Dear mods
I cant beleive the petition for omnia forum has been closed, the forum was for fair discussion and debate any wrong users or hostile users should have been punished personally but instead ive had a well meaning poll closed down before it had a chance to voice it opinions, i understand the mods issues with some of the writers but why should we all be penolised as a result, the thread was a chance for the omnia users to ask politely for an omnia forum rathetr than a colective bunch of fools posting everywhere. im sorry i find myself writing this as i thort the mods should have been decent enough to close the thread after the petition had been answered directly, i know this isnt a democracy but it is getting a ridiculous
regards
The discussion is closed,
Last week the answer was NO...
Yesterday the answer was NO...
Today the answer is NO...
Tomorrow the answe will still be NO...
Next week (month, year, etc) the answer will remain NO...
it was a petition it should have been closed until an administator answered the question or cracked under requests
Respectfully
Please do not start all over again with this theme
Mods & Admins made it clear since a long time ago...
this is just a space-mb-thread waste
Please Mods close this one also
no the petition was supposed to ba a discussion thread, the people who were *****es should have been punished personally
Question asked and answered. No more need for discussion.
Thread closed.
like the title,is the 23053 ROM have the sms problem like the 23049? it can't receive the sms mail when turn off the screen.
any body can ask me about this?thanks
here's the answer
thank you for your answer.
may be i am a new guy in this forum.so something i don't know yet.so thank you your ask.
but:
10. Help others if you can.
If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
Dont answer this ignorant person, its obvious you havent read the forum rules
yes.i don't read the forum rules. and i don't know have it too.i a new people for this forum.
but i don't damn the forum rules.i just want to ask you forum rules have this one rules. help everybody who need to help.
i am a ignorant person? if you are a ingnorant person,i think you won't wated your time to discuss this no about the mobile question.you will go to ask the question if have somebody need answer.
The fact is you question has been answered a thousand times before and you need to search
if you answer me this,that i'll so thanks for you answer.because i'm a new people.new to this forum. so,for your last answer,i thank you.
but you all answer before,it is likt to ask me,i can't ask any question in this forum, and i must be a senior member when i am joinning this forum.know everything.
being new and having questions is no excuse, if everyone started a thread for every question they had it would turn into chaos.... dont be lazy, read read read, search and follow the rules!
but the forum have too much question.i just search it one time.no body have been post the 23053 ROM question and answer about 23053 ROM SMS. if have the same as my question and answer before,pls show me the address.i think that is your best work. and tell me to see the forum rules and learn it next time.
this is the real helpful for me and the other have same quetion people.no just tell to search and learn the rules.if i know how to do you,i won't post this quetion. if you can let me know about my question answer,pls tell me.and tell me how to do if i have the question too next time. no just tell me how to do next time and tell me i am a ignorant person. you want to joke me or help me and other new people?
the xet member answer me install the tweak and setup it will be OK.i had try,it's really good. so if somebody had the same problem as me.pls install tweak and setup.
today say too much.but just xet the answer is to my question.thanks
ok guys calm down.
First off @ it1861 - Try and abide by forum rules and search before creating a new thread. Yes, you are correct, the rules do say to try and help others when they ask a question. But you have to understand a lt of questions get asked countless times and people lose their patience when others don't search. Obviously they shouldn't lose their cool but instead should direct you to previous thread, and remind you of forum rules before a mod comes and closes thread.
Secondly @ shruff - Everyone has been a noob at some point including myself and it can be hard at first to navigate site. Please treat others with repsect and the way you would like to be treated. No need to lose your cool, just report thread and a mod will come and assist when available.
Thread closed
Hopefully this catches the eyes of those who need to read it most...
Too many people are trying to take the easy road and post a new thread on a subject or idea, usually asking a question about something that has already been answered instead of doing a simple search!
I've been a member here for a couple years now and haven't needed to post very much because, if you take the time, the information is out there. 99.9% of the time, you aren't the first person to ask a question, have a problem, or hit a wall.
If you're having trouble doing something that was posted in a thread, POST YOUR QUESTION IN THAT THREAD!!
It seems as though there are a lot of newbies who are anxious to root their Inc, which is fine: If you pay attention, read the instructions and most of the thread before you begin, and follow them to a T . Every time I have a problem either rooting or installing a ROM or something else, I am the one who did something wrong.
