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It has OLED, popup camera, underscreen FP, and the price is amazing
So why is the scene so small? so little ROM support?
Just asking
MGREX said:
It has OLED, popup camera, underscreen FP, and the price is amazing
So why is the scene so small? so little ROM support?
Just asking
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I'm asking the same questions. I mean, not even the newer XT has it all.
But perhaps because of it got squished by tons of new devices this year, devices that is given more promotion funds thus more the hype.
I just bought this device few days ago. I waited a couple of months so that the price dropped. Got this for basically USD$200
Weird because the XT and X2 are everywhere on youtube, maybe realme stopped production because of costs? that popup camera cant be cheap to make
I was about to buy it but I heard the stock ROM is reaaaaally bad, did realme say if its going to get official android 10?
And again if there was better custom ROM support I would buy this in a second
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Weird because the XT and X2 are everywhere on youtube, maybe realme stopped production because of costs? that popup camera cant be cheap to make
I was about to buy it but I heard the stock ROM is reaaaaally bad, did realme say if its going to get official android 10?
And again if there was better custom ROM support I would buy this in a second
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I hear ya. I'm currently on candyrom and it's very stable, currently my daily driver without any problems, and excellent battery life .. It's just on the first build so there are few wrinkles to be ironed out, realme has handed out devices to developers so expecting a stable solid build soon ?
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Weird because the XT and X2 are everywhere on youtube, maybe realme stopped production because of costs? that popup camera cant be cheap to make
I was about to buy it but I heard the stock ROM is reaaaaally bad, did realme say if its going to get official android 10?
And again if there was better custom ROM support I would buy this in a second
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Make sense. They must be loosing money on this device, thus they ditched the pop up cam and return to the drop.
But for me the stock ROM is rock solid. For the first time, I kept coming back to the stock ROM rather than all of the custom ROMs I've tried. Not that the custom ROMs are bad, it is just I keep on missing features of the stock ROM.
That said, I do wish that more dev would come in and create more and better custom ROMs for this great device.
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It's been months since device has been handed to developers but still I can't see any great support except lineage os by @SagarMakhar
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Make sense. They must be loosing money on this device, thus they ditched the pop up cam and return to the drop.
But for me the stock ROM is rock solid. For the first time, I kept coming back to the stock ROM rather than all of the custom ROMs I've tried. Not that the custom ROMs are bad, it is just I keep on missing features of the stock ROM.
That said, I do wish that more dev would come in and create more and better custom ROMs for this great device.
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Which features are on the stock ROM that AOSP lacks?
mitzl02 said:
It's been months since device has been handed to developers but still I can't see any great support except lineage os by @SagarMakhar
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Theres official lineage now? thats actually good news
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Which features are on the stock ROM that AOSP lacks?
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Mainly, the full-functionality of the stock camera app.
EDIT: Now I'm rocking AospExtended plus the latest GCam mods, so good by ColorOS!
realme 3 pro user hereee
minahasa said:
Mainly, the full-functionality of the stock camera app.
EDIT: Now I'm rocking AospExtended plus the latest GCam mods, so good by ColorOS!
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Any bugs? is everything working?
This is my first mobile after a lollipop, and I am proud of it.
Hi all, what do you think is 7 Pro 5G worst model due to NO support from custom roms? I can not find even one custom work to support this phone, and to be honest I would like to replace it asap for anything with AOSP support ;/
joloxx9joloxx9 said:
Hi all, what do you think is 7 Pro 5G worst model due to NO support from custom roms? I can not find even one custom work to support this phone, and to be honest I would like to replace it asap for anything with AOSP support ;/
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Why not debloat?
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Why not debloat?
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Got it debloated but how can you compare it to custom Rom and kernel?
Why would you state a phone is the worst model ever strictly based on a lack of custom ROMs? The availability of ROMs has nothing to do with the capability the phone model has. If you want custom ROMs, you could always do the work to make them. If you don't have the knowledge, there are plenty of devs that have provided help to many on this forum, and I'm sure that you could get help if you're willing to spend the time and put in the effort.
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Why would you state a phone is the worst model ever strictly based on a lack of custom ROMs? The availability of ROMs has nothing to do with the capability the phone model has. If you want custom ROMs, you could always do the work to make them. If you don't have the knowledge, there are plenty of devs that have provided help to many on this forum, and I'm sure that you could get help if you're willing to spend the time and put in the effort.
