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There is an iPhone 3G app called VOiPover3G that tricks other iPhone apps into thinking that they are on Wi-Fi even though they are on 3G/EDGE/GPRS.
Is anything like this being looked at/developed for Android phones??
Please post questions about apps in the correct subforum. This will probably get locked...
This probably is the right subforum. Apps forum is for apps that have been compiled and released. This forum is for dev including apps dev.
Anyway, what would be the point in a program like that? What programs could benefit from it?
JaboJG said:
This probably is the right subforum. Apps forum is for apps that have been compiled and released. This forum is for dev including apps dev.
Anyway, what would be the point in a program like that? What programs could benefit from it?
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It would allow programs like sipdroid (the market version) to think it was on wifi and when we finally get something like Fring for Android that would also be able to use the data package to make voip calls, even "real" skype calls.
It is in the wrong part of the forum, but I might as well answer it...
While the iPhone doesn't allow certain services over 3G (e.g. VoIP stuff), the current Android handsets + apps don't do such a thing.
e.g. Sipdroid works fine over edge/umts/wifi (as good as those networks can support VoIP).
It's really kind of a strange question to be honest. If there isn't a problem, don't ask questions about it
JaboJG said:
This probably is the right subforum. Apps forum is for apps that have been compiled and released. This forum is for dev including apps dev.
Anyway, what would be the point in a program like that? What programs could benefit from it?
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Not to harp on the point made by Diceman4, but it really isn't the correct sub-forum. If you look at the Stickies in the Apps/Games sub-forum, you will see that one of them is regarding request/ideas for applications.
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I don't see any development going on in the first post though. This seems more like a post for the "ideas for apps" thread in app subforum. Although if the op came back with a chunk of code that needed debugging, that would be a different story.
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The main reason for asking was because of problems with Tmob in the UK blocking sipdroid (port 5060) and preventing it using 3G etc.
If we had an app like VOiPover3G it may very well allow us to bypass that problem, I don't know
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The main reason for asking was because of problems with Tmob in the UK blocking sipdroid (port 5060) and preventing it using 3G etc.
If we had an app like VOiPover3G it may very well allow us to bypass that problem, I don't know
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Why? a better bet would be to ask the sipdroid creator to include a user configurable port setting. The point of android is that the workarounds don't need to be workarounds on the phone, but rather workrounds for interfacing with the network.
robiom said:
The main reason for asking was because of problems with Tmob in the UK blocking sipdroid (port 5060) and preventing it using 3G etc.
If we had an app like VOiPover3G it may very well allow us to bypass that problem, I don't know
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The technique described by the op routes traffic internally from the wifi interface to the cellular interface. That will have no effect on the protocol or port used. In other words, it will only be of use if the app is hardcoded to use wifi only and you want to work around that. If the cellular carrier is blocking the data, this method will not get around that.
As for sipdroid, you can manually configure the port used.
jashsu said:
The technique described by the op routes traffic internally from the wifi interface to the cellular interface. That will have no effect on the protocol or port used. In other words, it will only be of use if the app is hardcoded to use wifi only and you want to work around that. If the cellular carrier is blocking the data, this method will not get around that.
As for sipdroid, you can manually configure the port used.
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If you use pbxes there are a handful of different ports that will work but I haven't been able to get any to work. Saying that, up till recently I was using Gizmo5 but pbxes have blocked it's use after they (Gizmo5) allegedly stole/used sipdroid code and renamed it as if it was there own.
If any one has had success with sipdroid on 3g etc on t-mob UK please post the sip provider and the settings used.
Have you guys tried using the FULL version of sipdroid.. the one on the market didnt allow for 3g calls but this one does http://code.google.com/p/sipdroid/
turboyo said:
Have you guys tried using the FULL version of sipdroid.. the one on the market didnt allow for 3g calls but this one does http://code.google.com/p/sipdroid/
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Been there, done that, even got the T-shirt.
The problem is T-mob in the UK are a pain in the neck and are blocking the port 5060.
