I have started this thread so that we can document some intresting behavior of third party software under our WM5 Build. As well as WM5 Behavior.
We need to be fair as we all know that the WM5 version that we have has not been released and some software might work on WM5 but has not been built for it.
I have called it Buggy and maybe that is not a good choice of words, however maybe it is.
So if you wrote the software it was not my or any other person who posts here intention to clam that its is your software or even WM5 that is buggy.
Fact is somehow something is wrong.
I hope that owners of Offical versions of WM5 Can verify if they have found the same issues.
Resco Explorer 2005 V 5.21
Resco Explorer 2005 V 5.21
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_WM5_Buggy_software
I use 5.13 and it works fine...
NiceStart. It doesn't work at all when the PPC's turned on - I only get the WM5 password screen. Then again I don't need it anymore since the SMS messages don't turn on the unit, they just send the sound, a big improvement!
1-Pass Version 1.1.1
1-Pass is a nice application that allows you to lock your device and be able to enter it either by using preset hardware key combinations or a numaric password.
I have used this back with rom 1.06 and like it.
It seems that it conflicts with the built in appliacton password found under
Start -> settings -> Password
They both seem to use the same space as when you configure I-Pass for a password you also set the Password application.
Thus after a reboot or sleep mode you are confronted with the Password application screen and can not use the I-pass screen. Hardware keys that you set can not be used. (thus you need to finger around and enter the numeric password.
Documeted screen shots
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_WM5_Buggy_software
Hey Guys!
There's just one "bug" that really anoys me:
On startup (after device was in standby for a longer time) WM 5.0 needs some time to react. I think, this is no problem of software but of storage. This thought seems to be right, because the more storage the today Pluginns need, the longer it takes until it reacts. I have uninstalled PocketPlus, because it takes up to 4 (!) seconds on restart. Can you copy that?
Nope, I don't have that problem. I have PocketPlus without any meters, only a few icons and the taskbar battery monitor. I remember I read somewhere here that if you use any of the meters, especially storage meters, it will take time.
Bejewelled 2 doesn't install saying that my version of Windows Mobile is too old... :shock:
Also the O2 Application Software supplied with the XDAs doesn't install either, so no ZIP or fax software
Resco Explorer 5.15 works fine though... so I won't upgrade :roll:
I can not change the theme of my desktop on WM5, even if i select the theme from SpbPocketPlus, it doesn't change.
Related
wot software do u have on ur xda IIi that u recommends we get.
regards
tomtom navigator 5 ,i can't live without it
Pocket Plus 3 by SPB
Resco Explorer
Tomtom 5.21
TCPMP media player
Pocket RAR
Nicestart password utility.
and last but not least IIWPO.
All of which I've cooked into the extended rom.
cooked into your rom ,
hi pug ,i've just been reading what softwear you've got on your xda11i and it says you've cooked them into your extended rom ,would it be possible to try and explain what you mean and how you do it thx
pug said:
Pocket Plus 3 by SPB
Resco Explorer
Tomtom 5.21
TCPMP media player
Pocket RAR
Nicestart password utility.
and last but not least IIWPO.
All of which I've cooked into the extended rom.
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wot is that?
@ Scooby
There are several was of doing it, by far the easiest is using BAL666's method. Do a search for his name and you'll find it, eventually.
@ Sexiali
Nicestart is a password utility which offers a skinable password screen as well an enhanced security such as access history logging, locking on a set number of faied attempts, mapping hardware buttons to numbers etc. It looks better too.
nice
pug said:
Nicestart is a password utility which offers a skinable password screen as well an enhanced security such as access history logging, locking on a set number of faied attempts, mapping hardware buttons to numbers etc. It looks better too.
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Pug,
The photo you included along with this posting of your PDA with the black and lightning, is that screen setup through one of the piece of software you mention, through Nicestart or somthing else?