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As oneplus phones are great for custom firmware and I always buy them because of it. In this case 5G model is just a piece of rubbish as there is literally NO support from devs. You say do it on my own? Yeah I would like to have few hours of spare time every day to play with it, but as I do not have that time I have to sell the phone and buy something "normal".
joloxx9joloxx9 said:
As oneplus phones are great for custom firmware and I always buy them because of it. In this case 5G model is just a piece of rubbish as there is literally NO support from devs. You say do it on my own? Yeah I would like to have few hours of spare time every day to play with it, but as I do not have that time I have to sell the phone and buy something "normal".
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I understand your concern but if you look in the correct place TG you will find it. ??
What do you mean not compatible? Because bootloader locked? Or is the hardware different? I managed to unlock bootloader, but have not yet tried to flash a ROM. Are you saying a regular ROM will not work for the OP7 Pro just because it's the 5G version? (I don't need 5G anyway if that's the only problem with 5G OP7).
Hey fellows,
as I'm considering to buy a Redmi Note 10s, is there any custom rom/twrp/other available for this device?
I sadly could not find any useful information.
Regards
me too, still waiting something from 10s... sadly no development going
This just happens way too often for me in particular i pickup a phone that is from the redmi note series which falls in between the pro and redmi range which then gets overshadowed by pro model with more people developing for the pro and pro max variants
I would also like to know if there is anything going on wrt custom roms for this device. I am looking to buy this device if there will be custom rom support eventually.
b1boi said:
This just happens way too often for me in particular i pickup a phone that is from the redmi note series which falls in between the pro and redmi range which then gets overshadowed by pro model with more people developing for the pro and pro max variants
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That is true. But recently in amazon India's annual sale, note 10s was available for as low as INR12500 (~$168) after all the discounts for the base 6GB/64GB variant which makes it one of best (specs wise) in this price range. Hence the hope that with so many buyers, some development progress, we would be able to see.
Another problem now-a-days with Mi (and even other brands) phones in India is that they deviously increase the prices post ~2 weeks of launch by minimum INR500 or more (which can be make or break for budget cautious buyers like me). Hence waiting for a custom roms might ironically mean paying more for the device later.
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That is true. But recently in amazon India's annual sale, note 10s was available for as low as INR12500 (~$168) after all the discounts for the base 6GB/64GB variant which makes it one of best (specs wise) in this price range. Hence the hope that with so many buyers, some development progress, we would be able to see.
Another problem now-a-days with Mi (and even other brands) phones in India is that they deviously increase the prices post ~2 weeks of launch by minimum INR500 or more (which can be make or break for budget cautious buyers like me). Hence waiting for a custom roms might ironically mean paying more for the device later.
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I'm planning to buy this phone does this have Netflix and Amazon support
asking because a reviewer said he didn't get amazon and Netflix installed
garethdk said:
I'm planning to buy this phone does this have Netflix and Amazon support
asking because a reviewer said he didn't get amazon and Netflix installed
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My RN10s came with both, Amazon and Netflix, and if its not, you can install both apps from play store.
If there is anyway that we can setup a pool/account to pay to the developer(s), I am happy to contribute my bit. If this is ok, experts/pros please advise.
Really looking for some help with custom rom for this otherwise awesome device. Just need to get rid of stock rom.
garethdk said:
I'm planning to buy this phone does this have Netflix and Amazon support
asking because a reviewer said he didn't get amazon and Netflix installed
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I think your question was already answered. In addition, If you were looking for widevine certification for consuming fhd content - yes note 10s is widevine l1 certified, so all good.
However, all that is secondary, this thread is primarily for discussion on custom rom development.
GildroY said:
If there is anyway that we can setup a pool/account to pay to the developer(s), I am happy to contribute my bit. If this is ok, experts/pros please advise.
Really looking for some help with custom rom for this otherwise awesome device. Just need to get rid of stock rom.
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Same question here. Who does those ROMs? Are they for hire? What's missing? Is there a public repo with work in progress almost working ROMs? How does that usually go? Or do devs drop binaries out of nowhere? I assume it has to be rather transparent for security reasons already.
I would also be willing to chip in.
