It has been more than a year since our device was released, but until now we have not obtained the Kernel Source, so the development of custom systems and custom Kernel is hampered But this is not the real problem, Xioami is breaking the GPL, basically by not releasing the Kernel Source this is a breach of the open source contract that one has to obey when developing devices Who use Android, this post is a protest against Xioami, please protest let's get our rights, Do what's possible, but without spam, we are human and not robots
I'm afraid we can't do nothing about the GPL violation (legally) since Xiaomi is a company based in china
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I'm afraid we can't do nothing about it (legally) since Xiaomi is a company based in china
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the closest thing to it in legality is GNU or Google doing something about it.
If they want to do business in regions that have the gpl, they have to comply to it.
I'm afraid that they only thing that can be done is a class-action lawsuit.
If anyone here knows anything about one being prepared, let me know, I wouldn't mind supporting, maybe even joining.
we are currently planning something bigger, following a study in University of Edinburgh and Trinity College Dublin, One of the devices studied was the Xiaomi, which was discovered that the system's default apps were spying on information and sending it My plan along with some colleagues is to make a post paying a telegram group with more than 150k+ members, and that my theory that also exists A spyware written in the Kernel, being the reason they don't release the Kernel source
In this case, we are organizing ourselves In this group https://t.me/speskernel
Only in that model precisely? Has that been detected in any other products by Xiaomi? Other brands?
That's a very serious accusation.
Besides spes (RN11) there's also FOG(RN10C) and Veux, all of them didn't have the Kernel Source released for no apparent reason, well it's just my theory apart from the Kernel but within the accusations Previous I don't think it's impossible
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we are currently planning something bigger, following a study in University of Edinburgh and Trinity College Dublin, One of the devices studied was the Xiaomi, which was discovered that the system's default apps were spying on information and sending it My plan along with some colleagues is to make a post paying a telegram group with more than 150k+ members, and that my theory that also exists A spyware written in the Kernel, being the reason they don't release the Kernel source
In this case, we are organizing ourselves In this group https://t.me/speskernel
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I cannot enter this Telegram link (Telegram says the user @speskernel does not exist)
Hi all, We just starting petition at here
Please join us.
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Moderators, please feel free to move this to another forum if it doesn't fit here.
There are currently no Usenet groups for Android software or supported trans-coded video files. There are advantages to hosting these files on Usenet, rather than on this, or other websites. Please PM me if you would like to hear my opinion. I will not discuss this openly.
I would like to propose one be created, but actual new group additions to Usenet are a pain in the rear and require a community backing.
Is anyone else here familiar with the process?
I have never added a group myself, but I have worked for a Usenet provider and know that it is not a simple process. It would require a proposal in the alt.control newsgroup, as well as a discussion and justification of the group between supporters and the ISC (www.isc.org). For this, we need people to speak up and support our group in the alt.control newsgroup.
Notice how I say OUR group. I propose the group be un-moderated, because suggesting a moderated group requires a lot more organization, time, and discussion before the ISC will consider the addition.
Again, if anyone has actually undergone the addition of a new group, please speak up. If no one has, but people are interested, I will try to work with Usenet assistance groups on getting a group added.
Thoughts?
I'd be surprised if a quarter of this forum knows what a newsgroup is.
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I'd be surprised if a quarter of this forum knows what a newsgroup is.
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Ahh, well if there is not a community interest, I won't pursue it. In my opinion, the brightest people use this site, so I'm only posting here.
I guess then, I am one of the 25%. I gave up on usenet years ago when the content to spam ratio got too bad.
I still grin when I think of alt.barney.die.die.die
I guess it all depends on what exactly the OP wants out of a newsgroup. These days most interest groups / communities on the internet form around http-based services like forums and bulletin boards. There are also hybrid http/email mailing list type things. Generally the whole of the Android community is well served by these tools already. Between the various fansites (phandroid, androidguys, etc), the Google android-discuss groups, xda-dev, and #[email protected], I think there are plenty of points on the internet as-is for all comers alike.
Of course, then theres the modern-day usage of usenet, which is not so much discussion-centric rather than a no-holds-barred haven for digital piracy and pretty much every kind of porn under the sky.
ok folks due to the fools in here constantly tormenting for source i dont have i have had my honeystreak post locked, and since i am absolutley sick of xdas stupid rules now im moving everything over to a far better forum.
I doubt this post will be allowed to stay here simply because its advertising, but i personally dont care, im sick of xda and their stupid rules
GPL is nothing to do with "xda's stupid rules". We simply enforce the requirements set out by the GPL. As a kernel developer, you more than most, should know that the source is required when you post a modified kernel, as you have done.
We don't "go picking" on anyone in particular. We deal with all devs who are in the same position, as we come across them.
Big phones house such Samsung, Dell, HTC well for make it shortly, everyone that use Linux code in their Kernel devices, are forced to pubblic their source in compliant with GPL, rules so we are, i don't see the point why developers that use a big site like this think that they can skip this GLOBAL rule.
We didn't ask you who/where/when and how you did grab that source, we don't care about it, we only requested you to post the source even in a GITHUB form or a zip file uploaded in some anonymous server such Multiupload.
