Hey everyone, PDAnet is now available for android!
http://junefabrics.com/android/index.php
PdaNet does NOT require root access or hacking your phone's firmware in order to work. It is just a regular Android application that works on all Android phones as-is. Currently this initial version supports USB tethering on the T-Mobile G1 phone. Tethering is secure and will also charge your phone at the same time. Your phone can either connect to 3G data or WiFi.
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It works perfectly, and root access is not required.
Enjoy!
Good find! Works best with Opera browser (other browsers such as IE and Firefox, won't display pictures for some reason...) Has some connectivity issues when using longer than 5 minutes (yes, I have enable usb bugging enabled and stay alive while connected via usb) All and all, a good program for your laptop without draining your G1 or when the REAL internet goes out. Good find! Thanks! Also, incredibly simple to use!!!
EXE installer? WTF?! How does it work? Does the program require something on the computer-end too?
I'm Linux user, so I can't use it?
Yes, it seems to be only compatible with windows. Since you're in linux, you may try running it through WINE to see what happens.
andonnguyen said:
Yes, it seems to be only compatible with windows. Since you're in linux, you may try running it through WINE to see what happens.
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Did you experience the pictures not loading problem also while using IE or firefox?
this doesn't really seem to work yet
I was able to install it without much trouble and the initial connection looked promising (well, some pages came up anyway).
It was basically impossible to connect to Speedtest.net however and Speakeasy only rated my connection at 287/283 kbps at best (the G1 was on WiFi). I tested it again with the G1 on 3G and got a 409/330 kbps (doesn't that seem weird that it would rate better on 3G?) but then it seemed to stop connecting somehow and I had to restart the program and reestablish the connection on the PC. After a few more minutes it happened again. I would call this basically not useful at the moment, but I hope they can work the bugs out and get some decent speed out of it.
For reference, using Tether WiFi to connect to the G1 over 3G Speakeasy rated the connection at 699/316 kbps. And in my experience it's stable/consistent.
As a disclaimer, this was on my work laptop which has some pretty hefty encryption software installed. While this may be the problem, I didn't have any trouble connecting initially (multiple times).
Additional:
Their "reviews" section is just "customer testimonials", as my honest yet critical assessment of the app's inability to perform as intended was NOT posted and they didn't even bother to drop me an email to try to sort out the problem. I hope they can improve on the app, but they're quickly losing my respect and interest.
I just got this. I dl it to my sd card, connect phone to pc w usb, ran exe through windows. Installed program automatically onto phone. Windows asks to install driver for g1 and it does the work from there.
It seems to work ok, the first few tries on my desktop it would disconnect after a few minutes, restarted phone and its been better but still only seems to stay connected for about 20 min, which should be ample time to do alittle websurfing without getting mad about disconnects.
well they might not have replied because they are aware of the problem, and they clearly state that this is beta software. if you look at the known issues the first one is about the connection dropping and having to reconnect.
once they work out the bugs this software will be pretty useful because of how easy it is to use.
if only i could plug the g1 into the 360 would save me $100...or if i could share the connection with my windows media desktop(i use it as a media server for my xbox and its not even close to a internet connection).
i tried to connect it but it does the network doesnt have sufficient MTU settings. xbox live requires a minimum MTU setting of 1364.
darn.
ill be watching for updates though, should be useful once fully operational.
i've been using mine for a while now...no problems once i turn off the wifi switch on my laptop...recently when i plug it in tho, it says PDAnet is expiring soon...is this supposed to be a paid app?
This app is gay... It was pretty good at first... but once the guy updated to r1.5... its been acting gay... it would come up with random blockings... it blocked www.google.com... wtf?... and wikipedia... yahoo answers... so I just got root and installed WiFi Tether for Root users... works way better and doesnt have blocks...
USB tether 4.2.6
This is supposed to be plug and play. A lot of people have said it's great. I have not been so fortunate. Anyway, could someone give me directions on how to use this. 1. plug in phone via USB. 2. settings/wireless settings/ internet tether (on). 3. Go to PC and click on G1Tether click connect. For me this does not work. Help.
This application is a fine hold-over for people who are too stupid to get root, but it is a VERY VERY poor imitation of tethering.
1) A real tethering solution will NOT require proprietary crap to be installed on the CLIENT.
2) Wired or Wireless tether for root users *IS* a *TRUE* plug-it-in-and-it-works solution. Run the program on the phone, plug in the wire, and you're done. No weird nonsense to be installed on the computer.
Hi All
Straight to the point:
Is it possible to create a rom that is very light wieght such that it no longer has the capacity to function as a phone (no phone.apk, no sim reading, no 3g). So it is just a wifi tablet. And in doing so will this free up memory/space/speed up the device.
Basically is it possible, or is it strongly coupled within the android source?
