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Tons of problems with Tilt after installing new CAB

I know this is my first post here but I've done my best to search the forums and I haven't found anything that looks like it helps me.
I just got my AT&T Tilt yesterday. It came unlocked (I'm using it with T-Mobile) and has an HTC ROM installed as well as various other apps (Ms. Pacman, TomTom 6, SuperDoku, etc.). I had some issues with it locking up yesterday (similar to what I'm experiencing now but to a much, much lesser degree) when I was playing around with it but those issues somehow corrected themselves.
This morning I installed the Tilt keyboard fix that TaurusBullba posted on here back in June to fix some mapping issues. Since I installed and soft reseted, everything has been going kinda haywire. The Wi-Fi turned itself off and I can't turn it back on. When I slide out the keyboard the orientation stays in portrait mode. When I try to shut down the phone using the power button it hangs forever. Now, actually, half the time I press the power button nothing happens at all.
I've tried uninstalling the CAB but that didn't fix anything at all. I'm afraid to try a hard reset because, from my understanding, I'm going to lose everything that came pre-installed on my phone for me. I should probably also add that last night I installed the Google Maps CAB with no problems whatsoever. Is there some simple solution I'm overlooking? Thanks much!

I would advise that if you have tried soft resets to try and resolve the issues and it hasn't worked, then perhaps a hard reset?
It sounds as if the software you have installed as either caused the problems or exacberated them (ie made them worse).
With hard reset it wipes everything back to when you got it. If you are able I would suggest that you plug it into the computer and make sure ActiveSync backups up your contents. You may also want to use this get all the files on the main memory either to the storage card or to you're PC.
As this is yo're first post I don't know how au fait you are with the above that I have mentioned

The preloaded apps will be reloaded again. You won't have an empty ROM if you do a hard reset. It will be as if you just flashed the ROM again.

Thanks for the replies guys. I went ahead and did a hard reset and it looks like the only thing I lost (or at least the only thing I miss) was TomTom. I've already reinstalled that using a link I found on here, and everything seems to be good to go.
I still have no idea what might have caused the problems though, so I'm afraid that they might come back or I might repeat some dumb mistake I made. I guess I'll just have to live with that for now.

clear storage / hard resets no big deal, just expect to do it every other week while you're finding all the cabs that work (or dont work) for you..
I generally clear storaged every week when i first got my tilt until I found all the app's I liked that didn't have side effects

Soft reset per day?

Have my att tilt for over a week now and i noticed I need to perform soft reset at least twice a day. I am not sure if that's normal but I think it's annoying since I rely on it for reminders. This morning I had to do a soft reset because it froze during the night. I am not sure if I want to use it as alarm clock.
I am using the Dutty's V4 RTM and Radio 1.27.12.11.
Is there something I can do or do i need to get used to it?
Other than that and the bluetooth not working with my infiniti g35, i love it.

No problems for me, never had to do an softreset because of freezing up. Only because of my battery problem.

I soft reset a couple of times a week - just for good measure (after running memmaid or something to assure good operations). Don't think I've ever "needed" to other than during flashing and installations. Using Dutty's V2 (medium), but moments from flashing Q-Mobile 1.2. I tend to avoid things like cubes and S2U and such (justified or not, I see them as unnecessary resource hogs), but am hardly minimalistic as far as installing programs.
Perhaps you'd be happier with a "liter" ROM? I'm still testing to find the one I want to stick with. That being said, I love the V2 medium - just looking to appease my inner flashing addict.

i love it when ppl use cooked ROMs and then complain about issues...No offense to anybody. I used cooked ROMs on the Hermes as well. Not on my TILT. I do not have to reset the Tilt, but when I do is because a third party program freezes.
And also remember, any program that you install, might cause issues, because crappy programming...It's not necessary the OS...

Using Qmobile 1.2 for about a week. Might have had to soft rest once or twice. Not too bad. I think mainly because of Navizon though...

I never really had to soft reset due to crashes, but i normally do softresets after configuring registries that require soft resets. Otherwise, its on 24/7!!

I soft reset when I find my phone getting a little sluggish. It's like a computer, I figure, and I restart my computer multiple times a week. Either way, I don't think there's any harm in soft resetting too much.

