o2 plus (beta 01140305) - today screen upgrade - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading

I downloaded the o2 plus (today screen upgrade) from seeo2.com and noted some bugs on it. let me start first with the good things. it's good that they created a shortcut on the screen to change from portrait to landscape and vice versa on the today screen. they also created a profile menu for ringing tone settings but they just only included a call-ringer tone change and left out ability to change sms alert on profiles. Battery monitor was good but still is less detailed than "sprite" coz it does not have a detailed breakdown of the memory status for sd card and storage, for it only shows memory status of the main memory. One good thing though is that it has added a tabular setting for the programs you choose to be available readily.
I was really hoping they have also included the upgrade of it with the phone's ability to receive Vcard, unfortunately, this does not do it.
Am hoping that for any developer out there to try check this out and upgrade it better. Actually the program is already an upgrade from the original today screen but I think it still needs a lot of work.
cheers!

It's highly doubtfully that just anyone with experience can reverse engineer this applicaation without the red tape they have to go through with O2, since O2 does own the copyrights to any application they release.
Anyway, I avoid this application like the plague.

Btw... the latest O2Plus v1.6 which I downloaded through O2 Connect on my IIs caused me a major headache. It makes the Storage dissapear after the first or second soft reset. Once it dissapears, all your programs installed there will fail to work and therefore a hard reset is needed to solve it. I've confirmed this issue with my other forumer friends.

Yep, there's a problem with O2 Plus 1.6. Confirmed it DOES make the IIs storage disappeared. Not only mine, but my buddy's IIs as well. Just avoid this version and hope for a better updated version next time. :wink:

thank you guys for your inputs! and yep, hopefully they could get this upgrade fixed coz it's very ironic for such a software to be called an "upgrade" but it just messes things up! :shock:
cheers!

From what I understand, it's still in beta stage. I am after overall system stability. So no betas on my system, as well as minimal Today Plugins. This configuration seam to be the most stable on my 2s.
I have narrowed my installed stable application to about 67mb. I don't think I'll be installing anything anymore since I've just about capped my program storage space.

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Screen resolution frustration!

Hi,
I'm using Treo 750v for few months now, but I'm really surprised to found out that it's screen resolution have been changed! What I meant is that the screen didn't show text & pictures lines correctly anymore, for an instance: if I save a file from Word Mobile, the Save & Cancel buttons are way below from the bottom of the screen; making them not visible. And there is no scroll down panel so I can't take a look at them...
This not only affected that but also the whole system & applications! So this must the Windows Mobile 6 screen resolution registry had been changed by something. Unfortunately I never checked this every time I installed a new applications or games, so I wouldn't know which have caused the problem.
I've tried to change the settings in Windows Mobile settings option, but no success to bring it back to original again.
Anyone else have experienced the same problem too?
Is there somekind of registry tweak to correct the screen resolution in Windows Mobile 6?
Thanks in advance, I really hope someone can give an answer since this problem is causing me a real frustration because I had to hard-reset many times of my Treo 750v.
Maybe create a backup and give your Treo a hard reset. Should solve the problem. After this install your apps one by one.
When I've flashed my device I always install a few apps then I soft reset. I repeat this until I've installed all my apps. Works better for me when it comes to speed and stability of the device.
mccune,
I did backup my Treo 750v prior the hard-reset action, but when I restore it back using Spb Backup v1.6.3; the screen resolution stays the same! Seems the whole WinMob 6 registry system has been changed permanently...
I also took the steps you mentioned: soft-reset everytime I installed a new apps or games. And I've found out what has been causing the WinMob 6 screen resolution to changed: LingvoSoft's products!!!
Back then I installed LingvoSoft Talking Dictionary 2008 & Talking Phrasebook 2008, and when I contacted their support team respond is as follow: "We acknowledge the compability and stability issue with Windows Mobile platform, specially the language keyboard, we're working on the issues right now."
So I do hope this could become a good warning for those who wish to install LingvoSoft's products into their Treo 750...
But I haven't found another better ways to get back the original screen resolution, the only way is to hard-reset my Treo 750v again and again.
Thanks!
I didn't read your whole post (just too much ), but sounds like your going to have to bite the bullet and do a hard reset and perform manual install (forgo the backup restore) of your apps
tmknight,
i did that... that's the only thing i can do to bring my treo 750v back to it's original settings.
yer good to go then
start installing your apps one at a time to determine the culprit...

