Upgraded my Qtek9090 with the latest ROM from www.qtek.nu and noticed all BT files were up to v. 3500.
Restored the full ActiveSync backup to get my apps etc back and now I have a mixture of 2400 and 3500 BT system files.
I had hoped important system files were protected from being overwritten by older ones but obviously not... Just wondering what other files got downgraded as well...
Any idea how to upgrade ROM _and_ keep installed user applications in an easy way?
when one makes an upgrade, you should not restore, but inserting all the applications again again, if it doesn't spend that...
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Does anyone in here know if I can safeley reload my Sprite Back-Up after a ROM Upgrade without screwing-up details of the ROM-Upgrade ?
I mean: If I understand this right, after Booting parts of the ROM ar loaded into the RAM, which could be overwritten.
Or am I totally off here ?
After a rom upgrade, you should never restore a complete backup, regardless of the backup program you use. With sprite, it is easy to do a restore of individual databases (appointments, contacts, email, sms etc), as well as the document folder. The other option is to use the "device upgarde" functionality of Sprite Backup, but for that to work, you will need to make an image of the machine with the new rom I believe, and without anything installed. (but for that you need to check the manual).
You should never restore a full backup, since you will be restoring parts of the old ROM in the process.
I only use Sprite backup as a fall-back in case of a problem with a Rom update.
Even if you select the "allow upgrades" option, it can overwrite some of the data that you have just changed in the upgrade.
I have loaded all of my apps and data that I must retain on a memory card and I just reload them from it.
Hope this helps........Later
quote="jofeuerstein" ]Does anyone in here know if I can safeley reload my Sprite Back-Up after a ROM Upgrade without screwing-up details of the ROM-Upgrade ?
I mean: If I understand this right, after Booting parts of the ROM ar loaded into the RAM, which could be overwritten.
Or am I totally off here ?[/quote]
Here is how I see it: Any file that is not ROM-based will be pulled by Sprite Backup.
Even though a hard-reset will reload all the Extended ROM CAB files, they are still in the Storage/Program Memory and can still be replaced, deleted, etc. They are supplemental to the ROM files from the CE ROM core.
A good experience is when I upgraded to Build 3900 on my Extended ROM and restored a Sprite Backup file afterwards and noticed it went back to 3500. The BT*.* files in the Windows directory were backed up, and thus restored, overwriting the work done by the Extended ROM load.
The best thing to do is "move along" your backup file with your upgrades.
If you decide to recook your Extended ROM, upgrade CAB files or builds, then keep that upgrade CAB file handy to run again. I would highly recommend using a program such as OCP Software's WinCE CAB Manager to look into the CAB files you are replacing to see what files and registry entries get directly affected.
Bottom line method for me is 1. backup your PPC, 2. update the Extended ROM, 3. hard-reset, 4. restore the PPC, 5. reapply any new CABs from the Extended ROM, 5. rebackup the PPC.
By the way, the Upgrade works especially well when you have a new CE ROM that has new ROM files, such as Windows Media Player 10 (if and when it comes out). According to the instructions on Sprite's site, you run the Upgrade utility on the clean (hard-reset) image with the OLD ROM, perform the upgrade, then restore your backup WITH the Upgrade Data.
Thank you. Sounds very logical. A complicated process, but it beats reconfiguring the MDA after an Update by several hours ...
Good that all the people who envy us for our "MDAIII" don't know how much time we waste getting these machines to work ....
hdbueller said:
I have loaded all of my apps and data that I must retain on a memory card and I just reload them from it.
Hope this helps......
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you mean copy the "program files" folder to SD-card and the load it back ? or how :?:
You can copy all the CAB files from the C:\Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync folder onto the SD card for safekeeping, or look for a program called CabBackup, which has been proven useful in many a situation.
ok guys i have a lil problem and i hope you'll help me to solve it...
recently ive upgraded my 9090 to wm5 and ive made a backup using sprite software... however im not able to force that piece of software to restore my inbox and contacts on the new system... i have a fresh backup, made using wm2003 xBackup software and here goes the question...
is it possible to restore xBackup's backup file on wm5 (helmi 1.3.2)?
(the file is called CompactFlashBackUpPim)
No, you can't do it. The different versions of the OS store the data differently. You need to go back to 2003, activesync your contacts etc to your PC, upgade, then re-sync. I think the upgrade guide mentions this.
I always keep mine sync'ed anyway, so doing an upgrade is a very quick process. I also keep cabs on the SD card so I can quickly install everything.
and is it a way to see the data like appointments or contacts from that backup file?