To be honest I can't remember where the image came from, I think it was through the setup program. Definately not an extra skin off their website. I'll have a look through my archives as I've been using an Exec for the last 6 months and it would have been a long time before that since I modded my extended ROM on the Alpine, which I don't own anymore sorry. Watch this space.
where i can find tomtom 5.21 navigator to install my tsm500
Summiter, I reflashed for the 4th time and am still having the problem so here goes:
I flashed using the newest rom thatyou listed in your other post.
Rom Version: 2.17.7.2 WWE
Rom Date: 2/10/06
Radio Version: 02.07.10
Protocol Version: 413.1.03
Programs installed:
Splashdata SplashBlog for PocketPC
My Company PPCDJ
TranCreative Magic Button
Agilemobile.com Agile Messanger
Resco Registry Add-in
Resco FTP Add-in
Resco Explorer 2003
Zoki A2DP
FdcSoft PPCContactsMgr
ammar Wireless Today Plugin
Smartskey
This is what happens:
When my phone comes back from standby or even at random times, but specifically standby, If i press the mail button, the title bar appears along with the softkeys changing as if it opened up the messaging application. However the background is still the today screen or whatever was under it. If i exit out of it through magic button or smartskey it goes away then i can hit it again and it comes back.
I have set up cingular ispda and gmail, i havent done any registry hacks. This is far less than what ive run the last few times this has happened.
It's annoying but i can live with it if you tell me i have to. Thanks for your help with all this.
I can almost guarantee it is being caused by one of the programs you have installed. This doesn't sound like a ROM issue.
I can go one step further. I have had this occur on every ROM I have used. If memory serves it was the most infrequent on the imate 2.16 ROM. From your list we only have the 2.17 ExtROM and Resco in common, but I don't think either of those cause this. Unfortunately, I don't think any ROM flash will eliminate it completely.
actually the software loaded is all different for this reflash. i didnt use any of these the last flash.
i have the same probl;em with my my mail button...the title bar changes and the today screen stays the same...it bothered me at first but i just tap onthe messages tab on the today screen and it takes me to my messages, i dont even notice anymore.
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Uninstall the Ammar Today Screen app and see if that changes things.
S
The same thing happens to me. I'm running the latest summiter rom, and I just got the motorola stereo bluetooth headphones and the a2dp works flawlessly and the device is stable, but the mail button gives me title bar and softkeys but I still see Today screen. If I tap the mail line on the screen all is well. I have spb pocket plus, pocket weather, smartskeys, memmaid, quotrek, netfront 3.3 trial.
i removed ammar and it still happens.
Also my calls disconnect after 5 minutes and my ring tone stutters and doesnt vibrate when i get a call in standby.
Hi there
Does anyone else use SPB Pocket Plus (latest version V4.0.2 - Dec 07) and WM6.1 and suffer the annoying problem where the today plugin icons don't pickup correctly after a reset?
It's easily fixed by clicking to refresh all tabs, but surely it shouldn't do it???
I'm also suffering a problem whereby not all text messages are received by my phone. (I posted in the General section with no joy - am hoping that you software guys may know if something conflicts?!) It's very strange as the phone lights up as if a text is coming through, then nothing happens. I've tried a Hard Reset and restore to no avail.
Wierd thing is, my mate has a Kaiser on Vodafone UK (V1615) running WM6.0 and he has the same problem - I'm on O2-UK so it's not a carrier problem.
I set his Kaiser up for him with much the same software as mine, including SPB PocketPlus V4.0.2...
I also (I know, I'm sorry!) have a problem with the today screen if I change things... For example, if I change the backdrop via Pictures and Video's, more often than not the phone will hang requiring a stylus reset. Am wondering if this is SPB PocketPlus related???
Any idea's? (Sorry about the multi questions!!)
Cheers
sorry about the double post!
p.dixon0 said:
Hi there
Does anyone else use SPB Pocket Plus (latest version V4.0.2 - Dec 07) and WM6.1 and suffer the annoying problem where the today plugin icons don't pickup correctly after a reset?
