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Purchased Note 5 gold on eBay from US seller. Turns out the phone was from Taiwan. This before I knew about model numbers and I thought that the bands were all I needed to think about to make sure it would work in southern VT US with AT&T. Obviously, came to find out Samsung has regional model numbers.
I love the 9208 for many reasons: unlocked, no AT&T bloatware, and a few other things that just seem to make it a better phone. However, no Samsung Pay and I can't register the phone on Samsung in the US. I don't care about the registering, but I REALLY want Samsung Pay. So, my question....
1. Can I root the phone and get Samsung Pay? I read somewhere that rooting "kicks off Knox" which is apparently bad (I have no idea what that means). Does that mean that I can root and still can't get SP? Also, if I root, what do I lose and what do I gain?
2. Flashing roms. I used to do this in the old days, but spent a few mindless years with iphone (for my husband and daughter) so I am starting over and consider myself a noob. So, can I flash a rom to get SP? Do I flash, then root? Does flashing automatically mean I am rooted? Or do I root first, then flash, then do I get SP? Finally, what do I lose flashing and what do I gain?
3. Lastly, does anyone know if and when the Taiwan model 9208 will get SP from Samsung?
Sorry for all the questions - thought I would get it all in one post! Thanks so much for any help and advice. Oh, and before anyone lectures me for buying non-US model just to get a color or something, please refrain! I already know I should have realized Samsung had regional models - my stupid mistake!
Welcome to the club!
I got the Singapore 920i version 1 for the Gold and 2 for the 64gb !
In answer of your questions. ..
1. No. Root is incompatible with SP.
But I think Android pay can work with Dr. KETAN'S rom and his kernel
Haven't tried it out yet but at least it let me install. SP wouldn't even allow install.
2. Flashing as of now will help no effect on SP. But there are some Roms out there that improve battery life and have mods..I'm on the latest Dr. Ketan 4.1
3. Unknown.
As to if the version you bought will be compatible with your carrier you can check on http://www.willmyphonework.net/
Compare your model with the 920a for at&t
Oh and enjoy ?
Hi all,
I bought an unlocked note 9 from eBay which arrived today. I got it set up and went to begin installing a different firmware to be able to get the one UI update - only to find out it's a N960U1! I'm in the UK so was expecting/hoping for a N960F.
It's all working, calls work, I've pulled over 3GB of data today all nice and fast, texts working etc. If I was the 'average user' I wouldn't know that it's not a UK one...
My question is, am I likely to hit any road blocks? As long as the radios all work I can't imagine there being any and the play store has all the apps I use available. I'm just wondering if I'm at any advantage/disadvantage?
Thanks
spears93 said:
Hi all,
I bought an unlocked note 9 from eBay which arrived today. I got it set up and went to begin installing a different firmware to be able to get the one UI update - only to find out it's a N960U1! I'm in the UK so was expecting/hoping for a N960F.
It's all working, calls work, I've pulled over 3GB of data today all nice and fast, texts working etc. If I was the 'average user' I wouldn't know that it's not a UK one...
My question is, am I likely to hit any road blocks? As long as the radios all work I can't imagine there being any and the play store has all the apps I use available. I'm just wondering if I'm at any advantage/disadvantage?
Thanks
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I'm on the same boat (I mean, a similar situation because I'm not in the UK I'm in El Salvador). When I received my phone I started looking for the new UI, but I noticed that I had a very old android build version (I was in September security patch, I received my phone February 11) I started reading about and found out that N960U is the branded version of the note in the US. I wanted to update by Odin to one UI but I was afraid to get my phone carrier locked so after reading a lot more, I found that you can update using the right firmware for the phone (N960U) you don't lose carrier unlock and in my case after installing updates, I don't even have any bloatware.
Now, after this context history, I can tell you that the only thing that will affects is any "radio band enhance" or "carrier feature" and that's because you will not be able to install any UK carrier software to that version because N960U and N960F are different hardware, not just software.