I find I have to soft reset fairly often. Probably every day. I am using stock ROM but have installed a bunch of stuff, so I am suspicious of that.
I do have a Cube installed, and am considering dropping it off. Not sure if that will help or not.
I find that there are a lot of posts about various quirks on Tilt. And I will say, "Gee, that doesn't happen to me", and of course next thing you know it does. Some of the stuff is just me still learing how I can get myself into trouble. For example today my sound quit and I couldn't hear music from WMP. But it turned out that the problem was that sometime I had hit that little speaker at the top which opend the volume control, and before getting it closed I had deactivated sound. So even with volume at 100%, no sound. Interesting...
Anyway, as some said, I suspect combination of installing stuff causes issues. The more you install the more likely it will be problematic. But then, for me anyway, one reason I have this unit is so I can put stuff on it to make it productive. But then, after all, it is a version of Windows, so after a while, probably need to reload from scratch (hard reset).

yea most likely its the stuff u put on the stock? o men do some upgade.

I do soft reset about once in 14 days. I usually do it when my available RAM approaches 40 MB. Don't remember it has ever crashed on me except for a few times when usiing opera mobile.
Actually I after using the TyTn II for 3 months now I am starting to believe that the instability issues we relate with windows mobile are becoming more of a myth than a reality

I guess I soft reset too often? I do it about 15 times a day. By choice, though.

mick2021 said:
Have my att tilt for over a week now and i noticed I need to perform soft reset at least twice a day. I am not sure if that's normal but I think it's annoying since I rely on it for reminders. This morning I had to do a soft reset because it froze during the night. I am not sure if I want to use it as alarm clock.
I am using the Dutty's V4 RTM and Radio 1.27.12.11.
Is there something I can do or do i need to get used to it?
Other than that and the bluetooth not working with my infiniti g35, i love it.
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just hard reset, it may help

I normally do a soft reset every morning when I disconnect my Tilt from the computer, since Active Sync kicks in every so often during the night and drains the RAM by running. . . but it's still between 50 - 55MB, even at that. Other than that, the only time I've had to soft reset is when an app would freeze up -- which isn't very often.

most of the times i soft reset is after installing a program or vice versa when it tells me it needs to do so...rarely will i have to do it cuz it froze or whatnot

I'm in exactly the same boat as bapssystupr3m3, I only soft reset it when an installed application tells me i need to do so.
Other than that, I frequently make sure I close all the apps that are just running in the background and my kaiser appears fine.

Only soft resets when schedule back up comes up daily. Other than the scheduled backup, no resets (so far *knock on wood*).

what's wrong with resetting the phone? It doesn't hurt..

I'm using the stock HTC rom, and can only remember one time when something locked up on me (a third party app) and I ended up soft-resetting, the only other times I've done it have been after installing/configuring new things. I guess in the normal course of things I maybe reset... once a week? Sometimes more, but never for any negative reason.
I'd say the uptime on this device is at least as good as my last Symbian-based phone, and the myth of Windows Mobile being unstable is just that - a myth.

I'm using the stock Tilt rom with just a few things installed and have to reset most days. Yesterday when I woke up I discovered my phone had crashed at 11:30 the previous evening when someone had called me. Today when I woke up an hour late I reset the phone because my alarms hadn't worked nor were the notifications for messages...

I soft-reset once everyday (in the morning). It's part of my daily routine now. I use ClearTemp program to clear everything (start menu, cache, etc.) and then soft-reset using that program as well.

TyTyn II problems

After many months of trouble free use I seem to have hit a number of issues and wonder if anyone has any suggestions. I will list them below. I don't know if they are related:-
1 The device will not switch on until either connected to the mains and/or soft reset.
2 Sudden unexpected draining of battery.
3 Random backlight changes not connected to the settings made
4 Cannot be synced with laptop Error of replog.exe
5 Battery indicators shows charging when not attached to mains.
Quite a list and rather disappointing after such trouble free previous use.
Brian Leach

time to get a replacement

I'd hope to get more than three month's use out of a £400 plus piece of kit!!!

3 Random backlight changes not connected to the settings made
this one could be because of Phone Alarm if u have that installed

Your right, you should not have to "brick" your phone!
If you've done any mods like ROM's etc...I am of no help. As tempting as those are, I dont need the headaches that, with my luck, may happen! Thus I've avoided those completely. My Kaiser is 6 months old.
Things I would try...
Hard Reset after you backed up any data ( if possible )
If you are using Sprite Backup you can recover a previously saved system state and apps prior to your problem start date.
Your battery may be croaking causing the backlight/charging problems. Try running without the battery.
Re-install Active Sync...
Remove the SD card and see if that is causing problems
Contact HTC and/or wait till someone smarter than me chimes in
Good luck, and I hope you get it back up and stable

Thanks for the suggestions.
I never managed to get Sprite tp work so I am trying to avoid a hard reset but that may be the only option.
I suppose the reason I want to avoid this is the many programs I have on the device which of course may be causing the problems so it's a bit of a vicious circle.
I have a spare battery so I might try that.
I tried reinstalling Activsync without success.
As you say I may well have to contact HTC.
Anyway thanks for taking the time to reply.
Brian Leach

Maybe you can get ActiveSync to work over bluetooth so you can at least back up what you need and then do a hard reset.
If a hard rest doesn't fix it i would then contact merchant/vendor to see if you can get warranty work done.
If you can't get warranty work done i would suggest flashing your ROM. You should be able to get Hard-SPL loaded and flash a ROM all from an SD card and not actually having to hook it up to your PC with active-sync.
Otherwise, if you don't want to take the risk I guess you'll have to live with the problems...but they sound pretty severe.
gl!