If you want billion custom roms, dont buy MTK cpu phone :c
Better buy qualcomm
gamersfan said:
If you want billion custom roms, dont buy MTK cpu phone :c
Better buy qualcomm
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And if I did the mistake of buying this phone and would rather pay for a public good than for a second phone? I'd happily pay $300 for this rom but have no idea if it's rather $30k away from being available or if somebody has it done already and just was too lazy to upload.
gamersfan said:
If you want billion custom roms, dont buy MTK cpu phone :c
Better buy qualcomm
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Sometimes buying the phone is based more on it being a 'value for money' proposition. 'Less Money spent' ranks higher than the 'processor brand' for a similar spec processor (in this case better processor at almost similar price ~INR13k/~$170 USD, when compared to note 10 or realme 8-which is useless because of no root possible ever) with a hope that with the device being cheap, a lot of developers will get interested.
It might not be the case with everyone, but i believe, will apply to most of the people out there who want to change devices constantly for cheap.
No TWRP (yet) --> No custom ROM
So, wait for TWRP ...
murigny64 said:
No TWRP (yet) --> No custom ROM
So, wait for TWRP ...
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Are you developer
no, I am no longer. I stopped in Marchmallow
murigny64 said:
No TWRP (yet) --> No custom ROM
So, wait for TWRP ...
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Might be a dumb question. Forgive my ignorance, but who can help with TWRP for this device? Is there some place where we can request one?
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Might be a dumb question. Forgive my ignorance, but who can help with TWRP for this device? Is there some place where we can request one?
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Hi, currently i am working on it. It booted however there is a problem, data stays encrypted. Even after format data it still doesn't work. This is because this device uses keymaster 4.1. As i know there is currently no other fix (well i saw something on twrp's gerrit but i am not sure it will work) so you probably should wait a bit more.
Ok we will wait
Teamwin release TWRP to 3.5.2, and it's now compatible with Android 11
Work in progress .....
No custom ROMs. Stupid Xiaomi please release the source and kernel. We are past 4 months and nothing till now. Oneplus 9 pro on the other hand released 5 days before this phone and I see 10+ custom roms in the forum already. Such a great phone with so much user reach and xiaomi doesnt care about software. Only people from China are getting updates every 3 weeks or so (iam not talking about xiaomi.eu rom). Completely neglected Global rom and India rom.
Issue with this company is: It releases 10+ phones in the same price range with different hardware every 6 months and forgets about software completely. If you cant update the software, release the source and kernel for developers atleast!
Agreed
Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change
definitely.
They did release kernel sources.
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource
More specific
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/star-r-oss
easy easy bro, calm da f*** down.
it's all have a solution, why don't you focus on what actually you using phone for? like play game, multitasking, or take a photo ,etc..
so, let take some experience with another users like me, why you dont try MIUI MIX (MMX Team) it's not bad because it's base on EU ROM.
hungragezone said:
Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change
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I can create a 5 hour video with all the bugs that I have on xiaomi.eu rom. Its not perfect if you don't look at it in that way. Iam a developer myself and i dont look at things like a end user does. Sorry if i hurt your feelings.
Schumi_wk said:
They did release kernel sources.
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource
More specific
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/star-r-oss
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Good to hear. I don't see any developers working on this phone though?
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Good to hear. I don't see any developers working on this phone though?
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How do sales compare to s21u or the one plus 9 pro ?
I think the global variant is overpriced tbh.... especially for a Xiaomi phone
Apple can get away with ridiculous prices and even Samsung to some degree but Xiaomi doesn't ring synonymous with prestige flagship grade experience
They're the cheap and cheerful brand...
My friend bought a Poco f3 yesterday and it's a great phone for it's price
speedtripler said:
How do sales compare to s21u or the one plus 9 pro ?
I think the global variant is overpriced tbh.... especially for a Xiaomi phone
Apple can get away with ridiculous prices and even Samsung to some degree but Xiaomi doesn't ring synonymous with prestige flagship grade experience
They're the cheap and cheerful brand...
My friend bought a Poco f3 yesterday and it's a great phone for it's price
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iam guessing as all the phones are global this is the order of sales Oneplus 9 Pro > 11 Ultra > S21
hungragezone said:
Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change
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Aren't we supposed to talk about it? I personally would prefer a custom rom like LineageOS over MIUI anytime.
Good for you, you are satisfied with it... i am not. And i totally agree with the thread-owner, i start to hate it too.
I don't hate my phone, I just hate Chinese Firmware. Now I'm waiting for Bootloader and will install Xiaomi.eu
Agreed. Never seen something as horrible as MIUI. Nothing but stupid effects.
If i knew that beforehand, I'd never had bought a xiaomi.
And no, the .eu rom doesn't fix any of its problems.
Ridley8819 said:
Agreed. Never seen something as horrible as MIUI. Nothing but stupid effects.