Keeping it simple for the ADD crowd...

tl;dr: I want a clean wm 6.1 rom for my Tmobile Wing that is stupid simple to install.
First off, let me say I really appreciate all the work that everyone has put into these custom roms here. I used to use X's MDA custom rom (and still do on my wife's MDA) because it was a very clean rom and it was stupid simple to use. You ran it, clicked next and yes to everything and waited.
I've had the Tmobile wing since launch and I've used the stock firmware because whenever I try to digest any information that is presented in the forum post format, my ADD kicks in and I get nowhere. Now that my replacement wing is here, I figured now is the best time to flash a new rom onto it because I can't put up with not being able to do things like take a picture without soft reseting.
So, I want to get rid of this stock rom but looking at the different rom threads, I'm not sure which one I want. I want to avoid as many 3rd party applications / today screen mods / touch interfaces as possible. Any 3rd party application I need, I'm happier to install post flash.
I do like the custom roms that have the obvious tweaks built in and I really like them when everything I need is included to take me from a fresh Wing out of the box to final product.
And finally, the easier the better. The last thing I have time for is tweaking my cell phone. I've put up with the awful stock rom since the wing came out simply because I haven't had the time to mess around with it.
I thank you in advance for your advice and help.
I'll build you a clean and simple ROM when I get home. Doubleclick on one file and click enter three times. Wait. Done.
ivanmmj said:
I'll build you a clean and simple ROM when I get home. Doubleclick on one file and click enter three times. Wait. Done.
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That is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you. I saw some of your threads and it looked very promising. I assume that covers the CID unlock?
Yep, it doesn't unlock it per say... just goes around the lock. Just one question. What programs do you want on it? If you're not sure, take a look at my kitchen. Those are the packages I'll be using.
Ok, I checked out your thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372236
Adobe Flash
AdobeReader
MS Voice Command
Remote Desktop
I do fine with battery indicator that came with the wing.
Updated Microsoft Office
Java
Wing Keyboard Driver
I'm not familiar enough with each of the registry tweaks you mentioned.
Ivan's Tweaks sound fine, Beam disabled (since there is no IR), disable the security warnings, disable the sliding sounds, get TZ from the network, enable file cache, hide sim contacts, Increase FileSystem filter cache, INcrease font cache, and most definitely get rid of SMS sent message notification if that isn't in there. Also IE temp files on the storage card would be grand.
Ideally the Comm settings would be set for Tmobile USA. (But I don't need My5)
And whatever applications are part of the core OS. I'm not all that unpleased with the stock rom for the wing. I uninstalled a bunch of applications when I got it and haven't had to hard reset it since so I don't remember all the different bloat that came on there. I just would like a bit less of a memory leak, a few good registry tweaks, and of course an update to wm6.1.
If the stock ringtones and sounds can be cut to save space, I'm all for it. However, I read on some of your other posts that you have to get to a certain size on the ROM or it fails. So if that is the case, the sounds/rings can stay.
And as long as I can flash back to the stock rom if I have to warranty this bad boy, I'm as happy as a clam. Maybe I'm crazy but I prefer installing applications outside of the rom process. I like starting with a clean base. The only things I have installed are Google Maps, SPB Wallet and SPB Pocket Plus. Like I said, I try to keep it very simple.
rosewood said:
Ok, I checked out your thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372236
Adobe Flash
AdobeReader
MS Voice Command
Remote Desktop
I do fine with battery indicator that came with the wing.
Updated Microsoft Office
Java
Wing Keyboard Driver
I'm not familiar enough with each of the registry tweaks you mentioned.
Ivan's Tweaks sound fine, Beam disabled (since there is no IR), disable the security warnings, disable the sliding sounds, get TZ from the network, enable file cache, hide sim contacts, Increase FileSystem filter cache, INcrease font cache, and most definitely get rid of SMS sent message notification if that isn't in there. Also IE temp files on the storage card would be grand.
