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help my imate pda2... my rom is 64... why?

I have bought a pda2 but there is a problem with flashRom size....In device information------>Hardware the flashRom size is 64Mb.....I don't know how it's possible...thanks for your help.
ps. I have read after the Italian version of imate website and i have uncovered that the Italian version has only 64 mb of rom. how it is possible?

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Are you Iranian?.....

The Alpine has 64MB reserved for the OS, Extended rom, radio stack, splash screen and so on which is updated using a PC.
64MB reserved for Storage which you can use to store data.
128MB split between program memory and memory storage, user adjustable.
What you are describing is the official size of the Storage which as standard shows up as less than 60MB by the time it is formatted.

xda 2i storage size only 0.11mb

Hi ppl
i have a problem with my unit showing only 0.11mb storage available
under device info->Hardware
rom ver 1.11.00 WWE
radio ver 1.00.00
protocol ver 1337.39
ExtRom Ver (just blank)
i was running extRom Unlock earlier which was really a stupid thing to do
appreciate any help anyone could suggest to fix this
thanks

Have you reflashed your device with the ROM image from your provider or the original Qtek ROM?
But I think you've totally damaged your Storage! Bad but true!

does it mean it's gone....& no other way of recovering it
all i did was running the ExtROM unlocker & unhide
& DOC repartitioning tool
can anyone tell me what is the standard
storage like for XDA 2i
currently i can see tot main memory 121.8 mb
which split into
program memory 50.8mb &
storage memory 71.0mb
then i have storage card (which depend on SD card size)
& storage of 0.1 mb only (which i think should be around 50 ++mb)
thanks

storage fixed
hmm finally i've fixed it...
what actually happen is the DOC partition tool
got me fooled....by default it partition only 128kb of my ROM
that's why i only got 0.11mb storage space
by just guessing the actuall size i've tried from 128 mb & going down
finally i got ~60 mb
thanks for the input.....yeah

ROM and RAM size? Mine is 128 & 128 !

How much ROM and RAM in your Kaiser?
From the product description:
http://tytnseries.htc.com/htctytn2.html
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?Product=9072E974-D03D-4C75-AA14-8E8CCC0F4D69&Category=GROUP1
All says: 256MB ROM, 128MB RAM
Why mine is only about 128MB ROM and 128MB RAM (about) ????
Mine:
Storage
Total: 133.79 MB
In use: 7.40 MB
Free: 126.38 MB
Program
Total: 101.38 MB
In use: 37.29 MB
Free: 64.09 MB

gogol said:
How much ROM and RAM in your Kaiser?
From the product description:
http://tytnseries.htc.com/htctytn2.html
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?Product=9072E974-D03D-4C75-AA14-8E8CCC0F4D69&Category=GROUP1
All says: 256MB ROM, 128MB RAM
Why mine is only about 128MB ROM and 128MB RAM (about) ????
Mine:
Storage
Total: 133.79 MB
In use: 7.40 MB
Free: 126.38 MB
Program
Total: 101.38 MB
In use: 37.29 MB
Free: 64.09 MB
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What does your Device Information window show?
Go to Start>Settings>Device Information>Hardware
I think Storage memory is only showing you ROM storage available and not the total ROM size.

sherpa said:
What does your Device Information window show?
Go to Start>Settings>Device Information>Hardware
I think Storage memory is only showing you ROM storage available and not the total ROM size.
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Yep, mine says RAM size: 128 MB, Flash size: 256 MB - as advertised

Weird, in the Device Information, it said 256MB ROM (Flash) and 128MB RAM.
If the "Memory" only shows the one that is FREE ... why it also display "In use"?
Anyone can explain?
sherpa said:
What does your Device Information window show?
Go to Start>Settings>Device Information>Hardware
I think Storage memory is only showing you ROM storage available and not the total ROM size.
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Easy. 128Mb of RAM speaks for itself. Of the 256Mb of flash however, 128Mb contains the operating system, the other 128Mb are available to the end user to install programs and add documents. When flashing any given device, the available flashrom is first filled up with the OS, after which a second amount is allocated to the extended rom area, and finally the rest is made available to the end user.
So rest assured, you DO have 256Mb Flashrom, you're just not going to get all of it

Wiz said:
Easy. 128Mb of RAM speaks for itself. Of the 256Mb of flash however, 128Mb contains the operating system, the other 128Mb are available to the end user to install programs and add documents. When flashing any given device, the available flashrom is first filled up with the OS, after which a second amount is allocated to the extended rom area, and finally the rest is made available to the end user.
So rest assured, you DO have 256Mb Flashrom, you're just not going to get all of it
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And when the good chefs here develop custom lite ROMs then you will be able to get some of it back.

sherpa said:
And when the good chefs here develop custom lite ROMs then you will be able to get some of it back.
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Oh yeah , cant wait to put mine on a diet LOL

How much RAM is in your diamond??

