Installing it now.
http://www.pointui.com/
major fail...I just installed it and nothing happens ...i see no shortcut in programs folder nothing in the today setting....and I'm not the only one:
http://community.pointui.com/topic/nothing-happens
*update*
Not cool...I choose my device for the install and it instaleld into my strage card in \Storage Card\Programs\Home2
The app runs fine but I have to say it kinda looks like crap on my tilt...I'll roll with it for the rest of the day to see how funtional its is....but they better fix that install issue
ljinsane said:
major fail...I just installed it and nothing happens ...i see no shortcut in programs folder nothing in the today setting....and I'm not the only one:
http://community.pointui.com/topic/nothing-happens
*update*
Not cool...I choose my device for the install and it instaleld into my strage card in \Storage Card\Programs\Home2
The app runs fine but I have to say it kinda looks like crap on my tilt...I'll roll with it for the rest of the day to see how funtional its is....but they better fix that install issue
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It works fine here. It installed to my phone storage, not my card. Went into the "Today" settings and enabled PointUI. No problems here so far.
Synssins said:
It works fine here. It installed to my phone storage, not my card. Went into the "Today" settings and enabled PointUI. No problems here so far.
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I choose my device...and it went to my storage card...I had to run it from the apps program folder as there was no entry in the today settings...even after running the app. I'm going to reinstall and see what happens
needs to be manually started and then works fine...
I reinstalled and it looks like it did what it was supposed to do...installed into my device not storage card and the option to select it in the today setting is there. But this is a definite issue as other people have experience the same thing...check the forum link I posted earlier if you have doubts
I installed it, and uninstalled it 10 min later. It worked the way it was supposed too, but much like everything else I install on the phone, the ease of use is not there so I end up uninstalling it shortly thereafter.
TelloMan said:
I installed it, and uninstalled it 10 min later. It worked the way it was supposed too, but much like everything else I install on the phone, the ease of use is not there so I end up uninstalling it shortly thereafter.
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I completely agree and amd close to uninstalling it myself. While it is a much improved app over the 1st version there is much to be desired in the functionality dept.
I decided to give it couple of days... so far the bast combo was m2d + standard today(with today agenda)...
awkay guys.. I am thinking the same thing. while it looks somehow promising with great potential, imho M2D is still better in it's looks/friendliness.
however I'm going to wait with final judgement for pro version, as this whole applet thing may become something big in the future. anyway - it is nicely coded, but qvga gfx needs to be redone.
I agree to all.... M2D is much more user friendly... I used pointui 1.5 up until M2d came out... PointUI 2.0 goes in the backward direction... It doesnt even stay upto par with Winterface... I understand its beta, but I dont like the way it handles stuff... I loved the way you could scroll in 1.5, man i wish entire windows wud scroll that that.. 2.0 scroll is not similar to all other scroll which ruins its originality... Too similar to other GUIs now :-/... It seems to be made more for the corporate user rather than the personal user...
Yea i installed it on my storage card at first, didn't work.
TO INSTALL:
1. Download it, of course.
2. Run the cab, install it to DEVICE
3. Go to your windows mobile settings, go to the Today options, go to the Items tab, and then uncheck all of your other today items and only leave the Pointui 2 item checked.
4. Enjoy, if possible.
i just installed it without problems on my phone storage.
i love the way you can quickly add / remove applets and the configuration via xml files for the wether / location on the world map. i'm running Athine OS 6.5 ME edition.
I was really looking forward to using this. For weeks i have checked the site in quiet anticipation of home2. After being a user of 1.51 and enjoying its features, my hopes were high for 2. However, it has failed to impress. Maybe it is just me, but where can I find battery information with home2? At least, 1.51 had a battery icon. Furthermore, my own battery icon has been removed from my title bar. There is a lack of customization in home2 that would have been nice to see. I am far from impressed by this.
Yeah a bit disappointed here too, will wait and see how it develops. It can't hold a candle to the BellUI that they did for Bell which is a shame. Also, is there any way to configure which apps it uses for mail/sms/contacts/calendar/alarm etc? I really thought they'd make those easily configurable this time.
whats up with the "select city", not all cities are there, and when i tried selecting chicago, it told me that it was in africa! i think you guys should wait a little before downloading this app, it looks great but it needs more work.
Related
Check this out (if you have not seen it already).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355451
It is available for download already. Very slick...but not sure it is what I am looking for. I like how my Today page is set up now, with all info in one spot.
Anyway, thought I would share if you have not seen it already. I will continue to play with it when I get a chance.
kwickone said:
Check this out (if you have not seen it already).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355451
It is available for download already. Very slick...but not sure it is what I am looking for. I like how my Today page is set up now, with all info in one spot.
Anyway, thought I would share if you have not seen it already. I will continue to play with it when I get a chance.
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I saw this a week or so ago, and it looks pretty damn nice. This is the type of inerface that WM needs to incorprate.
Word of Caution before you guys use this prog!
If you d/l this you will have to go through a lot of crap just to uninstall it once you realize that it lacks functions like "games" "camera" or basically any 3rd app you have installed on your device.
jb
I put it on my Exec, & it Is a bit like Paris Hilton - looks pretty but turns out to be a waste of space.
Admittedly is is a lot more pleasing on the eye than windows mobile, but it is like the terminator of applications, there is no defeating it once its on your device.