Ideally the Comm settings would be set for Tmobile USA. (But I don't need My5)
And whatever applications are part of the core OS. I'm not all that unpleased with the stock rom for the wing. I uninstalled a bunch of applications when I got it and haven't had to hard reset it since so I don't remember all the different bloat that came on there. I just would like a bit less of a memory leak, a few good registry tweaks, and of course an update to wm6.1.
If the stock ringtones and sounds can be cut to save space, I'm all for it. However, I read on some of your other posts that you have to get to a certain size on the ROM or it fails. So if that is the case, the sounds/rings can stay.
And as long as I can flash back to the stock rom if I have to warranty this bad boy, I'm as happy as a clam. Maybe I'm crazy but I prefer installing applications outside of the rom process. I like starting with a clean base. The only things I have installed are Google Maps, SPB Wallet and SPB Pocket Plus. Like I said, I try to keep it very simple.
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you can wait for open touch 4 =] that's what I am doing.
I'm currently using touch-it vista style.
rosewood said:
Ok, I checked out your thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372236
Adobe Flash
AdobeReader
MS Voice Command
Remote Desktop
I do fine with battery indicator that came with the wing.
Updated Microsoft Office
Java
Wing Keyboard Driver
I'm not familiar enough with each of the registry tweaks you mentioned.
Ivan's Tweaks sound fine, Beam disabled (since there is no IR), disable the security warnings, disable the sliding sounds, get TZ from the network, enable file cache, hide sim contacts, Increase FileSystem filter cache, INcrease font cache, and most definitely get rid of SMS sent message notification if that isn't in there. Also IE temp files on the storage card would be grand.
Ideally the Comm settings would be set for Tmobile USA. (But I don't need My5)
And whatever applications are part of the core OS. I'm not all that unpleased with the stock rom for the wing. I uninstalled a bunch of applications when I got it and haven't had to hard reset it since so I don't remember all the different bloat that came on there. I just would like a bit less of a memory leak, a few good registry tweaks, and of course an update to wm6.1.
If the stock ringtones and sounds can be cut to save space, I'm all for it. However, I read on some of your other posts that you have to get to a certain size on the ROM or it fails. So if that is the case, the sounds/rings can stay.
And as long as I can flash back to the stock rom if I have to warranty this bad boy, I'm as happy as a clam. Maybe I'm crazy but I prefer installing applications outside of the rom process. I like starting with a clean base. The only things I have installed are Google Maps, SPB Wallet and SPB Pocket Plus. Like I said, I try to keep it very simple.
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Sounds like how I like my ROMs.
My ROMs are stripped to the bare minimum. Yes, there is a size requirement that I've been trying to find a way to bypass it but my kitchen DOES work around the problem by inflating ROMs that are too small into the correct size with empty space. I haven't had time to work on this, yet, as I'm heading to work right now, but I will try to get it done tonight.
never mind, wrong...
Thank you ivanmmj. I would say keep the sounds in then since taking them out doesn't really do anything.
Would it be possible to put something in that could be deleted post install? I am just tossing out ideas.
As for "waiting for open touch 4" and using touch-it vista style, I've looked at the threads for that and it just has a bunch of stuff, like the HTC today screen stuff that I don't ever want to use. My today screen is very clean. It has Tmobile's plugin that shows network, date, wifi and bluetooth status. It has my owner info and my calendar info. This is it. I used to use SPB Diary but it was a memory hog and I never did like the clutter.
You don't need the sounds and the less files, the faster the ROM. You can't uninstall anything that's built into the ROM, only things installed after through the ExtROM or anything else. The padding I put in makes the ROM bigger but doesn't add any files. It's all HEX.
ivanmmj said:
You don't need the sounds and the less files, the faster the ROM. You can't uninstall anything that's built into the ROM, only things installed after through the ExtROM or anything else. The padding I put in makes the ROM bigger but doesn't add any files. It's all HEX.
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Well fast is what makes my day
I can't wait for you to work your magic.
Thanks