Some of you are probably new to the Thread concept, which is also fine. It's very frustrating getting used to how they work, and learning the "right" way to do things- but trust me, it's worth it.
Posting a new thread is like standing on a chair in the middle of a crowded room and screaming out a question. If your in the wrong room (i.e. wrong section), people are going to be upset. If the question was already answered by another group (i.e. another forum), people are also going to be upset. If you aren't sure if you should start a new thread, you probably shouldn't.
Take the time and READ THE RULES! Here they are if you don't know where to find them:
New forum rules, please read!
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
2. Member conduct.
2.1 Language: XDA is a worldwide community. As a result what is ‘ok’ to say in your part of the world may not be ok in someone else’s part of the world. Please think about who is reading what you write. Keep in mind that what you think of as acceptable use of language may not be acceptable to others. Conversely, while reading member posts, remember that word you find offensive may not be to the writer. Tolerance is a two way street.
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2.3 Flaming: XDA was founded as a group of people sharing information about certain mobile phones. Sharing does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) it does involve working together to solve problems in an environment of mutual respect and understanding. Losing your temper and flaming another member, or group of members, is not acceptable behavior.
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2.5 New Members: Treat new members the way you would have liked to have been treated when you were a new member. Provide the new members with guidance, advice and instruction always with respect and courtesy.
2.6 All members are expected to read and adhere to the XDA rules.
3. Post only using a clear subject and message.
You're most likely to receive a helpful answer to your question if you use a short subject title that describes your problem and a message that explains in detail what your problem is and what you've tried to solve it.
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We understand that with all the different nationalities not everyone speaks English well, but please try. If you're really unable to post in English use an online translator, You're free to include your original message in your own language below the English translation.
5. Post a message only once.
As a large forum we don't need unnecessary clutter, You're free to edit your message as you like, so if you do not receive an answer revisit your message and see if you can describe your problem better. Not everyone is online at the same time, it might take a while before you receive an answer.
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If a piece of software requires you to pay to use it, either pay or find your cracks and serials somewhere else. We do not accept warez nor do we permit any member to promote or describe ways in which Warez, cracks, serial codes or other means of avoiding payment, can be obtained.
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If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
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If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, you MUST first seek their permission, and you must give credit to the member whose work you used. If a dispute occurs about who developed / created a piece of work, first try to settle the matter by private message and NOT in open forum. If this fails then you may contact a moderator with clear evidence that the work was created by you.
Convincing evidence will result in copied work being removed. If there is no clear evidence you created the work then in the spirit of sharing all work will remain posted on the forums.
These rules apply to all software posted on XDA unless that software comes with a license that waives these rules.
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So instead of starting a new thread like "How do I.." or "Where do I" or "Why can't I..." Do a search of the threads, Google it, or even hop on over to PPC Geeks, Trust me- you'll find the answers you're looking for.
BTW - Thanks to Mikey1022 for moderating
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I wish people had to read this before they could post new threads. This forum seems to be worse than most of the other android forums on xda... not sure why.
Everyone who disagrees with this should check out the nexus one forum to get an idea of how lax things are here.
You better watch it. Some people may take offense to this. people also have to be aware when they do make a new thread that it is in the correct section. Too many questions are being posted in Development instead of General. Let's keep the sections on topic so people can find what they came looking for.
I agree, but I can see the other side as well.
The "Root process" thread is up to 108 pages. Sure, searching helps, but you are still poring over pages and pages of forums for hours. I kind of learned that this was the buy-in from my WinMo days, but that doesn't make it less frustrating.
One advantage to sticking to existing threads, however, is that people who are successful will probably post back to that thread, with any variations they used, whereas they are less likely to post to a new thread.
Calibob2001 said:
Hopefully this catches the eyes of those who need to read it most...
Too many people are trying to take the easy road and post a new thread on a subject or idea, usually asking a question about something that has already been answered instead of doing a simple search!
I've been a member here for a couple years now and haven't needed to post very much because, if you take the time, the information is out there. 99.9% of the time, you aren't the first person to ask a question, have a problem, or hit a wall.
If you're having trouble doing something that was posted in a thread, POST YOUR QUESTION IN THAT THREAD!!