Im struggling like hell to get rid of it. A hard reset is looking like my best option.
jbmorales said:
If you d/l this you will have to go through a lot of crap just to uninstall it once you realize that it lacks functions like "games" "camera" or basically any 3rd app you have installed on your device.
jb
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Agreed,
I dloaded and installed it then tried uninstalling, only to realize it wouldn't without serious extra effort( deleteing folders, reg keys etc.)
Even on their forums there's a mile long uninstall thread.
Alemaker
mjay07 said:
I put it on my Exec, & it Is a bit like Paris Hilton - looks pretty but turns out to be a waste of space.
Admittedly is is a lot more pleasing on the eye than windows mobile, but it is like the terminator of applications, there is no defeating it once its on your device.
Im struggling like hell to get rid of it. A hard reset is looking like my best option.
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That's what I ended up doing.
Thank God for Sprite back-up!
Alemaker
Same here. I had to Hard reset also. Got tired of searching for it's file.
uninstall
read their forum..
you have to uninstall thru the .Update Manager app in programs folder, not uninstall applications in windows system folder.
take a look at their forum, believe it or not the developers of this application do and answer alot of questions if you look
jlavoie said:
read their forum..
you have to uninstall thru the .Update Manager app in programs folder, not uninstall applications in windows system folder.
take a look at their forum, believe it or not the developers of this application do and answer alot of questions if you look
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Been there, done that (and got that tee shirt ). Home app goes away nicely. Update Manager has no uninstall method that i can find (tried both that PointUI forums mentioned). Looking at hard reset tonight. Bummer.
installed earlier today.. number one mobile interface, period.
From the Explorer, in \program files\pointui ... start the "Update Manager"
Go in the Pointui Products>Home>1.01b Free> "Uninstall" !
That's it, the main app is uninstalled. Now you can uninstall the updater/installer.
Well, I like the program, so I have no need to uninstall it for now. But according to this thread:
http://forums.pointui.com/viewtopic.php?t=130
It's much simpler to remove it than a "mile long thread" would imply. Maybe they found a way to do so, or documented it after all the confusion. But to not try this thing out, IMO, is a missed opportunity to try something quite nice.
EDIT: Just saw Sebbes' reply. Those are essentially the directions given in the thread. Again, i can't say for certain they work since I am keeping it and haven't tried to uninstall.
Tried this myself yesterday, and am quite impressed.
If they can sort out the bugs and add some new features over the coming months, this thing could be huge.
For now, it works ok. If you don't treat this as a final product it is a fun ride.
jlavoie said:
read their forum..
you have to uninstall thru the .Update Manager app in programs folder, not uninstall applications in windows system folder.
take a look at their forum, believe it or not the developers of this application do and answer alot of questions if you look
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done that. leaves home update icon in programs folder.
PointUI - just great !
Best app for a long time..
Cheers
hrb
Eye Candy that lacks function and support of the other great apps you need to use!
Maybe in time will come good but for now I'm sticking with my setup.
MM
fyi, "interface" != "OS"... i still like it WHOLE lot, but the house needs some interior finishing, i.e. letting me get to my hard-button shortcuts would be a neighborly thing; also not hiding PIE from me would be friendly. even so, its faster than the cube/flashlight combo i've used from here.
jomo25 said:
Well, I like the program, so I have no need to uninstall it for now. But according to this thread:
http://forums.pointui.com/viewtopic.php?t=130
It's much simpler to remove it than a "mile long thread" would imply. Maybe they found a way to do so, or documented it after all the confusion. But to not try this thing out, IMO, is a missed opportunity to try something quite nice.
EDIT: Just saw Sebbes' reply. Those are essentially the directions given in the thread. Again, i can't say for certain they work since I am keeping it and haven't tried to uninstall.
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lol-well-if my interpretation of a long thread about uninstalling confuses ppl, then so be it. It really was a PITA to uninstall seeing as it doesn't follow accepted guidelines for uninstall( through remove programs) and after someone does figure out the obtuse uninstall, it still leaves reg key mods that need to be fixed to restore functionality to the soft keys.
mjay07 said:
I put it on my Exec, & it Is a bit like Paris Hilton - looks pretty but turns out to be a waste of space.
Admittedly is is a lot more pleasing on the eye than windows mobile, but it is like the terminator of applications, there is no defeating it once its on your device.
Im struggling like hell to get rid of it. A hard reset is looking like my best option.
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You could not have said it any better. LOL
Yeah I had to hard reset as well.
not too bad...
the only problem for me is the scrolling which really sucks.. i do like the way it switches from the clock to the calender however.
I just installed the latest build of PointUI (www.pointui.com) on my TyTN II, and really like the slick interface and touch capability. Anyone else running this app, and if so have you run into any issues? The fact that the software will remain a free product makes it worth the "testing".
Thanks.
James
Theres a couple of threads on this already. I have installed it but my TyTN II locks up every time within 2 minutes of starting, even after a soft-reset so have given up for now.
I may give it another go when they fix all the bugs listed on their forums and add more features to make it more usable and by then hopefully my lockup issues will be solved as well.
I did use it for some days but I hate that the 'close' button is not an actual close button at all. It just minimizes the app instead of closing it. So it is very memory consuming.