Nothing new in the new official HTC ROM???

Everything is quiet like the grave... I haven't heard or read a single word if there is anything new in this rom except the tiny bug fixes announced by HTC...
Anybody who already upgraded, have you noticed something new???
Hey
Apart from the official line heres what ive noticed (in twelve hours)
1. Sliding Bar answer on incoming calls
2. Text input keys are smaller so that you can actually see whats on the screen when youre writing (sic)
3. Ever so slight speed improvement on finger sliding
4. Video Call re-replaced with contacts (life saver)
5. Might just be me but the fonts seem sharper and slightly smaller.
6. Add a word in text messaging for example now gives a tick and a cross instead of "add"
Just random little things Ive noticed but as they say, its the little things that count eh!
no more flipping envelope when going to mail it's just there...
and some speed improvements, but in winmo only (not touchflo).
hey just a couple more
7. When connecting to PC via USB you get a 3rd choice - internet sharing (as well as active sync and disk drive)
8. HTC flo text message section now has a forward option as well as reply and delete - no need to view all messages to forward
ill keep you posted (or not if no one is interested)
Thanks for the replies
I feel like the Sliding Bar on answering calls helped me decide to upgrade, even though I'll loose the flipping envelopes
Sliding Bar is good
Ability to forward text message from Touch flo is good
The rest are the icing on the cake!!!
Good luck - I had a bit of a scare with my upgrade last night - it stopped on 60% and told me the image file was corrupt. Worked second time though from the same file???
First bug: if you have activated a security PIN (like me) you can't block the phone keeping pressed the phone down button. The screen goes black for a fraction of second but the phone doesn't block.
Another thing I didn't notice before (so I'm not sure if it was the same in previous versions): you can add only 15 persons to your favorite contacts (the "Add to Favorites" buttons just disappears). BTW, is there any tweak to increase this limit?
its always been 15
I use speed dials - easier and possibly limited to 100 (not sure)
The favourites has always annoyed me - you cant seem to change the order in which they appear and they look boring without a picture (IMO)!
There's also a new Java engine, better than the old one. At least better for Opera Mini 4.2, fonts are now bigger and easier to read.
A recommended update.
jodeltje said:
no more flipping envelope when going to mail it's just there...
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My envelopes are flipping fine.... just as they always have!
And for anyone's who's interested; if you've been using any of the cooked ROM's which have been released recently, you won't notice any difference with this official release because the ROM cookers have been using v2.03 for weeks!
9. Agenda from home screen works correct now. Choose the view u'd like to see, (day, week, month whatever) and it will open up correctly right now, when opening Agenda from home screen.
10. When u select agenda or calls on the home screen, it will be selected by green. When u finished looking agenda or calls, and return to the home screen, the green selected option is gone, a clear screen with no green. (before the thing was always green when u turned back, it frustrated me )
Just 2 things i recognized!
I saw it at Singapore web site http://www.htc.com/sea/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=483&news_id=44
jporch316 said:
...and they look boring without a picture (IMO)!
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They do indeed, but thanks to Facebook I have pictures for all of my favorite friends...
I'll give a look to speed dial too
with this new rom, i have a problem:
when i receive a message and open it with tf3d i can't type prompt.
i have to move down the text to see the last message and then i have to put the cursor on the correct place.
Its a rom update but is it aswell a radio update?
Willem
Noobie question,
As The HTC website won't accept my Orange UK Diamond S/N, would it be okay to download from another source, or do I have to wait until Orange to approve the newer ROM, and publish on their website confused
many thanks
Jonfun said:
Noobie question,
As The HTC website won't accept my Orange UK Diamond S/N, would it be okay to download from another source, or do I have to wait until Orange to approve the newer ROM, and publish on their website confused
many thanks
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As far I now Orange use a own brand rom and when you start using a other rom you will lose your waranty, ofcoarse you can get a other rom just ask someone here to upload it, but you can use than aswell a coocked rom.
Willem
Wilsas said:
As far I now Orange use a own brand rom and when you start using a other rom you will lose your waranty, ofcoarse you can get a other rom just ask someone here to upload it, but you can use than aswell a coocked rom.
Willem
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Yeah, correct. Orange will distribute their own ROM's.
11. AKU version has been updated to allow synchronisation to two PC's (fixing the Activesync error 0x86000107).
Hey
A little bug that I found last night - I installed nadavvi-nadavvi-call-history cab - which installs an extra call history tab to the touchflo menu
Afterwards everytime i tried to access sms through touchflo i kept getting unexpected errors in manila.exe.
As soon as i uninstalled the call history tab sms started working again. Shame as i had this installed with the older rom with no probs and it is quite handy.
I've decided to do the upgrade tonight but I have a question:
All my apps are installed in the 4GB Internal Storage (Not the phone memory). Will the Internal Storage be viped out aswell during the upgrade?
If not, I guess all apps will be useless anyway since the registry is viped. Do you recommend uninstalling all the apps before the rom upgrade???

PointUI 2 Home is out!

