performance will be much better with the (still very high quality) 720p screen and much better processor. The camera is the same as in the Z1 (and Z2 if I'm not mistaken). The Z1C also fixed issues regarding the screen viewing angles (I've never noticed any issues with my Z, and have compared it side by side to a Z1).
mastawindu said:
Especially :
- Batter life
- Any major issue
- Resistance to scratches, drops...
- Possibility of easily flashing custom roms / kernels
- Anything I need to know about the phone
Thanks in advance for your help
Cheers
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My Xperia Z experience:
- Been using it for 13 months now
- Never used a case
- Screen protectors on both front and back from day one
- Dropped the phone: twice
Now to answer your questions:
- Battery life: satisfactory. It's on par with most smartphones really. 1 day of intensive use and 2 days of slight use. Surprisingly, after over a year, I didn't notice a drop of battery life.
- Major issues: poor viewing angles, you will get used to it, but it's a bit annoying sometimes.
- Resistance to scratches: if you're going to use screen protectors - nothing to worry about. If you're not going to use a screen protector - you're going to pretty much f... your phone as there a shatterproof film on it, and that gets scratched easily. So just stick the bundled protector on the front and the back and you're ready to go and safe for months. Drops ? Surprisingly resistant. After first drop it suffered a small dent on the side as it hit metal chair support directly. Decond drop - facet front on concrete - nothing happened apart from me having to replace the screen protector. The frame around the phone is ridiculously hard to scratch.
- Custom roms: very easy, full cyanogenmod support - remember that you will lose Bravia engine forever once you onlock the bootloader.
- Anything you need to know: not much really. It's a very good device with some minor flaws and a less then perfect screen. The speaker is not very loud, maybe that. Oh, and KitKat is coming in May.
Would I recommend the phone after using if for almost 14 months ? When I bought it, Sony asked a hefty £549 for it. And for that price, I would say no, at least not now of course. But for ~£300 - as it sells now - I would definitely recommend it if you don't really need the "latest and greatest". It's a good phone with some flaws, but in general a good value for your money.
Would I choose Z over Z1 Compact ? Yes, definitely, because of 5" screen - and this is up to you what size you prefer. Can't go wrong with any of them.
iDroid8 said:
Battery life is far succeeded by Snapdragon 800 devices. The S4 Pro is getting old and doesn't have anywhere near as good the power management. Scratches are not a problem, mine is pristine after over a year, custom ROMs and stuff are easy to get. The headphone jack needs a flap, whereas the Z1/Compact and Z2 are uncovered. The bezels are quite large and the camera processing needs work (Cybershot add-ons by the community are here though). I'd go for the Z1 Compact, performance will be much better with the (still very high quality) 720p screen and much better processor. The camera is the same as in the Z1 (and Z2 if I'm not mistaken). The Z1C also fixed issues regarding the screen viewing angles (I've never noticed any issues with my Z, and have compared it side by side to a Z1).
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Wrong. The Z has a good battery life, the bezels are far from beeing big and it's smooth and has a great build quality.
Also S800 has worse battery life due to the much higher clocks, i'm speaking of experience.
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Ofc what above user has said is true.. Z1 is a flop because of the viewing angles and bad battery life than actual h/w capability.. Due to more power consumption by the s/w.. XZ is far better in terms of power management and build quality than XZ1.. Hence XZ2 is here.. But still doubtful as if it would be a hit or another Z1 itself.. But one should also know that Z has been built well, first of its kind.. Waterproof works very well, but u should be very careful with the flaps and the rubber inside.. And also not a hiccup in the UI, no lags at all.. Battery life is good enough.. Use some battery saving techniques.. And Camera is quite awesome if u use the perfect settings manually although Superior Auto works better only with daylight.. It brings a lot of awesome features if u really like photography.. Camera 2 is one app which made me remove all photo editing apps on my phone.. I love music quality and Movies app supports all video formats which helps a lot.. Display is crisp and with 441ppi and Auto Brightness u can easily be able to use the phone under bright sunlight with not much of a problem.. Also the device has a lot of support from different communities and SONY actually does care for XZ more than XZ1(This is a fact provided by one of SONY devs whom i know).. Hence nothing to worry.. U will not regret buying a XZ.. Just a suggestion, be gentle with flaps.. They arent very friendly..
tOrNadO™ said:
And also not a hiccup in the UI, no lags at all.. Battery life is good enough.. Use some battery saving techniques... And camera is quite awesome... I love music quality and Movies app supports all video formats which helps a lot..
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There's plenty of "lags" in the UI, opening the app draw and closing an ago to get to the homescreen gets regular slowdown. The camera is grainy, nowhere near as good as any competitors. Music quality depends on the files you play, the Walkman app can't suddenly make some crappy, turn-of-the-century downloaded MP3s sound good quality. The movie app definitely doesn't support all formats, that's a lie.
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There's plenty of "lags" in the UI, opening the app draw and closing an ago to get to the homescreen gets regular slowdown. The camera is grainy, nowhere near as good as any competitors. Music quality depends on the files you play, the Walkman app can't suddenly make some crappy, turn-of-the-century downloaded MP3s sound good quality. The movie app definitely doesn't support all formats, that's a lie.