If i knew that beforehand, I'd never had bought a xiaomi.
And no, the .eu rom doesn't fix any of its problems.
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What is your problem?
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What is your problem?
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Well, he can probably make a 5 hour video about that and attach here.
Unbelievable how ignorant (not to say different word) you should be to buy a phone than wait and hope for a custom rom (even though nobody on planet earth promised one).Than you go online and trashtalk the company, the phone and so on,only reason being your own wrong choice.
This is pure stupidity at its best.
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iam guessing as all the phones are global this is the order of sales Oneplus 9 Pro > 11 Ultra > S21
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S21 > Oneplus 9 pro > Something Else > Mi11 Ultra. There. I fixed it for you
Not sure why you get personal here.
I always had phones using a clean and functional OS. I knew that the asian customers prefer it more colorful and I expected exactly this. But what Xiaomi delivers with MIUI is a slap for everyone not deepdiving into their software beforehand.
Why is a compass app installed systemwise? Yes you can disable it and even uninstall it via adb. Why can't you hide apps in the drawer? Lets say I dislike their contacts app and want to use another one, I then have to have both on the drawer without the ability to hide theirs (yes, you can hide some non-system apps behind the app-lock). Why does Onehanded Mode not work with gestures? Why do they force you to wait for 7 days before you can unlock the bootloader and why do you need a sim-card in the phone for this and give them your number?
The "cleaner" app does nothing but spying, even worse that such software doesn't even (ever) work on Linux based OS. Not mentioning the "security" app that is another piece of scam software they integrated some system relevant services into while on the other hand, blocking essential android services and thus create a lot of issues non-existant on other devices.
If you ask me, MIUI as a whole is nothing but a scam. Google sniffing apps can at least be disabled, no chance for the Xiaomi ones.
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Unbelievable how ignorant (not to say different word) you should be to buy a phone than wait and hope for a custom rom (even though nobody on planet earth promised one).Than you go online and trashtalk the company, the phone and so on,only reason being your own wrong choice.
This is pure stupidity at its best.
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So well do you mean 'if you need a phone with custom rom, just buy it after custom roms are released for that phone'?
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No custom ROMs. Stupid Xiaomi please release the source and kernel. We are past 4 months and nothing till now. Oneplus 9 pro on the other hand released 5 days before this phone and I see 10+ custom roms in the forum already. Such a great phone with so much user reach and xiaomi doesnt care about software. Only people from China are getting updates every 3 weeks or so (iam not talking about xiaomi.eu rom). Completely neglected Global rom and India rom.
Issue with this company is: It releases 10+ phones in the same price range with different hardware every 6 months and forgets about software completely. If you cant update the software, release the source and kernel for developers atleast!
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Here's the reality, there really isn't that much demand for custom roms. However, there are two that I know of, Xiaomi.eu and MIUI MIX. ONE OS may also have one, but I am not sure on that though. And even though you do need kernel info, you can't expect them to release the proprietary info regarding the rear screen and other features. So even if a rom could be made, there are many things that the developers would not be able to make work. For example, the Mi 10 Pro went the greater part of a year before one started to see custom roms for it. Custom roms, back in the day, were updated regularly and in some cases nightly. Now the original rom and security update can be several months old and it might also be several months before a new version appears. In my opinion, it's really not worth it nowadays and the most of the devs seem to have found that out too.
As for their marketing, I too feel they release to many phones, but apparently it's working as they have become number one in the world.
What skills or things do I need other than the phone in question to be able to develope a custom-rom for this phone? I would be interested to learn more about this.
Makkekakke said:
What skills or things do I need other than the phone in question to be able to develope a custom-rom for this phone? I would be interested to learn more about this.
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Lots of knowledge and time and Linux.
Xiaomi 12 pro has A/B partitions which does not facilitate the task
Sample guide.
https://www.androidauthority.com/build-custom-android-rom-720453/
Thanks @NOSS8
I'm okay with spending time on projects that i would use or share with others and linux is not a new thing to me neither.
The other questions is does this phone have all neccesary components etc avaible to develop a rom for it as well?
I have seen and used xiaomi.eu but it is kinda the same as oem rom but extra goodies from china rom and all agressive battery saving options still remain killing all apps.
Makkekakke said:
Thanks @NOSS8
I'm okay with spending time on projects that i would use or share with others and linux is not a new thing to me neither.
The other questions is does this phone have all neccesary components etc avaible to develop a rom for it as well?
