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Sample video, it is awful :(

The video created by Kaiser is terrible!
Look into the example in this thread. Those people were just walking, normally.
And the video result is really bad, blurry on movement.
Did I do something wrong?

maybe there is a configuration section where you can set it to 25/30 frames per second¿...

No, there is no configuration like that.
I can only choose "video mode" and resolution.
No frame per second setting.
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maybe there is a configuration section where you can set it to 25/30 frames per second¿...
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With what kind of device are you comparing it to?
Another cameraphone that performs better, or a real video camera?
I have zero expectations from any cameraphone. They all have abysmal quality, it's a fundamental reality with the compromises in optics and sensor size needed to keep the phone portable.

I think you do something wrong...
Show in THIS Thread and you will see what a Video can look like. The Video there are very ok to good in my opinion..
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SKSAustin

Entropy512, I dont compare with other device and dont expect a very good quality. But I compared with the one created in this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328201
Like mentioned by SKSAustin.
As far as configuration, if you look into the camera, there is nothing special there, no fancy or detailed configuration.
You can only select resolution, which in this case I use 320x240.
So, I still cant figure out why the video was so bad.
It could be, because of the "indoor" situation, not enough light? Then the autofocus was not fast enough.
I have not tried outdoor btw (will do today).
But still, if that is the case, then it sucks!

something is wrong you have 3fps in that video

gogol said:
Entropy512, I dont compare with other device and dont expect a very good quality. But I compared with the one created in this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328201
Like mentioned by SKSAustin.
As far as configuration, if you look into the camera, there is nothing special there, no fancy or detailed configuration.
You can only select resolution, which in this case I use 320x240.
So, I still cant figure out why the video was so bad.
It could be, because of the "indoor" situation, not enough light? Then the autofocus was not fast enough.
I have not tried outdoor btw (will do today).
But still, if that is the case, then it sucks!
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Doesnt resolution = quality?

I tried a quick video last night (poor indoor lighting conditions) and i got exactly the same result - so hopefully it's merely because of the poor lighting.
I'll make some other vids and post them when i can!

This is very bad... but at the same time very funny to watch. They move like Akuma in Street Fighters...

This is very bad, but at the same time very funny to watch. They move like Akuma in Street Fighters...

Great, i can't open MP4s anymore! Quicktime comes up with:
-Error -2401: an invalid sample description was found in the movie.
lame!

Ok, I can confirm that this kind of bad video is caused by the indoor situation.
This morning, I created outdoor video something like in the other thread and it is nice.
See in the attachment.
Glad it was not a problem with hardware!
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This is very bad, but at the same time very funny to watch. They move like Akuma in Street Fighters...
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Yeah...that's great...
So, anyone with a little photographic background/experience could have thought up the explanation for your 3fps problem....: in low light the frame rate goes down like the shutterspeed on a regular photocamera would.
Sounds perfectly normal/plausible to me

Ihave the device and I would give the following scores to the camera:
Close up Mode : 9/10
Pictures :8/10
video : 8/10

mhg2000 said:
Ihave the device and I would give the following scores to the camera:
Close up Mode : 9/10
Pictures :8/10
video : 8/10
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Based on what?
I am visiting this forum looking for info on the TyTNII, as a replacement for my Nokia N95. I like the form factor of the TyTNII a lot, but things like the camera is really, really bad, when you are used to the N95.
The frame rate of the N95 is 30 fps in full vga resolution, meaning 4x the res of the TyTNII, and it doesn't drop to 3 fps just because of lower light levels. Besides, the still photos of the N95 is years ahead of the TyTNII, so if the latter one scores 8-9/10, I guess the N95 scores 20/10...
This is actually very sad for me, because I have been looking forward to the TyTNII since the first info was leaked, but now I am not so sure I want one after all, for this and a few other reasons. Hopefully a new ROM will fix some of these issues.
If you are going to tell me 'it's just a phone', then obviously you haven't tried the N95. It really goes a long way to replace your normal digicam. Nice to only have to carry a single device, and obviously the future.

you may want to check to make sure you do not have multiple other programs running when you go into video mode (memory crunch may slow performance)