What dvelopers like you don't understand is that we aren't try to go angainst you, check the name of this site, XDA-Developers, this community was founded on developers, so we love and respect all your works but you MUST follow the line, GPL is not a thing that should be skipped and as The_scotsman said, as a kernel developer you must know this.
That's said, we are sorry that you have decided to leave us, seeing comments you are a good developer like all the majority here on XDA us but sometimes these such a things happens when you a trying to let people follow the rules.
Don't blame us for what is happened, Richard Stallman is the man to blame here and don't worry for this thread, as far as you will not try to advertise your new "home" this will be not closed and if in future you will change your idea you will be always welcome here.
Hello everyone, i found this link to a petition from a signature of a senior member somewhere in the galaxy s II forum, but after clicking the link, I found out that it was a petition for samsung to completely make android more open to the public and so that developers could have a less hard time in porting new roms, customizing their devices, etc. Just click the link to learn more. Thanks http://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-mobile-help-third-party-development-achieve-full-potential-of-purchased-devices#
EDIT: Here are the exact reasons posted in that petition site, none of the words used will be coming from me, all of the words inside the quotation marks will be the property of the linked site I have given above.
"Samsung Mobile releases many mobile devices worldwide, yet has an unfortunate reputation for being somewhat slow to update devices to the latest firmware version. This leaves users open to security vulnerabilities, which is detrimental to the experience of paying users.
We, the undersigned, petition Samsung Mobile to release as much as is possible to third party developers (in particular, driver libraries and source headers) in order to allow users to obtain full functionality of the device they have paid for, and further the principles of free open source software (FOSS)."
Even though Kernel Source is released
GitHub - MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource at star-r-oss
Xiaomi Mobile Phone Kernel OpenSource. Contribute to MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource development by creating an account on GitHub.
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why there's no custom rom yet?
My guess is the price point.
Higher price - less people buy it in total. I can assume that fewer users mean fewer developers, and less interest when the market for your ROM is smaller.
If there's a technical explanation, I'd be glad to learn.
well i have a fund raising for a dev to get a Mi 11 Pro (shares the same development as Ultra) but it's not that active. Did the same for Mi 10 Community and ROMs were shared after some months like this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-11-0-umi-project-404-rippa-official-28-11-2020.4196093/
(same developer)
jaggub4u said:
Even though Kernel Source is released
GitHub - MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource at star-r-oss
Xiaomi Mobile Phone Kernel OpenSource. Contribute to MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
why there's no custom rom yet?
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Ya its a shame... I did not thought this when i bought it.
I love this phone, really... But im close to say goodbye to it and Xiaomi
BigDisplay said:
Ya its a shame... I did not thought this when i bought it.
I love this phone, really... But im close to say goodbye to it and Xiaomi
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To be honest the mi11 u was a total mess. Still has heating issues, battery is running empty as soon as you unlock the device, camera ist still way under its potential and so on. This was my 10th Xiaomi but definitely the last one. I don't want a phone which performs good on paper only. 1200€ for such a disappointment
The mi11 u is crap and anybody who says differently has never used a good phone.
The gn2 is beaten by the gn1 in vivo devices, the s21u has 5000 mAh too but lasts like 3 hours more, the s21u has the better zoom, software on the global version takes weeks for a security update, the tiny display on the rear still can't be used for video calls or filming, etc.
Software is the biggest Probleme on Global devices tho because Xiaomi thought it is a good idea to throw 2000 devices on the market.
Xiaomi promised so much but delivered nothing.
I happen to like my 11 Ultra, but that's an *drumroll* opinion! We're all entitled to one.
And this isn't even the topic. We're discussing the lack of roms and possible reasons for it - I'm sure that there are threads about personal opinions and thoughts.
Even if you don't like a certain device, please respect the fact that some of the people here spent money on it, don't come here with the intent of having their choices bashed and specifically for this thread - looking for ways to improve their experience. No need to shove anyone's nose into anything.
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I happen to like my 11 Ultra, but that's an *drumroll* opinion! We're all entitled to one.
And this isn't even the topic. We're discussing the lack of roms and possible reasons for it - I'm sure that there are threads about personal opinions and thoughts.
Even if you don't like a certain device, please respect the fact that some of the people here spent money on it, don't come here with the intent of having their choices bashed and specifically for this thread - looking for ways to improve their experience. No need to shove anyone's nose into anything.
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After spend lot of time with custom rom, i still cant live with them. It always have some bugs that sometime will break my mind when i need to use. So i comeback to stock rom again and again. Custom rom now will be need for older phone, which lack of official update
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To be honest the mi11 u was a total mess. Still has heating issues, battery is running empty as soon as you unlock the device, camera ist still way under its potential and so on. This was my 10th Xiaomi but definitely the last one. I don't want a phone which performs good on paper only. 1200€ for such a disappointment
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Used S21 plus, moved to Mi 11U then bought Fold 3 cause used MI 11 U too long ( 6 months) , back to Mi 11U now. I am using xiaomi.eu stable 13 version and very satisfy with it. Sorry for my bad English.
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