But I did like the interface and the way it worked. Just wait a little longer to have them some issues solved.
plexat they have just fixed the close program issue today with this update
http://www.pointui.com/files/tests/hardwarekeys2/home.zip
Copy the exe over the old one and you now have a close button instead of a minimize one!
It also fixes the issue with hardware buttons not working.
the background color is horrid and the icons are goofy. but the app itself is pretty slick and i like the update manager.
i haven't used it that much, but the only bug i've experienced is while swiping my finger from side to side to move the applet ribbon the touch cube activates. i didn't know it could activate with a side to side motion.
anyway, for a beta product this thing is incredible. it has huge potential. after revisions, i think this will be a must-have app.
just installed it on my phone and it works for about 2 mins before freezing, once already its reduced my screen to randon red and yellow dots, so thats getting uninstalled.
shame really as the 5 mins i did get to spend playing with it i was quite impressed
or i would if it had a proper uninstaller
very nice!
Just installed this in a WM6 emulator (having no real WM6 hardware at this time) and I must say it is superb! It feels like an iPhone (heresy to say something around here, I know). I almost have to say that it is better then TouchFLO (Yet another heresy to say something around here).
Desktopflame said:
plexat they have just fixed the close program issue today with this update
http://www.pointui.com/files/tests/hardwarekeys2/home.zip
Copy the exe over the old one and you now have a close button instead of a minimize one!
It also fixes the issue with hardware buttons not working.
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This is a great update! I didn't like the idea of all my apps running in the background. Thanks for pointing this out.
yay! it lets me get to the hardware buttons!
Desktopflame said:
plexat they have just fixed the close program issue today with this update
http://www.pointui.com/files/tests/hardwarekeys2/home.zip
Copy the exe over the old one and you now have a close button instead of a minimize one!
It also fixes the issue with hardware buttons not working.
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Thank you very much. This is way better than before.
Btw How did you know where to get the file from?? I am registered at the forum but see no file section??
plexat said:
Thank you very much. This is way better than before.
Btw How did you know where to get the file from?? I am registered at the forum but see no file section??
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No problem. I dont really know how I found it I have a tendancy to go to forums and open all threads that interest me by holding ctrl down and clicking on them. Then I read through and close them as I go.
I just happened to come across the update in one of the threads I was reading! One of the developers had posted a link to the file in the middle of a thread.
diar said:
the background color is horrid and the icons are goofy. but the app itself is pretty slick and i like the update manager.
i haven't used it that much, but the only bug i've experienced is while swiping my finger from side to side to move the applet ribbon the touch cube activates. i didn't know it could activate with a side to side motion.
anyway, for a beta product this thing is incredible. it has huge potential. after revisions, i think this will be a must-have app.
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The cube activating is due to your touchflo config file. All you need to do is edit the config file to exclude pointui and the cube will not activate while pointui is open.
badaccent said:
Just installed this in a WM6 emulator (having no real WM6 hardware at this time) and I must say it is superb! It feels like an iPhone (heresy to say something around here, I know). I almost have to say that it is better then TouchFLO (Yet another heresy to say something around here).
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Where did you get an emulator from, i would be interested in this.
PointUI - some notes
Great app, but the problem is it cannot start my 3G connection when e.g. updating weather, or using update manager.
DAMN!
When I start the connection manually from normal WM6 interface, it works then, but it's annoying...
Any help with this?
Thanks,
Gabriel
You know, the saddest part about it all is that even with our $700+ dollar devices (unless you're like me and sold your soul to AT&T... $150 Kaiser baby!) we're all dying for a UI like this. Tell you what, if it wasn't for you guys and the xda-developers community, there's no way in hell I would have gotten this phone. Dutty's ROMs are magical stuff, man. Tell you what, after a few more weeks/months of dev. and a full version with a less... erm... blue background, I'd pay $50 for this program if it allows me to get through my day without ever seeing any part of the traditional Windows Mobile UI. I'd pick it up for $100 if they included integrated task manager, file explorer, media player, web browser, and other essential software. Hell, I'd gladly go higher if they allowed me to never have to see any part of Windows Mobile GUI again. The Kaiser kills the iPhone in functionality (that's why we're all here, right?), but man pointUI is a step in the right direction towards closing the "sexiness" gap.
Okay, rant over.
I'm note sure I would pay $100 for the UI, but I do agree that this is exactly what Windows Mobile needs. Overall function is great and with just a few minor fixes/changes this would be the killer app for any WM device.
nvrnuff said:
You know, the saddest part about it all is that even with our $700+ dollar devices (unless you're like me and sold your soul to AT&T... $150 Kaiser baby!) we're all dying for a UI like this. Tell you what, if it wasn't for you guys and the xda-developers community, there's no way in hell I would have gotten this phone. Dutty's ROMs are magical stuff, man. Tell you what, after a few more weeks/months of dev. and a full version with a less... erm... blue background, I'd pay $50 for this program if it allows me to get through my day without ever seeing any part of the traditional Windows Mobile UI. I'd pick it up for $100 if they included integrated task manager, file explorer, media player, web browser, and other essential software. Hell, I'd gladly go higher if they allowed me to never have to see any part of Windows Mobile GUI again. The Kaiser kills the iPhone in functionality (that's why we're all here, right?), but man pointUI is a step in the right direction towards closing the "sexiness" gap.
Okay, rant over.