It seems as though there are a lot of newbies who are anxious to root their Inc, which is fine: If you pay attention, read the instructions and most of the thread before you begin, and follow them to a T . Every time I have a problem either rooting or installing a ROM or something else, I am the one who did something wrong.
Some of you are probably new to the Thread concept, which is also fine. It's very frustrating getting used to how they work, and learning the "right" way to do things- but trust me, it's worth it.
Posting a new thread is like standing on a chair in the middle of a crowded room and screaming out a question. If your in the wrong room (i.e. wrong section), people are going to be upset. If the question was already answered by another group (i.e. another forum), people are also going to be upset. If you aren't sure if you should start a new thread, you probably shouldn't.
Take the time and READ THE RULES! Here they are if you don't know where to find them:
So instead of starting a new thread like "How do I.." or "Where do I" or "Why can't I..." Do a search of the threads, Google it, or even hop on over to PPC Geeks, Trust me- you'll find the answers you're looking for.
BTW - Thanks to Mikey1022 for moderating
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How much time did you spend writing this? No ones going to pay attention.
Calibob2001 said:
Hopefully this catches the eyes of those who need to read it most...
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You know they won't. The ones who post these repeated topics are the ones who freak out when they're lost, post a topic, and hit refresh all day instead of looking for the answer. The only ones who actually read this are the ones already pissed off about it.
barry1685 said:
How much time did you spend writing this? No ones going to pay attention.
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LOL, I didn't even read it. Just scrolled to through the comments
bluetooth_decay said:
I agree, but I can see the other side as well.
The "Root process" thread is up to 108 pages. Sure, searching helps, but you are still poring over pages and pages of forums for hours. I kind of learned that this was the buy-in from my WinMo days, but that doesn't make it less frustrating.
One advantage to sticking to existing threads, however, is that people who are successful will probably post back to that thread, with any variations they used, whereas they are less likely to post to a new thread.
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There are so many pages of topics because of the issue that is being described. There is a very handy function called "search" that, while not perfect, at least narrows results down for you. You can search within a Section, Topic or down to a single thread for key words.
Odds are, if you are on here you know how to navigate the web. If you can't perform a basic search in a topic or thread then please don't try to root your phone or follow any instructions to change, modify or "hack" anything.
As was brought out by [OP], if you WANT to do something that you think will be useful to you, read up on it. If you do run into an issue, search the key word of your issue. Entering "boot loop", "frozen", "Error message 123" will return something to help you find your answer. Odds are, you are not alone and, if you find you are alone, return to the thread where you were following instructions to do whatever it was you want to do and post a reply describing your issues. [OP] or others who are familiar with the process will help. Patience is a must.
barry1685 said:
How much time did you spend writing this? No ones going to pay attention.
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Far too long than I care to admit - My first draft was rather angry and the overtone has calmed quite a bit...
And even if ONE newbie reads it and gleans even a whisper of insight as to how to operate the forums, then I have been 100% successful- even if 1% of those who read it take this to heart, at this point, that's still 2 fewer Threads the moderators have to close down...
Trust me, no matter what you try to do, you cannot stop people from reposting over and over.
Trust me, no matter what forum I'm at, it's the same thing over and over. It ruins it for us that actually read stuff and search for a while before asking, but such is life.
Infact if you'd search you'd see that there are multiple threads of this nature all over every forum...I know I've seen quite a few on XDA alone.
codybear said:
Infact if you'd search you'd see that there are multiple threads of this nature all over every forum...I know I've seen quite a few on XDA alone.
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So are you saying the op didn't take his own advice?
BTW I am glad someone changed the title of this thread as no one is going to respect your opinion when you start off that way.
On a side note I am new to this forum but from my experience thus far it has been very underwhelming. I made one thread and had issues with posters coming off as elitists. I don't know how modding gets done around here but until people can be civil this will always be a secondary place for me to post about Android news and the Droid Incredible.
I expected more from an XDA forum.
Hand76 said:
So are you saying the op didn't take his own advice?
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What he's saying is that there are a lot of people who don't read the Forum rules and post new threads without doing a little research to figure things out for themselves. If you need help figuring things out, that's fine- but don't expect other people to do your leg work for you.
