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I want to keep all the O2 stuffs intact, is it possible to update only the CE and Radio ROM but not the extended ROM? I know the procedures I think, and I just need to delete ms_.nbf before running BaUpgradeUt? Will my O2 extended ROM stays intact this way?
How much better is 1.06.2 Radio ROM better than 1.02? Is it worth the update?
And after the update, I should just restore DATA but not full restore right?? Also, do I have to disable ActiveSyn before the update? If so, how?
Sorry about so many questions
Think ur ext rom will be blank this way
CL55
My answer to your question would be
Unhide the extened rom as is
unlock extenedrom as is now
make a copy of it as in on your desktop
do the normal upgrade
unlock/unhide the new extended rom
delete the content
copy from the destop your old extenedrom
lock/hide the exteneded rom again
do a cold reset.
this will boot the device, reinstall the os and radio and install the old extenedrom.
Do I think that that is a good idea, NO!! but that is what you want to do.
You need to undersatnd that some of the stuff on extened rom is for the new upgrade such as the patches.
So ... not that you asked ... I think what you want to do is swap only some of the files. but do you know which ones?
Read the bit on unllocking the Imate extenede rom
Read the bit about changing boot imaages.
Think about what you realy wont to do and have fun.
pleun, says:
Think ur ext rom will be blank this way
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but it's not true. I've done that and your Extended ROM is not deleted
so:
1. You chose the ROM you want to use it (and you use xda3nbftool.exe if the ROM comes from another operator than yours)
2. Before launching the ROM installer "BaUpgradeUt.exe", you remove the Extended ROM package which is call "ms_.nbf"
and you update your ROM normally
Only the CE ROM and Radio will be upgraded. Your Blue Angel will keep your old Extended ROM.
And remember: If the ROM you have chosen comes in a package like BA_WWE_BelDT_12200_557_10602_SHIP.exe, you can open the ifile with WinRAR to extract its contents.
Simple solutions for a simple world!
ArtZ
True, only Qestion I have is why did I not Know that before?
Yup its simple and it works.
Now a real qestion for you based on you own knowleage.
Is there any way to add a Romkitchen Exteneded rom to the upgrade?
We seem to have know tools for this er2003edit does not work for me on the blueangle.
I have not been able to find any way of extracting splash screens but am able to replacing then (which is great but I dont have the original splashes)
Things are not only you know, your ways are not always the best.
Ok... I want to upgrade my PDA2k, but am a bit on the chicken side. Has anyone created or cooked a COMPLETE ROM for the PDA2k that they can post a download link to?
I can do the flash myself, but don't know how to cook a ROM and don't have the tools. I would appreciate any help I can get.
Thanks!
ROM Upgrade
Read this site. It's all here.
This FTP site has the ROM for Blue Angel. I used this one to upgrade my PDA2K. Works much better than the released version. Only problem is with sound after using the built in MS PocketPC CLOSE command; just don't use it, use another program like "Launcher" that has it's own CLOSE command which does not cause the problem.
Here is the FTP link: ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/BlueAngel_Roms/BA_1.40_radio_1.20_untested_extrom/
ChrisSpera,
Can you post a reply once you do the upgrade? I'd like to do it too, but I'm not as sure as you are on what to do. I also have a PDA2K from the US and would like to know how it goes.
Thanks,
Tom
Well, I got a little help from one of the patrons of this site, and I did get my PDA2k flashed with the 1.40 ROM, 1.12 Radio, and am working with a somewhat baked extended ROM. I've actually been tweaking it most of the day.
If you're using Cingular with your PDA2k, make certain that you grab the Cingular settings file from Club i-mate. You'll need those, as the settings in the SX66 ROM I used aren't quite right, though they work. Applications that automatically dial out via GPRS will not function correctly with the Connection Settings in that ROM. I am working with the guy that helped me to test the fixed connection settings, and when they are fixed, I'll let you know.
If you're using T-Mo, then make sure you get THOSE settings from Club i-mate and use those instead.
All is good, though! It works! I did have one hiccough, though; as my PC lost connection with the device BEFORE any flashing started. I bounced the box, leaving the device in the cradle, and was able to pick it back up from the beginning without any problems.
The device seems snappier. It connects to the PC faster, and boots faster. Pretty cool all told!
Thanks for the feedback! I hate to say this but I already started. It's been pretty slow in the office today, so I said...what the hell...and went for it. Wish I knew about the tmobile thing though. I'm just finishing the upgrade.
Where do I put the tmo information? Or, what do I do with it?