I plan to update the OS of my TyTN II from WM6.0 to 6.1.
I regularly back-up my files with Sprite Back-up.
My question is, will there be any issues (incompatibility etc) with restoring my back-up files to the new OS?
On that note, will the programs I used to have in WM6.0 (e.g. TCPMP, TouchFlo cube from XDA forums etc) be still compatible with WM6.1? Will I be able to re-install them without issues?
TIA
rigel
Only if you have a new enough version of Sprite Back-up
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I plan to update the OS of my TyTN II from WM6.0 to 6.1.
I regularly back-up my files with Sprite Back-up.
My question is, will there be any issues (incompatibility etc) with restoring my back-up files to the new OS?
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There will be issues unless you get (possibly at cost) a new enough version of Sprite backup. The freebie version included on the HTC CDROM may complain if you try this and only handles restores and backups within the same OS. Someone posted about exactly this issue here on 23/7.... will search for that thread.
***Edit*** Here is that thread but read what it mentions about cross OS back-ups and restores not working with everything (except things like personal folders, contacts etc).
Problem after installing WM6.1
Personally when ever I upgrade an OS on any device I always reinstall software from scratch and check the software apps compatibility with the new OS before doing so at the software publishers website.
***Edit 2*** Changed subject and content to reflect possibly not the very latest version still being OK. Latest post after this one (to check manual) is good advice.
I have Sprite 6 and it is fully compatible with WM 6.1. If you have Sprite WM2005 I THINK you can still do a back up and restore but need to go through a process of getting an upgrade file first. IIRC the Sprite User Guide details the process under 'Advanced Mode'. If not, the Sprite site has it under their FAQs re WM2005.
Hi!
May I join in ?
has anyone discovered any other issues?
I use CE-Star, and check email via an Exchange Server.
Is ugrading to 6.1 really beneficial ?
Back to my searching...
ofiaich
Now that I've thought about it...
Much thanks Flying Kiwi
After thinking about it, and reading that other thread, I'm thinking I don't really need the Sprite backup. I mean, the really important stuff (contacts, e-mail, tasks/schedules/calendar) are already in my laptop, and I could just do a sync after I upgrade to 6.1, right?
Come to think of it, what other stuff exactly is in the Sprite backup file? All the other stuff like music, pictures and whatnot are in my memory card. Will 6.1 recoginse all those files in my microSD? Or do I have to sync all my music from WMP all over again?
I don't mind having to re-install all the other applications. I'm also just wondering if they would also be compatible with 6.1.
Pardon the "amatureish" questions. I'm all new at this
Flying Kiwi said:
There will be issues unless you get (possibly at cost) a new enough version of Sprite backup. The freebie version included on the HTC CDROM may complain if you try this and only handles restores and backups within the same OS. Someone posted about exactly this issue here on 23/7.... will search for that thread.
***Edit*** Here is that thread but read what it mentions about cross OS back-ups and restores not working with everything (except things like personal folders, contacts etc).
Problem after installing WM6.1
Personally when ever I upgrade an OS on any device I always reinstall software from scratch and check the software apps compatibility with the new OS before doing so at the software publishers website.
***Edit 2*** Changed subject and content to reflect possibly not the very latest version still being OK. Latest post after this one (to check manual) is good advice.
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I'm on a mission to update my ROM, and I've been reading/thinking about it, and I have come to the following conclusions.. Hopefully if I'm wrong on any of them, someone can say so..
I'll backup my SMS and PIM data. PIM data should sync back over, SMS will not, so I'll need to restore that.
Update HardSPL. I don't know what version I have, but I'll put the latest suggested for WM 6.1 (3.56 I believe)
I'll take Sprite Pro, and download a copy of my stock ROM and Radio and put those three files on my SD card, so if all else fails, I can just go right back the way I was. (Right??)
Write down all of my *must have* apps, make sure I have their cabs and put them and licensing info on my SD card for easy reinstall. And what ones I can save settings on or write down the settings, do that so I have it.
Hard reset, install new ROM (I think I'm going with ROMEOS) and Radio (1.65.20.xx I think it was I decided on for GPS, battery etc), hard reset again.
Tilt specific settings will go away, but there's a thread on that by redbandana that's great. So restore some cabs there to fix that back.
Install my minmum required apps and reconfigure them, make sure it's all working, configured, get synced back up with Outlook, etc.. Once that's done, make a backup with Sprite Pro.
Reinstall auxillary stuff, but I'm going to try (my best!!) to minimize this, as it makes a mess and seems to cause problems. Right now my Tilt has no notifications (not Opera related), no LEDs (thus TT7 doesn't work), and some general weirdness sometimes.
