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Can't Retrain "OK Google"

I've used the "OK Google" feature for a long time on the Nexus 6. I run the stock OS always upgrading through 5, 6, 7 and now 7.1.1. The problem is too many false positives. Frequently "OK" is enough to trigger without the "Google".
So I thought I would retrain. I've tried this on 6.x , 7, and 7.1.1 and it always fails. I get one of several error messages, "bad timing", "too noisy", "too loud". It never even succeeds for one of the 3 required samples.
When I trained originally probably back on 5.x I had no trouble with the training, but there have always been false positives, though more now than before.
If I record my voice the playback is crystal clear, in fact If I play back a recording of "OK Google" it happily triggers. I have tried retraining in safe mode, and it has the same failures. I go out of the way to make sure I am in a completely quiet environment when training.
I'm tempted to delete my old training, but fear that I will still not be able to train, and have nothing.
Any ideas?

Be persistent, and make sure the room you are in has NO noises whatsoever. The issues with Google voice commands are common in the AOSP ROMs, whereas stock ROMs function correctly.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Be persistent, and make sure the room you are in has NO noises whatsoever. The issues with Google voice commands are common in the AOSP ROMs, whereas stock ROMs function correctly.
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I've always used the official stock Google firmware, quiet room, MANY repetitions all fail on the Nexus 6. Same room, Nexus 9, same stock official version, retrains work every time.

As I've pointed out already, I never had this problem on the stock ROMs, but on AOSP training was a nightmare. When the phone thinks your laptop's chill mat is too loud, it's a problem. However persistence in this case paid off.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Be persistent, and make sure the room you are in has NO noises whatsoever. The issues with Google voice commands are common in the AOSP ROMs, whereas stock ROMs function correctly.
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No amount of persistence worked. What did work was using a bluetooth headphone for input. It accepts the training every time. Strange since recording from the phone mics are crystal clear. Can't understand why I had to go to bluetooth for the training.
That said no matter how much training I did, it still triggered much of the time on "OK" without the Google, which is problematic for me.
I did find a solution to that. Since I could now train, I trained it to take "KO Google", and "KO" is not part of my normal usage.

I've not had this problem but my phone makes me reset the OK Google in every boot. Anyone else experience this?
tApPeD fROM mY nExUs 6

Check the thread you made. I replied there.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Be persistent, and make sure the room you are in has NO noises whatsoever. The issues with Google voice commands are common in the AOSP ROMs, whereas stock ROMs function correctly.
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I agree with original poster. It is not an issue of the room not being quiet enough. I too have a Nexus 6 and I am using completely stock Android. In my first year of ownership I never had trouble training or retraining the command trigger.. I'm in a completely silent room with no fans or anything, and holding the phone at normal distance, the trainer says it can't hear me or there's a problem with the microphone. If I hold it a little closer or speak louder it says I'm too close or too loud. By the way it continually fails. Luckily my original voice training is intact so I still use that.
My microphone does actually work though because my voice dictation works perfectly, as evidenced by this entire post which I am voice dictating. Also as the original poster said, recording my voice or ambient​ audio sounds perfectly fine when I play it back.
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kmandel said:
. I get one of several error messages, "bad timing", "too noisy", "too loud". It never even succeeds for one of the 3 required samples.
If I record my voice the playback is crystal clear, in fact If I play back a recording of "OK Google" it happily triggers. I have tried retraining in safe mode, and it has the same failures. I go out of the way to make sure I am in a completely quiet environment when training.
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Regarding the issue where the training screen does not hear your voice properly, it turns out that the language your phone is set to matters, which seems obvious but in my case I was using UK English (because I like it when my maps and other apps talk to me in a British female voice).
I changed it back to American English and the voice retraining immediately started working! After I retrained it, I then put my phone back on British English. Its been working nicely.
Another tip I came across from other forums is to check your accessibility settings, and either completely disable them or check which apps have accessability permissions and disable all of them or in particular some of the less established third-party apps. Some of these apps hijack the microphone access in non-standard ways. I assume once you have made the retraining work, you can then allow those apps once again.
For me it never came to that, the language settings were the culprit..
One final tip that other users have said worked for them was to uninstall the Google app, which does not truly uninstall it but just removes all the updates. Then reapply the updates and restart the phone. This works for some users.

Tarototh said:
I agree with original poster. It is not an issue of the room not being quiet enough. I too have a Nexus 6 and I am using completely stock Android. In my first year of ownership I never had trouble training or retraining the command trigger.. I'm in a completely silent room with no fans or anything, and holding the phone at normal distance, the trainer says it can't hear me or there's a problem with the microphone. If I hold it a little closer or speak louder it says I'm too close or too loud. By the way it continually fails. Luckily my original voice training is intact so I still use that.
My microphone does actually work though because my voice dictation works perfectly, as evidenced by this entire post which I am voice dictating. Also as the original poster said, recording my voice or ambient​ audio sounds perfectly fine when I play it back.
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When this thread was initially active, a broad spectrum of custom ROM users - including myself - were having problems training the Google Assistant. From what I recall of the issue, the problem was related to the Motorola Always On Voice app and was resolved by Motorola pushing out a new voice app that was incorporated into Google's Android 7.1.1 builds.
Stock ROMs, including debloated ROMs based off stock, never had this issue. So it's a surprise to me that you had issues. I would suspect yours is a different issue from the one being discussed here, because from personal experience I guarantee the hardware was not the issue when the OP originally posted this thread.