As someone has already mentioned in this thread, what is needed is a user configurable port so that T-mob UK can't block.
Let's hope sipdroid developers can do something along those lines.
I don't get it... have you tried all the alternative ports listed in pbxes website?
53, 69, 80, 135, 161, 443, 500, 1433, 1701, 1812, 3389, 4500, 5061, 5900, 16999, 26999 and
36999 (recommended)
Note:
Because of the DNS entries for pbxes.org your device may be selecting port 5060 automatically. If you want to use an alternative port enter 188.40.65.148 as SIP server.
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Both of them work as UDP or TCP.
TCP is recommended as it will help with battery life.
If none of these ports work, then It has to be that T-mobile has a Layer 7 filter in place looking for the SIP signaling traffic, and there should be no workaround possible unless you can wrap your sip traffic in a VPN. Nothing can be done to stop that, unless they filter the whole L2TP,PPTP,IPSEC or OpenVPN protocols.
I have tried most if not all of the ports specified and still no joy BUT I'll give it another go. What SIP provider do you use?
If T-mob are killing all SIP traffic how is it possible to use sipdriod over VPN?? Surely that is a major undertaking?
If it was done though, it would be the most robust and bulletproof VOIP app and would never be stopped Brilliant
I have just tried every single one of the alternative ports and every time I had a registration failure (timeout) so I guess T-mob are filtering for SIP traffic.
That leaves only the VPN route OR change providers OR change phones.
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I have just tried every single one of the alternative ports and every time I had a registration failure (timeout) so I guess T-mob are filtering for SIP traffic.
That leaves only the VPN route OR change providers OR change phones.
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Changing phones WILL NOT work since it isn't the phone that is causing the problem, it is the provider.
VPN should be fine, but you'll need a VPN server somewhere to connect through, i.e., your home computer.
There is nothing a carrier can do to block SIP over VPN. Everything is tunneled over the VPN connection so they can't know what goes in there.
As soon as we have a reliable VPN service (Donut seems to have PPTP or L2TP, although I'd love to see OpenVPN there) , you'll ve able to set-up your own voip and vpn server and pipe all the voice through it.
There is a couple of VoIP providers who can do that for you. One that comes to mind is callwithus.
On the connection issue with t-mobile, I suggest you try this:
If you have a DMZ linux/cygwin (altough a windows box might make it) host or a shell anywhere you can test if your provider is locking those ports, the pbxes ip or maybe even the SIP traffic.
Listen in a port using netcat:
netcat -n -l -vvvv 5060
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Launch the Terminal Emulator in your android phone and test if you can connect to your host:
nc <your_hostname> 5060
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Type something... if you can see the text, they have a L7 filter in place.
If you can't see anything, they are blocking the port.
Now change the listening port to 36999 for instance.
Try to connect again. It should work.
Now in Sipdroid, add your hostname, give it any username, any password, use the 36999 port and select TCP connection and keep the netcat running on your listening host.
If you see a connection in your listening host and some signalling traffic, pbxes should work for you.
If you don't, then there's a really advance L7 filter between you and the internet and they can block anything they want to.
In this case, the only solution (and there's nothing they can do unless they also block it), is to use a VPN.
Thanks guys for all your suggestions. I'll try and go through all the procedures you've suggested stickman and I'll post the results
Full write up is over @ Breakfast with Unicorns
The gist:
You will need a pre .48 radio if you are on a 4.2.2 ROM. If you are on a 4.2.1 ROM, then you already have .33 and can move forward.
• Open up your phone dialer and punch in “ *#*#4636#*#* “
• Select Phone Information
• Scroll down to the bottom where you can select the preferred network type [photo]
• Select LTE/GSM Auto
The LTE/GSM selection allows you to retain voice capabilities.
Please let me know if i missed anything or if you have any questions.
Ludacon said:
Full write up is over @ Breakfast with Unicorns
The gist:
You will need a pre .48 radio if you are on a 4.2.2 ROM. If you are on a 4.2.1 ROM, then you already have .33 and can move forward.