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No lags here [emoji15]
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iDroid8 said:
There's plenty of "lags" in the UI, opening the app draw and closing an ago to get to the homescreen gets regular slowdown. The camera is grainy, nowhere near as good as any competitors. Music quality depends on the files you play, the Walkman app can't suddenly make some crappy, turn-of-the-century downloaded MP3s sound good quality. The movie app definitely doesn't support all formats, that's a lie.
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No lags here too! For me it is smooth and stable.
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iDroid8 said:
There's plenty of "lags" in the UI, opening the app draw and closing an ago to get to the homescreen gets regular slowdown. The camera is grainy, nowhere near as good as any competitors. Music quality depends on the files you play, the Walkman app can't suddenly make some crappy, turn-of-the-century downloaded MP3s sound good quality. The movie app definitely doesn't support all formats, that's a lie.
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You must have somehow messed up your ROM.. But here, as well as the other couple of users never experienced any lag.. Not a hiccup as i say again.. And my Walkman plays all audio formats except for WMA and WAV which are utter poor quality formats hence i don't care.. And also Movies app doesn't play only one format WMV which i also don't care, but till date i have downloaded more than 500 movies atleast.. None of them gave me the problem of Not playing.. All videos play on my device with Movies app itself.. And most importantly, when copying from PC i don't select to convert and copy.. I just copy..
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You must have somehow messed up your ROM.. But here, as well as the other couple of users never experienced any lag.. Not a hiccup as i say again.. And my Walkman plays all audio formats except for WMA and WAV which are utter poor quality formats hence i don't care.. And also Movies app doesn't play only one format WMV which i also don't care, but till date i have downloaded more than 500 movies atleast.. None of them gave me the problem of Not playing.. All videos play on my device with Movies app itself.. And most importantly, when copying from PC i don't select to convert and copy.. I just copy..
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So you watched loads of movies and claimed that it will play every format? Come on, get it together.
I bought mine 2 weeks ago for 308 Euros, brand new. I must say the build quality is excellent. Battery is very good.Display is perfect, also outside.
I am coming from an LG Optimus 2x.which served me for over 2 years without any problems. But the XZ is a complete new experience. I am so happy i went for this one.
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So you watched loads of movies and claimed that it will play every format? Come on, get it together.
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Wt i meant was i never converted any videos.. And it played AVI,MKV,FLV,MP4,etc without probs.. Peace.. :angel:
Bought it !
Hi guys,
Following your good feedback I bought the Xperia Z and I have to say it is an excellent phone. Sony definitely made a milestone with this device, IMHO it surpasses Samsung in terms of quality (hardware and software) and premium feel.
Thanks to everyone who took time to give me some advises in this thread.:good:
tOrNadO™ said:
XZ is far better in terms of power management and build quality than XZ1..
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Z is better than Z1 in build quality? Give me a break man. Z1 is far better in build quality, believe me (I had Z1). Aluminium frame and better glass give a much better feeling of quality and premium look than the Xperia Z (polycarbonate plastics and "plastic" glass).
I dunno about the the build quality but the z has a clean design like a smooth car now they throw some chrome on it and call it z1 and it became ugly again..... It's not always progress.
my name is Luxor, and i'm a flashoholic.
OMC-LUXOR said:
I dunno about the the build quality but the z has a clean design like a smooth car now they throw some chrome on it and call it z1 and it became ugly again..... It's not always progress.
my name is Luxor, and i'm a flashoholic.
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Theres no chrome on Z1, only brushed aluminium. And Z1 is one of the best looking phones in Xperia line out there. Did you even try to hold Z1 and compare it with Z?
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Theres no chrome on Z1, only brushed aluminium. And Z1 is one of the best looking phones in Xperia line out there. Did you even try to hold Z1 and compare it with Z?
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It is figure of speech, yes I owned one to for 3 months and it is a wonderful phone but still I think the z is smoother and cleaner. You can get mad that I do not agree with you.... Some people like flashy things and some don't. I don't.
my name is Luxor, and i'm a flashoholic.
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It is figure of speech, yes I owned one to for 3 months and it is a wonderful phone but still I think the z is smoother and cleaner. You can get mad that I do not agree with you.... Some people like flashy things and some don't. I don't.
my name is Luxor, and i'm a flashoholic.
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I'm not mad, everyone has their own opinion.
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Z is better than Z1 in build quality? Give me a break man. Z1 is far better in build quality, believe me (I had Z1). Aluminium frame and better glass give a much better feeling of quality and premium look than the Xperia Z (polycarbonate plastics and "plastic" glass).
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Plastic glass, my friend.. Less prone to get broken.. I have seen more defective Z1's with broken glass due to heating.. Z's internal design is better.. Z1's internal motherboard circuit has GPU next to CPU and hence heats more.. Z's Camera is next to CPU, hence Z heats more when Camera is ON.. Sony's design in motherboard has to get better..
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Plastic glass, my friend.. Less prone to get broken.. I have seen more defective Z1's with broken glass due to heating.. Z's internal design is better.. Z1's internal motherboard circuit has GPU next to CPU and hence heats more.. Z's Camera is next to CPU, hence Z heats more when Camera is ON.. Sony's design in motherboard has to get better..
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Heating on Z and Z1 during heavy gaming is almost the same, and that is good because Z1 CPU clocks on higher freq. and I never had problem with overheating. I worked in official Sony repair center so you don't need to explain me difference between motherboard design on Z and Z1.
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