I can attest to the accessibility settings being the issue when the system fails to recognize you saying "OK Google" during voice retraining. In my case I own a Bluetooth headset which had accessibility settings. I believe this was so that it would give me voice feedback for some notifications. When I turned off the accessibility settings for my Samsung U Level Pro Bluetooth headphones I was able to go back and retrain my voice model with no problem!

Google Now on OxygenOS 4.0.2

Hi to everyone,
Lately I began to experience a weird issue on my OnePlus 3T. More precisely the GoogleNow application starts by itself when the phone is off. It wouldn't be a problem if it weren't talking after it registerd the voice around. Google previously eliminated the unlock of the phone with the voice recognition feature so I suppose it's a bug in OxygenOS. Has someone else experienced this ? Any solution ?
P.S. Sometimes I use Google Now therefore I prefer it to be enabled.

Sometimes not even fully saying OK Google will still activate it. Like"OK G..."

tzbigworm said:
Sometimes not even fully saying OK Google will still activate it. Like"OK G..."
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The funny part - the "OK Google" doesn't work when the phone is off. I tried several times without success.

OK Google - very poor functionality

I've just upgraded from Pixel XL to Note8 and mostly I am very pleased, but for the very disappointing lack of proper implementation of Google Now/Assistant.
When the screen is off, I say OK Google, and the screen comes on ready for my command. Then I ask something and I get "Can't reach Google at the moment." This is absolute nonsense. I am sitting at my desk, 1m from my fibre optic router and I get 60mb download speeds. I am also connected to 4g from my desk, and if I run any app using the net, it works fine. I always get my emails, WhatsApp, Duo, Allo etc... so no problem there.
Other variations, things that sometimes happen:
1/ "OK Google" with screen off - the phone makes it's listening sound, but the screen stays off, then a minute later when I switch the screen on manually, I get the answer to my question!
2/ "OK Google" with screen off - the phone makes two sounds, the listening one then the cancelling one almost simultaneously
3/ "OK Google" with screen of - no response at all.
Anyone know what is going on here?
Thanks,
Mark.

fredphoesh said:
I've just upgraded from Pixel XL to Note8 and mostly I am very pleased, but for the very disappointing lack of proper implementation of Google Now/Assistant.
When the screen is off, I say OK Google, and the screen comes on ready for my command. Then I ask something and I get "Can't reach Google at the moment." This is absolute nonsense. I am sitting at my desk, 1m from my fibre optic router and I get 60mb download speeds. I am also connected to 4g from my desk, and if I run any app using the net, it works fine. I always get my emails, WhatsApp, Duo, Allo etc... so no problem there.
Other variations, things that sometimes happen:
1/ "OK Google" with screen off - the phone makes it's listening sound, but the screen stays off, then a minute later when I switch the screen on manually, I get the answer to my question!
2/ "OK Google" with screen off - the phone makes two sounds, the listening one then the cancelling one almost simultaneously
3/ "OK Google" with screen of - no response at all.
Anyone know what is going on here?
Thanks,
Mark.
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they broke ok google about a year ago, very sad.

SOLUTION!
Hello again all.
After much searching, I tired something suggested back in 2015 by someone... an obvious suggestion, but not something EE tech support or Samsung had suggested.
Go to Settings>Apps>Google
Then go to Storage
Clear Cache
Clear Data
Reboot.
The suggestion was to try force close Google app, but that would not work, I tried a few times, but then just cleared Cache and Data, rebooted and it works perfectly, just like my Pixel XL
Woo hoo!!
Mark.

fredphoesh said:
Hello again all.
After much searching, I tired something suggested back in 2015 by someone... an obvious suggestion, but not something EE tech support or Samsung had suggested.
Go to Settings>Apps>Google
Then go to Storage
Clear Cache
Clear Data
Reboot.
The suggestion was to try force close Google app, but that would not work, I tried a few times, but then just cleared Cache and Data, rebooted and it works perfectly, just like my Pixel XL
Woo hoo!!
Mark.
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This doesn't work for me. Even after clearing cache and data, rebooting, starting Assistant and running through the setup again, I get the same behavior with the screen off, a message that says "Can't reach Google at the moment."

I had this problem, disabled Bixby, works properly now.
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Liface said:
This doesn't work for me. Even after clearing cache and data, rebooting, starting Assistant and running through the setup again, I get the same behavior with the screen off, a message that says "Can't reach Google at the moment."
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Check that your battery saving modes are not killing the Google app from running in the background. This is the most likely scenario, that the app isn't running at all.