Tom
Chris,
What version is your extended ROM? Mine is 1.22.162 WWE
BTW, mine had the same problem with losing the connection. It's happened twice now. I updated my radio and the same thing happened. Strange.
Tom
I am using the SX66 1.40.110 (i think) version of the extended ROM.
If you go to the support area on club imate, and click on the Operator settings link in the support downloads area, you should be able to find a download link for a CAB that installs T-Mo connection settings. download it and use it to create your connections settings on your device.
I downloaded it and installed it. Didn't find it real helpful. I still had to go through everything to get mms and email setup. Oh well. Thanks for the tip though.
I've had it up and running for the past 24 hours and while I think the OS works a bit better I can't see a huge improvement. The phone is more responsive though.
Any notes on changes would be helpful. I did notice that the BT connects had a strenght signal now, which I find really helpful.
Question: Was this upgrade supposed to do anything to the extended ROM? Because the version is the same as before.
Thanks,
Tom
ChrisSpera said:
I am using the SX66 1.40.110 (i think) version of the extended ROM.
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I just comprehended your post. Sorry about repeating the question when you already answered. How, or why, should I upgrade the extended ROM? I take it the upgrade I just did did not put the upgraded files in the extended ROM?
Tom
The extended ROM, which is about 16MB in size holds the custom software that comes on the device. You don't have to upgrade it at all. You can leave it be if you're happy with the software that's there.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't the upgrade that was just performed by you and I install the new files into the ext rom automatically? Or, do I have to do it manually....copy the cabs from the laptop to the ext rom?
I've just been reading about cooking an ext rom and I'm going to give it a shot.
Tom
that depends on the files the update contained. Look for *.nbf files in the temp folder you launched the update from. What was in there? MS.nbf is the OS, radio.nbf is the phone and nk.nbf is the extended ROM.
I think I screwed something up. radio.nbf and nk.nbf were in the temp file but MS.nbf was not. Was it in yours? I believe I pulled the same file as you did from the link provided but there's no mention of it in there.
I also took a look at my extrom folder and none of the files that were listed in the link are in there nor loaded. I guess I'm getting things confused. Did you copy all the cabs into the extrom folder then run BAUpgradeut.exe? I just ran BAUpgradeUT.exe and thought they'd copy them over. I think I was wrong.
Tom
anybody know hoe to change BOOT splash image on WM5 ?????
Hmm, I tried the solution from Buzz - but haven't worked for me. Another chance would be "Promasters Autoinstaller". A small proggi, made by a german freak. All Ext. Rom Cab's from different providers are included, but I hadn't enouth space to install the whole cab files. I'll try it maybe today evening. There are the splash images from VF, O2, T-Mob etc. included, and you can change them with only one click.
Saisoku-R said:
Hmm, I tried the solution from Buzz - but haven't worked for me. Another chance would be "Promasters Autoinstaller". A small proggi, made by a german freak. All Ext. Rom Cab's from different providers are included, but I hadn't enouth space to install the whole cab files. I'll try it maybe today evening. There are the splash images from VF, O2, T-Mob etc. included, and you can change them with only one click.
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I've just tried this and it hasn't worked ethier.
ok :lol:
@Indra: No solution yet :lol:
fortunately the procedure from himalaya lower OS ver to wm5 is the same...maybe the old procedure of BA works...
xda2jojo said:
fortunately the procedure from himalaya lower OS ver to wm5 is the same...maybe the old procedure of BA works...
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So your saying to try it with a wm2003 splash screen for the angel, well i can give it a try, i think i skipped this one due all the commotion of this release 8)
I tried an tried it again. but nothing worked.
But the facts for me are now:
- Splash screen is not stored in the /my documents folder like wm2003
- External rom is only 128k, and not a couple of mb's
- Himalaya Splash screens are stored on the extended rom. they still have one.
- Jasjar Splash screen heard nobody complaining, and they have also a extended rom.
So i think i downgrade this weekend back to wm2003, create a extended rom of a few mb's
going back to wm2005, make my extended rom visible and try it again, i cannot figure out another way to do it, and if it not works,
wow, that's a lot of work dude, but maybe, just maybe, the procedure for the himalaya is the same with the BA, problem is, the BA has such a small extended, unless there is way to save my sms on my phone now, I don't even want to dare to downgrade at the moment (have alot of important messages), oh well, good luck then!
8)
Thanx.,
Think that this is the common way, the already used "made" screens for hima 1.60 and already tried it again, if you are reffering to /windows directory, it is not working for me. :evil:
What rests, anybody??
Still looking,
But anybody able to find a .nb file on his system?
I searched, but was not able to find something with splash or .nb on my system,Even not after i installed a screen,.