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I cannot agree more than what you say. HTC is a superb tool designed by engineers with some "help" from designer people. I love it, but my god the interface is sometimes not sexy at all (just compare the icons of pointui as an exemple
Iphone is a superb tool made by designers. I love it from a purely design point of view, but it lacks a lot of things engineers love (openness, 3G+, GPS, etc.)
Now the TYTNII plus a pointUI type interface would be the top must. The very few minutes I spent with pointUI, I loved it. I will keep it as soon as it really work and have more customization.
Now, I am sticked to HTC, because it is quite easier to adapt a new interface to an existing device, than the contrary
Thx
hi, i just downloaded this PointUI but i dun quite like it yet..so i decided to uninstall it. The problem is now my left softkey is stuck with 'Home' even after uninstalling and removing everything that is PointUI related (i think i've done everthing )
so, would anyone be kind enough to teach me what to do next?! please!!
thanks in advance!!
leslieyim said:
hi, i just downloaded this PointUI but i dun quite like it yet..so i decided to uninstall it. The problem is now my left softkey is stuck with 'Home' even after uninstalling and removing everything that is PointUI related (i think i've done everthing )
so, would anyone be kind enough to teach me what to do next?! please!!
thanks in advance!!
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Read the uninstall instructions on the PointUI forums.
leslieyim said:
hi, i just downloaded this PointUI but i dun quite like it yet..so i decided to uninstall it. The problem is now my left softkey is stuck with 'Home' even after uninstalling and removing everything that is PointUI related (i think i've done everthing )
so, would anyone be kind enough to teach me what to do next?! please!!
thanks in advance!!
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I had the same.. fairly easy to fix:
get yourself a registry editor (PHM for example)
navigate to: \HKCU\software\microsoft\today\keys\112
change: Default string to 'phone' (from Home)
change: Open string to '\windows\cprog.exe'
then i'd do a soft reset.
should work..
hth.
tl;dr: I want a clean wm 6.1 rom for my Tmobile Wing that is stupid simple to install.
First off, let me say I really appreciate all the work that everyone has put into these custom roms here. I used to use X's MDA custom rom (and still do on my wife's MDA) because it was a very clean rom and it was stupid simple to use. You ran it, clicked next and yes to everything and waited.
I've had the Tmobile wing since launch and I've used the stock firmware because whenever I try to digest any information that is presented in the forum post format, my ADD kicks in and I get nowhere. Now that my replacement wing is here, I figured now is the best time to flash a new rom onto it because I can't put up with not being able to do things like take a picture without soft reseting.
So, I want to get rid of this stock rom but looking at the different rom threads, I'm not sure which one I want. I want to avoid as many 3rd party applications / today screen mods / touch interfaces as possible. Any 3rd party application I need, I'm happier to install post flash.
I do like the custom roms that have the obvious tweaks built in and I really like them when everything I need is included to take me from a fresh Wing out of the box to final product.
And finally, the easier the better. The last thing I have time for is tweaking my cell phone. I've put up with the awful stock rom since the wing came out simply because I haven't had the time to mess around with it.
I thank you in advance for your advice and help.
I'll build you a clean and simple ROM when I get home. Doubleclick on one file and click enter three times. Wait. Done.
ivanmmj said:
I'll build you a clean and simple ROM when I get home. Doubleclick on one file and click enter three times. Wait. Done.
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That is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you. I saw some of your threads and it looked very promising. I assume that covers the CID unlock?
Yep, it doesn't unlock it per say... just goes around the lock. Just one question. What programs do you want on it? If you're not sure, take a look at my kitchen. Those are the packages I'll be using.
Ok, I checked out your thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372236
Adobe Flash
AdobeReader
MS Voice Command
Remote Desktop
I do fine with battery indicator that came with the wing.
Updated Microsoft Office
Java
Wing Keyboard Driver
I'm not familiar enough with each of the registry tweaks you mentioned.
Ivan's Tweaks sound fine, Beam disabled (since there is no IR), disable the security warnings, disable the sliding sounds, get TZ from the network, enable file cache, hide sim contacts, Increase FileSystem filter cache, INcrease font cache, and most definitely get rid of SMS sent message notification if that isn't in there. Also IE temp files on the storage card would be grand.
Ideally the Comm settings would be set for Tmobile USA. (But I don't need My5)
And whatever applications are part of the core OS. I'm not all that unpleased with the stock rom for the wing. I uninstalled a bunch of applications when I got it and haven't had to hard reset it since so I don't remember all the different bloat that came on there. I just would like a bit less of a memory leak, a few good registry tweaks, and of course an update to wm6.1.
If the stock ringtones and sounds can be cut to save space, I'm all for it. However, I read on some of your other posts that you have to get to a certain size on the ROM or it fails. So if that is the case, the sounds/rings can stay.
And as long as I can flash back to the stock rom if I have to warranty this bad boy, I'm as happy as a clam. Maybe I'm crazy but I prefer installing applications outside of the rom process. I like starting with a clean base. The only things I have installed are Google Maps, SPB Wallet and SPB Pocket Plus. Like I said, I try to keep it very simple.
rosewood said:
Ok, I checked out your thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372236
Adobe Flash
AdobeReader
MS Voice Command
Remote Desktop
I do fine with battery indicator that came with the wing.