Maybe there is another road block that is about updates, I'm on 9.0 but with January security patch, I have not received any new update. To be hones I'm not sure if there is a new one, so I need to wait to confirm that OTA updates are working for me, if not I will take the time to update by ODIN again haha so that's not something that will drive me crazy, and also related to this I think that N960U android versions are coming faster than I thought, some of my friends with N9600 are still stuck on 8.1
If you want to upgrade go to the following thread, there you will have enough information to update.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/how-to/guide-upgrade-oreo-to-pie-one-ui-t3888711
Awesome, nice one dude
I used Odin on my previous S8+ to be able to install the one UI beta and that worked fine. Though it did come with a couple of apps that were a part of that carriers firmware (three UK)
I'm aware that the F uses an exynos processor whereas the U is Snapdragon and have seen a couple of guides already. Though they use AT&T firmware and, from what I've seen, have bloatware that would literally be useless to me.
I'll have a look at the guide you linked.
I'd like to have one UI again, but can happily live with the Samsung experience UI if I had to.
spears93 said:
Awesome, nice one dude
I used Odin on my previous S8+ to be able to install the one UI beta and that worked fine. Though it did come with a couple of apps that were a part of that carriers firmware (three UK)
I'm aware that the F uses an exynos processor whereas the U is Snapdragon and have seen a couple of guides already. Though they use AT&T firmware and, from what I've seen, have bloatware that would literally be useless to me.
I'll have a look at the guide you linked.
I'd like to have one UI again, but can happily live with the Samsung experience UI if I had to.
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What's the software version that you currently running?
kevindevonwilliams said:
What's the software version that you currently running?
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8.1 with Samsung experience 9.5
Build number ends ARL1
spears93 said:
8.1 with Samsung experience 9.5
Build number ends ARL1
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Option1:
You can flash the Pie beta since you're running U1, there isn't an official release of Pie as yet.
Option2:
You can switch your device to the U firmware and flash the latest OTA however you would have to manually update each time because you won't be getting an update automatically.
kevindevonwilliams said:
Option1:
You can flash the Pie beta since you're running U1, there isn't an official release of Pie as yet.
Option2:
You can switch your device to the U firmware and flash the latest OTA however you would have to manually update each time because you won't be getting an update automatically.
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How come the U firmware wouldn't get OTAs?
My S8+ was flashed to get the beta and that received OTA updates.
If I'm to go onto one UI I'd want it to get OTA updates still. If that means waiting for an official release then so be it
On a different note, I installed an app to get the FM radio working today. Can't do that with the UK exynos version ?
spears93 said:
How come the U firmware wouldn't get OTAs?
My S8+ was flashed to get the beta and that received OTA updates.
If I'm to go onto one UI I'd want it to get OTA updates still. If that means waiting for an official release then so be it
On a different note, I installed an app to get the FM radio working today. Can't do that with the UK exynos version
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Because on the U most OTA comes from the carrier (ATT & VZW) while the rest comes from Samsung.
U1 all updates come from Samsung but U1 updates are months behind.
Advantage of running U firmware is you always get to be on the latest OTA as one is available.
kevindevonwilliams said:
Because on the U most OTA comes from the carrier (ATT & VZW) while the rest comes from Samsung.
U1 all updates come from Samsung but U1 updates are months behind.
Advantage of running U firmware is you always get to be on the latest OTA as one is available.
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So correct me if I'm wrong but to simplify what you're saying:
The U gets the latest updates sooner but comes with carrier bloat
The U1 gets non bloated updates but Samsung doesn't release then until months later?
I'll leave it and wait if that's the case. I'd be more bothered about having bloat than One UI
spears93 said:
So correct me if I'm wrong but to simplify what you're saying:
The U gets the latest updates sooner but comes with carrier bloat
The U1 gets non bloated updates but Samsung doesn't release then until months later?
I'll leave it and wait if that's the case. I'd be more bothered about having bloat than One UI
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Well yes the U comes with bloatware but the amount varies according to carrier, but since you're in the UK. Your CSC will read as XAA/XAA so therefore I doubt you would have any bloatware.