Hand76 said:
On a side note I am new to this forum but from my experience thus far it has been very underwhelming. I made one thread and had issues with posters coming off as elitists. I don't know how modding gets done around here but until people can be civil this will always be a secondary place for me to post about Android news and the Droid Incredible.
I expected more from an XDA forum.
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I looked up your thread, and honestly I found the answer to both of your questions with a very simple Google search- These are the threads that frustrate members most. There is already a thread that addresses everything from unlocking to removing apps and it's HERE, or better yet, you can look HERE for a list of safe apps to remove and how to remove them... This is where your questions should probably be, not in a new thread.
There are a lot of helpful, knowledgeable people here, you just gotta learn to follow the rules...
Calibob2001 said:
and honestly I found the answer to both of your questions with a very simple Google search
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So you suggest doing a google search instead of coming to these forums for an answer?
Calibob2001 said:
There is already a thread that addresses everything from unlocking to removing apps and it's HERE, or better yet, you can look HERE for a list of safe apps to remove and how to remove them... This is where your questions should probably be, not in a new thread.
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The first thread you linked to is a root thread that covers every topic under the sun. So according to you we should just have one thread on this entire forum and no one should post anything outside of it.
The second thread you linked to I posted in and got 1 answer but many other questions were unanswered.
Still you are coming off as a complete elitist and I don't know why this thread is stickied when on most other forums this would have been locked, especially with the condescending way you started things off.
That is just my two cents.
tl;dr
firstly the rules are already out there: dont repost them asking people not to repost
secondly people do search, but you cant expect everyone to get the search terms right all the time and find what they want. also there are a lot of questions that may sound similar but are not. most of the folks on xda are good people who are trying to get answers and are not purposeful spamming douchebags, so stop the whining and dont read threads you dont want to.
[Q] Why is everyone posting into the Development section?
it's so extremely annoying, having to filter through tons of junk posts that should be in Q&A or General instead of actual Development question
if this goes one might suggest to enable the option "By Invite Only"
so that only Dev people will can access it, and other XDA members can access it only if invited by a Dev.
The answer to your question is several fold:
- First, some people don't read and/or don't care where they post.
- Second, there are some that think that the Development section is the only place to get answers to questions when that section is for Rom Development only and any closely linked technical conversations revolving around that topic.
- Third, which appears to applies to new users in particular, they google externally to the XDA site for an answer to a problem, their search results drop them straight into the Rom Development forum, they don't quite find what they are looking for and then proceed to post a question where it does not belong.
Our moderators work very hard to keep the fora tidy; however if people will not support that activity by posting in the right place then we end up fighting a losing battle.
I have 3 suggestions to help improve the situation:
- First, that you report any threads that are in the wrong fora so we can move them.
- Second, you all take time out to educate offenders yourselves, especially repeat offenders, on the benefits of posting in the right place.
- Third, people get into the habit of posting in the right fora first time and, whenever required, use google search to see if their question has already been posted and resolved BEFORE posting another thread.
I hope this is helpful.
Kind regards,
WB (XDA Moderating Team)
Do we have enough moderators or need more. I moderate on another forum and would be happy to throw my towel in if needed.
same, previously Mod of the now defund mytreo.net and, legit FlyFF USA MMORPG and some other lesser known forums.
the only problem of being a Mod, you have less time for everything else
Gents/Ladies,
Good quality people with a mature, adult approach to life, good decision making skills,an open mind, conflict management skills, a proven track record of positive help and support of this community and, above all, a great deal of common sense, are always welcome.
We have over 2 million users on here and an awful lot of fora so think carefully before you commit yourselves. However if I have failed to frighten you off please feel free to pm me and we can take it from there.
We have a defined process that we go through. Please be aware that an application does not guarantee that you will be accepted.
WB
PS: We undertook a massive cleaning exercise yesterday in the development forum. You should find it a lot cleaner than it was yesterday.
We still need your help to spot items that should not be in there and report them. We also need you to help implement the suggestions in my post above.
WB
If you are about to make a new question thread please consider the following things.
Follow the rules.
Because your thread is going to be posted at questions and answers section it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t obey the rules. Every thread/post inside xda forum must be posted according to the rules.
You can find the rules here.
Don’t panic.