Updated Microsoft Office
Java
Wing Keyboard Driver
I'm not familiar enough with each of the registry tweaks you mentioned.
Ivan's Tweaks sound fine, Beam disabled (since there is no IR), disable the security warnings, disable the sliding sounds, get TZ from the network, enable file cache, hide sim contacts, Increase FileSystem filter cache, INcrease font cache, and most definitely get rid of SMS sent message notification if that isn't in there. Also IE temp files on the storage card would be grand.
Ideally the Comm settings would be set for Tmobile USA. (But I don't need My5)
And whatever applications are part of the core OS. I'm not all that unpleased with the stock rom for the wing. I uninstalled a bunch of applications when I got it and haven't had to hard reset it since so I don't remember all the different bloat that came on there. I just would like a bit less of a memory leak, a few good registry tweaks, and of course an update to wm6.1.
If the stock ringtones and sounds can be cut to save space, I'm all for it. However, I read on some of your other posts that you have to get to a certain size on the ROM or it fails. So if that is the case, the sounds/rings can stay.
And as long as I can flash back to the stock rom if I have to warranty this bad boy, I'm as happy as a clam. Maybe I'm crazy but I prefer installing applications outside of the rom process. I like starting with a clean base. The only things I have installed are Google Maps, SPB Wallet and SPB Pocket Plus. Like I said, I try to keep it very simple.
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you can wait for open touch 4 =] that's what I am doing.
I'm currently using touch-it vista style.
rosewood said:
Ok, I checked out your thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372236
Adobe Flash
AdobeReader
MS Voice Command
Remote Desktop
I do fine with battery indicator that came with the wing.
Updated Microsoft Office
Java
Wing Keyboard Driver
I'm not familiar enough with each of the registry tweaks you mentioned.
Ivan's Tweaks sound fine, Beam disabled (since there is no IR), disable the security warnings, disable the sliding sounds, get TZ from the network, enable file cache, hide sim contacts, Increase FileSystem filter cache, INcrease font cache, and most definitely get rid of SMS sent message notification if that isn't in there. Also IE temp files on the storage card would be grand.
Ideally the Comm settings would be set for Tmobile USA. (But I don't need My5)
And whatever applications are part of the core OS. I'm not all that unpleased with the stock rom for the wing. I uninstalled a bunch of applications when I got it and haven't had to hard reset it since so I don't remember all the different bloat that came on there. I just would like a bit less of a memory leak, a few good registry tweaks, and of course an update to wm6.1.
If the stock ringtones and sounds can be cut to save space, I'm all for it. However, I read on some of your other posts that you have to get to a certain size on the ROM or it fails. So if that is the case, the sounds/rings can stay.
And as long as I can flash back to the stock rom if I have to warranty this bad boy, I'm as happy as a clam. Maybe I'm crazy but I prefer installing applications outside of the rom process. I like starting with a clean base. The only things I have installed are Google Maps, SPB Wallet and SPB Pocket Plus. Like I said, I try to keep it very simple.
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Sounds like how I like my ROMs.
My ROMs are stripped to the bare minimum. Yes, there is a size requirement that I've been trying to find a way to bypass it but my kitchen DOES work around the problem by inflating ROMs that are too small into the correct size with empty space. I haven't had time to work on this, yet, as I'm heading to work right now, but I will try to get it done tonight.
never mind, wrong...
Thank you ivanmmj. I would say keep the sounds in then since taking them out doesn't really do anything.
Would it be possible to put something in that could be deleted post install? I am just tossing out ideas.
As for "waiting for open touch 4" and using touch-it vista style, I've looked at the threads for that and it just has a bunch of stuff, like the HTC today screen stuff that I don't ever want to use. My today screen is very clean. It has Tmobile's plugin that shows network, date, wifi and bluetooth status. It has my owner info and my calendar info. This is it. I used to use SPB Diary but it was a memory hog and I never did like the clutter.
You don't need the sounds and the less files, the faster the ROM. You can't uninstall anything that's built into the ROM, only things installed after through the ExtROM or anything else. The padding I put in makes the ROM bigger but doesn't add any files. It's all HEX.
ivanmmj said:
You don't need the sounds and the less files, the faster the ROM. You can't uninstall anything that's built into the ROM, only things installed after through the ExtROM or anything else. The padding I put in makes the ROM bigger but doesn't add any files. It's all HEX.
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Well fast is what makes my day
I can't wait for you to work your magic.
Thanks
Hi everybody.
Hopefully you all can help me out. I recently installed SPB pocket plus thinking I needed that for their Insight, but I now understand I don't. I went ahead and un-installed the pocket plus before i installed insight, and now the task option in the top right corner is gone on my Today screen. So I can't close programs individually or see whats running. Any ideas? Really don't want to restore a backup as I haven't done one since January. Thanks for any help! -Jeff
Punker1234 said:
Hi everybody.
Hopefully you all can help me out. I recently installed SPB pocket plus thinking I needed that for their Insight, but I now understand I don't. I went ahead and un-installed the pocket plus before i installed insight, and now the task option in the top right corner is gone on my Today screen. So I can't close programs individually or see whats running. Any ideas? Really don't want to restore a backup as I haven't done one since January. Thanks for any help! -Jeff
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May have a solution for you but it may not be what you are looking for.