It's easily fixed by clicking to refresh all tabs, but surely it shouldn't do it???
I'm also suffering a problem whereby not all text messages are received by my phone. (I posted in the General section with no joy - am hoping that you software guys may know if something conflicts?!) It's very strange as the phone lights up as if a text is coming through, then nothing happens. I've tried a Hard Reset and restore to no avail.
Wierd thing is, my mate has a Kaiser on Vodafone UK (V1615) running WM6.0 and he has the same problem - I'm on O2-UK so it's not a carrier problem.
I set his Kaiser up for him with much the same software as mine, including SPB PocketPlus V4.0.2...
I also (I know, I'm sorry!) have a problem with the today screen if I change things... For example, if I change the backdrop via Pictures and Video's, more often than not the phone will hang requiring a stylus reset. Am wondering if this is SPB PocketPlus related???
Any idea's? (Sorry about the multi questions!!)
Cheers
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As far as the PocketPlus, I am using it and I haven't had a problem at all with the icons or anything else for that matter. I haven't had any problems with the txt msgs either. You may need to reset the mms server?? I don't know about that, I just remember reading about it in another thread somewhere... As for the backdrop change, that's not a pocket plus related conflict. I am not sure what else you have installed, but I have changed mine multiple times in the past 2 days and haven't had a single problem or anything that told me I had reset or that I needed to soft reset the phone. I would suggest unistalling the Pocket Plus and reinstalling it. I know that I have had to do that before because of one of the other SPB proggies i used had changed some values in the registry for it. Otherwise, I would contact SPB, they would know how to fix it. Unless you didn't purchase it...
Hi Killerbeans!
I'v tried uninstalling and re-installing a couple of times to no avail unfortunately
The only other things I have installed (all bought and paid for!) that startup with the phone are SKTools (set to performance optimisation) and Kasperski AntiVirus...
I might try uninstalling those and SPB and reinstalling them one by one...
Cheers for the response though!
I have been havng the spb problems since 6.1 installation as well (I am with AT&T in the US, original Kaiser).
Thanks for pointing out the "Refresh All Tabs" option...I have to stupidly admit that I was not aware of it and I have been fixing the icons one at at a time....very boring...However, I have no solution to offer to the problem, other than to verify that it is a real one.
Hmm running fine on my kaiser with the hyperdragon roms...
Are you using the "close button" plugin? if so, did you enter tmail.exe and poutlook.exe as exceptions? don;t doing this could lead to problems
for the icons, I have the same problems too sometimes, did you install it on main memory? are the missing icons from programs installed on storagecard?
there is an option under today plugins->advanced, "refresh icons in today plug-in when storage card is inserted." try enabling that and see if it helps
Bartus
Hi guys!
Thanks for the responses! It's 'good' to know it's not just me having the SPB problem, although not good that it's happening at all!
I've installed it on Storage Card (as I have since my Wizard days). Using SKTools I've set the SDDeamon to startup 1st so was hoping that'd sort it... it didn't
I'm glad the refresh all tabs helped!
I've added those exceptions Bartus so I'll report back! I have the refresh icons when storage card inserted already which doesn't seem to work. It is the apps located on the storage card that don't load though so it has do be something to do with that.
Go back to 4.0.1 it doesn't have the problem.
Hi Sirooga
I'll give that a try, if I still have it on my HDD!
Cheers!
p.dixon0 said:
Hi Sirooga
I'll give that a try, if I still have it on my HDD!
Cheers!
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did it work
Today Plugin Problems
I also use pocket plus on my Tilt, and it is apparently version 4.0.2 build 6227. What really annoys me is that the today plugin worked perfectly on wm 6.0, but after that &[email protected]#! 6.1 upgrade, it works fine for a few hours after I installed a lot of programs and soft resetted a bunch, until I backed up my phone. After using sprite Backup 5 ONCE, it deletes all my tabs and icons in the plugin and doesn't remember them no matter what I do. It still is checked in the today plugins menu, but it isn't there as there is nothing for it to show. SPB's got some serious work to do.