Where the hack supposes this to be stored, or whats the possible extention for it, or can we patch something with the bootloader to fix it? buzz? mamaich? anybody?
I think we are going to have a problem with this build of WM5 as far as the splash screen is concerned - looking through the boot code it seems as though the boot screen is generated programatically reather than from a bitmap in ANY memory area (Entirely generated in the CE ROM code area rather than referring to ext rom area as there isn't one!)!
There is a lot of test code in the bootstrap area from HTC and references to other HTC devices!?! - This is definitely a work in progress rather than any kind of complete WM5 build....
Without re-writing the bootstrap code I do not think we will be seeing nice splash screens on this version of WM5 .... Lets hope HTC are still tinkering with it .... I will post the decoded nk.nbf (nk.nba) file here if anyone is brave enough to hex edit it or try to re-write the bootstrap code (then again if you can do that I'm sure you are able to do a simple decode of the rom as well)
i did install the new rom..it does say a new name before installation and shows imate k-jam visual..on installation my device became extremely fast like a rocket in space without garvity :lol:
i have done all sorts of changes on my external rom before as mentioned in most of the forums and did get to remove the antivirus software from my previous version..but overall i still did never get the speed as my other pocket pc devices..thought it was the operating system..
Post new rom installation i checked for my extended rom to see that there was no skype or the anti virus software there anymore...means they have understood that these two were creating the problem...WOW...i am toooo happy now with the speed...yes i did hard reset it once more by adding the certifcate cab file so that i dont keep getting the sertificate notification and added commander as default installation...
MY K-JAM ROCKS NOW...OFCOURSE WITHOUT SKYPE
SORRY DEVELOPERS...I WAS CONFUSED...I WAS WRONG..THE NEW ROM IS JUST THE SAME ROM WITH CHANGES ON THE EXTENDED ROM BRINGING SKYPE AND ANTIVIRUS OUT IN ADD REMOVE PROGRAMMES...WHAT A DISASTER...WELL WAITING FOR THE NEW ROM RELEASING IN JAN WITH PUSH MAIL ,A2DP PROFILE AND A FIX ON PROBABLY EVERYTHING....FOR NOW JUMPING TO GET THE O2 ATOM ON THE 7TH OF DECEMBER
the rom is the same and it does not alter the extended rom.
Quick question, and a dead giveaway - did you delete Skype from your ROM before you installed this new firmware upgrade?
I really customized my Extended ROM, with a splash screen and different CABs, and when I flashed with this firmware upgrade, my Extended ROM remained UNTOUCHED.
Hey BTT how did you change your splash screen? Oh, and i love your new raffle I am in budy cross your fingers for me. Ill do it tomorrow I have to charge my paypall account.
i did what u did
i did change my extended rom as per your (BTT)directions...i even got a new picture of my company there..i did try both skype versions(1.1(non xscale version)and 1.2) in the extended rom with the config.txt changed...i did too many more things there as it was fun but nothing great happened with skype as it never worked but the first time....i finally just thought of trying the shipped rom from clubimate to get back all the way it was before so that i could redo everything...to my surprise after a complete flashing of the device there is no antivirus and the skype in the new extended rom anymore and also the speed is toooooooo god damn fast...believe me but its true...try again...i did chk the download a couple of days back when u wrote of it being the same and i think they have put another one just recently with these 2 files deleted....the shipped rom size now is 55mb...
i am too happy with this setup now as i just added your certify cab file too the extended rom and rebooted...its running at the best speed i have ever witnessed on a pocket pc...
What he meant was that unlike the magician and other previouse htc devices when you flash a new rom it doesnt change your extended rom so if you deleated any of the software from the extended rom it will still be gone. it wont reload the extended rom just the rom
That is exactly what I meant.
At last, do you think that upgrading helps to speed up the device?
consider that i have deleted from extended rom the antivirus.
Thanks
The very nature of assessing this is flawed due to the subjective component of the results. Having done this myself it is my opinion that this rom update is the equivalent of a hard reset. As the clubimate website indicates, the rom is a copy of the rom that shipped with the device.
...as I tought!
Thanks for the confirmation.