Installing it now.
http://www.pointui.com/
major fail...I just installed it and nothing happens ...i see no shortcut in programs folder nothing in the today setting....and I'm not the only one:
http://community.pointui.com/topic/nothing-happens
*update*
Not cool...I choose my device for the install and it instaleld into my strage card in \Storage Card\Programs\Home2
The app runs fine but I have to say it kinda looks like crap on my tilt...I'll roll with it for the rest of the day to see how funtional its is....but they better fix that install issue
ljinsane said:
major fail...I just installed it and nothing happens ...i see no shortcut in programs folder nothing in the today setting....and I'm not the only one:
http://community.pointui.com/topic/nothing-happens
*update*
Not cool...I choose my device for the install and it instaleld into my strage card in \Storage Card\Programs\Home2
The app runs fine but I have to say it kinda looks like crap on my tilt...I'll roll with it for the rest of the day to see how funtional its is....but they better fix that install issue
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It works fine here. It installed to my phone storage, not my card. Went into the "Today" settings and enabled PointUI. No problems here so far.
Synssins said:
It works fine here. It installed to my phone storage, not my card. Went into the "Today" settings and enabled PointUI. No problems here so far.
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I choose my device...and it went to my storage card...I had to run it from the apps program folder as there was no entry in the today settings...even after running the app. I'm going to reinstall and see what happens
needs to be manually started and then works fine...
I reinstalled and it looks like it did what it was supposed to do...installed into my device not storage card and the option to select it in the today setting is there. But this is a definite issue as other people have experience the same thing...check the forum link I posted earlier if you have doubts
I installed it, and uninstalled it 10 min later. It worked the way it was supposed too, but much like everything else I install on the phone, the ease of use is not there so I end up uninstalling it shortly thereafter.
TelloMan said:
I installed it, and uninstalled it 10 min later. It worked the way it was supposed too, but much like everything else I install on the phone, the ease of use is not there so I end up uninstalling it shortly thereafter.
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I completely agree and amd close to uninstalling it myself. While it is a much improved app over the 1st version there is much to be desired in the functionality dept.
I decided to give it couple of days... so far the bast combo was m2d + standard today(with today agenda)...
awkay guys.. I am thinking the same thing. while it looks somehow promising with great potential, imho M2D is still better in it's looks/friendliness.
however I'm going to wait with final judgement for pro version, as this whole applet thing may become something big in the future. anyway - it is nicely coded, but qvga gfx needs to be redone.
I agree to all.... M2D is much more user friendly... I used pointui 1.5 up until M2d came out... PointUI 2.0 goes in the backward direction... It doesnt even stay upto par with Winterface... I understand its beta, but I dont like the way it handles stuff... I loved the way you could scroll in 1.5, man i wish entire windows wud scroll that that.. 2.0 scroll is not similar to all other scroll which ruins its originality... Too similar to other GUIs now :-/... It seems to be made more for the corporate user rather than the personal user...
Yea i installed it on my storage card at first, didn't work.
TO INSTALL:
1. Download it, of course.
2. Run the cab, install it to DEVICE
3. Go to your windows mobile settings, go to the Today options, go to the Items tab, and then uncheck all of your other today items and only leave the Pointui 2 item checked.
4. Enjoy, if possible.
i just installed it without problems on my phone storage.
i love the way you can quickly add / remove applets and the configuration via xml files for the wether / location on the world map. i'm running Athine OS 6.5 ME edition.
I was really looking forward to using this. For weeks i have checked the site in quiet anticipation of home2. After being a user of 1.51 and enjoying its features, my hopes were high for 2. However, it has failed to impress. Maybe it is just me, but where can I find battery information with home2? At least, 1.51 had a battery icon. Furthermore, my own battery icon has been removed from my title bar. There is a lack of customization in home2 that would have been nice to see. I am far from impressed by this.
Yeah a bit disappointed here too, will wait and see how it develops. It can't hold a candle to the BellUI that they did for Bell which is a shame. Also, is there any way to configure which apps it uses for mail/sms/contacts/calendar/alarm etc? I really thought they'd make those easily configurable this time.
whats up with the "select city", not all cities are there, and when i tried selecting chicago, it told me that it was in africa! i think you guys should wait a little before downloading this app, it looks great but it needs more work.

Suggest a Rom and GUI for me.