Dave
p.dixon0 said:
Hi guys!
Thanks for the responses! It's 'good' to know it's not just me having the SPB problem, although not good that it's happening at all!
I've installed it on Storage Card (as I have since my Wizard days). Using SKTools I've set the SDDeamon to startup 1st so was hoping that'd sort it... it didn't
I'm glad the refresh all tabs helped!
I've added those exceptions Bartus so I'll report back! I have the refresh icons when storage card inserted already which doesn't seem to work. It is the apps located on the storage card that don't load though so it has do be something to do with that.
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Today plug-ins shoud be installed to Main Memory.
Spb 4.01 works far better than 4.02 IMO.
XIP 31193
SYS 31193
hello im working on new version and now it is stable and working
here is link
all buttons working (red button .......)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/8ger2y
and here is video of rom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozY9aKAMy58
scroll down for screenshots
My observations:
+ damn fast
- red/power button doesn't wors as power-down button and phone toggle
- no wireless/comm manager
- some bitmaps doesn't look very well (not a big problem)
- strange names in Buttons settings
- no palm messaging (but maybe it's jus me)
At the moment I'm going back to 6.1 with palm oems, but I do really cross fingers for you and your rom. If you'll put new version soon, I'm getting it! Great work!
miloszz said:
My observations:
+ damn fast
- red/power button doesn't wors as power-down button and phone toggle
- no wireless/comm manager
- some bitmaps doesn't look very well (not a big problem)
- strange names in Buttons settings
- no palm messaging (but maybe it's jus me)
At the moment I'm going back to 6.1 with palm oems, but I do really cross fingers for you and your rom. If you'll put new version soon, I'm getting it! Great work!
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thx to u next version will be faster then this (i belive)
i need port original applications form palm wm5 to more usable on this palm
1-2 days for it
i dont like palm messaging
original is better for me
I used default messaging for a long time (so called "lite" version of 6.1)
The biggest problem for me is comm manager and power button. Accidentialy I flashed again to your rom so I'll stick with this one now, try to configure it for my needs (it's just question of few apps to cure most of "problems").
Can't wait to see next version.
Best regards.
veisen said:
thx to u next version will be faster then this (i belive)
i need port original applications form palm wm5 to more usable on this palm
1-2 days for it
i dont like palm messaging
original is better for me
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I would suggest using the Palm WM6 as a base for those apps, not wm5.
Merlyn_3D said:
I would suggest using the Palm WM6 as a base for those apps, not wm5.
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5 is better because vodafone version is bigger and slower
miloszz said:
I used default messaging for a long time (so called "lite" version of 6.1)
The biggest problem for me is comm manager and power button. Accidentialy I flashed again to your rom so I'll stick with this one now, try to configure it for my needs (it's just question of few apps to cure most of "problems").
Can't wait to see next version.
Best regards.
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uploaded version wm6.5 with palm oem programs and commmanager and some small fixes
veisen said:
uploaded version wm6.5 with palm oem programs and commmanager and some small fixes
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haven't tried the clean version, but on the new palm version, the soft menu is the old version and links like phone settings or today settings dont work. *have to use start menu*
also not able to connect to an exchange server. link to set it up in activesync seems to be dead.
red button, and wireless manager seem to work.
will check out the clean version as well.
edit: reset the phone. activesync, email, and exchange all work.
soft key bar still isn't like your first update *i assume it changed in 6.5, and this is the old version* and phone and today settings links in soft menu are still broken.
edit#2: seems the email account isn't listed in the accounts settings window. also at least one keyboard shortcut didn't work (whitebutton + P for brightness settings) i assume this has to do with the "weird" names programs have listed under buttons.