I know this because I myself had own a US device while using in the UK.
kevindevonwilliams said:
Well yes the U comes with bloatware but the amount varies according to carrier, but since you're in the UK. Your CSC will read as XAA/XAA so therefore I doubt you would have any bloatware.
I know this because I myself had own a US device while using in the UK.
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Right, I'm with you, thanks.
My current carrier software version version is XAA/XAA and theres no bloat so I know what I'm hunting for now
Cheers for your help mate
spears93 said:
Right, I'm with you, thanks.
My current carrier software version version is XAA/XAA and theres no bloat so I know what I'm hunting for now
Cheers for your help mate
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Right so even if you switch to U firmware it would still remain XAA/XAA because that would be the default CSC code for Unbranded for American model. F model is normally XEU or BTU
kevindevonwilliams said:
Right so even if you switch to U firmware it would still remain XAA/XAA because that would be the default CSC code for Unbranded for American model. F model is normally XEU or BTU
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When I did the S8+ I had to go through a pretty big list to find the BTU firmware so assumed I'd have to do the same for the N9
I might give it a go if I get a chance this week
Seeing as you have the US variant of the Note 9. You may have issues receieving connecting to certain networks outside the US. As most US Networks use a different LTE band from the EU/UK
Hey guys,
I've been up and down the forums looking for answers and come out thoroughly confused, so thought it would be best to ask for help from the professionals.
I am in New Zealand and have recently purchased an imported S10 from the states (site never said it was imported, would have gone local had I known), model SM-G973U. I've since realised that the phone will not update, and has been stuck on the June security patch since I got it. Contacted Samsung NZ and they said that because the phone isn't approved by my local carrier (Spark) no updates are getting pushed through.
I've thought of flashing a Spark-based version of the phone so I can receive updates but because the local versions of this phone are a different model (SM-G973F) I'm worried whether this will even work or if it will brick my phone entirely.
Is this something I can safely do, or will I have to resort to flashing updates manually?
Thanks guys, these forums really are great.
NikolaiA said:
Hey guys,
I've been up and down the forums looking for answers and come out thoroughly confused, so thought it would be best to ask for help from the professionals.
I am in New Zealand and have recently purchased an imported S10 from the states (site never said it was imported, would have gone local had I known), model SM-G973U. I've since realised that the phone will not update, and has been stuck on the June security patch since I got it. Contacted Samsung NZ and they said that because the phone isn't approved by my local carrier (Spark) no updates are getting pushed through.
I've thought of flashing a Spark-based version of the phone so I can receive updates but because the local versions of this phone are a different model (SM-G973F) I'm worried whether this will even work or if it will brick my phone entirely.
Is this something I can safely do, or will I have to resort to flashing updates manually?
Thanks guys, these forums really are great.
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Hi dude,
Don't try to update your G973U with a G973F firmware coz SoC of those devices are different ! Your model has a snapdragon but G973F (international S10 version) has an Exynos (Samsung made chipset).
What you can do if you really want to update it is to download this firmware and flash it through latest Odin (google or youtube this if you don't know how to proceed).
P.S. Firmware I linked here is the USA unbranded one, idk really know if this CSC will support your local carrier so make a backup of your device before processing !
Hey sorry I've been too caught up in life to try this until now, but I gave that firmware a go, flashed it with the latest odin and it's worked without a hitch, carrier settings intact and all.
Thanks for the guidance!
Tagdu17 said:
Hi dude,
Don't try to update your G973U with a G973F firmware coz SoC of those devices are different ! Your model has a snapdragon but G973F (international S10 version) has an Exynos (Samsung made chipset).
What you can do if you really want to update it is to download and flash it through latest Odin (google or youtube this if you don't know how to proceed).
P.S. Firmware I linked here is the USA unbranded one, idk really know if this CSC will support your local carrier so make a backup of your device before processing !