Mine get borked every time I toggle between power saving modes. I like to use Extreme power saver for overnight and Medium mode at work.
Medium mode straight up breaks OK Google. Not sure if this is by design or a bug, but it just will not hear me.
Coming out of either mode (and extreme is the worst) and neither "Hi Bixby" or "OK Google" work until I do another full reboot. Sometimes I have to reboot then go back into Google voice setting to switch the option back on manually. If I try to do this before the reboot the option is greyed out and I can't move it. Sometimes just the reboot is enough.
It's random as hell and extremely annoying. I have submitted the bug to Samsung via the feature in the Samsung Members app, but that was over two weeks ago and has seen no response.

Interesting post. My wife's OK Google voice doesn't work but mine does. Both USA T MO version. With works I'm referring to having the Google widget on home screen and saying the sentence OK Google. Mine responds and hers doesn't. With screen ON.
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fredphoesh said:
Check that your battery saving modes are not killing the Google app from running in the background. This is the most likely scenario, that the app isn't running at all.
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That's not it, I rarely use battery saving mode and this happens 100% of the time.

Ok google for me just does not work.

Anyone get a fix for this?
"Ok Google" works when screen is on, but if I say it while the screen is off, it makes the noise and I get edge lighting indicating it's listening, however it doesn't respond and when I manually turn on the screen assistant is open saying "can't reach Google at the moment."
Power saving mode is off, tried disabling Bixby, clearing cache, nothing.

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clearing cache, nothing.
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so clearing cache of Google app and rebooting did not help at all?
bizarre, that fixed it for me...
I have a UK version.
I'd phone Samsung!

I'm frustrated too because I can't figure out how to use it while in power saving mode. I thought I added it correctly in the optimized battery usage apps (disabled google, ok google enrollment and voice assitant there). I can't see it as an option to select under unmonitored apps. Any idea what I'm missing?
Thanks for any help

This is strange to hear. Mine has worked flawlessly, as good as my pixel XL. Screen off and locked or not. I say ok Google, phone unlocks, and then I ask it whatever. Only thing ive done is disabled bixby by way of BK disabler.
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May be coincidental but I have not the slightest problem, and yeah, I uninstalled the Bixter. One thing I have read somewhere or other is that the OK Goog command is also subject to the level you set for Bix. In other words with sensitivity turned down for Bix it's also turned down for Goog. I never tested that one but might be worth looking at...

gingi999 said:
they broke ok google about a year ago, very sad.
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So two things I wanted to mention the first one was my old phone case actually covered one of the microphone holes. Meaning the cut-out wasn't there so I used a drill and made a hole and it fixed part of the problem.
I have to be honest with you the Note 8 solved all the OK Google problems that I was having the past. For example the lockscreen didn't used to work and it works now I mean it was really a piece of trash with my Galaxy S7 Edge and now I can't imagine living without it.

Having problems like the first post where google assistant/ok google is non responsive all around. I've noticed that if I clear cache and data it falls back to just "ok google" and it work all the time. If I activate the google assitant with ok google it fails immediately. Who can fix this?

Has anyone noticed in their Note 8 or S8+/S8 what has happened to Smart Lock?

Recently, in my Note 8, no matter what I do, I’m having issues with Smart Lock. Specifically when I’m at home with Trusted Places. It works with the other Smart Lock areas, just not the Trusted Places. I thought if i shutoff WiFi, I fixed it. But, no. It still doesn’t work. About 2 weeks ago, it was working flawlessly. Obviously if the phone wasn’t used for 4 hours, I would have to use a method to unlock my phone, but after that when I was at home it would open without entering any method to unlock the phone. Anyone have this issue? If so, any solutions? I’ve tried so many and I’m getting tired and frustrated. I really don’t want a feature that’s been working on many Android phone including this one for years, make me resent this phone. Not sure if resent is the right word, but I’m sure everyone knows what I’m talking about. What is with Samsung, from how they handled the Note 7 fiasco (I got a lot more help through Verizon), not bringing back the original S Note app, constantly giving us great features then taking them away, etc. I can keep going on and on. If there was another Android phone that had a S Pen comparable to theirs, I really think they would be in trouble with how they are treating us consumers. I’m just really frustrated. Hopefully someone can help with this issue, that shouldn’t be. But based on my Google search, it looks like I’m not the only one. Thanks in advance for your help.