OK, my first post so be gentle.
I have MDA Vario that has been flashed with TPCElite series V11 MEGA wm6.5 23017. It also has the touchflo GUI running. Now having tried it for a week (only just purchased it a week ago) I can say that I'm not a fan of the touchflo prog. It seems to hang on occasions and I often end up selecting something I didn't want only to find the phone connecting to the net. So I have switched it off. There is a windows default one that is working fine, but I can't see a way to customise the menu so I can add what I want to it.
So my dilemma. Do I flash with a "lite" rom and add a GUI myself afterwards - this way I can uninstall it if I don't like it. Or should I just leave it deselected and install a new one? Will this have any performance/memory issues - ie is the lite rom a better way to go.
I had a Mio PDA with iLauncher on it and I liked the ability to add my own shortcuts etc.
If I should flash can anyone recommend a stable reliable rom. Also is there a better GUI? Been looking at Manila 2D v2 but I want to be able to customise the main menu and I don't want it sluggish.
One final thing. Is it possible to get the phone to ask permission before connecting via gprs rather than scurrying around for the disconnect. I've looked through the menus but can't find anything. Don't mind using it if I want it, just fed up of it dialing it by mistake -(I have sausage fingers.)
i recommend the t.i.r element v5 rom. ive been thru many roms including the tpc series that you have tried and i find that t.i.r element v5 is the best w/ smooth graphics, great gui (full landscape support etc.) i cant post a link as of now since i am new to posting on xda so please look it up and give it a shot!
Is there a CLI version of a rom for this phone or is someone just trying too sound fancy? Since when is touchflu a GUI? I am totally confused.
Do I flash with a "lite" rom and add a GUI myself afterwards
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Uh my head is hurting make it stop.. SOMEONE REPLIED TO THIS?? awmg
If I should flash can anyone recommend a stable reliable rom. Also is there a better GUI
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I am so confused, it's like trying to mess with a womans bra (Full Landscape support) for the first time, what do I do.. do I call her new hair doo a pair of panties? AAAHHHHHHHH
Stylez close this **** down.. REASON.... Doesn't make any sense at all..
I used the GUI version of this forum to reply.. Thanks.
hi DTBrum,
touchflo - i never liked it too, don't know which files are responsible for its running and if it could be removed, seems like it's part of needed htc drivers to me, but this will switch it off completely:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"EnableScroll"=dword:00000000
"EnableCube"=dword:00000000
you need a registry editor to change those values.
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you can't replace gui, or you can theoretically but what you mean is sort of launcher, or today manager. I tried more and didn't like any, they all seems to be laggy to me.
windows in default uses today screen and start menu, it's the same way as in pc edition, there are folders with shortcuts in them for start menu
look in \windows\start menu folder. and on today screen, you can set what you want to see there in settings/today
I use start replacement called quickmenu which is a very small prg with lots of tweaks.
if you don't like those fancy launchers and controls, better you make your own rom. it's very easy with tools from xda. nearly all custom roms lite or full you'll find here have some kind of launchers and today replacement already in them and it's hard to remove or disable them.
there is a lot of different apps like iLauncher, you can install/uninstall.
no one will recommend you any custom rom here, you need to go through trying one after another because everybody's preferences differs. look in wiki.
automatic connect. no, there is no way to disable this. you can use app called 'nodata' but then you'll have to run it to enable/disable every time you want to use internet. But it solves problems in roaming.
Some programs can be set to not auto dial. and another option is, you can set a fake internet connection, make it default and then when you want to go online you'll dial the real one manually. But you may find that some programs would not want to use other then default connection.
and don't get discouraged here on forum, some people are smart here, true, but not all of us here get born that way.
Thankx for the replies.
What I found with touchflo was that there are occasions where I try to scroll from left to right and nothing happens, then all of a sudden I find it has selected something like maps or internet and the phone is trying to connect to the net. Then it starts responding normally. So as a front end user interface for me I'm not that keen on it. Also I can't see a way to remove the categories sucj as maps, and add my own. I have a registry editor and will try changing the values suggested and see if that helps. I'll do a search for the other bits recommended.
Apologies ChumleyEX, not sure if I used the correct terminology. For me a program such as touchflo is an alternative GUI that sits on top of the windows GUI. Just want to know if there are better, more reliable ones. Doesn't have to be fancy. I want to be able to customise it and for it to be quick and responsive.
Sorry I'm sure I was too harsh, I was feeling a little too good last night.
No problem ChumleyEX - no harm done.
Papo - thanks for you time and help, you cleared a few things up for me. Registry edited and touchflo now disabled.
