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Pin layout GPS to XDA cable needed

L.S.
Can some body help me to the pinlayout for a cable that connects a Haicon GPS203e to a XDA.
I have the layout for the GPS and XDA connector and can figure out the RX TX GND and V+ myself.
What i am looking for is special connections for DCD, CTS, RTS and DTR. Do I need to connect them to e.g. eachother or gound to activate transmission??
Greetz Francois

FVH said:
L.S.
Can some body help me to the pinlayout for a cable that connects a Haicon GPS203e to a XDA.
I have the layout for the GPS and XDA connector and can figure out the RX TX GND and V+ myself.
What i am looking for is special connections for DCD, CTS, RTS and DTR. Do I need to connect them to e.g. eachother or gound to activate transmission??
Greetz Francois
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I do not know about the Haicom but you should not need to connect these.
Most GPS transmit constant NMEA signal while it is turned on (power on and with satellite lock). The biggest problem for you is how to power the GPS.

Thanks for your reply,
Power should not be an issue, i will connect to the XDA carkit which has a regulated supply for the XDA that should work for the GPS.
What I have seen in the past is that some of the additional RS-232 control lines have to be connected either to each other or ground to activate communication. I am wondering if somebody has a layout of the XDA cable for Haicom (three-way cable : lighterplug/gps/xda)
Francois

You do NOT need to connect or short any of the other lines to make this work. I've done the same with a Pharos GPS and custom car kit, and only connected the data and ground lines.

Tom Tom and Haicon GPS need extra line!
Today I tried to hook up the GPS to the XDA carkit as suggested (only GND TX and RX) but Tom Tom will generate an error saying it cannot connect to com1:
I noticed a difference in behaviour when using the orginal cable: when connecting the XDA it opens active sync immediatly.
Did some reverse engineering and found you need to connect the DCD to +5 volts. After that it works as designed.
Got the XDA carkit running with a Haicon GPS!
Francois

Newbie help
i would like to use my GPS Heicom 203 that i have purchaased for iPAQ 3870, can you help me with the connections to avoid damages in my XDA ? I am a newbie of this kind of works, so i wouldn't make disasters.
TIA
ConteMax

Reverse engineered XDA Carkit
Not sure is this is what you're looking for but a guy from the Netherlands did some reverse enginering on the XDA carkit...
Check out http://www.pocketpc-club.nl/content.php?id=1275
RTS - Purple
DCD - Red
DTR - Blue
CTS - Yellow
RXD - Green
TXD - Orange
GND - Black
+5.5 V - Brown
Cheers...
Mike

Some additional info from the guy in the Netherlands.
L.S.
It´s funny to see that I have originally started this topic and now are beeing refered back to my own information!!
If you need some additional info have a look at www.vanhemert.biz or drop me a mail.
Francois

connect GPS to XDA
Do you have connected Heicon GPS to XDA ? If so, can you post me the pinout connection to use Heicon with XDA ? Many thanks in advance.
P.S. Sorry, i don't want to make disasters.
Thanks again
ConteMax

ConteMax I have received your message to my e-mail adres last week and have sent you a reply to your questions. If you need the layout, please have a look at the following website: http://www.vanhemert.biz/Car_Kit_GPS_Connection.htm This page describes how to connect a Haicon 203e GPS mouse to the O2 carkit.
If you do not have a carkit, have a look at the connector page at : http://www.xda-developers.com/connectors/ it describes the layout of the XDA connector.
The only thing you have to do is connect the GND, RX, TX, VCC and DCD line to get the thing up and running.
Francois

XDA/MDA Connector GPS
You need information about connector GPS.Please send me an e-mail
([email protected]) and i send you a Fax with original colors of cables.
You can use all GPS-Mouse with PS2 and serial-Connector.
Connector for XDA/MDA without the carkit look:www.holux.de

JL
Can some body help me to the pinlayout for a cable that connects a GPS ( rs232 ) receiver to a XDA.
I have the layout for the GPS and XDA
We need to powered GPS and XDA ( GND and +5V ) and after :
GPS TX must be connected on pin 10 ( RX RS232 ) XDA connector
GPS RX must be connected on pin 8 ( RX RS232 ) XDA connector
Is it right ?
JLuc

I would be interested to know if the new XDA IIs has the same pinout as the earlier XDA's.
It's all in the cause fo getting the XDA IIs to accept a serial connection from my garmin GPS V.
Currently i get an error indicating COM 1 is unavailable
Any other suggestions welcome

Guest, check under setting/connections, make sure that beams is unchecked, this will release com 1, also if you have an external keyboard driver loaded you will need to deactivate this also.