Hi guys,
I have a Diamond from Orange UK.
As i was looking at the "Device information" I noticed that is showing only
128MB RAM - I was aware this device had 192MB of RAM
Flash Size: 256MB
Internal storage: 382.48MB
So why is the ram 128MB, its just mine or is it a orange thing..
Please comment you ram size Orange or NOT.
I have 1.93.831.1 HK WWE ROM
Radio and protocal from ROM
HardSPL 1.24 by jocky
Security and SIM and CID unlocked.
Could it be the HardSPL or ROM is causeing the RAM sortage.
Thanks for you time..
EDIT: just done a hard reset and still the same 128MB RAM - i will flash it to 1.93 eruo see if that helps, will update post.
EDIT 2: Updated the ROM to 1.93 EU Sitll showed 128MB RAM...
However issue was resolved when i flashed jockys 1.34 HardSPL now shows 192MB.
So anyone using Jockeys 1.24 HardSpl, Check you have the correct amount of ram ( its a real shame because i otherwise liked the 1.24 HSPL)
Anyway please comment on your device:

its not missing,
I got t mobile version
with stock spl its 192mb
HardSPL 1.24 by jocky its 128mb
OliNex hard spl its back to 192mb
just not being reported correctly

but is it only a mistake when is read from device or there is a 128 MB only?

I'm at stock ROM and it shows 192mb for me, tho the Internal storage shows only 3775.05mb but I guess that's pretty normal, it was not totally accurate on my previous phone's SD card.

Yes, should be normally 3.815 MB. Mine only shows 3.768 MB but maybe the rest is for the file system?!
@ stan40: see also this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402747 that might be an explanation why only 128mb are shown.

Where is all the memory?

Hello all,
I have the Rogers Wireless HTC Touch Diamond, which is advertised with 192 MB RAM, 256 MB ROM and 4 GB internal storage.
When viewing the memory page via Settings-->System (or the drop down menu on the Today screen), it shows total storage memory to be 91.8 MB and total program memory to be 115.0 MB. This doesn't add up to either of the amounts of advertised memory.
I was curious if anyone knows which portion of the memory this information represents - i.e. the RAM or ROM - and where you can find the usage information of the other. I understand the basic concept of RAM vs. ROM, but neither of these figures add up to the advertised 192 MB RAM or 256 MB ROM.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Regards,

Rom
All your data is stored in flash and the flash is not erased if your battery runs flat.
This is called persistent storage.
Flash space in the Pocket PC is split between storage and ROM.
The amount of data or programs you install is limited by the amount of free storage (flash) on your device.
Storage in flash is not compressed.
Due to this design, programs that are installed / stored in flash are copied to RAM to be executed - they occupy twice the space.
The directory of data stored in the boot ROM is merged with the storage flash so the user sees the file system as one.
If a file in the boot ROM is replaced by a file in storage flash the storage flash file is used.
RAM
RAM is dedicated to running programs.
If you attempt to run multiple programs that are "hogs", they may not run or the operating system may close some of them.
The memory management for programs flushes pages of programs that are no longer needed, thus optimizing the use of RAM in the system for other programs to execute.
RAM Cache for Flash Storage
A portion of the RAM is used as a write cache to increase the performance of the mobile device when writing to the flash.
This RAM cache is fixed in size by the OEM and the RAM is not usable for any other purpose.
So before performing a soft reset or removing the battery you must turn the unit off and wait 5-10 seconds. If you fail to do this you may corrupt your internal flash storage.
Condensed by mikechannon from Windows Mobile 5.0 Memory Management Op cit: Chris De Herrera
Mike

Thanks for the reply, Mike; that's some really good info. However, I still don't understand why my memory page is only accounting for 92 MB (storage) + 115 MB (program) when there's supposed to be 192 MB + 256 MB (as listed in the Diamond specs). Where's the balance? I've attached an image for clarification.
Any insight into this would be much appreciated.
Regards,

Out of the 192MB ram (program), 64MB is dedicated GPU (video) memory. So in fact usable ram is around 128mb.
Out of the 256MB Rom, usually about 80-100mb can be attributed to the ROM image (firmware) of the phone and especially since you're is branded (rogers), there are pre-installed goodies (ya right) that are taking up your space as well.
For your reference my phone shows the following:
Storage
Total: 105.17mb
In Use: 82.54mb
Free: 22.63mb
Program:
Total 107.02mb
In use: 76.67MB
Free: 30.35MB
Keep in mind that i'm on a custom ROM so the numbers will be a little off right off the bat.

Perfect! That's the info I was after. I had a feeling the 'missing' memory was attributed to something like this, but now it's all cleared up.
Thanks again.