HBK said:
Based on what?
I am visiting this forum looking for info on the TyTNII, as a replacement for my Nokia N95. I like the form factor of the TyTNII a lot, but things like the camera is really, really bad, when you are used to the N95.
The frame rate of the N95 is 30 fps in full vga resolution, meaning 4x the res of the TyTNII, and it doesn't drop to 3 fps just because of lower light levels. Besides, the still photos of the N95 is years ahead of the TyTNII, so if the latter one scores 8-9/10, I guess the N95 scores 20/10...
This is actually very sad for me, because I have been looking forward to the TyTNII since the first info was leaked, but now I am not so sure I want one after all, for this and a few other reasons. Hopefully a new ROM will fix some of these issues.
If you are going to tell me 'it's just a phone', then obviously you haven't tried the N95. It really goes a long way to replace your normal digicam. Nice to only have to carry a single device, and obviously the future.
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I think the N95 took great pics too, but do you think it's fair to compare the two? I think it's more fair to compare the E90 to the Tytn 2 as I think these two devices have more relations, than a multimedia device like the N95

Certainly, TyTn II is not for you
I have not and will not try N95, even though the camera and video might be better (obviously, because N95 is 5 MP), because simply Symbian is not my preferred Mobile OS.
Oh btw, I cant live without built-in qwerty keyboard ... that's all.
HBK said:
Based on what?
I am visiting this forum looking for info on the TyTNII, as a replacement for my Nokia N95. I like the form factor of the TyTNII a lot, but things like the camera is really, really bad, when you are used to the N95.
The frame rate of the N95 is 30 fps in full vga resolution, meaning 4x the res of the TyTNII, and it doesn't drop to 3 fps just because of lower light levels. Besides, the still photos of the N95 is years ahead of the TyTNII, so if the latter one scores 8-9/10, I guess the N95 scores 20/10...
This is actually very sad for me, because I have been looking forward to the TyTNII since the first info was leaked, but now I am not so sure I want one after all, for this and a few other reasons. Hopefully a new ROM will fix some of these issues.
If you are going to tell me 'it's just a phone', then obviously you haven't tried the N95. It really goes a long way to replace your normal digicam. Nice to only have to carry a single device, and obviously the future.
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1. The N95 really isn't a multimedia device. It's an advanced smartphone with extremely powerful hardware, but that label doesn't sell It does just about everything the TyTN II does, only lacking the qwerty and touch screen. Screen size is about the same and the resolution is identical. I prefer the Microsoft OS over S60, but that is my personal preference and I must admit that S60 have some very strong points over WM (and vice versa, of course).
2. I don't need the qwerty, but that doesn't mean that TyTN II isn't for me. Previously I have owned the Magician + a few MS smartphones and latest the Mio A701, so WM is by no means new to me. A few months back I got the feeling that it was time to replace the A701 and with TyTN II nowhere in sight, really I could see no WM device being a serious competition to the N95. So I got the Nokia, my first mobile of that brand for about 5 years
So, with the TyTN II now in the hands of normal users, I decided to have a look at this site for info and unfortunately it looks like even TyTN II can't compete evenly with the N95 on all points. All is not lost, though, if the compression algorithm is updated to something less destructive. I do believe the cam hardware of TyTN II is better than the current software, which can only be a positive thing. So HTC, bring on the first firmware update, please

difference with Hermes model

Hi,
At work, we have about 15 Hermes (or SPV M3100) devices.
they are great and especially when we think about flashing them and working with application on it.
I was thinking to buy a TyTN II for my personal use, however as i do not know it so well (except was is on HTC web page), i would like to hear your experiences ?
if someone had also Hermes model before, it could be great to know comparison.
thx.
A.

If you are looking for a business device and don't want a PSP or DVD player in a phone...
Then this is the one...

ok, i've read those articles...
seems to be bad for HTC.
ok anyway i will not watch a movie on this PDA.
max, i will only read/write emails, use it as GPS tool, develop some applications, and for sure reflash ROM...
to take pictures or to use it for video conference is not the purpose...
but is it so bad for picture ?
i mean comparing to Hermes pda ?
thx.

the Camera is brilliant outdoors and in bright light. But low level lighting causes horribly low FPS, although saying that, if you take pictures in low level lighting, they are still quite clear, it's just difficult to take them becuase of the crap FPS on the viewfinder.

and what about the new WM7 ?
will it support it ?