O2 Carkit + TomTom GPS Mouse

Sorry to bother this forum whith even more questions about my car kit and TomTom GPS
I am trying to conect my TomTom GPS Mouse to my O2 CarKit.
I have found the pin configuration from another post on this site for the O2 Carkit connector.
RTS - Purple
DCD - Red
DTR - Blue
CTS - Yellow
RXD - Green
TXD - Orange
GND - Black
+5.5 V - Brown
(I hope this is correct)
But what the pin configuration for the TomTom GPS Receivers RJ11 connector is - I have no idea.
Please help anybody who knows which pins connect with which.
Thanks...

Yeah this one took me a while too....
Ok this is how to do it:
This is how to install a Leadtek GPS-mouse on the original O2 Carkit.
(The mouse shipped with Tom Tom Navigator is a Leadtek)
First of all you only need the cable with the RJ11 plug and the gps mouse on it. The 12V adapterplug you don't need anymore.
Preparation:
On the Carkit is a weird looking black connector for the gps.
Cut that off...
Now connect a connection block(I don't know the english word for it, but i mean the white blocks with screws in them so you can connect wires with other wires) to the following wires:
Brown
Black
Orange
Green
Now you can start:
Now you can choose to connect the mouse directly of you can make a removable connection. When I installed my carkit I used a fixed connection, but when I helped a friend out installing his carkit I used a standard phone connection box. You need a box where you can plug in a RJ11 connector. This is a better option because jou can easely unplug the gps mouse en use it again with the 12V adapter. This may come in handy if you want to be able to navigate in an other car too (Rental car on vacation).
I will explain how to make a fixed connection, so mounting a box in between will be fairly easy.
1) Cut off the RJ11 plug from the mouse
2) Strip the wires
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Note: The color codes of Leadtek mouse change all the time!
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In my case it where the following colors:
[Red](VCC +5)
[Wit] (RX)
[Black] (TX)
[No isolation] (Aarde)
3) Connect [Red] with (Brown)
4) Connect [White] met (Green)
5) Connect [Black] met (Orange)
6) Connect [No isolation] met (Black)
This should work!
PS
It may be wise to mount a switch between the radio-mute cable, because it mutes when you start TomTom.
You might want to listen to music when driving and navigating long distances.

do you know the pin numbers on the rj11 connector incase my wires are different colours...

No but you can see the wire witch no isolation as Pin 4

You're welcom, by the way....

Thanks for your help - my sat nav is now working through the xda car kit.
I was a bit nervous when i pluged it in for the first time - but nothing blew up and it is now all working - i would recomend this setup to anybody.
It took me a few minutes to juggle all the volume settings around untill i found a combination that had phone calls and sat nav voice prompts all at the same level but once that was done everything is fine.

maxlw said:
No but you can see the wire witch no isolation as Pin 4
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Can you help me please????
when i connect the adaptercable from my gps system the xda stells me that the com1 port can't be found.
The tomtom software works, but the gps mouse is not recognised.
What can i do??
Thxs in advance,
rene from holland

Im sorry - i cant help - when i connected it all up it just worked first time - i had no error messages so have no experience in sorting them out...
check here http://www.pdashop.nl/support/1732/79 for a pin diagram for the rj11 connector for the leadtek gps mouse and check your wiring is the only thing i can suggest.

The connections should be as follows...
A1 to Black
A2 to Orange
A3 to Green
A4 to Brown
Hope this helps...

roycruse said:
Im sorry - i cant help - when i connected it all up it just worked first time - i had no error messages so have no experience in sorting them out...
check here http://www.pdashop.nl/support/1732/79 for a pin diagram for the rj11 connector for the leadtek gps mouse and check your wiring is the only thing i can suggest.
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I just heard from another member. The solution is simple: if i turn out the irda port it should be ok.
I'm gonna trye first thing tomorrow.
thxs,
rene

I am having a problem with the xda not charging properly in ther O2 cradle whilst the GPS mouse is connected - its almost as if the GPS mouse is using most of the available current.
Im thinking of adding a resistor in series with the +Ve feed to the GPS mouse to limit the current it can take hoping this will leave more for charging the xda.
Does anybody else have any experience with this... what value resistor should I use...