sll1313 said:
Recently, in my Note 8, no matter what I do, I’m having issues with Smart Lock. Specifically when I’m at home with Trusted Places. It works with the other Smart Lock areas, just not the Trusted Places. I thought if i shutoff WiFi, I fixed it. But, no. It still doesn’t work. About 2 weeks ago, it was working flawlessly. Obviously if the phone wasn’t used for 4 hours, I would have to use a method to unlock my phone, but after that when I was at home it would open without entering any method to unlock the phone. Anyone have this issue? If so, any solutions? I’ve tried so many and I’m getting tired and frustrated. I really don’t want a feature that’s been working on many Android phone including this one for years, make me resent this phone. Not sure if resent is the right word, but I’m sure everyone knows what I’m talking about. What is with Samsung, from how they handled the Note 7 fiasco (I got a lot more help through Verizon), not bringing back the original S Note app, constantly giving us great features then taking them away, etc. I can keep going on and on. If there was another Android phone that had a S Pen comparable to theirs, I really think they would be in trouble with how they are treating us consumers. I’m just really frustrated. Hopefully someone can help with this issue, that shouldn’t be. But based on my Google search, it looks like I’m not the only one. Thanks in advance for your help.
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Do you have an Exchange account of some kind on the device? My corporate email disables Trusted Places in my device, but sometimes it kicks in and works for a brief period of time.

Works fine for me
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Actually had the same issue, had to add my current location under smartlock Trusted places (even though it shows as identical address to home)

Jammol said:
Do you have an Exchange account of some kind on the device? My corporate email disables Trusted Places in my device, but sometimes it kicks in and works for a brief period of time.
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Unfortunately, that’s not it. It’s been working flawlessly since I got the phone on release date. It’s just been recently, approximately 2 weeks, that it stopped working. Even then, I’ll get it to work for a dat and then it will stop again.

SteelPicori said:
Actually had the same issue, had to add my current location under smartlock Trusted places (even though it shows as identical address to home)
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I’ve tried this, too. I’ve also tried different locations on my street and it was working, but then stopped again. Open to other suggestions.

sll1313 said:
Unfortunately, that’s not it. It’s been working flawlessly since I got the phone on release date. It’s just been recently, approximately 2 weeks, that it stopped working. Even then, I’ll get it to work for a dat and then it will stop again.
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Oh okay. Only other thing I can think of is software update that was released about that time. Can you try a factory reset after backing up your data?

Jammol said:
Oh okay. Only other thing I can think of is software update that was released about that time. Can you try a factory reset after backing up your data?
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Thanks for the quick response. I appreciate the thought, but I was trying to figure out another way. I finally got the original S Note app with Action Memo, Photo Note, Idea Sketch, Sketchbook, Easy Chart, etc. on the phone and I really don’t want to take any chances that I lose that app. It’s my favorite app for the Note. Still shocked that Samsung changed it to Samsung Notes. However, you gave me an idea. I normally wipe cache partition when I do updates and I forgot after the last security update. So I just did it and Trusted Places is working so far. Hopefully it continues. Thanks for the suggestion! If this holds up, I will let you know and then I’ll just have to remember to do that after each OTA.

My wife and I use smart lock location at home, hers stopped working 2 days ago and mine stopped yesterday. Must have been an update to an app that is killing it.
Just spoke with a Samsung rep and have a possible solution
Settings >> Apps >> more options ( 3 vertical dots) >> tap on System apps
scroll to "google play services" and clear it's cache, reboot the phone and then check for the issue.
This worked for me.
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EVObastard said:
My wife and I use smart lock location at home, hers stopped working 2 days ago and mine stopped yesterday. Must have been an update to an app that is killing it.
Just spoke with a Samsung rep and have a possible solution
Settings >> Apps >> more options ( 3 vertical dots) >> tap on System apps
scroll to "google play services" and clear it's cache, reboot the phone and then check for the issue.
This worked for me.
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I just tried this idea for my phone and I thought it worked, but unfortunately I was wrong. I wanted to double check to be certain because one of my work arounds to fix this issue was just rebooting the phone and making sure my location was working and then it would work. So of course since your idea involved rebooting I knew that would help my phone. I was just hoping the added step of clearing the cache would make it work permanently. Are both of your phones still working? I may just forget it and set it up for either the Google Home or mini as a trusted device because this is getting very frustrating. If you could think of anything else, please let me know. Thanks again.

I had the same problem at home and I narrowed down to the GPS not locking down properly in different areas of the house. Open Google Maps and you can see.
So, the next time it stops working, simply add the trusted zone of your area again even though the coordinates are the same.
I have the same coordinates registered 4 times in my device and haven't had an issue since.
It's a stupid solution but works.

i have an N950F running 8.0.0 and for me it stopped working on Nougat. After i clean istalled Oreo, smart lock worked for about 3 days. Now it doesn't again . I already cleaned cache of google play services and since then it works when it want's sometimes it workes sometimes not. is there no way to force it ? i mean once we have unlocked the device we can tap the lock on lockscreen to lock the device again . Is there nothing similar like this to unlock the device if the Automatad way isn't working propertly?
Adding more locations around my home area also didn't helped.
it is also very frustrating that we only can add bluetooth devices to trusted devices instead of i.E. my home router so it would know that i am at home not only through GPS location.

sll1313 said:
Unfortunately, that’s not it. It’s been working flawlessly since I got the phone on release date. It’s just been recently, approximately 2 weeks, that it stopped working. Even then, I’ll get it to work for a dat and then it will stop again.
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I have the exact same problem! I'm not sure when it started happening, but it has annoyed me more and more over the last couple of weeks. I'll try to add my home again as a second input.
Note8 950F w/ Jan security update (nordic).
edit: it seems to work now when I've added my home two times.