I would imagine at some point one of the ROM chefs will bring out a WM7 ROM. They did with WM6 for the WM5 devices, but I have no idea how long that would be, or even if it would be possible.
From the write-ups I've seen, yes people go off about the video drivers, but those that use it for the purposes you (and I) want it for and have upgraded from the Hermes like the device. It has more memory and built in GPS. I came from the HTC Universal (XDA Exec, Orange never released a version I don't think) which is from the same era as the Hermes and the Tytn II is as good or better. I don't think you will regret the upgrade, but it's your money. PS it will play video's if you re-encode them to a smaller size / lower bitrate.

Very low camerda quality

Hi guys
the camera quality of this phone is terrible, the image are always affected by blurry effects and low details and much noise.
Is it normal ?
There's a FIX for this ?
SW or HW issue ?
Thank U

No fix for now...
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When I had my Lg p990 I was also trying to investigate the reason of the bad camera quality.
Then I read somewhere: Better have a goo quality camera with lesser MP then have a ****ty quality camera with higher MP.
My Nokia N95 8GB with 5 MP took better photos vs LG o2x P990 8 MP.
Another deal-breaker, I was actually thinking in buying p880.....
Thank you for saving me

We're relying on LG to fix this one.
By the sound of things it's a good camera that has been badly configured.
Ksekhar has done all that he can here, but the frustration got the better of him and he's abandoned the device.
Can't say I blame him.

Can't a third party camera app fix this?

I think that only changing lenses
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Bad bad news
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Guys, what do you expect? There is a reason why this phone is cheaper than the competition...

chalid said:
Guys, what do you expect? There is a reason why this phone is cheaper than the competition...
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..yes. It doesn't have overly advertised and expensive bloatware on it that drains the battery in a day no matter what you do. Never mind force you to use some proprietary solution to transfer any files onto it, while making it impossible to use external storage media
The camera default settings just aren't calibrated very well. If you turn down the exposure time so the "correction" algorithms don't try to mesh two completely different pictures, it's no worse or better than any other camera with a plastic lens.
Seriously, though -- how much do you guys think the camera modules in these phones actually cost? :laugh:

It's not just bad calibration - its bad hardware. I attached sample shots of my old galaxy s2 and the lg optimus 4x hd.
As you can see, the galaxy s2 image is MUCH sharper and clearer - especially at the edges and the color reproduction is far better as well. That's not just bad calibration ...
no cameramod:
cameramod v4:
cameramod v5:
samsung galaxy s2:

But pretty sure the iso speed is the same on all those pictures.. If you try with the other presets, some custom fiddling, or just use the snap-function while filming -- you won't get the same blur in the picture.
So.. conclusion: the profiles probably would have worked perfectly fine on a super-steady hand, a tripod, and perhaps also in a world where light travels at the speed of sound or so.
(btw, not making the point that the camera is awesome. Just saying that you're not going to take very good pictures with a camera like this no matter what. It is, however, possible to take reasonably good mobile phone pictures - on this camera, just like any other mobile phone camera.)

UIQrules said:
But pretty sure the iso speed is the same on all those pictures.. If you try with the other presets, some custom fiddling, or just use the snap-function while filming -- you won't get the same blur in the picture.
So.. conclusion: the profiles probably would have worked perfectly fine on a super-steady hand, a tripod, and perhaps also in a world where light travels at the speed of sound or so.
(btw, not making the point that the camera is awesome. Just saying that you're not going to take very good pictures with a camera like this no matter what. It is, however, possible to take reasonably good mobile phone pictures - on this camera, just like any other mobile phone camera.)
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@UIQrules: Actually I leant onto something when I took those picture - and I took 20 or so on the LG and chose the best. There is no way you can get the same results like with the Galaxy S2. There is better hardware in use with the Samsung phone. It has nothing to do with software configuration.
Acutally I think the Galaxy S2 pictures are pretty awesome - even by a compact camera point of view. The LG is fine for me, because I don't need the camera very often, but I can see why someone would change for another phone, because of all those high-end smartphones out there, the Optimus 4X probably takes the worst pictures.