Im thinking of adding a resistor in series with the +Ve feed to the GPS mouse to limit the current it can take hoping this will leave more for charging the xda.
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Don't do that!!!!
It should work fine without...
Can you help me please????
when i connect the adaptercable from my gps system the xda stells me that the com1 port can't be found.
The tomtom software works, but the gps mouse is not recognised.
What can i do??
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IF COM1 can't be found you have installed it correctly!
Hook everything up like before and then disable beam connection in [settings],[connections],[Beam]
This is a known problem with navigating on a pda!
After that you will see that it works.
Just don't don't add anything yourself you'll probably mess up your hardware!!!
Here are the instructions in Dutch....
http://forum.pocketpc-club.nl/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12421&goto=nextoldest

GPS Receiver won't work :( Please help!

I have just got a Rikaline 6010 GPS unit, and make a cable that go's from the Ps/2 Connector to the XDA connector.. the GPS powers on, but Tomtom doesn't appear to be getting any data, on the GPS screen the little Satellite - - - PDA area is not showing any data being sent/received.
The PDA works fine, as I have it hooked up to my Digitraveler (Rikaline is for my dad)
I have tried selecting TomTom GPS Receiver, Rikaline 6010, NMEA 4800 from the GPS menu but none of them work
Rikaline have the Pinout in their manual: http://www.rikaline.com/download/GPS-6010-Manual-E.pdf
I have the RS232 TX & RX connected to Pin 8 & 10 on the XDA connector.
GND is on Pin 5 of the XDA connector, and +5 is taken from cigarette lighter.
Is this correct ?
Should I be using the TTL connections instead ? where would they go on the XDA ?
Many Thanks
Neil

Have you tried reversing the tx/rx connections, worth a try? How are you powering the gps?

GPS is being powered from ciggy lighter in the car, I've just made a PC cable and tried using some diagnostic software to read the raw data from the GPS and nothing
I think the unit may be knackered...

Well..... what do ya know! I thought what the hell.. i'll swap the data leads round and see if it makes any difference even though both cables were wired EXACTLY as is shown in the GPS manual. But IT WORKS!!
The unit can seem to hold a lock though, I will get one in about 20 secs if I unplug it and then plug back in, but after a minute or so it drops and never gets a lock again.
Could it be that the ciggy lighter (one supposed to be used to charge XDA) is not powerfull enough to do the XDA and GPS (the GPS doesn't appear to actually turn off when its losing the lock)
Cheers
Neil

Is it possible for you just to feed the gps with power using that adaptor? You could switch off power management on the xda temporarily so it stays on while experimenting.

Ok it doesn't appear to be a power thing, as the GPS does exactly the same thing when using my laptop, it will get a lock and hold the lock for exactly 2 minutes then the unit appears to power cycle as it loses all signal.

Certainly sounds like a component failure, can you return it or is it cannibalised?

Sent it back this afternoon, the unit has not been touched. Just made the XDA > Male PS/2 Connector, so hopefully it will work when the new one comes

ive also got the same uit and struggling to get it working i have tried to swapp the pins around too but nothing gps powers up and works fine but its not senidng data to the xda
looking at the datasheet i have connected the Rx RS-232 and Tx RS-232 to the pins 8 and 10 are they the right RX/TX's? as there are Rx TTL and Tx TTL too?
lmk cheers :\
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works ok with only one cobination but it shows the dots going to the pda on the gps screen but it stops after about 4-6 little dots then doesnt do nothing
HEEELLLP!!!! lol dont tell me i brought yet another bluddy gps and it dont want to work with my xda

Help Coverting USB GPS to XDA :( stuck and need help

hi all i brought a usb GPS receiver from off ebay (£38) for use with computer it is a NaviLock GPS which is suitable for PC, PDA and serial....
i have tried to get this to work but nothing
the model is: http://www.navilock.de/produkte/usb_gps.html BU-303
i have had a look at the xda connector place and am trying ti wire it up to a XDA car charger....
so far i have done....
RED wire - pin 21 (+5V) (on usb its +5V)
BLACK wire - pin 5 (GND) (on usb its GND)
GREEN wire - pin 8 (RS232_TXD) (on usb its DATA+)
WHITE wire - pin 10 (RS232_RXD) (on usb its DATA-)
could someone please help me as im totally confused why it will patch a signal but it wonr show on tomtom on serial 1 running v4.01.00 ppc2003 with baud rate of 4800 and nemea v2 or what ever it is
help me please
thx in advance
gaz