As I said I've only had this device a week and only just found this site recently, so I'm not really up on the terminology so I'm hoping you can look past my shortcomings please. I'll get there. I'm no novice with pc's or pda's but I'm not in the same league as most people on here I admit.
My question about installing an alternative to touchflo was because some of these other programs such as ilauncher like to be installed to the device memory rather than storage card. I don't want to find I start running low on resources so I was contemplating flashing the phone with a wm6.5 lite version with all the MS bloatware removed and adding a launcher/today screen manager afterwards. At least this way if I don't like a particular one I could un-install that. I have no option to remove touchflo.
I was hoping that by describing what I was after people would recommend something that fits the bill. But for now I keep looking at the roms and reading the comments until I find one I like the look of. There is some really nice work here on this site - so tempted to give it a go. I guess we all like different things so it's a matter of personal choice really. Key for me is functionality/responsiveness. It's no good if the interface gets in the way no matter how good it looks.
Off to read some reviews of roms on here now. I'll check out t.i.r element v5 as suggested by agent1001 first.
dude, stop fretting and just try out as many ROMs as you can...and remember to search and read a LOT! it will help in the long run to build your concepts.
i have TWO more suggestions/clarifications for you:
1. you might have big fingers, but what i suspect is that you are using your device as if it has a capacitive screen...which it doesn't. the kaiser (like many htc phones) has a resistive screen. essentially, what this means is that the screen will respond best with a good amount of pressure, applied at a point. so the best suggestion i can give you that will tremendously improve your experience with the device is...use your finger NAILS! the effect is as if you are using a stylus and once you get used to it, any "GUI" will become usable.
2. what you call a "GUI" is not a GUI, technically. this is what chumleyex was alluding to. these "GUIs" run as today screen plugins. they are just that...they are "today screen plugins"...also called "home screen" in other contexts of discussion. you can have many such plugins installed on your device. you can even have many such plugins running at once on your today screen. however, some take over the today screen completely, so you can only use them exclusively. manila2d/manila3d, spb mobile shell, and quite a few others are such kinds of today screen plugins. installing multiple such plugins only takes up storage space. RUNNING multiple such plugins is like running many applications at once...which will consume memory and may slow down the phone, etc, etc.
as always, you should have read the forum rules...which clearly state that "best of" threads or "suggest me a <insert requirement here>" style threads are against the forum rules. which leads me to believe that you probably haven't read the other "stickies" and "wikis" either. start there and then you'll find yourself asking a lot less basic questions that clutter up the forum. don't be surprised if this thread is closed soon by a forum mod. cheers.
Thanks ASCIIker - screen is more responsive with more pressure. Guess I was worried about cracking it.
I did do loads of reading before posting - mainly to do with how to, hard spl, soft spl, roms, radio threads. Sorry if I missed the bit about asking for recommendations.
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I don't want to find I start running low on resources so I was contemplating flashing the phone with a wm6.5 lite version with all the MS bloatware removed and adding a launcher/today screen manager afterwards. At least this way if I don't like a particular one I could un-install that.
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I get the feeling that you think those fancy things in full custom ROMs are taking up space. they are not. and not using them, disabling them, or deleting shortcuts from start menu would do the same as uninstalling.
you've got:
flash memory - (ROM)
int. memory - think about it as HDD: depends, typicaly little over 100MB
RAM, operating memory, like on PC another 100MB: to be used by progs.
those names differs, to add confusion, some refers to int.memory as ROM
MS bloatware & fancy stuff from custom ROMs which you don't want could still rest in peace in ROM and not bothering you. you'll still have your 100MB int.mem. And as long as they are not actively running you still will have 100 RAM and no processor power used. but exactly like mentioned every plugin on today screen means it's running too. get an fdc task manager or alternative to see all processes and other stuff running. (not just tasks) You can find a way to disable nearly everything.
I have no option to remove touchflo.
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I don't think there is any. even with ultra lite, i could be mistaken with this, but i tried hard and it looks like it's part of required htc drivers. so you only could disable it...at least! i hated it too no matter about fingers. it seems better on htc pro2 anyway.
But for now I keep looking at the roms and reading the comments until I find one I like the look of.
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yep, the look would be the main difference i'll say.
but if you want functionality/responsiveness, than you probably better stick with using start button and today screen without unnecessary additions.