*nods* agree with that.
But yeah, noticed the same thing. As steady as possible, and still getting the weird blur, even at close range and perfect lighting. Then I took a few "speed" shots, at the same resolution, and it went away. So I don't know what it is, but I suspect it has something to do with the way the picture buffers are used. Amazing that it would go through qa, of course, no doubt about that. It is, like you say, something you notice right away.

[Q] The camera is good?

I have been looking at the camera, he actually and ordinary card machine than what outstanding? Easy to use? The best a few proofs, give me have a look.

Awsome camera go into the main general thread there is a best pics thread with some good pics . Ive just updated it so it should be near the top
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What I generally tell people who ask me that very same question, is this, admittedly there are cheaper cameras that produce a better image quality, that's not to say the photos are rubbish, I just know that you could spend considerably less for the same or equal image quality.
You're paying a premium for what it is, as there is only one other device like it on the market right now (more are on the way) if you buy this camera, you're definitely buying it as a WANT, not a NEED and probably succumbing to the need to have the latest and greatest tech.
The functionality you get over a standard point-and-shoot (PaS) is definitely the key thing here, I've not plugged this thing in to a computer to transfer images one, it's all done over the air.
I will go out, take whatever photos and by the time I've got home, they are already waiting for me to view, whether that's on Google+ via it's auto upload feature, or the full size images that have been synced through to my machines via dropbox. The ability to instantly share those photos using any method available to the Android platform is another massive bonus, as well as all the editing apps available on the platform too.
The lens on the camera gives ample range and in some cases greater than other, normal, cameras out there and the pre defined "Smart Settings" work very well, as well as the manual settings which for me, is a very welcomed feature.
The remote viewfinder and the ability to control the camera from your phone is an excellent feature, doing group shots, with yourself in the group is now an easy thing to do, without the hassle of setting a timer and running back etc...
One problem I have found with the camera, which will get better with upcoming software updates I believe, is the occasional lag, not just in the camera app but the while device and it's no where near as quick to load from a cold boot.
Overall it's a great device, the build quality is good and all the features you get from having the Android OS bolted on is great. But only you can decide whether you think it's worth shelling out the money they're asking for it and if not now, maybe when the price drops you might. And if your sole requirement is to have the best image quality possible and nothing else, then there are other cameras in the same price bracket that yield better results.
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[Q] Windows Phone for the first time.Need help!

Ok,so I am thinking about getting a WP8 device,and I mean on htc 8s.It looks like a nice device,for a nice price,but I need to know something about WP8.Yeah forgot to mention that I am currently an Android user,owning a Sony Xperia S,but honestly not impressed,not impressed at all.So I need someone who maybe knows how is it to transfer from Android to WP,what are main advantages and disadvantages od WP,maybe someone,who could compare it with Android,could be useful.Anyway,please give me your opinions,thanks in advance

Android does have a larger app base, and is a little more customizable. With android you can run a custom ROM, not so on WP. But I think that WP owns Android in all other areas, and this is coming from an Android ROM developer. Windows Phone 8 is amazing, has some awesome features in Messaging, and live tiles ROCK! The app base will come, and with that I honestly believe that WP has a chance to take over the marketplace.
What are some specifics you're looking for?
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I would suggest to avoid HTC 8s in any case. The reason is only 4 gigs of phone memory. Yeah, it has an SD card, but the management of it in WP is not so good. U can use it only to storage pics and videos from the camera. When WP installed, u have around 1.5 GB free on the phone, which isn't wnough 4 anything.
If u need navigation, wan't to have a decent music collection on ur phone, and want to have some apps and games, u need a phone with at least 16 GB.

You can store Music on the SD Card as well if it's in the form of regular Music files. All App data (and that includes Music downloaded through Spotify, etc.) will reside in the internal Memory.
That being said: I still believe the others are correct in that the 4GB of Memory are a big Problem with the 8S. There is a reason why even the cheapest Nokia Lumia device (the just anounce Lumia 520) has 8GB of storage.