• Open up your phone dialer and punch in “ #*#*4636*#*# “
• Select Phone Information
• Scroll down to the bottom where you can select the preferred network type [photo]
• Select LTE/GSM Auto
The LTE/GSM selection allows you to retain voice capabilities.
Please let me know if i missed anything or if you have any questions.
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It's actually *#*#4636#*#* to access phone info
uToTMeH8 said:
It's actually *#*#4636#*#* to access phone info
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wow, thanks for that catch man.
XDA has been talking about this for months
nexus has LTE
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Here are all the things you need (checklist):
1) An LTE SIM
2) LTE coverage
3) LTE enabled in the radio settings on the N4
4) The proper APN for LTE for your carrier inputed into your N4 AND selected
5) An LTE compatible data plan
6) LTE provisioned on your account.
Point #6 above is what you have to call in to make sure it is there. If they don't want to add it, explain to them that you bought an LTE device from outside Canada and you want to be able to use LTE. Ask them, if need be, to add a dummy IMEI to your account to allow provisioning. You may have to call back a few times until you speak to a CSR that actually knows what they are talking about. If you can't get anywhere with that, then you can try putting your SIM in an LTE device sold in Canada and then call them to make sure that LTE is provisioned on your account, then try it in your N4.
@all: please do not talk about "faking" IMEIs on devices, as that is illegal. There is a difference between that, and having another IMEI provisioned on your account.
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[REF] [RADIO] Mako modem collection
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0.48 - Source: JDQ39 OTA update. Note: there are reports that this radio breaks auto-rotation and auto-brightness functionality on 4.2.1 and earlier. No issues on 4.2.2 though. As well, this radio disables LTE functionality, so if you use LTE, you will need to stick with one of the earlier radios.
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Hello everyone! Good day!
Does anyone know if this feature is implemented in the Note 9? I could not find the setting in Developer Options but Android Documentation says its available in Android Pie.
Thanks
Google say it is inbuilt with no need for a on/off switch
https://support.google.com/fi/thread/293417?hl=en
raul6 said:
Google say it is inbuilt with no need for a on/off switch
https://support.google.com/fi/thread/293417?hl=en
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Thus, it's not, and thankfully because I activated mac filtering on my network and it would have been a pain otherwise.
Then for Android Q
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...es-by-default-with-per-network-customization/
I hope it won't be mandatory because it would be a use drawback for home network security.
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Google say it is inbuilt with no need for a on/off switch
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Hi Raul, I tested this on my home network but the address was not randomizng. Looks like Samsung didn't implement the option.
Nastrahl said:
I hope it won't be mandatory because it would be a use drawback for home network security.
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Yes, that true. But there times when this is useful too. When using Public WiFi for example.
raul6 said:
Google say it is inbuilt with no need for a on/off switch
https://support.google.com/fi/thread/293417?hl=en
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It is COMPLETELY INCORRECT. Didn't you see the 11 thumb downs and the link he provided? It's explicitly said "disabled by default". Also, is that answer from google?
The truth is, in Samsung's OS, there are 2 wifi interfaces - wlan0 and swlan0. The former uses a MAC Address initialized from /efs/wifi/.mac.info during boot, and the latter has a randomized address. Only wlan0 will be used by default (without modding the system), so the address will never be randomized.
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It is COMPLETELY INCORRECT. Didn't you see the 11 thumb downs and the link he provided? It's explicitly said "disabled by default". Also, is that answer from google?
The truth is, in Samsung's OS, there are 2 wifi interfaces - wlan0 and swlan0. The former uses a MAC Address initialized from /efs/wifi/.mac.info during boot, and the latter has a randomized address. Only wlan0 will be used by default (without modding the system), so the address will never be randomized.
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From the same link
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Matthew Wolffsohn
5/26/19
It looks like there are two misconceptions here:
To those saying the feature is disabled: No, randomisation when joining a network is disabled. The feature is always active when disconnected from a network.