i want to update to 6.5 but is it possible to go back to orignal at&t oem rom afterward to will there be some problem....???????
help......??????????????
hartleyshc said:
haven't tried the clean version, but on the new palm version, the soft menu is the old version and links like phone settings or today settings dont work. *have to use start menu*
also not able to connect to an exchange server. link to set it up in activesync seems to be dead.
red button, and wireless manager seem to work.
will check out the clean version as well.
edit: reset the phone. activesync, email, and exchange all work.
soft key bar still isn't like your first update *i assume it changed in 6.5, and this is the old version* and phone and today settings links in soft menu are still broken.
edit#2: seems the email account isn't listed in the accounts settings window. also at least one keyboard shortcut didn't work (whitebutton + P for brightness settings) i assume this has to do with the "weird" names programs have listed under buttons.
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thx for test i repair it today
Just downloaded your rom, will let you know the details soon
Ok here is the review of this rom, the one with palm oem applications and commmanager,
Pros:
Fast and stable
Volume is better compare to 6.1
It has inbuilt mass storage driver which 6.1 lack
Shortcut are sorted in appropriate folders in start menu
Black Theme is default, which is very good
Display is better compare to 6.1
There are 2 flavour of Wmplayer
Comm Manager is now full functional
And More............
Cons:
Instead of green light to show the network now its showing orange,
Vibrate is not working
There is slight jerk in display while changing screen from one program to another
There is no Call screen, Mean when you are answering a call or had dialed a call you want be able to see the duration of the call.
Hi there, thank you very much for your great work. I have a quick question: My Treo has a German (QWERTZ) keyboard, will it be detected somehow?, or the ROM will asume its a QWERTY keyboard. I don't mind the OS being in English, that would even be better, is there a quick way to patch the ROM to make it work with the QWERTZ keyboard?
Thank you so much in advance.
About in call screen. It's all around ActiveCall and DialLookup plugins. Maybe changing some registry values will fix it (I had similar situations once and editing some registry solved my problems). Tomorrow I'll compare some of my keyes with working wm6.
-If your syncing to an Exchange server, the Manage Folders function does not work to be able to select addition folders.
-blank HTCSETTINGS icon under System.. appears to do nothing
- 2 PHONE apps under Personal settings. Different functions, but named the same
- There is something off with trying to go into Messages from the Today screen. Takes a few clicks to actually make it work. It doesn't do it everytime.
That's all I found for the moment.. obviously WLAN option does nothing on mine
I've noticed one more thing: there's no "white dot" indicating text input with active function key. It's a bit tricky when you try to type password and you don't see what you write...
But in general it works very well. But installing "hidelogo" caused reset loop and I had to hard-reset.
Great work!
EDIT:
Change HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Today/Items/"Dial Lookup"/Type from 4 to 6 <- it will fix active-call-screen-problem Works for me.
i build new version today with all palm applications and battery test show me 14days
it is quickly then last version i upload it soon
it need some small fixes
UPLOADED 1st link
miloszz said:
I've noticed one more thing: there's no "white dot" indicating text input with active function key. It's a bit tricky when you try to type password and you don't see what you write...
But in general it works very well. But installing "hidelogo" caused reset loop and I had to hard-reset.
Great work!
EDIT:
Change HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Today/Items/"Dial Lookup"/Type from 4 to 6 <- it will fix active-call-screen-problem Works for me.
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white dot not working on 6.5 i must copy some from 6.1 to make it works
czech version
To Veisen:
Will you make the czech WM 6.5 clear version?
Can you describe differencies between clear and palm version and between 6.1 and 6.5 version?
Thanks.
endymion said:
To Veisen:
Will you make the czech WM 6.5 clear version?
Can you describe differencies between clear and palm version and between 6.1 and 6.5 version?
Thanks.
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clear is without palm applications and wm6.5 is fastest and stable
czech localization on wm6.5 i make soon
i can make other localized roms as deu ita spa pol .........