Bye
I did it and have had more problems since, dont do it....
if u say you had a problem by loading the clubimate rom means there is some change..though i am not a developer here like some of you guys on this forum but for sure there is a lot of change...also need clarification that if u say the new rom does not flush extended rom then how do i get the setup file back there(old extended rom had no setup file but the config.txt file)...i seriously have started feeling like doing this process again...but no i am way too happy now so i will stick with all my settings..
if you deleated your extended ro m or anything in it and didnt save it, then its gone forever... unless you find someone else who saved it and will give it to you. the settup file is on the ftp site here in the universal folder.
sorry chief...what I meant by saying what I said above is that I had deleted the setup file as I was using some other auto file with combinattion of modified config.txt.and yes it also had the skype file as default in it...and loads of other things like ring tones and alarms etc...(before making changes to the extended rom...I had backed up everythin on my computer so I am not bothered of the setup file
But after the rom upgrade what I saw is everything changed on the extended rom with the setup file back there...
just for my own sattisfaction now I am doing this all over again...
chk my picture blog
www.kjam.mobylog.com
Ok well no one seems to be replying to my question about dumping my orange rom so lets try this instead.
How would i go about saving my orange homescreen so i can put it back once i have upgraded my m700 to the dopod rom.
Or, am i being stupid coz im sort of thinking that maybe the orange customization that runs on first setup is in the ext rom which will stay behind on the upgrade and i will therefore get all my orange stuff still
????? dont really know
Please help i really wanna upgrade my rom but i keep backing out until i can get these things sorted.
thanks all.
Rob
rjefferis said:
Or, am i being stupid coz im sort of thinking that maybe the orange customization that runs on first setup is in the ext rom which will stay behind on the upgrade and i will therefore get all my orange stuff still
????? dont really know
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In the extROM of GPS enabled ROM, I can see this file : PT_WA_Abaxia.CAB which is related to this Orange customization. But I think that some parts of this Today plug'in are embedded with the OS itself.
rjefferis said:
Ok well no one seems to be replying to my question about dumping my orange rom so lets try this instead.
How would i go about saving my orange homescreen so i can put it back once i have upgraded my m700 to the dopod rom.
Or, am i being stupid coz im sort of thinking that maybe the orange customization that runs on first setup is in the ext rom which will stay behind on the upgrade and i will therefore get all my orange stuff still
????? dont really know
Please help i really wanna upgrade my rom but i keep backing out until i can get these things sorted.
thanks all.
Rob
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On my Dopod rom I'm using the orange customisation from the Hermes ,the cab is HERMES_RO_BUILD_93_CLOCK.CAB,and it's working quite well except for the speed dial.
I think that the abaxia cab our friend mentions in the previous post should do the job.
sammis said:
the cab is HERMES_RO_BUILD_93_CLOCK.CAB
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How big is this file ?
mine is around 100KB I think (I'm at work now, can't check how big it is exactly)
Hi everyone.
in my ext rom on my trinity i have the file PT_WA_Abaxia. I order to test whether my ext rom had the correct stuff i hard reset my hermes and installed my trininty ext rom but this didnt seem to install the homescreen. Saying that though it wouldnt let me run the autorun so i had to install the cabs individually.
The hermes homescreen is older than the trinity one. I have never been a big fan of the orange homescreen but the trinity one is quite nice. You can add vip contacts which show up straight in the homescreen rather than having to use the speeddial thing, the background pic changes depending on whether the phone is on silent, vidrate or ring. All in all a but nicer than the hermes one.
more testing
right on my hermes which was factory settings including all orange customization i tried installing the cab PT_WA_Abaxia. didnt seem to do a huge amount.
I then renamed the old DIL_APP folder and copied this folder from my trinity.
I also copied the DIL_PLUGIN.dll from the windows folder on my trinity onto my hermes. Then i soft reset and my trinity homescreen is now on my hermes and all works fine.
So now i need to know how to get my trinity homescreen onto my trinity without the original orange customization.
When i was playing with my hermes last night i tried not installing the orange customization as this then seemed to allow phonepad to work. I then tried the same steps as i did above and i could get the homescreen to show up in the list. Therefore i can only assume that i would need to run the hermes cab to install the original orange screen and then rename it and stuff like i did above.
So in summary, i would need to save the hermes homescreen cab, and the dil folder and the dll file of my trinity. Flash my trinity with the dopod rom. Install the hermes homescreen using the cab. Rename the folder and copy the trinity one across and copy the dll file into the windows folder and all should be done.
Anyone got a better way, while i go off and test my theory.
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How big is this file ?
mine is around 100KB I think (I'm at work now, can't c
heck how big it is exactly)[/
You can find the cab (304kb) in the Hermes FTP extended rom section and in the Orange_M31_00_14.123.1.614_extrom
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thanks for that, i saved it off the hermes. getting good at this unhiding my ext rom malarky.
anyway. i tested my plan and it worked on my hermes.