I’ve actually tried all those ideas. I have a paragraph of locations including addresses as well as coordinates. I find that interesting that you mentioned about having four of the same coordinates because I noticed something quite interesting. Sometimes when they’re the same coordinates it will say it’s a duplicate and those I’ve dismissed. However, others that come up don’t come up with that message and I end up having multiple items with the same coordinates. Later on I erase them because I figure they’re just duplicates. I won’t going forward to see if that works. I’m assuming the ones the system catches as duplicates are the ones to not have included. I’m thinking about trying my home or one of my minis to use as a trusted device. I just really would like to get Trusted Places to work, but if not I think that’s the only other option since we can’t use a router as an option and I don’t have any of my Bluetooth speakers on all the time (I’m assuming those won’t work because of that). Please keep us informed in anyone cane up with any other ideas (as I’m sure you all will) and I will do the same.

LegendSmoker said:
i have an N950F running 8.0.0 and for me it stopped working on Nougat. After i clean istalled Oreo, smart lock worked for about 3 days. Now it doesn't again . I already cleaned cache of google play services and since then it works when it want's sometimes it workes sometimes not. is there no way to force it ? i mean once we have unlocked the device we can tap the lock on lockscreen to lock the device again . Is there nothing similar like this to unlock the device if the Automatad way isn't working propertly?
Adding more locations around my home area also didn't helped.
it is also very frustrating that we only can add bluetooth devices to trusted devices instead of i.E. my home router so it would know that i am at home not only through GPS location.
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I haven’t installed Oreo yet. I was waiting to hear what everyone thinks of it. How do you like it? That was one of my ideas that I was hoping would work. The only reason I haven’t installed Oreo besides waiting to hear what people thought. I want to make sure the Note 8 runs as well on it. I know in the past sometimes you upgrade and it makes the phone run worse. Also, I’ve got Nova Prime running , so it’s seems like I have most of the features that come with Oreo already on my phone. Honestly the last and most important reason I haven’t upgraded is the original S Note app. I had it running with Action Memo for quite sometime, but finally after awhile I managed to get it fully installed with Photo Note, Easy Chart, Idea Sketch, Scrapbook, etc. It’s working in its full form. There’s one very minor thing that I never realized wasn’t around since the Note 4 (because I didn’t own the Note 5 since it didn’t have the SD slot). And that’s not being able to bring in a photo from your gallery to Photo Note. Other than that minor item, it works flawlessly. So I really don’t want to lose it. I know eventually I will take my chances, but I was really hoping someone else already updated their phone and it’s still working. By any chance, did you have it fully installed when you updated to Oreo? BTW, the only other option which I put in my other post which another person posted as well is to use the Google Home/mini/max as a trusted device as a workaround.

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I haven’t installed Oreo yet. I was waiting to hear what everyone thinks of it. How do you like it? That was one of my ideas that I was hoping would work. The only reason I haven’t installed Oreo besides waiting to hear what people thought. I want to make sure the Note 8 runs as well on it. I know in the past sometimes you upgrade and it makes the phone run worse. Also, I’ve got Nova Prime running , so it’s seems like I have most of the features that come with Oreo already on my phone. Honestly the last and most important reason I haven’t upgraded is the original S Note app. I had it running with Action Memo for quite sometime, but finally after awhile I managed to get it fully installed with Photo Note, Easy Chart, Idea Sketch, Scrapbook, etc. It’s working in its full form. There’s one very minor thing that I never realized wasn’t around since the Note 4 (because I didn’t own the Note 5 since it didn’t have the SD slot). And that’s not being able to bring in a photo from your gallery to Photo Note. Other than that minor item, it works flawlessly. So I really don’t want to lose it. I know eventually I will take my chances, but I was really hoping someone else already updated their phone and it’s still working. By any chance, did you have it fully installed when you updated to Oreo? BTW, the only other option which I put in my other post which another person posted as well is to use the Google Home/mini/max as a trusted device as a workaround.
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Ou i like Oreo. I did a clean install and can say that I have Better SOT( on nougat 4 h on oreo 5h ). Else is same as nougat for me... Some changes in Settings UI and some changes in ui here and there nothing interesting. I can't help you with Snote because I didn't use it in past with my older Note 3 or 4 or 5 but now I just learned to use Samsung notes because i am just writing some songtexts with it. I can understand also that users don't want to switch because snote had more features but they are making it harder and harder to get snote back with fully functionality so it is only matter of time until it is fully uncompatible. But I Can find it on play store so it probably still works. If you hold the s pen button and touch the screen with the pen twice you will get an action memo like note with Samsung notes but you probably know that and this is the only thing I need ^^ what do you mean with fully installed after updated to oreo? I did a factory reset before and after I flashed oreo with Odin. And then I restored all my files with smart switch from PC. If you want to keep your data you can wait for OTA update or try dirty flashing with Odin but if you get any fc's after you updated them you will still need to factory reset to get rid of these errors. Thanks for this suggestion but unfortunately I don't own any smart home or Google home devices except of chromecast and this is not enough ^^
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I have the same issue lately (maybe 2 weeks at most so mid-March) that I've noticed Smart Lock no longer working most of the time when I'm at home or any other "trusted places". Seriously annoying because as mentioned above (by LegendSmoker) that they should allow routers to be added as trusted devices then it would solve this issue. I'm using the Canadian Note 8 (N950W unlocked) and it was fine from launch up until 1-2 weeks ago roughly and now it prompts the pattern or biometrics most of the time when I am at home. Nothing has helped so far in resolving this so not sure what caused it but hopefully it will start working again soon.