Here is quickmenu. Quickmenu basically sets your device similar to a PC's start menu. Once you install this cab you will find it under start>programs. After you click on the application you will notice a new start menu.
Possible solution: Start>click on quickmenu>option>X-button of screen:Long-press to close, short to minimize.
After you have this set up correcting, simply click start to view your open programs. Fairly simple I have been using this application since I received my Tilt and I wouldn't have it any other way.
Hope you enjoy it.
I installed a barebones ROM and found I really liked that task manager in the top right corner....
Do a search on this site for Task_Manager_2_0_30487_2.CAB, it is exactly what you are looking for AND has a couple of other features too.
The difference between this and Quickmenu is that this one doesn't have all the other stuff (although I use quickmenu)....
Hope this helps,
MBN
yea, I'm sort of looking just to get the original one back, I'm not sure what I should do. I guess if I don't have a solution I'll be forced to run a backup I did on sprite. Was hoping this was a common problem but i guess not
I had the same problem when I tried the demo out. After a little research on SPB's forums, it turns out that it is a known problem during uninstallation.
Unfortunately I don't have an answer for you on how to fix it. I was so PO'd that I went and hard reset the phone. I hope that SPB fixes the issue and I'd like to see how support is for WM6.1
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yea, I'm sort of looking just to get the original one back, I'm not sure what I should do. I guess if I don't have a solution I'll be forced to run a backup I did on sprite. Was hoping this was a common problem but i guess not
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I'm tellin' ya, try the one I referenced above, it has just the corner app but where the original has a couple of options above the list of open apps, this offers three little buttons: Close All Open Apps|Settings|Memory %.
This takes up the same real estate the other one uses... give it a try, you won't be disappointed.
MBN
MustBNuts said:
I'm tellin' ya, try the one I referenced above, it has just the corner app but where the original has a couple of options above the list of open apps, this offers three little buttons: Close All Open Apps|Settings|Memory %.
This takes up the same real estate the other one uses... give it a try, you won't be disappointed.
MBN
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I actually tried it, and I love. The only thing I don't understand is the functionally, all I can figure out as of right now that it shows memory usage,thats it. Anyway, thanks for the heads up! -Jeff
On Kaiser You can restore the today quick menu (in the upper corner): in the system settings find "X Button" icon - tap on it and there will be an option to turn it on/off. If its suddenly disappeared that can be becouse of something (e.g. 3rd application) turned it off. Thats happend in my case with SPB Pocket Plus on wm6.
OK, my first post so be gentle.
I have MDA Vario that has been flashed with TPCElite series V11 MEGA wm6.5 23017. It also has the touchflo GUI running. Now having tried it for a week (only just purchased it a week ago) I can say that I'm not a fan of the touchflo prog. It seems to hang on occasions and I often end up selecting something I didn't want only to find the phone connecting to the net. So I have switched it off. There is a windows default one that is working fine, but I can't see a way to customise the menu so I can add what I want to it.
So my dilemma. Do I flash with a "lite" rom and add a GUI myself afterwards - this way I can uninstall it if I don't like it. Or should I just leave it deselected and install a new one? Will this have any performance/memory issues - ie is the lite rom a better way to go.
I had a Mio PDA with iLauncher on it and I liked the ability to add my own shortcuts etc.
If I should flash can anyone recommend a stable reliable rom. Also is there a better GUI? Been looking at Manila 2D v2 but I want to be able to customise the main menu and I don't want it sluggish.
One final thing. Is it possible to get the phone to ask permission before connecting via gprs rather than scurrying around for the disconnect. I've looked through the menus but can't find anything. Don't mind using it if I want it, just fed up of it dialing it by mistake -(I have sausage fingers.)
i recommend the t.i.r element v5 rom. ive been thru many roms including the tpc series that you have tried and i find that t.i.r element v5 is the best w/ smooth graphics, great gui (full landscape support etc.) i cant post a link as of now since i am new to posting on xda so please look it up and give it a shot!
Is there a CLI version of a rom for this phone or is someone just trying too sound fancy? Since when is touchflu a GUI? I am totally confused.
Do I flash with a "lite" rom and add a GUI myself afterwards
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Uh my head is hurting make it stop.. SOMEONE REPLIED TO THIS?? awmg
If I should flash can anyone recommend a stable reliable rom. Also is there a better GUI
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I am so confused, it's like trying to mess with a womans bra (Full Landscape support) for the first time, what do I do.. do I call her new hair doo a pair of panties? AAAHHHHHHHH
Stylez close this **** down.. REASON.... Doesn't make any sense at all..
I used the GUI version of this forum to reply.. Thanks.
hi DTBrum,
touchflo - i never liked it too, don't know which files are responsible for its running and if it could be removed, seems like it's part of needed htc drivers to me, but this will switch it off completely:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"EnableScroll"=dword:00000000
"EnableCube"=dword:00000000
you need a registry editor to change those values.