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DarkFlare
I imagine things like phone and mms.apk would be easy to remove, but things like the network location reporting service would be a good deal more difficult.
Settings/Wireless & networks/Mobile networks:
Uncheck "Data enabled"
Settings/Location & security:
Uncheck "Use wireless networks"
Uncheck "Use GPS satellites"
Now set up your wifi connection and you've got exactly what you're asking for.
Removing apks doesn't help performance in any way whatsoever. You free up space in /system, but that's just about it and, since that partition is read-only, there's no benefit to having more free space on it, you wouldn't be able to use it anyway.
Also note, removing TelephonyProvider.apk also has a chance (it did in cupcake back when I had the same stupid idea) of disabling ALL your wireless connections, including wifi.
Seemed like a good idea.
It's like a step in the wrong direction. In this day and age where you can take your internet anywhere, I see no purpose on gimping a device capable from it's wireless data connectivity.
The device supports all of those features (phone, data) so why keep them unused?
I know that for some of us it feel like carrying features we don't use is like carrying extra weight, but, when you thing about it, the features are still there even if you remove access to them...
This might be what you want instead: http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/26/augens-150-android-tablet-hits-kmart-circular-coming-to-store/
Well, what if someone does not need the telephony functions? Disabling them will not remove or unload them from RAM, so it will take same amount of memory, but if he wants to have them unloaded, he's got to remove them.
I think this would be cool. I wanted to do something simliar with my MT3G when I geta new phone so I could basically turn it into my remote control for things like XBMC. Figured fully removing things such as Phone, 3G, Bluetooth, basically only leaving wifi would save heavily on battery.
Then again I guess I could turn all that stuff off as well.
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I think this would be cool. I wanted to do something simliar with my MT3G when I geta new phone so I could basically turn it into my remote control for things like XBMC. Figured fully removing things such as Phone, 3G, Bluetooth, basically only leaving wifi would save heavily on battery.
Then again I guess I could turn all that stuff off as well.
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My thoughts exactly.
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My thoughts exactly.
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edru said:
I think this would be cool. I wanted to do something simliar with my MT3G when I geta new phone so I could basically turn it into my remote control for things like XBMC. Figured fully removing things such as Phone, 3G, Bluetooth, basically only leaving wifi would save heavily on battery.
Then again I guess I could turn all that stuff off as well.
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This is precisely what I am aiming to achieve. Personally I use EventGhost to controll my win 7 pc, but any remote app would do.
jubeh said:
Settings/Wireless & networks/Mobile networks:
Uncheck "Data enabled"
Settings/Location & security:
Uncheck "Use wireless networks"
Uncheck "Use GPS satellites"
Now set up your wifi connection and you've got exactly what you're asking for.
Removing apks doesn't help performance in any way whatsoever. You free up space in /system, but that's just about it and, since that partition is read-only, there's no benefit to having more free space on it, you wouldn't be able to use it anyway.
Also note, removing TelephonyProvider.apk also has a chance (it did in cupcake back when I had the same stupid idea) of disabling ALL your wireless connections, including wifi.
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I understand what your saying however Im not looking to just deprive connectivity. I figure if the phone doesnt have a Sim card then theres no reason for it to have the ability to recieve sms so remove all the apps that are setting up broadcast recievers for sms, and/or the code that is emitting the broadcast reciever for sms. This is just an example. But there must be things that can be removed that relate to the sim/phone side.
The tablet you linked too doesnt interest me at all since its a new device and my goal is to repurpose an old (and loved =P) device.
Any rom devs care to kick in there two cents about how achievable any of this is? Removing apk's just seems partially cosmetic as Im thinking its more core than that.
Also thanks to all who have provided responces, its great to have some discussion about this
I will take a Froyo ROM and strip it for you, some time next week.
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I will take a Froyo ROM and strip it for you, some time next week.
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Sounds ace, could you detail some what your planning on doing? Since Im not planning on retiring my g1 just yet but would love to know the steps to create a rom like that further down the line!
you just need to read the cm wiki and you'll find what you need
SO if I understand it right, you want to make it so your phone cannot connect to any GSM service, am I right? And you would like to be able to still use the internet with wifi. Removing APK's or editing framework or the kernel won't change anything. The only way to completely achieve what you want is installing a radio that only supports wifi. No such radio is currently available. You will have to code your own. lbcoder proved that a mismatching radio+SPL=brick, so if I was you I wouldn't be messing with that. Best advice I can give is to switch to airplane mode.
So basically, you want to use your device like an iPad or iPod Touch? Correct me if i'm wrong.
The real thing I still have a problem with is that, as far as I can tell, OP is still thinking that there's some benefit to removing apps rather than just disabling data.
Sure, you can do it, but there's really no point, no benefit, nothing.
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So basically, you want to use your device like an iPad or iPod Touch? Correct me if i'm wrong.