This is very annoying. I've done factory reset but the problem comes back after a few hours of use.

I've discovered something interesting, mine usually works late at night, like after 10p, coincidentally right after my AOD turns off. I've tried manually turning off AOD but that doesn't seem to help. I just realized that I have the do not disturb coming on at 10p also but my wife does not so I don't think it's that. It seems really odd though, that it works late at night, every night.
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LegendSmoker said:
Ou i like Oreo. I did a clean install and can say that I have Better SOT( on nougat 4 h on oreo 5h ). Else is same as nougat for me... Some changes in Settings UI and some changes in ui here and there nothing interesting. I can't help you with Snote because I didn't use it in past with my older Note 3 or 4 or 5 but now I just learned to use Samsung notes because i am just writing some songtexts with it. I can understand also that users don't want to switch because snote had more features but they are making it harder and harder to get snote back with fully functionality so it is only matter of time until it is fully uncompatible. But I Can find it on play store so it probably still works. If you hold the s pen button and touch the screen with the pen twice you will get an action memo like note with Samsung notes but you probably know that and this is the only thing I need ^^ what do you mean with fully installed after updated to oreo? I did a factory reset before and after I flashed oreo with Odin. And then I restored all my files with smart switch from PC. If you want to keep your data you can wait for OTA update or try dirty flashing with Odin but if you get any fc's after you updated them you will still need to factory reset to get rid of these errors. Thanks for this suggestion but unfortunately I don't own any smart home or Google home devices except of chromecast and this is not enough ^^
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Thanks for the quick response. I will probably wait for the OTA for Oreo since I’ve waited this long and I’ve heard rumors it’s coming very soon. Yes, I am aware that you are able to open Samsung Notes the same way you were able to open Action Memo.
The S Note app that’s on the Play Store is not the original version and is missing numerous features. While there still a few features that are better than the Samsung Notes app, if that was my choice I would’ve probably followed your lead and stuck with Samsung Notes. Luckily, I was able to get the S Note app with Action Memo installed on my phone pretty quickly and eventually found a way to get the entire S Note app that besides having Action Memo, it also has Photo Note, Easy Chart, Idea Sketch, Scrapbook, and the rest. So that’s what I meant I took me some time to find a way to get the whole app side loaded and fully installed on my phone. I actually found the answer on this site. So I was trying to explain that I am somewhat worried that when I update to Oreo, it won’t work or I’ll have to do it all over again. I really hope not.
I also really hope that Samsung changes it’s mind with Samsung Notes in that either they improve the app with all, if not more, of the S Note features or just bring back S Notes. I didn’t use the S Pen really at all because I was really unaware of all its capabilities, including S Note until I upgrade from the Note 2 to the Note 3. I really think if they expanded the features of the app they would leave a lot of phones in the dust. There’s a member of XDA, tah480, who has some really great ideas on how the could really perfect S Note and make a phenomenal app. I already feel it’s probably the best app ever and with his ideas it would really be unreal.
I hope that it explains what I posted better. Also, while my phone isn’t perfect, I’m wondering if there is a weird delayed issue with location. I’ve added a lot of places in Trusted Places and will always add more every time it doesn’t let me in, but I’ll also open the Map app or ask Google where I am and then sure enough it works, but again only temporarily. It also seems to work temporarily after a reboot.
Oh and to the other post, I actually found the complete opposite about the AOD. I had mine going off at night and I changed it because I though it was having an effect on a clock/weather widget. Now it seem the Smart Lock is actually working better, still unfortunately not like it did. I’m just disappointed because I was really hoping then when I updated to Oreo I was hoping that would fix it, but it sounds like that’s not going to happen.
The only other thing that’s interesting is I notice I have a delayed issue with updating/installing apps on Google Play. They download and then they sit there and either eventually get installed or I have a workaround to get it to work. The only thing I could think about is I disabled the DT ignite (or whatever it was called before). It was my understanding that you should disable it. I’m wondering if I put it back, if these issues would start working again.