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raul6 said:
From the same link
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Matthew Wolffsohn
5/26/19
It looks like there are two misconceptions here:
To those saying the feature is disabled: No, randomisation when joining a network is disabled. The feature is always active when disconnected from a network.
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It's not available in the Note 9 Exynos regardless of the WiFi connection status.
TalesFromThePlanetEarth said:
It's not available in the Note 9 Exynos regardless of the WiFi connection status.
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Well, I guess he meant wifi probing
Starting in Android 8.0, Android devices use random MAC addresses when probing for new networks while not currently associated to a network.
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These are also from the link I mentioned in my previous message. I've seen that before I found this thread, and it's another thing.
Its working on android Q Note 9 exynos
In the USA and waiting for my S21 Ultra to show up in the mail from big daddy Samsung.com.
I'm browsing thru this: https://docs.samsungknox.com/CCMode/G998U_5G_R.pdf
I'm highlighting what I want gone when the phone gets here.
[1] Is everything on that list actually loaded onto every phone? It'd be funny if my unlocked US phone was loaded with trash from every carrier instead of just my own.
[2] What in suspicion's name is "Mobile Device Information Provider" aka "com.amazon.appmanager"?! -- Is daddy Bezos trying to grope my phone?
[3] Y'all recommend Android/Google or Samsung Messages and Android/Google or Samsung Phone app?
Is anyone able to check if "Mobile Device Information Provider" aka "com.amazon.appmanager" is on their phone?
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Is anyone able to check if "Mobile Device Information Provider" aka "com.amazon.appmanager" is on their phone?
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Not in mine (Exynos, Spain, 16/512)
rcastroc59 said:
Not in mine (Exynos, Spain, 16/512)
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Thanks for checking.
Yeah, megacorps are especially dirty in the US market, so I'm just double checking.
In either case, can you share your model number and firmware number from the about phone panel?
Thanks in advance.
This is your list, from what I can gather: https://docs.samsungknox.com/CCMode/G998B_5G_R.pdf
It doesn't have Amazon mentioned in there.
Looks like this guy is 50 apps (1 page) shorter: https://docs.samsungknox.com/CCMode/G998U1_5G_R.pdf
Hope I'm getting U1 instead of plain U, because U1 essentially has only 3 apps I'd consider bloatware (Netflix, Facebook, etc.).
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In the USA and waiting for my S21 Ultra to show up in the mail from big daddy Samsung.com.
I'm browsing thru this: https://docs.samsungknox.com/CCMode/G998U_5G_R.pdf
[2] What in suspicion's name is "Mobile Device Information Provider" aka "com.amazon.appmanager"?! -- Is daddy Bezos trying to grope my phone?
[3] Y'all recommend Android/Google or Samsung Messages and Android/Google or Samsung Phone app?
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com.amazon.appmanager,
(UID 10339) [18.203.4.139] per Karma Firewall
The Amazon apk is package blocked on my 10+/Pie, but the above IP address is amazon.
Apparently Wearables is trying to access it this site to update. I had to block Wearables update to preserve the current version. The update breaks Wearables, bad audio. Blocking this site stops the update... it appears. Time will tell.
WTF?
It was a bugger to troubleshoot.
USA doesn't have stringent consumer privacy laws. So it's a free for all here and except the apps and services to be the least privacy focused. Including Google , Whatsapp, fakeBook etc.
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USA doesn't have stringent consumer privacy laws. So it's a free for all here and except the apps and services to be the least privacy focused. Including Google , Whatsapp, fakeBook etc.
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Apparently Samsung uses this site for Wearable's updates. I don't know... wysiwyg
blackhawk said:
Apparently Samsung uses this site for Wearables updates. I don't know... wysiwyg
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What's a wearable update ? I don't wear anything
Limeybastard said:
What's a wearable update ? I don't wear anything
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Bette'r?
I'm considering upgrading my S10+ to the S21 Ultra. Before I do I need to know if editing the APN settings will work the same, or are there other factors I need to be aware of.