If you are panicked and trembling in fear take some deep breaths, take your time and clear your mind, being calm may guaranty an answer to your question. It will sure help you to accept the truth in case your problem can’t be solved.
Search.
This is the best way to get your answer. Your question maybe have been already answered. Seriously, instead of waiting 3 days for a reply to your thread you may be able to get an answer in 5 minutes. Our beloved forum provide as a very helpful tool, the search button.
You searched the forum but nothing? Try again with different key words.
Still nothing?
Try to search on google.
So you found something but you don’t understand the terms that it’s using, google them, I’m sure you will get your answer.
So, you didn’t find anything helpful. You can proceed on making a new thread.
Make sure that you are posting at the right sub-forum.
In our case make sure you have indeed a Galaxy S Advance.
Things are simple, if you don’t own an S Advance and post your question about another phone you will just don’t get any answer and furthermore there is a high possibility of your thread being spammed with posts like “facepalm, this section is for the S Advance”,”dude are you drunk” and such things.
If it happened to make a thread in a wrong sub-forum/section the only way to move it is by kindly pm a moderator or by reporting your thread and ask for a moving.
Your question must be posted at the Q&A.
If you don’t know whether you must post your question at general (Galaxy S Advance I9070 General) or Q&A (Galaxy S Advance I9070 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting) section just post it at the Q&A, all question threads must be posted there.
Bump existing threads.
Some questions just don’t require a new thread.
But, make sure your question is similar to the thread’s you are reviving. Don’t use threads that are for an entire different question. Its up to your judgment to decide what thread is suitable for bumping.
Think about your question.
Don’t be overwhelming, take your time and think about what way is the most suitable to post your question.
Use English.
Before starting typing your thread make sure you are writing in English.
You don’t know how to speak English or you can’t write in English that well?
Don’t worry there is a chance that your question will be answered, if you have read the rules you already know that you can post your question at your native language but its important to add a translation to English. “How to do this?” use google translator, google translator maybe wont provide an accurate translation but it will translate most of the words, and you add the post in your native language as well, because someone from the same country can help you or he can translate in detail what you posted.
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4. Use the English language.
We understand that with all the different nationalities not everyone speaks English well, but please try. If you're really unable to post in English use an online translator, You're free to include your original message in your own language below the English translation.
Add a good title.
Every thread in order to be posted must have a title. Be smart, add an attractive one, this way more people will view your thread.
Your title must contain your problem in short words, if this can’t be done add a title that partially describe it, don’t add titles like “HELP”, Heeeeeeeeeeeeelp”, ”read”, ”null”.
Also add [Q] at your title.
Describe as much as possible.
90% percent of whether your problem will be solved, depends on your question.
Describe in detail your problem.
You may add the followings:
Are you rooted?
What’s your baseband?
What rom are you using?
What kernel are you using?
Have you flashed any mods/scripts/themes?
Have you done anything to try to solve your issue?
Add pictures if necessary.
Do you think that these informations aren’t needed? They are.
Members of this forum don’t use telepathy; you have to tell them what you have done.
Things you may avoid in your post.
Don’t ask “What’s the best ____”(rom, kernel, theme etc)
Don’t ask something before searching.
Be specific. Don’t write way too big or way too small posts.
Don’t be rude.
Wait patiently for answers.
Don’t pm random guys asking for help.
Don’t spam your question in multiple threads/posts.
Participate in your thread.
Answer kindly any possible question that you have being asked by those who are trying to help you.
Be kind to everyone.
Make them understand what you need/asking.
In any case don’t abandon your thread, people maybe want to know if at last you were able to solve your problem and what way did you follow.
Be grateful.
Thank everyone who helped you, sometimes those who didn’t really helped you may be great help (“in what way?” keeping your thread alive, helping rejecting way of solving and more…), so be grateful to them too.
Important general notes.
Be polite. Nobody will help you if you don’t have good attitude.
Be organized.
Don’t constantly bump your thread. As you problem remain unsolved, I think it’s okay if you bump your thread once a week but you may have problems with the mods if you overdoing it.
Don’t pm random guys.
Don’t demand things, nobody is forced to help you.
That’s it, I hope your problem will be solved.
If you have any comment or correction or suggestion please notify me by sending me a pm.
Thanks.