* installing on SD card means it will go much slower and (at least on my kaiser) will sometime create errors on card from crashed apps and when I dropped phone or it died w/o shutdown or when contacts on SD card get loosed. many times I even lost complete SD contents.
You have 100MB of int.mem!! it would love to be used by progs.
I suggest you to try all of available and up-to-date custom ROMs then after getting an idea of what is doing what, just mix your own rom. it's a matter of check-in what you want inside basically. and you can add your own stuff too. like programs you buy or are not in any ROM. I have over 110MB of programs fitted in ROM and still 100MB int.mem. and speed of the device and ram is not affected too, because i let only 3 - 4 apps from that running in background.
Well I've tried flashing it and had to visit the toilet as things didn't go well.
I flashed with a lite rom, plan being to leave enough free space on the device to install a nice front end/today screen/touchflo etc to the device when I settled on one I liked.
Rom flashed fine - quite like it.
Radio didn't go well. Got stuck at the dreaded tri coloured screen.
Mtty.exe didn't recover it either.
Visited toilet.
Flashed back to standard rom from manufacturer. All now back up and running.
Have changed underpants.
At least I was able to use the info on here to get it back up and running OK.
Problem was a write error flashing the suggested radio - at 99% got an error 226.
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plan being to leave enough free space on the device to install
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check my previous post.
try flashing from SD card, a lot of troubles with cable/pc/connector
format small (256MB) SD card with FAT32,
rename ruu_signed.nbh file to KAISIMG.NBH place on root of SD
hold camera button and start or reset pda
I think to be honest I'm a little paranoid about keeping the device memory free. The reason is my wife has an O2 Orbit which was running wm5. It has been updated to WM6 and she has very little free storage memory at all on the device to the point where we have struggled getting some programs installed. I know most give you the option to install to storage card or device, but some don't. Also the ones that do install on the storage card often put some files onto the device, such as help or configuration files.
I know this HTC has a lot more memory so it probably isn't an issue in reality.
I'm up to speed about the different types of memory and whether an app is consuming processing power or just storage space depending upon if it running or not. I just didn't have a chance to read your reply before I posted- wife wanted the PC back. And I was relieved just to have the phone back working.
Papo - thanks for you help. Really appreciate it.
I had my tilt for 2 years and never worried about memory.
OK, flashed the phone a couple of times yesterday and I've now found a rom I like a lot. Even the GUI - touchflo - works like a dream and with the programs that came with the rom I can even customise it how I like. It's smooth, quick and I am yet to discover a bug.
I'll give it a run for a couple of weeks and if I decide to keep this then I'll donate.
Interestingly I flashed back to stock rom from T Mobile through links I found on here. Worked without a problem, provided a 6ft+ 16stone bloke is happy with everything in pink. So I then flashed back to the standard HTC rom wm6.1 and had lots of problems. Basic things like selecting tick boxes didn't even work well.
I understand that everyone wants different things from their phones, how they look etc and that is why it is impossible to say which rom is best. But through this site, I have a customised phone that runs so smooth and quickly and looks damn smart. So at the moment I am well chuffed.
The only really difficulty I encountered was I lost all my contacts. Activesync wouldn't restore them and the backup I took was incomplete as I only backed up the sim and not the phone. D'oh. Anyway I've now sorted this out as I found all the old contacts in outlook deleted items. I restored them back to the contacts folder and synced them again and it's all now back up and running.
Off to have a play
If she lets me I may even flash the wifes O2 Orbit XDA. It's been upgraded from wm5 to wm6 and the new rom leaves very little free memory on the device itself and we do struggle at times getting some software onto it. The version of TomTom I have doesn't let you choose where to install it to, it just goes onto the device. I have manually moved it back to the SD card and made new shortcuts etc, but I feel a new rom from this site would be the way to go.
Thank you to all who helped me.
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difficulty I encountered was I lost all my contacts. Activesync wouldn't restore them
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activeSync & outlook played tricks on me too, deleting or doubling all contacts... even easier than backing up by backup program, is to copy 'RAW' database in pda before re-flashing. it's all in one file called PIM.VOL in root of phone. calendar is there as well. you can copy this to SD and upon reflashing copy back to root of pda and see what PC's outlook will have to say to it. or just keep on SD as 2nd backup.
note, the file may be locked by running programs (contacts, messages, home plugin) kill them from taskman in that case.
The version of TomTom I have doesn't let you choose where to install it to, it just goes onto the device.
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tomtom app is two files tomtom nav.exe and data.chk, put them anywhere you like and the rest, config files, will be created by it.
but it runs really slow from SD. and taking 13MB, so again, it's best to have them in ROM.

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