1st all try this english
i make localization on bug free version of 6.5
Hi guys,
My dad's handed me his Vario III / (Kaiser 120) to use.
I did a reset using the option in 'SETTINGS' to reset it and lose all date. Now, when I start it up, it looks like new and the time/date has to be set. All my dad's contacts have gone. Cool. - 1. Was this a Hard-Reset ?
I went to something like SETTINGS > INFO and got this:
Radio Vers 1.70.18.02
ROM DATE 9/01/08
ROM Vers. 3.31.110.3 WWE
Build 19212.1.03
When I start it up, it says Windows Mobile v6.1
A couple years ago, I loaded tomtom navigator on it for my dad. It was really good with the internal gps.
Anyway, now that I have the phone, I'd like to install tomtom navigator on it, use the camera (maybe 10 photos a week) and upload pics to my PC, and browse the internet (email, twitter etc.) from time to time. Also, I'd use the handset to connect via bluetooth to my laptop so I can use it for internet (in emergencies, as it is kinda slow). I also text (3-5 texts a day)
I also downloaded an app called Shazam.cab from a site called mobilism, which I would love to use as I have seen it on my lucky friend's iPhone and the app is awesome!
2. Apart from the usb cable, and active sync on my pc, do i need anything else to install shazam on my phone/micro sd card?
3. I assume a ROM means operating system? Like windows xp, 7 etc.
I see that people are putting new ROMs on their phone. My phone has
Storage Free Space: 121MB and Programs Free 55MB. There isn't a lot of 'bloatware' hogging up resources on there, as far as i can see.
4. Do I need to install a custom ROM now that you know my uses (in blue font above) for the phone? / do I need to flash it? I.e. will a new ROM/flash make my life a lot easier? Better to convert to android system? Will I need to do any of these things to install shazam?
I was goin to do this on the weekend so I can use other sims in my phone:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
fingers crossed it goes ok.
Can you please help?
Thank you
Sonny
ps. I may need to ask a couple more questions after this. Once again thank you for your help. If anyone needs advice on cameras, please let me know as I am a regular contributor to a photography forum.
1. Yes, it was HARD-Reset (removes all settings, contacts, messages, ...). It doesn't do anything to the MicroSD card.
2. I don't know anything about that. Sorry!
3. Yes, ROM means operating system. There are stock ROMs and modified ROMs. For Kaiser (a.k.a. HTC TyTN II) you'll find only stock Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM and lots of modified WM 6.1 and WM 6.5 ROMs. There's no stock WM 6.5 ROM for Kaiser.
4. Android is not stable enough. Sometimes it crashes, doesn't wake up and so on... All your mentioned things can be done with both WM 6.1 and 6.5, so it's for you to decide what to use. WM 6.1 looks a little bit old and terrible, but it uses less resources than WM 6.5 which looks a little bit... like system that was made to be similar to iPhone OS. Yes, WM 6.5 is more finger-friendly, but the applications grid drives me crazy, it uses more resources (and loves draining the battery)
Thank you very much for taking the time to post. I found it really useful.
I stuck with original HTC ROM with 6.1 and I am loving it. Shazam works wonderfully well. The phone is so damn sharp. And, using 2 apps at once is brilliant.
Does anyone know if I can put more icons/apps on the TODAY SCREEN?
At the moment, I am only allowed to put 6 in the start menu screen, and 1 (tom tom) on the today screen.
My Start menu has: 1 File explorer, 2 organiser (i use the calculator a lot), 3 internet explorer, 4 MS word (for my notes), 5 shazam (use a lot), 6 Resco photo manager (for uploading to FlickR)
I'd like to add 2 more apps (wunder radio + core player) somewhere with quick access.
Any ideas?
Thank you
Try copying applications links (.lnk files) from \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\ to \Windows\Start Menu\
I'm not sure if it's going to work with Windows Mobile 6.1, but it's safe to try