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If that's the case, and I'm on the right track, then I guess you'd also like the build coming together nicely.
I'm not a fan of force-closes, and if you remove stuff, you're bound to find points in the OS where pressing the wrong thing (for example, on Gallery app, choosing the "send via MMS" option) will give you a force-close.
I guess if you want a MID-esque build that actually comes together nicely (ie, disables all menu options and anything else that would cause a force-close due to just plainly removing apks), then I do guess you have a nice project on your hands.
A straight build from AOSP should give you something close, don't know if you'd want Market and Gapps too.
I guess I'll get your mind jogging. Ok, so imagine you do make such a build, then you're still dealing with the fact that your phone still has the hardware and, because of it's nature (a system-on-chip), the radio, etc, are still consuming battery.
You'll never be able to remove everything and you'll always have that itch for "now how do I get rid of this?"...
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SO if I understand it right, you want to make it so your phone cannot connect to any GSM service, am I right? And you would like to be able to still use the internet with wifi. Removing APK's or editing framework or the kernel won't change anything. The only way to completely achieve what you want is installing a radio that only supports wifi. No such radio is currently available. You will have to code your own. lbcoder proved that a mismatching radio+SPL=brick, so if I was you I wouldn't be messing with that. Best advice I can give is to switch to airplane mode.
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.. one thing to note is that the mismatched radio/spl brick was due to the KERNEL not booting. Things like FASTBOOT still work, and the only reason they are inaccessible is that the MISC partition is telling the SPL to boot recovery.
Something that recently occurred to me is that it may be possible to replace the radio code with something a little more generic, like redboot http://ecos.sourceware.org/ecos/hardware.html . If you disable the radio processor and don't allocate any memory to it (or very very little), you may even be able to reclaim the memory otherwise being lost to it, i.e. the device actually has 192 MB of RAM, but we only have <100 available to Android.
http://ecos.sourceware.org/fom-serv/ecos/cache/27.html
** doesn't that look just perfect?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that the radio processor is exclusively for cell service and that wifi and bluetooth don't depend on it. If this is the case, then you'd be able to use it as a fully functional wifi phone with 192 MB RAM. Even if this is incorrect, read the next paragraph for alternative. Or, of course, a bluetooth or wifi dongle.
A second interesting thought.... USB host mode + UMTS modem = cell phone with cell phone service (or at least VoIP) with 192 MB RAM. Side effect being, of course, that there is a usb dongle duct taped onto the back of the phone, but for adding in close to an extra 100 MB of ram, worth it?
I think that at this point, people should start looking into crazy ideas and weird hacks. Some of this stuff is *DEFINITELY* possible. Even weird things may be possible, like taking over the radio core as a second CPU core (albeit a slower one). Its not like the radio core is a mystery... its an ARM9, so its a simple (eh, in theory) matter of shoving something in that is built for the appropriate instruction set.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that the radio processor is exclusively for cell service and that wifi and bluetooth don't depend on it. If this is the case, then you'd be able to use it as a fully functional wifi phone with 192 MB RAM.
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Hey, if you're willing to give it a shot, I have a G1 that I'm willing to torture to death. I'm not a dev but I can certainly test stuff out and get logs and I don't care if I brick that thing.
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.. one thing to note is that the mismatched radio/spl brick was due to the KERNEL not booting. Things like FASTBOOT still work, and the only reason they are inaccessible is that the MISC partition is telling the SPL to boot recovery.
Something that recently occurred to me is that it may be possible to replace the radio code with something a little more generic, like redboot http://ecos.sourceware.org/ecos/hardware.html . If you disable the radio processor and don't allocate any memory to it (or very very little), you may even be able to reclaim the memory otherwise being lost to it, i.e. the device actually has 192 MB of RAM, but we only have <100 available to Android.
http://ecos.sourceware.org/fom-serv/ecos/cache/27.html
** doesn't that look just perfect?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that the radio processor is exclusively for cell service and that wifi and bluetooth don't depend on it. If this is the case, then you'd be able to use it as a fully functional wifi phone with 192 MB RAM. Even if this is incorrect, read the next paragraph for alternative. Or, of course, a bluetooth or wifi dongle.
A second interesting thought.... USB host mode + UMTS modem = cell phone with cell phone service (or at least VoIP) with 192 MB RAM. Side effect being, of course, that there is a usb dongle duct taped onto the back of the phone, but for adding in close to an extra 100 MB of ram, worth it?
I think that at this point, people should start looking into crazy ideas and weird hacks. Some of this stuff is *DEFINITELY* possible. Even weird things may be possible, like taking over the radio core as a second CPU core (albeit a slower one). Its not like the radio core is a mystery... its an ARM9, so its a simple (eh, in theory) matter of shoving something in that is built for the appropriate instruction set.