Looks like a usb only receiver to me.

um... but the serial and pda models are exactly the same as this but different conectors works fine on windows 98 but doesnt on xp :\ though its supposed to. pics up signal in like 10seconds much more powerfu lthen my old haicom 203e
but i want this on my xda badly dunno why it isnt working...
also i seem to have so many serial pports on my xda 1 lol its got:
com 9:
com 1:
com 2: (makes ppc go slow and freeze half the time)
usb on serial
ive tried them all but no luck :\ i swear for sure its connected up all ok :\
hellllp! lol

Try reversing the tx rx lines, it worked for swifty on his gps even though he wired it as per instructions.

tried everything :\ i rewired it back to usb to try out on my windows partition to make sure it wasnt a duff gps and it works exellent on windows 98 cant get it to work on xp nor how ever i hook it up on the xda doesnt work either the gps starts to flash to show it has a patch and thats like in my house its a hell of a powerful gps shame i cant get it on my xda
ah well waste of £40 damn gotta try flog it now

Garmin eTrex family GPS to HTC

sucsessfully linked Garmin eTrex GPS to HTC (Home made cable)
Works with TomTom navigator (avalible in yorks rom kitchin)
Features:
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1. Connect any Garmin eTrex family GPS to HTC Wallaby
2. Possible future mutli charge link to keep both HTC and Garmin charging from car battry.
Required items:
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1. HTC null modem cable, or Serial sync.*
2. Garmin eTrex GPS.
3. Thick card or old credit card (warning credit card will get destroyed)
* Depending on how made cable may get destroyed. to avoiding cutting the cable get a D9pin block with unsoldered pins.
Instructions:
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1. You will need an old credit card (or thick card), a small drill or hot needle, and some pins.
2. Take the credit card and carefully cut it to size. Use sandpaper to shape it.
Three holes should be made with either a hot needle or small drill. You will need to
position these holes so the pins will mate with the eTrex correctly.
If you use a hot needle, do it from the bottom side so that any excess melted plastic
doesn't interfere with the mating surfaces.
3. you will notice on the Garmin eTrex the connection has four holes, hole one, a small gill
then hole 2, hole 3 and hole 4.
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o | <--Power pin (pin 1)
---- <--Small gill (seperator)
o | <--Data in (pin 2)
o | <--Data out (pin 3)
o | <--Ground (pin 4)
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4. On the credit card find the pin in resembalence to the {pin 2} on hte garmin and solder a green wife to it, then the same for {pin 3} wising a white wire and then {pin 4} using a black wire.
5. Add some epoxy to provide strength and insulation
6. looking at the Male 9 pin D connector you pershased you will notice the pin layout is as follows.
1 2 3 4 5
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|o o o o o|
\o o o o/
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6 7 8 9
7. Solder the white wire to {pin 2} the green wire to {pin 3} and the black wire to {pin 5}
8. Seal the D connector consealing the wireing.
9. connect the HTC Serial syn/null modem cable to the D connector. open TomTom and away you go.

anyone
isnt anyone interested? lol

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raptorz2003x said:
isnt anyone interested? lol
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Hi raptor
I'm interested in that cable.
Can you post few pictures or send them on my mail?
I bought cable for qtek and garmin but I can't get them to work together.
Which com port have you been used on tomtom?
Thanks in advance
Regards
Kulla

Hey,
i am interessed tooo....

I am interested but cant follow the diagram, any chance of some pictures for dullards such as myself?

hi
sorry been away a few days. ill get pics done asap and mail to you ojk mate...

hello raptor
is it possible for you to write how did you configured your gps and is it working properly with tomtom?
I'm trying to use tomtom3 with mine etrex vista and can not get it to work with the navigation in the way it should. either map is moved a side and I'm flying on driving over the sea or something else.

tomtom
im usin tomtom 2 and its working ok. set to com 1 or 9 sometimes works, then change gps to garine etrex