Hotspotting is my primary way of connecting to the net, and has been for the past 10+ years. If I can't continue to connect in this way with the Ultra, what phones will work?
Yes I'm aware of PDAnet, it will not work for my use scenario. I must hotspot through the phone natively. I use in the range of 60 - 100gb each month. I'm on a grandfathered true unlimited plan.
Screen shots of the APN settings would be greatly appreciated, if applicable.
You can go directly to the hotspotting app if you know what you're doing.
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You can go directly to the hotspotting app if you know what you're doing.
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Would you care to explain? I've used the native hotspot for years.
Can you provide any more information?
I can't tell if you are asking if hotspot works as intended on a stock sprint/tmobile phone? Like paying for the hotspot feature?
It's unclear what your grandfathered plan provides. Does that include unlimited hot spot?
Or are you asking if you can manually configure the APN to override how hotspot works, so you can use it without paying for the hotspot feature, assuming it's not included in your plan?
Are you just asking if you can edit the APN settings at all?
There is just too much uncertainty about what you are asking.
KingFatty said:
Can you provide any more information?
I can't tell if you are asking if hotspot works as intended on a stock sprint/tmobile phone? Like paying for the hotspot feature?
It's unclear what your grandfathered plan provides. Does that include unlimited hot spot?
Or are you asking if you can manually configure the APN to override how hotspot works, so you can use it without paying for the hotspot feature, assuming it's not included in your plan?
Are you just asking if you can edit the APN settings at all?
There is just too much uncertainty about what you are asking.
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I do not have hotspot on my plan.
In order to use hotspot currently, a new APN entry is created adding "dun“ to a field, allowing hotspot to be activated without having a plan.
Here is a thread that explains the current method on older phones:
Sprint Hotspot Hack w/ Android 10
I lost my hotspot hack when I updated my Sprint S10 to Android 10 like everyone else but I just found a fix! It works on my S10 so I’m guessing it’ll work the same for S10+ users. ##3282# then APN Settings (The left clicking to unlock editing...
forum.xda-developers.com
Anyone?
dh350nwo said:
Anyone?
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This forum wants to keep this "hack" on the down low.
All I will tell you is that you need to use some shortcut app that'll punch you through straight to the hotspotting app. This way, the carrier check is avoided.
Also, you MAY need to use a VPN because desktop traffic can become obvious.
An alternative is to VPN/tunnel into your home computer via Wireguard or some other software like ZeroTier or Tailscale.
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This forum wants to keep this "hack" on the down low.
All I will tell you is that you need to use some shortcut app that'll punch you through straight to the hotspotting app. This way, the carrier check is avoided.
Also, you MAY need to use a VPN because desktop traffic can become obvious.
An alternative is to VPN/tunnel into your home computer via Wireguard or some other software like ZeroTier or Tailscale.
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I'm going to try to be vague with this reply. You're saying a MAKER of shortcut app will be needed to get into the functionality of LTE.
Wouldn't the ##data# menu work also? That's what I do now. And by doing so it doesn't show as tethered data used when I check my usage.
You just need to find a way to open the hotspot app directly.
Shortcut apps like this help: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rk.android.app.shortcutmaker&hl=en_US&gl=US
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You just need to find a way to open the hotspot app directly.
Shortcut apps like this help: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rk.android.app.shortcutmaker&hl=en_US&gl=US
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I can already toggle the HS app natively.
I'm not sure we are on the same page.
So I guess getting any help or answers is pointless?
FYI: On Android 12 for Samsung you can add a new APN under Access Point Names without jumping thru hoops. Just tap on add new APN (make sure to copy everything from original APN) and add dun to the apn type field. Save the update and now you have free Hotspot (data counts against your main data bucket).
What about those who already have a restricted hotspot in their plan (high speed hotspot for first 500 MB, then switches to super-slow mode until reset the next billing cycle)?
Would adding a new APN result in unlimited hotspot? I can't tell if those with limited hotspot already enabled, would see any benefit to adding a new APN, or if it would even work?