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NikolaiA said:
Hey sorry I've been too caught up in life to try this until now, but I gave that firmware a go, flashed it with the latest odin and it's worked without a hitch, carrier settings intact and all.
Thanks for the guidance!
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You're welcome, I'm glad it worked for you !
I bought a Note 9 from Amazon I thought it was an official AT&T phone but it is the unlocked version. My unlocked version does not support a number of AT&T's features I would like to have access too. I have read how to flash the Rom and I know how to do it. I downloaded a Rom which I thought was the AT&T stock rom but it was actually the same Rom I had the unlocked version. So when I flashed it it was the same as before. I think it is possible it flash the phone so that it is like I bought it from AT&T. I have seen people do this on youtube with their Galaxy note 10's. I am unable to find the Official Stock Rom or maybe I have and am unsure if it is the official one. So if anyone knows where I can get the dang official Rom so I can flash my unlocked phone and turn it into an official AT&T phone that would really help me. Thank you very much.
My Model Number is
SM-N96OU1
My Baseband Version is
N96OU1UEU4DTC7
My build number is
QPA.190711.020.N96OU1UEU4DTC7
Will this one work on my phone?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/how-to/stock-official-android-pie-t3897339
Nym the Robot said:
I bought a Note 9 from Amazon I thought it was an official AT&T phone but it is the unlocked version. My unlocked version does not support a number of AT&T's features I would like to have access too. I have read how to flash the Rom and I know how to do it. I downloaded a Rom which I thought was the AT&T stock rom but it was actually the same Rom I had the unlocked version. So when I flashed it it was the same as before. I think it is possible it flash the phone so that it is like I bought it from AT&T. I have seen people do this on youtube with their Galaxy note 10's. I am unable to find the Official Stock Rom or maybe I have and am unsure if it is the official one. So if anyone knows where I can get the dang official Rom so I can flash my unlocked phone and turn it into an official AT&T phone that would really help me. Thank you very much.
My Model Number is
SM-N96OU1
My Baseband Version is
N96OU1UEU4DTC7
My build number is
QPA.190711.020.N96OU1UEU4DTC7
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In sammobile. Use samfirm or frija for fast download.
Thank you for your help!
Nym the Robot said:
Sorry but that did not answer my question.
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In sammobile. Use samfirm or frija for fast download.
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in fact that DID answer your question.
in sammobile, you could find your "carrier" rom version as you want, which is U, not U1 (unlock version).
then use samfirm or frija to download the rom with max speed.
https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-note9/firmware/#SM-N960U
Thank you very much for clearing that up for me. Very helpful!
Nym the Robot said:
Thank you very much for clearing that up for me. Very helpful!
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very glad that helps :good:
So If I want to flash it too the official AT&T I should look for SM-N96OU instead of SM-N96OU1, correct? I am nervous about bricking the phone. I have read that the AT&T version and the unlocked phones are exactly the same they just have different firmware. Is this true?
Nym the Robot said:
So If I want to flash it too the official AT&T I should look for SM-N96OU instead of SM-N96OU1, correct? I am nervous about bricking the phone. I have read that the AT&T version and the unlocked phones are exactly the same they just have different firmware. Is this true?
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yes.
for more information about this, you could read below thread to be sure:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-fold/how-to/f900u-f900u1-firmware-links-t3922870
Nym the Robot said:
So If I want to flash it too the official AT&T I should look for SM-N96OU instead of SM-N96OU1, correct? I am nervous about bricking the phone. I have read that the AT&T version and the unlocked phones are exactly the same they just have different firmware. Is this true?
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I'm looking to convert my SM-N960U1 (unlocked) to the AT&T version as well. I'm seeing the following as the lastest firmware I should be downloading to convert to AT&T. Can anyone verify this because the N960U does not have AT&T firmware available?
...firmware/SM-N960U1/ATT/download/N960U1UEU4DTC7/335086/
All the U firmware is the same. If you have At&t sim you can flash any Note 9 U firmware and it will provision to your sim. If you are coming from U1 you will need to do a factory wipe. Was your device purchased as unlocked or was it U?....