I hard reset
didnt do orange ext
installed the cab file HERMES_UK_BUILD_93_CLOCK
renamed the dil folder and copied the trinity one in
copied the dll into the windows folder
and hey presto
porbably a bit of a long winded way but it worked.
Hi,
How are you sure Orange wont know yourve flashed the rom?
Also how do you prevent the orange customization after hard reset on the trinity?
Thanks
Warny
well this is the problem. If orange check then they will know we have flashed the rom. That is why i want to be able to re flash back to the orange rom if i need to.
Easiest way to stop the customization on any device is to soft reset just before it starts, when windows loads up the first time on it you will see a little window saying customization will start in 3 sec or something. Just soft reset then and the customization will not run.
So far though i havent found any real reason not to run it on the trinity though. If i dont run it on my hermes at least i can get phonepad to work but no such luck on the trinity.
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I hard reset
didnt do orange ext
installed the cab file HERMES_UK_BUILD_93_CLOCK
renamed the dil folder and copied the trinity one in
copied the dll into the windows folder
and hey presto
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was testing that if we flashed to the dopod rom which has phonepad built in, this is how we could get our orange home screen back.
The second line about not doing the orange ext was really just proof of concept that the process would work even if we didnt have the ext rom installed.
I dont know whether we will loose the orange ext rom when we update to the dopod rom but this was proving that even if we do we can still get all the orange customization back again.
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well this is the problem. If orange check then they will know we have flashed the rom. That is why i want to be able to re flash back to the orange rom if i need to.
Easiest way to stop the customization on any device is to soft reset just before it starts, when windows loads up the first time on it you will see a little window saying customization will start in 3 sec or something. Just soft reset then and the customization will not run.
So far though i havent found any real reason not to run it on the trinity though. If i dont run it on my hermes at least i can get phonepad to work but no such luck on the trinity.
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OK I was hoping it would allow phonepad. So if you flash back the original rom is there any way they can tell? How close are you to doing this on your trinity? Thanks, Warny
well if we could flash back to original then they would not be able to tell. The problem is is that there is not a dumped version of the original orange rom. Therefore if we flash to the dopod rom we have no way of going back to the orange rom unless someone dumps it for us.
Realisticly there is no reason not to flash the dopod rom because we shouldnt loose anything but we gain phonepad. I do worry a bit about the fact that i cant go back again.
if you wanted to send the phone back though then orange would see that the bootscreen had changed after you have flashed to the dopod and might not be too impressed, saying that. If we flash to the dopod and we get phonepad and all our orange stuff then why would we want to send the phone back.
Oh decisions decisions
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So far though i havent found any real reason not to run it on the trinity though.
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I bypass it in order to skip orange mail installation
Hi,
OK i see. It seems from your post about your hermes that it might be possible to make the phone *look* like it has the original rom? (sorry Im half asleep today).
Are you considering trying the process out on the trinity then? (ill wait for you if so lol)
Also it voids the warranty so if it broke it would be nice to reflash to orignal rom so they cant avoid fixing it dont you think?
Warny
Warny
Yeah thats what i mean.
I am very tempted i just keep bottling it.
You are right also about the warranty
If there was an orange rom available i would do it without a thought.
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Warny
Yeah thats what i mean.
I am very tempted i just keep bottling it.
You are right also about the warranty
If there was an orange rom available i would do it without a thought.
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Have you tried things like this?:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=238945
good thinking Warny, right i tried it and it appeared to work. I created a 128mb image. The big question is. Has it worked. We need someone to test my image. Or at least tell me how i can check it has worked and how er can create a rom from it.
Oh crap, just realised. Wrong phone. im using my hermes. god damn it.
Well it worked on that. I will try it on my Trinity but i need to go and get a mini sd card now.
Anyway still need the answers to above bits for when i make the trinity image
getting a bit rommy in here
Warny
lets take this rom dumping discussion over into my other thread, might have more chance of getting answered . I have copied our last coments over there.
Cheers mate
rjefferis said:
Hi everyone.
in my ext rom on my trinity i have the file PT_WA_Abaxia. I order to test whether my ext rom had the correct stuff i hard reset my hermes and installed my trininty ext rom but this didnt seem to install the homescreen. Saying that though it wouldnt let me run the autorun so i had to install the cabs individually.
The hermes homescreen is older than the trinity one. I have never been a big fan of the orange homescreen but the trinity one is quite nice. You can add vip contacts which show up straight in the homescreen rather than having to use the speeddial thing, the background pic changes depending on whether the phone is on silent, vidrate or ring. All in all a but nicer than the hermes one.
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Perhaps you could get someone to install the customizaton from your trinity on their trinity+dopod. Then see if there is any noticable difference?
Warny