The most frustrating silly bugs, makes the Mi 9 a pain to own

This phone was meant to be the best mobile I've ever purchased, but silly things are putting me off. I am only 4 months into ownership, and now looking to part company with my Mi 9 as soon as possible.
1. The data just stops working when the phone loses and regains signal - as covered in a variety of other XDA threads and elsewhere. Makes the phone totally useless to someone like me who does a lot of travelling on underground trains and on motorways - I am missing alerts, messages, emails because of this.
2. The flashlight/torch keeps turning itself on randomly without any user intervention.
3. Since the last update, Google Photos has all the images showing with a crazy contrast level that makes them hard to look at. Again, covered in lots of threads elsewhere including temporary "fixes", but frustrating.
Anything I'm missing?
I'm not in a position to root etc to try other ROMs as I rely heavily on Google Pay which is broken on rooted/unlocked phones. Current ROM 10.2.28.0 (PFAEUXM). Reporting to Xiaomi I might as well just shout my grievances into a well... :crying:

Not judging just having question to
1. Does it not reconnect to the Internet after it lost signal? When I use the underground and loose signal but get out of it it works for me still. Or is your problem different?
2. Did you link the flashlight with the Assistant button?
3. I just checked Google photos but don't see any difference in picture view. How do I see the high contrast you have?
Sincerely a new Xiaomi user

Same version of miui, locked, unrooted.
1. Never had I experienced something like that
2. Never had I experienced something like that
3. Most likely a Google photos issue. After the latest Google app update (not Google photos app) it seems to be fixed.

bungalowbill said:
This phone was meant to be the best mobile I've ever purchased, but silly things are putting me off. I am only 4 months into ownership, and now looking to part company with my Mi 9 as soon as possible.
1. The data just stops working when the phone loses and regains signal - as covered in a variety of other XDA threads and elsewhere. Makes the phone totally useless to someone like me who does a lot of travelling on underground trains and on motorways - I am missing alerts, messages, emails because of this.
2. The flashlight/torch keeps turning itself on randomly without any user intervention.
3. Since the last update, Google Photos has all the images showing with a crazy contrast level that makes them hard to look at. Again, covered in lots of threads elsewhere including temporary "fixes", but frustrating.
Anything I'm missing?
I'm not in a position to root etc to try other ROMs as I rely heavily on Google Pay which is broken on rooted/unlocked phones. Current ROM 10.2.28.0 (PFAEUXM). Reporting to Xiaomi I might as well just shout my grievances into a well... :crying:
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I agree on 1 and 2
The 3rd bug I experienced also on havoc gsi so I don't really think it is miui specific.
I would add to the list weirdly working auto brightness, on other phones it works way better than on mi9
Also notifications icons limit on statusbar is set incorrectly, fix for that is in beta since month or maybe two but xiaomi prefers to change notch shape rather than fixing bugs in stable rom...
And the last one is more like a visual "glitch" than a bug. statusbar is a little taller than a notch

I don't have any of these bugs (running Revolution OS - modified MIUI stock rom).
Point 3. (as someone already said) disappeared after an update, although the official google support told me it has something to do with the vendor in particular (even though some OnePlus 7 pro devices are affected as well).
Never heard anything like point 1. tbh. I would recommend leaving stock rom behind and either go for xiaomi.eu/revolution OS or some other sort of Rom. Trust me there is way less bloatware and a much better overall experience compared to stock rom.

cihot said:
Not judging just having question to
1. Does it not reconnect to the Internet after it lost signal? When I use the underground and loose signal but get out of it it works for me still. Or is your problem different?
2. Did you link the flashlight with the Assistant button?
3. I just checked Google photos but don't see any difference in picture view. How do I see the high contrast you have?
Sincerely a new Xiaomi user
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1. That's correct - it shows full bars and the 4G symbol and you can make and receive calls and texts, but you cannot pass any data until you toggle data off/on or reboot. This is number one bug - what use a communication device that stops communication and you don't know about it. I am confused how it does not affect everyone on this ROM however there are more than enough people saying it is happening to them.
2. Yes, long press of assistant button to toggle flashlight. But it still turns on randomly even when the phone is just sat on the desk!
3. This is fixed apparently by disabling automatic contrast and then reinstalling Google photos - so maybe you won't see this? The symptoms are - open Google Photos, tap on any photo, after a second it changes the contrast of the image so you can barely see it.

1. Even worse: if my Mi 9 loses signal it will never reconnect unless I restart the phone. Happened on Global ROM and Xiaomi.EU ROM.

1. The data/Signal problems are 100% Provider/Region related. If not, everybody would have that same Problem.
2. If you blame the device / Stock Rom why do you come with those problems to xda? Nobody here is working for xiaomi, go to them.
3. If you like xda you should be able to use the search, all of your problems are solved a long time ago and solutions are all over xda. Just search for it.
The way you did it looks like a little child laying under the table crying and kicking around no matter who is around.