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you can't replace gui, or you can theoretically but what you mean is sort of launcher, or today manager. I tried more and didn't like any, they all seems to be laggy to me.
windows in default uses today screen and start menu, it's the same way as in pc edition, there are folders with shortcuts in them for start menu
look in \windows\start menu folder. and on today screen, you can set what you want to see there in settings/today
I use start replacement called quickmenu which is a very small prg with lots of tweaks.
if you don't like those fancy launchers and controls, better you make your own rom. it's very easy with tools from xda. nearly all custom roms lite or full you'll find here have some kind of launchers and today replacement already in them and it's hard to remove or disable them.
there is a lot of different apps like iLauncher, you can install/uninstall.
no one will recommend you any custom rom here, you need to go through trying one after another because everybody's preferences differs. look in wiki.
automatic connect. no, there is no way to disable this. you can use app called 'nodata' but then you'll have to run it to enable/disable every time you want to use internet. But it solves problems in roaming.
Some programs can be set to not auto dial. and another option is, you can set a fake internet connection, make it default and then when you want to go online you'll dial the real one manually. But you may find that some programs would not want to use other then default connection.
and don't get discouraged here on forum, some people are smart here, true, but not all of us here get born that way.
Thankx for the replies.
What I found with touchflo was that there are occasions where I try to scroll from left to right and nothing happens, then all of a sudden I find it has selected something like maps or internet and the phone is trying to connect to the net. Then it starts responding normally. So as a front end user interface for me I'm not that keen on it. Also I can't see a way to remove the categories sucj as maps, and add my own. I have a registry editor and will try changing the values suggested and see if that helps. I'll do a search for the other bits recommended.
Apologies ChumleyEX, not sure if I used the correct terminology. For me a program such as touchflo is an alternative GUI that sits on top of the windows GUI. Just want to know if there are better, more reliable ones. Doesn't have to be fancy. I want to be able to customise it and for it to be quick and responsive.
Sorry I'm sure I was too harsh, I was feeling a little too good last night.
No problem ChumleyEX - no harm done.
Papo - thanks for you time and help, you cleared a few things up for me. Registry edited and touchflo now disabled.
As I said I've only had this device a week and only just found this site recently, so I'm not really up on the terminology so I'm hoping you can look past my shortcomings please. I'll get there. I'm no novice with pc's or pda's but I'm not in the same league as most people on here I admit.
My question about installing an alternative to touchflo was because some of these other programs such as ilauncher like to be installed to the device memory rather than storage card. I don't want to find I start running low on resources so I was contemplating flashing the phone with a wm6.5 lite version with all the MS bloatware removed and adding a launcher/today screen manager afterwards. At least this way if I don't like a particular one I could un-install that. I have no option to remove touchflo.
I was hoping that by describing what I was after people would recommend something that fits the bill. But for now I keep looking at the roms and reading the comments until I find one I like the look of. There is some really nice work here on this site - so tempted to give it a go. I guess we all like different things so it's a matter of personal choice really. Key for me is functionality/responsiveness. It's no good if the interface gets in the way no matter how good it looks.
Off to read some reviews of roms on here now. I'll check out t.i.r element v5 as suggested by agent1001 first.
dude, stop fretting and just try out as many ROMs as you can...and remember to search and read a LOT! it will help in the long run to build your concepts.
i have TWO more suggestions/clarifications for you:
1. you might have big fingers, but what i suspect is that you are using your device as if it has a capacitive screen...which it doesn't. the kaiser (like many htc phones) has a resistive screen. essentially, what this means is that the screen will respond best with a good amount of pressure, applied at a point. so the best suggestion i can give you that will tremendously improve your experience with the device is...use your finger NAILS! the effect is as if you are using a stylus and once you get used to it, any "GUI" will become usable.
2. what you call a "GUI" is not a GUI, technically. this is what chumleyex was alluding to. these "GUIs" run as today screen plugins. they are just that...they are "today screen plugins"...also called "home screen" in other contexts of discussion. you can have many such plugins installed on your device. you can even have many such plugins running at once on your today screen. however, some take over the today screen completely, so you can only use them exclusively. manila2d/manila3d, spb mobile shell, and quite a few others are such kinds of today screen plugins. installing multiple such plugins only takes up storage space. RUNNING multiple such plugins is like running many applications at once...which will consume memory and may slow down the phone, etc, etc.
as always, you should have read the forum rules...which clearly state that "best of" threads or "suggest me a <insert requirement here>" style threads are against the forum rules. which leads me to believe that you probably haven't read the other "stickies" and "wikis" either. start there and then you'll find yourself asking a lot less basic questions that clutter up the forum. don't be surprised if this thread is closed soon by a forum mod. cheers.
Thanks ASCIIker - screen is more responsive with more pressure. Guess I was worried about cracking it.
I did do loads of reading before posting - mainly to do with how to, hard spl, soft spl, roms, radio threads. Sorry if I missed the bit about asking for recommendations.
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I don't want to find I start running low on resources so I was contemplating flashing the phone with a wm6.5 lite version with all the MS bloatware removed and adding a launcher/today screen manager afterwards. At least this way if I don't like a particular one I could un-install that.
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I get the feeling that you think those fancy things in full custom ROMs are taking up space. they are not. and not using them, disabling them, or deleting shortcuts from start menu would do the same as uninstalling.
you've got:
flash memory - (ROM)
int. memory - think about it as HDD: depends, typicaly little over 100MB
RAM, operating memory, like on PC another 100MB: to be used by progs.
those names differs, to add confusion, some refers to int.memory as ROM
MS bloatware & fancy stuff from custom ROMs which you don't want could still rest in peace in ROM and not bothering you. you'll still have your 100MB int.mem. And as long as they are not actively running you still will have 100 RAM and no processor power used. but exactly like mentioned every plugin on today screen means it's running too. get an fdc task manager or alternative to see all processes and other stuff running. (not just tasks) You can find a way to disable nearly everything.