Oops never mind I see its unlocked.
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For some reason i feel that Sammobile its more about selling firmware software to buyers of samsung instead of helping people take the best out of their phones. Some of use pay over the 1000 dollar for a phone and dont get easy help while samsung should atleast give us the freedom to get the firmwares for our devices for free. Sam mobile has ablot of information on their website,but ofcourse nothing for free. Even signing up their websites is an issue,and to get support thats another issue. So i most say Sam mobile its all about selling Samsung software,while you and me who buy the phones,not sammobile! Resell it back to us. Seriously its discrimination in my eyes. Maybe am wrong, but thats how i feel about. Now i dont know what business relation sammobile has with samsung,but i know the founder is not a. Chinese, but a Holland guy. Thank u.
I'll admit I'm a noob, but I was wondering if there were guides or a way to flash the official T-Mobile carrier firmware on an unlocked s21 ultra by chance? If anyone can point me in the right direction please. Thank you and sorry if it's a dumb question.
fil.lujan said:
I'll admit I'm a noob, but I was wondering if there were guides or a way to flash the official T-Mobile carrier firmware on an unlocked s21 ultra by chance? If anyone can point me in the right direction please. Thank you and sorry if it's a dumb question.
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The SM-G998U1 is Multi-CSC Device (OYN). Change the CSC to TMO by entering the following code on the TouchPad. *#272*YOURIMEINUMBER# Select TMO then install.
varcor said:
The SM-G998U1 is Multi-CSC Device (OYN). Change the CSC to TMO by entering the following code on the TouchPad. *#272*YOURIMEINUMBER# Select TMO then install.
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I had tried that, it states "unable to process request" Appreciate your help though.
fil.lujan said:
I had tried that, it states "unable to process request" Appreciate your help though.
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Is it a US Device (Snapdragon)?
varcor said:
Is it a US Device (Snapdragon)?
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Yes. Sm-g998u1
fil.lujan said:
Yes. Sm-g998u1
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Apparently I read with android 11 changing csc isn't allowed?
fil.lujan said:
Apparently I read with android 11 changing csc isn't allowed?
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If that's the case you can download Tmobile firmware and flash to your device.
downloading/flashing Tmobile firmware to S20Ultra unlocked
I really want Tmobile's advanced messaging feature back. I downloaded Frija (to download the firmware images) My assumption is that since I have model number SM-G988U1 and want to flash tmobile's firmware I need to use SM-G988U with CSC as TMB to download the correct firmware. Is this...
forums.androidcentral.com
fil.lujan said:
Apparently I read with android 11 changing csc isn't allowed?
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Haven't read that, this post may help.
[GUIDE] Change your CSC on any Samsung Galaxy devices running Android 10 or older - will also work in Android 11 for builds older than January 2021
Hello everyone! I made this video tutorial regarding changing the CSC on your Samsung Galaxy device. This method will work for Android 10 and older, and Android 11 (builds older than January 2021). Credits to...
forum.xda-developers.com
varcor said:
If that's the case you can download Tmobile firmware and flash to your device.
downloading/flashing Tmobile firmware to S20Ultra unlocked
I really want Tmobile's advanced messaging feature back. I downloaded Frija (to download the firmware images) My assumption is that since I have model number SM-G988U1 and want to flash tmobile's firmware I need to use SM-G988U with CSC as TMB to download the correct firmware. Is this...
forums.androidcentral.com
Haven't read that, this post may help.
[GUIDE] Change your CSC on any Samsung Galaxy devices running Android 10 or older - will also work in Android 11 for builds older than January 2021
Hello everyone! I made this video tutorial regarding changing the CSC on your Samsung Galaxy device. This method will work for Android 10 and older, and Android 11 (builds older than January 2021). Credits to...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Thank you for your input, I'll check those out. Appreciate you writing and posting these.
fil.lujan said:
Thank you for your input, I'll check those out. Appreciate you writing and posting these.