1. Can confirm mine definitely doesn't do that, would be horrible if it did, I wholeheartedly agree(miui 10.2.28 PFAEUXM). Then again I only had it for 2 weeks, wouldn't be surprised if something like this would start happening in the future, such is the life of "flagship killers", but I knew the risks when I jumped aboard even though I had the budget for an s10+ or 7 pro.
2.Never had it happen but that sounds like the kind of bug that would definitely be fixed with a minor software update. If the problem has been reoccurring after subsequent updates then a hard reset would be worth a try.
3. Not an app I use.
If you have a warranty then it should be applicable for that signal issue, it should also be easy to reproduce in a competent repair service.

Here is mine...
1. I also experience this sometimes, connection seems lost even though 4g signal is full bar, have to turn on airplane mode to refresh then it will have connection again.
2. Never happened to me..
3. This was fixed now, just update google app and gphotos. It was weird when it was like that, but now it is ok.

1. What's your preferred network type set for? I had all sorts of connection issues on AT&T USA until I switched to GSM/WCMA/LTE. I had it set for LTE Only for the longest time but on a road trip realized that wasn't always possible.

1. Never had that
2. Never had that
You might want to check with your ISP.

Yeah,there are some annoying bugs that im experiencing as well. That shouldnt happen in the flagship line. But on the other hand,there is no better phone i could buy for the money,so i will just wait and hope those bugs will be fixed soon. Otherwise its just great phone and i wouldnt give up this phone just for the camera itself.

Research dont complain
saturday_night said:
1. The data/Signal problems are 100% Provider/Region related. If not, everybody would have that same Problem.
2. If you blame the device / Stock Rom why do you come with those problems to xda? Nobody here is working for xiaomi, go to them.
3. If you like xda you should be able to use the search, all of your problems are solved a long time ago and solutions are all over xda. Just search for it.
The way you did it looks like a little child laying under the table crying and kicking around no matter who is around.
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I agree with your response totally bro !

saturday_night said:
1. The data/Signal problems are 100% Provider/Region related. If not, everybody would have that same Problem.
2. If you blame the device / Stock Rom why do you come with those problems to xda? Nobody here is working for xiaomi, go to them.
3. If you like xda you should be able to use the search, all of your problems are solved a long time ago and solutions are all over xda. Just search for it.
The way you did it looks like a little child laying under the table crying and kicking around no matter who is around.
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Wow, what a sense of community. What did your reply add to the conversation? Nothing. Disgusting behaviour.

bungalowbill said:
Wow, what a sense of community. What did your reply add to the conversation? Nothing. Disgusting behaviour.
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Well, you were the one that came here complaining. As he explained you, the signal problems are operator related, otherwise we all would have them, and I can tell you I used 3 different carriers in my country and they all work flawlessly.
Also, those problems you talk about have long been solved, I'd suggest you spend your time searching the forum instead complaining for no reasons.

omgomg said:
Well, you were the one that came here complaining. As he explained you, the signal problems are operator related, otherwise we all would have them, and I can tell you I used 3 different carriers in my country and they all work flawlessly.
Also, those problems you talk about have long been solved, I'd suggest you spend your time searching the forum instead complaining for no reasons.
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I agree
Best would be to close this thread

bungalowbill said:
Wow, what a sense of community. What did your reply add to the conversation? Nothing. Disgusting behaviour.
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Totally agree
Get used to this
Almost all xiaomi mi series communities are just horrible and often unacceptable

1. Never had that
2. Same
3. App specific issue - already fixed.
I do have other bugs that annoys me more, like:
1) screens turns on out of the blue, no notification is shown - but if I unlock the phone, I can see that there is a lower priority (not showed on lock screen) notification..
2) when alarm rings, opening the clock app (by clicking on the current time on the widget) does not show the alarm and a stop button, instead I need to pull in notifications and click on the stop action there.
3) android auto: different issues.. sometimes the call app does not appear on the notification area, so I had an issue where android auto disconnected, and I could not disconnect the call. Spotify also does not launch from the car dash, I have to manually open it on my phone. could be app specific, but knowing issues with android auto on other Xiaomi phones, I'm not sure.

omgomg said:
Well, you were the one that came here complaining. As he explained you, the signal problems are operator related, otherwise we all would have them, and I can tell you I used 3 different carriers in my country and they all work flawlessly.
Also, those problems you talk about have long been solved, I'd suggest you spend your time searching the forum instead complaining for no reasons.
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I can't find anyone explaining how to fix 1 and 2.
Also, 1 not carrier specific - happens to me on both EE and Vodafone in the UK and other people reporting other various networks Europe wide.
Frankly, I would say if you don't have anything to add, you leave the thread. Or carry on wasting your time replying to things you can't help with, your choice.