I have seen and used xiaomi.eu but it is kinda the same as oem rom but extra goodies from china rom and all agressive battery saving options still remain killing all apps.
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Source code here.
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/zeus-s-oss
"all agressive battery saving options still remain killing all apps'
There are settings for that.
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There are settings for that.
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I have still missed notifications, apps are getting killed etc when following https://dontkillmyapp.com/xiaomi
But thanks for helping
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I have still missed notifications, apps are getting killed etc when following https://dontkillmyapp.com/xiaomi
But thanks for helping
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For important notifications, for example google messages:
Battery saver: no restrictions
Automatic start: yes
Permissions: all.
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Source code here.
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/zeus-s-oss
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I assume this is almost everything i need?
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I assume this is almost everything i need?
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Not sure that's enough.
I'm seeing with a developer for an AOSP rom, I'll let you know.
So,the answer:
Hi, have checked and no trees or kernel yet for this device.
Would be able to make but atm not much time. Once trees and kernel would be available though building like crDroid would be no problem.
Following this answer I provided with 2 Github links.
https://github.com/MiCode/vendor_qcom_opensource_wlan/tree/zeus-s-oss
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/zeus-s-oss
Atm it will be a no. Not sure how it will go in time.
Ofc thx for the offer and maybe we'll speak each other soon.
I contacted 5 others developers.
1/Too busy.
2/Too busy.
3/Too busy.
4/Waiting for a response
5/Waiting for a response
Thanks for informing!
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Thanks for informing!
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What happened to crowdfunding activity
sinz0000 said:
What happened to crowdfunding activity
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Abandoned project.
NOSS8 said:
Abandoned project.
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Reason?
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Reason?
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No news from the developer who had accepted.
Coming from Oneplus phones going all the way back to the 2, I knew jumping to this phone it wasn't going to be the same development experience. But I can tell you from years of watching forums and development that this phone is DOA for development. If anything was going to happen it would have happened long before now like in the spring.
We will be dependent upon official Xiaomi releases supplemented by the Xiaomi.EU customization for as long as we own this phone. There will never be a custom rom. Accept that or get a Pixel 7 before the sale is over.
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Coming from Oneplus phones going all the way back to the 2, I knew jumping to this phone it wasn't going to be the same development experience. But I can tell you from years of watching forums and development that this phone is DOA for development. If anything was going to happen it would have happened long before now like in the spring.
We will be dependent upon official Xiaomi releases supplemented by the Xiaomi.EU customization for as long as we own this phone. There will never be a custom rom. Accept that or get a Pixel 7 before the sale is over.
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The biggest problem with this phone is the autonomy even with a Xiaomi Eu rom, maybe with an AOSP it would have been better.
Performance and autonomy, difficult to reconcile the two despite what Qualcomm says and given the comparisons with other Socs.
More performance and better battery life of course, but the reality is different, all of this is just commercial, note that almost all brands that will use the Gen 2 switch to larger batteries, while it is said that it will consume less than the Gen 1, amazing isn't it?
The optimization also seems to have been abandoned by Xiaomi too busy selling its multitude of phones.
As far as development is concerned, the phone is expensive and despite the source code being released 1 month after its release, it is incomplete.
Currently the flagships all have the same problem, autonomy.
NOSS8 said:
The biggest problem with this phone is the autonomy even with a Xiaomi Eu rom, maybe with an AOSP it would have been better.
Performance and autonomy, difficult to reconcile the two despite what Qualcomm says and given the comparisons with other Socs.
More performance and better battery life of course, but the reality is different, all of this is just commercial, note that almost all brands that will use the Gen 2 switch to larger batteries, while it is said that it will consume less than the Gen 1, amazing isn't it?
The optimization also seems to have been abandoned by Xiaomi too busy selling its multitude of phones.
As far as development is concerned, the phone is expensive and despite the source code being released 1 month after its release, it is incomplete.
Currently the flagships all have the same problem, autonomy.
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Coming from Oneplus phones going all the way back to the 2, I knew jumping to this phone it wasn't going to be the same development experience. But I can tell you from years of watching forums and development that this phone is DOA for development. If anything was going to happen it would have happened long before now like in the spring.
We will be dependent upon official Xiaomi releases supplemented by the Xiaomi.EU customization for as long as we own this phone. There will never be a custom rom. Accept that or get a Pixel 7 before the sale is over.
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Thanks for the Frank answer, let me stop checking XDA atleast.
MIUI should atleast offer option to switch launchers.
Never returning to xiaomi