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Once last question, forgive my ignorance. Once I flash from the unlocked version to the T-Mobile branded firmware, will I need to manually flash each update that comes out for T-Mobile do you know?
fil.lujan said:
Once last question, forgive my ignorance. Once I flash from the unlocked version to the T-Mobile branded firmware, will I need to manually flash each update that comes out for T-Mobile do you know?
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You SHOULD receive Tmobile updates once you're on Tmobile firmware and network but I don't think it's something that can be guaranteed. Your Primary CSC can't be changed to TMO and therin lies the problem. In the last couple of years Samsung has complicated firmware and CSC transitions on it's numerous array of devices. Lots of potential users lean to an unlocked device thinking they'll have more freedom of choice but it won't always end up as a benefit. I always recommend buying your service provider's device for full functionality but it doesn't always work out since some users tend to swap service provider's on a regular basis.
I'm on T-mobile's network, month to month, no long term commitment which adds flexibility but even being on their network I didn't aquire their Branded Device. I have the Hong Kong SM-G9980 variant. I couldn't care less about 5G, to me it's the biggest marketing scam since light beer. The only other feature I lose is Carrier Aggregation which much like 5G enables faster download speeds. I can easily have my laptop handle this and transfer files or data to my device. So there's no carrier bloatware, the bootloader is unlocked, I get updates from Samsung typically sooner than US devices and still have Wi-Fi Calling and VoLTE via Tmobile. Most users don't do much research to define which device is best suited for their needs. "I got this great deal on an S21 Ultra but..." We can point the finger at Samsung as well, way too many variants leads to a lot of problems.
varcor said:
You SHOULD receive Tmobile updates once you're on Tmobile firmware and network but I don't think it's something that can be guaranteed. Your Primary CSC can't be changed to TMO and therin lies the problem. In the last couple of years Samsung has complicated firmware and CSC transitions on it's numerous array of devices. Lots of potential users lean to an unlocked device thinking they'll have more freedom of choice but it won't always end up as a benefit. I always recommend buying your service provider's device for full functionality but it doesn't always work out since some users tend to swap service provider's on a regular basis.
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One last question. In order to go from the Samsung unlocked version to flash the TMobile firmware, does the bootloader need to be unlocked? Sorry for the numerous questions
fil.lujan said:
One last question. In order to go from the Samsung unlocked version to flash the TMobile firmware, does the bootloader need to be unlocked? Sorry for the numerous questions
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No
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No
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Thank you so much for all your help. I do appreciate you.
Hello did it work out?
TwistedTester said:
Hello did it work out?
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It did actually. Noticing my speeds are a bit faster and more consistent and getting rcs through Samsung messages to people even using Google messages on other carriers
fil.lujan said:
It did actually. Noticing my speeds are a bit faster and more consistent and getting rcs through Samsung messages to people even using Google messages on other carriers
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What did you do? What were the steps to flashing new csc? I’m on Verizon and I wanna go over to T-Mobile
TwistedTester said:
What did you do? What were the steps to flashing new csc? I’m on Verizon and I wanna go over to T-Mobile
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I downloaded the firmware from SamMobile and Odin then flashed it. I had the unlocked version I purchased from Samsung directly. when selecting the csc portion but it still shows the xaa portion as well. Not sure if I did it wrong but seems to be working for me. Putting it in download mode requires holding volume up/down and power. Every site I visited told the wrong directions
fil.lujan said:
I downloaded the firmware from SamMobile and Odin then flashed it. I had the unlocked version I purchased from Samsung directly. when selecting the csc portion but it still shows the xaa portion as well. Not sure if I did it wrong but seems to be working for me. Putting it in download mode requires holding volume up/down and power. Every site I visited told the wrong directions
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Oh okay okay, did you have to use Sam key after to switch csc? No right cause T-Mobile already worked.
TwistedTester said:
Oh okay okay, did you have to use Sam key after to switch csc? No right cause T-Mobile already worked.
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No I just did the firmware. Didn't do anything else with csc. Heard that's a pain in the ass with android 11