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that's so what i (and i think OP here) want. at least the first part. 64 mb of ram reclaimed goes a LONG way to functionality of the device.
the rom should be named G1 Touch ^_^
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that the radio processor is exclusively for cell service and that wifi and bluetooth don't depend on it. If this is the case, then you'd be able to use it as a fully functional wifi phone with 192 MB RAM. Even if this is incorrect, read the next paragraph for alternative. Or, of course, a bluetooth or wifi dongle.
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On MSM7201A, the modem "owns" the bulk of the clock control registers and the PMIC (and thus voltage rail control), and Linux issues low level rpc calls (proc_comm) to the modem to control clocks and power. Also the modem is responsible for handling power collapse and sleep modes.
If you're going to replace the stock modem firmware, you're going to need to somehow provide this functionality in its place, otherwise Linux is dead in the water.
Brian
I couldnt find anything through search so hopefully someone has the knowledge I need so badly .
I am tethering my Droid 1 to ubuntu 10.04 and when I start my Deluge(torrent client) everything works fine and speeds are great and around 800k/bs+. This runs solid for about two minutes and or 250mb d/l then my phone stops tethering. My phone doesn't drop WIFI the tethering just stops. I have to unplug the phone from the computer, close tethering, close wifi wait about 2 mins then start the wifi again and plug back into the computer for everything to work normal again.
I assume my droid needs to have max connections lowered or raised but I have no clue how to do this. Please help.
All specs
Phone: Droid 1
ROM: Cyan 7.0.3
Tethering app: "Wired Tether" & normal tether
OS: Ubuntu 10.04
of course using USB to connect phone to Tower (i have tired different cords)
This seems to happen once I have accumulated 250mb+ down. up is around 150mb
Please help
I've tried this on windows as well my phone will just stop teathering if I have large amounts of traffic anyone know to fix this?
Is this problem just with large amounts of data transfered via torrents or even via other means of file transfer (ftp/http/whatev)
just with torrents
torrents agressively open (and don't close) a lot of tcp connections and the phone acting like a router has to store all those connections. in the end it probably halts some software in your phone.
try lowering total number of allowed connections in your torrent client to one third of your current value, test, come back with a result.
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torrents agressively open (and don't close) a lot of tcp connections and the phone acting like a router has to store all those connections. in the end it probably halts some software in your phone.
try lowering total number of allowed connections in your torrent client to one third of your current value, test, come back with a result.
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So far so good, im past the 250mb down. Well listing to Pandora and active torrents open. Max connections where at 200 I lowered to 60. Thank you, everything seems to be working super good.
Do you know of a way (if even possible) to dump the connections my phone has stored without restarting wifi?
Don't really know, I've had this problem with my "router" (linux box) and it could be set to drop unclosed connetions withing shorter timeout. However I don't think this can be set on a phone so you will have to live with smaller number of connections
I've been playing around with VRidge a lot lately, and it's really cool - being able to play VR games on my computer and stream them to my phone is nice. I'm using the 5ghz wifi streaming method for now and it works great, but... My phone heats up a lot after 10-15 minutes. Through some testing of various non-streaming GearVR games and apps, I can say with some certainty that it's the fact I'm streaming over wifi that's causing my phone to heat up.
So knowing that, I've been trying to get tethering to work. Of course the first thing I did was just try to turn it on in my settings - but Verizon wants another $30/month for the honor, which is just absurd since I'm already paying that for 2 whole gb of bandwidth a month. So with that out the window, I've tried a few other options:
Cyanogenmod Tether
PdaNet+
A method I found here involving Network Signal Refresher
Pulling my sim card (Won't even let me try without a sim card in)
Rooting methods... Obviously can't do any of these because as far as I know, the Verizon Note 5 has yet to be rooted. (Please correct me if I'm wrong)
Needless to say, none of these worked... For RiftCat at least. I've submitted a feature request to utilize a tether app instead of the native tether, but some brief googling makes me think this may not be possible (The developer of a competing project mentioned something along those lines last year).
So, I have a few ideas that I wanted XDA's opinions on:
A "test sim card" - I can pick a few up for a few dollars. Will this allow me to enable usb tethering, or will it check to see if the SIM card is valid / has 5g first?
A usb-to-ethernet cable, plugged into an ethernet card on my computer and hopefully finding a way to make my phone think it's just a wifi connection. Is this even possible? I had the idea an hour ago and haven't had much time to research it.
Drilling holes into my GearVR phone cover, attaching a fan to it, and hoping it can cool my phone's CPU down.
New idea: Get a sim card from a "pay for what you use" service like Ting and turn off mobile data when I use USB tethering... Can this iteration of the Note 5 do that?
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On a related note, is there a more active place I can post this to? I picked this forum because it's specific to my device, but I feel like it's an issue a lot of people have.