Hopefully by doing this I'll have two complete setups.. the WM6.1 setup installed and backed up on the SD card. Also my current WM6.0 setup that I could return to by hard reset, install 6.0 ROM and radio and run backup file if all else fails.
So in the end, I could swap between my current WM6.0 and new WM6.1 without a lot of hassle if I needed to, but hopefully I won't need to.
Hope this isn't considered thread crapping, but seems relevant to most people migrating to 6.1 and are unsure about the process (as I am stll myself)
hi,
So i got the phone TODAY and she is gorgeous!
Now, This is what I see on the htc download page:
ROM version: 1.93.720.2 WWE
ROM date: 08/13/08
Radio Version : 52.29.25.12G_1.00.25.07
And on my diamond, under device info:
ROM Version: 1.93.720.2 WWE (YES this is what it says, I bought the phone today!)
ROM Date: 08/07/08
Radio version 1.00.25.07
Protocol version, 52.29.25.12G
I have the Indian version, NO 3G, NO front cam...only triband and EDGE.
Do I have to update my ROM?
Overall I dont really feel any sluggishness, except for the fact that it takes quite a while to start up!!
It also says all software and files will be deleted from the phone. Now, is it going to format my storage AND phone memory?
And (i'm sorry if this sounds silly) my phone will come back alive with all the apps that it originally had right?, I mean the apps that COME WITH THE PHONE, like YouTube, Notes etc, there will be something like a factory reset correct?
Thanks so much
There's no need to update when they're the same version number. FYI when comparing ROM versions, the 3rd set of numbers is only a region code. So you & I (see sig) have the same ROM version, just made for different regions.
As for your other questions, a ROM update (or hard reset) only formats the main memory. The 4GB internal storage is left alone.
After a hard reset, the phone is restored with all the apps that came with your current ROM. In your case, that would be the ones it originally came with. Different ROMs might come with different apps though. The HTC stock ROMs should for the most part have all the same apps (although there was some variation from the 1.3x to 1.93). If you switch to a cooked ROM found in the forums, the apps included will be vastly different, and are usually spelled out clearly by the cook.
The point is, when upgrading a ROM, you should try to find a manifest so you can make sure it still includes the apps you're interested in. But you can usually find cabs for any that are missing.
Thank you GeckoDev, =)
Just wanted to make 110% sure before doing anything with my diamond.
Speaking of formating and apps, is there a way to create an image of the phone memory and internal storage, something like norton Ghost?
Look for SPB Backup or Sprite Backup, they work great on taking an image of your phone, have not tried to use it for Internal Storage since that is where you will need to save the backup.
What I usually do is use SPB Backup to make an image of the Diamond then connect my device as a disk to PC then make a folder on PC and backup the internal storage. Just an idea.
ah! Nice!! Exactly what I wanted!
Hi all,
Comeing from PC development, I would normally take an image of a system before overwriting with a new one. I'm interested in trying a new ROM, especially WM 6.5.
Is there a way to to an image dump of the Phone before I install a new ROM/OS?
Cheers
http://www.spritesoftware.com/products/sprite-backup-htc-special
It'll cost you $20 but it's probably worth it.
What do you want to backup?
Your current ROM (OS) or your current installed applications?
To back up the ROM, you need to dump your ROM, have it converted to *nbh file. Only then you can restore the original ROM.
To back up your applications I use Sprite Backup, the same that andyturner proposed.
BeeGee_Tokyo said:
What do you want to backup?
Your current ROM (OS) or your current installed applications?
To back up the ROM, you need to dump your ROM, have it converted to *nbh file. Only then you can restore the original ROM.
To back up your applications I use Sprite Backup, the same that andyturner proposed.
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Ah ha, now we come the first limit to my knowledge of such devices. Are not the ROM and installed apps one in the same? Can I not take an image of the whole phone system as a whole so I can get back to exactly where I was - i.e altered settings, reg tweaks, and installed apps etc - just like creating an image clone of a PC system (i.e. ghost etc)
swinster said:
Ah ha, now we come the first limit to my knowledge of such devices. Are not the ROM and installed apps one in the same? Can I not take an image of the whole phone system as a whole so I can get back to exactly where I was - i.e altered settings, reg tweaks, and installed apps etc - just like creating an image clone of a PC system (i.e. ghost etc)
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The OS is in (ROM) Flash memory, the applications are in RAM or on your memory card.
Backup programs like Sprite save only what is in RAM and/or on your memory card, not the OS which is in the Flash memory.
I do not know an application that is backing up both.