I have no option to remove touchflo.
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I don't think there is any. even with ultra lite, i could be mistaken with this, but i tried hard and it looks like it's part of required htc drivers. so you only could disable it...at least! i hated it too no matter about fingers. it seems better on htc pro2 anyway.
But for now I keep looking at the roms and reading the comments until I find one I like the look of.
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yep, the look would be the main difference i'll say.
but if you want functionality/responsiveness, than you probably better stick with using start button and today screen without unnecessary additions.
* installing on SD card means it will go much slower and (at least on my kaiser) will sometime create errors on card from crashed apps and when I dropped phone or it died w/o shutdown or when contacts on SD card get loosed. many times I even lost complete SD contents.
You have 100MB of int.mem!! it would love to be used by progs.
I suggest you to try all of available and up-to-date custom ROMs then after getting an idea of what is doing what, just mix your own rom. it's a matter of check-in what you want inside basically. and you can add your own stuff too. like programs you buy or are not in any ROM. I have over 110MB of programs fitted in ROM and still 100MB int.mem. and speed of the device and ram is not affected too, because i let only 3 - 4 apps from that running in background.
Well I've tried flashing it and had to visit the toilet as things didn't go well.
I flashed with a lite rom, plan being to leave enough free space on the device to install a nice front end/today screen/touchflo etc to the device when I settled on one I liked.
Rom flashed fine - quite like it.
Radio didn't go well. Got stuck at the dreaded tri coloured screen.
Mtty.exe didn't recover it either.
Visited toilet.
Flashed back to standard rom from manufacturer. All now back up and running.
Have changed underpants.
At least I was able to use the info on here to get it back up and running OK.
Problem was a write error flashing the suggested radio - at 99% got an error 226.
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plan being to leave enough free space on the device to install
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check my previous post.
try flashing from SD card, a lot of troubles with cable/pc/connector
format small (256MB) SD card with FAT32,
rename ruu_signed.nbh file to KAISIMG.NBH place on root of SD
hold camera button and start or reset pda
I think to be honest I'm a little paranoid about keeping the device memory free. The reason is my wife has an O2 Orbit which was running wm5. It has been updated to WM6 and she has very little free storage memory at all on the device to the point where we have struggled getting some programs installed. I know most give you the option to install to storage card or device, but some don't. Also the ones that do install on the storage card often put some files onto the device, such as help or configuration files.
I know this HTC has a lot more memory so it probably isn't an issue in reality.
I'm up to speed about the different types of memory and whether an app is consuming processing power or just storage space depending upon if it running or not. I just didn't have a chance to read your reply before I posted- wife wanted the PC back. And I was relieved just to have the phone back working.
Papo - thanks for you help. Really appreciate it.
I had my tilt for 2 years and never worried about memory.
OK, flashed the phone a couple of times yesterday and I've now found a rom I like a lot. Even the GUI - touchflo - works like a dream and with the programs that came with the rom I can even customise it how I like. It's smooth, quick and I am yet to discover a bug.
I'll give it a run for a couple of weeks and if I decide to keep this then I'll donate.
Interestingly I flashed back to stock rom from T Mobile through links I found on here. Worked without a problem, provided a 6ft+ 16stone bloke is happy with everything in pink. So I then flashed back to the standard HTC rom wm6.1 and had lots of problems. Basic things like selecting tick boxes didn't even work well.
I understand that everyone wants different things from their phones, how they look etc and that is why it is impossible to say which rom is best. But through this site, I have a customised phone that runs so smooth and quickly and looks damn smart. So at the moment I am well chuffed.
The only really difficulty I encountered was I lost all my contacts. Activesync wouldn't restore them and the backup I took was incomplete as I only backed up the sim and not the phone. D'oh. Anyway I've now sorted this out as I found all the old contacts in outlook deleted items. I restored them back to the contacts folder and synced them again and it's all now back up and running.
Off to have a play
If she lets me I may even flash the wifes O2 Orbit XDA. It's been upgraded from wm5 to wm6 and the new rom leaves very little free memory on the device itself and we do struggle at times getting some software onto it. The version of TomTom I have doesn't let you choose where to install it to, it just goes onto the device. I have manually moved it back to the SD card and made new shortcuts etc, but I feel a new rom from this site would be the way to go.
Thank you to all who helped me.
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difficulty I encountered was I lost all my contacts. Activesync wouldn't restore them
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activeSync & outlook played tricks on me too, deleting or doubling all contacts... even easier than backing up by backup program, is to copy 'RAW' database in pda before re-flashing. it's all in one file called PIM.VOL in root of phone. calendar is there as well. you can copy this to SD and upon reflashing copy back to root of pda and see what PC's outlook will have to say to it. or just keep on SD as 2nd backup.
note, the file may be locked by running programs (contacts, messages, home plugin) kill them from taskman in that case.
The version of TomTom I have doesn't let you choose where to install it to, it just goes onto the device.
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tomtom app is two files tomtom nav.exe and data.chk, put them anywhere you like and the rest, config files, will be created by it.
but it runs really slow from SD. and taking 13MB, so again, it's best to have them in ROM.