StevieBallz said:
You can store Music on the SD Card as well if it's in the form of regular Music files. All App data (and that includes Music downloaded through Spotify, etc.) will reside in the internal Memory.
That being said: I still believe the others are correct in that the 4GB of Memory are a big Problem with the 8S. There is a reason why even the cheapest Nokia Lumia device (the just anounce Lumia 520) has 8GB of storage.
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So you guys are saying that i can't store music on sd Card?If so i don't want htc I want something with a memory,I mean I already have the 16 gb sd Card if that can't help than nothing from htc....

As I said already: it depends on the source of the Music. If it's Spotify or something similar the SD-Card won't help you. If it's MP3s you're copying from your PC you can use the SD Card for that.

Also worth mentioning is that the 8S has only 512 MB of RAM which limit`s running some games like Asphalt 7.Too bad for such a new phone.

I would avoid any HTC Windows phone, Nokia is the only company investing time and money into the WP8 ecosystem and you will really not enjoy your experience without their exclusives.
If you use your phone for work I would stick to an android phone, my lumia 920 is basically pointless for me to use for anything work related. PDF management is poor and often times sending a pdf is impossible. Also, if you need to digitally sign emails or use VPN's those features don't exist in Windows phone.
On a personal use level there are pros and cons to Windows phone, the OS is beautiful, people like it and when I hand my phone to friends or family they really are impressed with the overall look and feel of the home screen. The camera on my 920 is great, people had some complaints initially but it truly is the best camera available in a modern smartphone. The video recording is amazing as well and really lets the OIS shine.
This is all great except there are some huge flaws in the OS as well, with the greatest camera comes the omission of the worlds largest image based social network (yeah instagram). People will tell you that it's fine because you can apply filters with creative studio (which works fine) but instagram is no about filters, it's about users.
There is also no native or third party way to edit videos, which again seems to be a big shortcoming on a device with such an amazing camera.
There are other things in the OS that are bothersome, you can't set a custom toe for notifications (only the ringer). A lot of people want separate volume controls for media ringer and calls but this doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
There is just a lot to be desired out of the OS functionally and I think the biggest issue is that the API's available to devs are restrictive and MS isn't really concerned with improving the experience. If i had it to do again I would have bought a note 2 instead of my lumia simply because the camera isn't good enough to justify the shortcomings of the OS and how great is a primo camera when nobody sees your photos.

tonyeltigre said:
I would avoid any HTC Windows phone, Nokia is the only company investing time and money into the WP8 ecosystem and you will really not enjoy your experience without their exclusives.
If you use your phone for work I would stick to an android phone, my lumia 920 is basically pointless for me to use for anything work related. PDF management is poor and often times sending a pdf is impossible. Also, if you need to digitally sign emails or use VPN's those features don't exist in Windows phone.
On a personal use level there are pros and cons to Windows phone, the OS is beautiful, people like it and when I hand my phone to friends or family they really are impressed with the overall look and feel of the home screen. The camera on my 920 is great, people had some complaints initially but it truly is the best camera available in a modern smartphone. The video recording is amazing as well and really lets the OIS shine.
This is all great except there are some huge flaws in the OS as well, with the greatest camera comes the omission of the worlds largest image based social network (yeah instagram). People will tell you that it's fine because you can apply filters with creative studio (which works fine) but instagram is no about filters, it's about users.
There is also no native or third party way to edit videos, which again seems to be a big shortcoming on a device with such an amazing camera.
There are other things in the OS that are bothersome, you can't set a custom toe for notifications (only the ringer). A lot of people want separate volume controls for media ringer and calls but this doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
There is just a lot to be desired out of the OS functionally and I think the biggest issue is that the API's available to devs are restrictive and MS isn't really concerned with improving the experience. If i had it to do again I would have bought a note 2 instead of my lumia simply because the camera isn't good enough to justify the shortcomings of the OS and how great is a primo camera when nobody sees your photos.
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Same here got the L920 and i hate it. Can´t use it for the work and the OS is nothing special like i thought. So i recommend you to swap to BB or stick by android.
If u are living in Germany, i am selling my Lumia 920 .