Didn't think of a bluetooth backup. Will try that.
Thanks for all the ideas.
Brian Leach

backup safety
fizzie said:
Your right, you should not have to "brick" your phone!
If you've done any mods like ROM's etc...I am of no help. As tempting as those are, I dont need the headaches that, with my luck, may happen! Thus I've avoided those completely. My Kaiser is 6 months old.
Things I would try...
Hard Reset after you backed up any data ( if possible )
If you are using Sprite Backup you can recover a previously saved system state and apps prior to your problem start date.
Your battery may be croaking causing the backlight/charging problems. Try running without the battery.
Re-install Active Sync...
Remove the SD card and see if that is causing problems
Contact HTC and/or wait till someone smarter than me chimes in
Good luck, and I hope you get it back up and stable
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be careful what you backup since the problems could be software based and restorin a backup containin these issues could put you back to where you left off

Will bear that in mind thanks
Brian Leach

Diamond is running extremely slow - TouchFlo won't start

Suddenly my Sprint HTC Touch Diamond is running extremely slow. TouchFlo 3D will not start. Various things runs extremely slowly like tapping on the start menu takes like 20-30 seconds to come up.
Rebooted several times. Turned off TouchFlo. Phone's still as slow as molasses?
What to do? Flash the ROM? If so, which I'd hate to do, where do I get the original Sprint based ROM?
Update: For some reason \Windows\manilla.exe never gets run. If I run it by hand then Touch Flo comes up. But it's still kinda slow.
Who/What starts manilla.exe?

Simply do a hard reset, this will reset everything back to original rom as in a factory reset.
http://www.hardreset.eu/htc_touch_diamond_hard_reset_soft_reset_en.html

That would be wonderful if I didn't customize things. But I have - heavily. And I'll need to reinstall all my apps. I was hoping not to do that...

defaria said:
That would be wonderful if I didn't customize things. But I have - heavily. And I'll need to reinstall all my apps. I was hoping not to do that...
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But this is the most likely reason it is running slowly... Needs a hard reset and start again - and be judicious with what you re-install.

Before doing a hard reset, have you tried a soft reset??
A soft reset for heavy users is almost required dally in some cases to release the memory from being attached to programs and the OS which is consider to be called "Memory Leaks." A typical problem for all 6.1 Roms.
This slow and sometimes unresponsive behaviour was what also experience as well. There are programs that help memory find it's home but sometimes a good old fashion soft reset is what's needed.
Last thing: Make sure that when you have flashed a new ROM to ALWAYS do a HARD RESET immediately. Not sure if you followed that procedure in your last flash. IF not, I'm afraid a soft reset might not be sufficient to remedy this issue for you.

Riker88 said:
But this is the most likely reason it is running slowly... Needs a hard reset and start again - and be judicious with what you re-install.
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This is exactly what I was trying to avoid. A computer doesn't suddenly go from running OK to dog slow when you have not changed anything (I only rebooted/soft reset). The running of manilla.exe doesn't suddenly disappear.
Everything I install I install for a reason.

band27 said:
Before doing a hard reset, have you tried a soft reset??
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Daily! If not hourly. WinMo is not known for being stable.
A soft reset for heavy users is almost required dally in some cases to release the memory from being attached to programs and the OS which is consider to be called "Memory Leaks." A typical problem for all 6.1 Roms.
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I'm well versed in what memory leaks are. 'Round here we call them bugs. Being in the business for some 30 years now I can tell you that having to reboot an OS periodically is a sign of an extremely buggy OS. Unfortunately that's what WinMo is.
This slow and sometimes unresponsive behaviour was what also experience as well. There are programs that help memory find it's home but sometimes a good old fashion soft reset is what's needed.
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There's a big difference between being slow and being suddenly SLOOOOOOOOOWWWWW.
Last thing: Make sure that when you have flashed a new ROM to ALWAYS do a HARD RESET immediately. Not sure if you followed that procedure in your last flash. IF not, I'm afraid a soft reset might not be sufficient to remedy this issue for you.
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I've yet to flash this phone. I was hoping to avoid it. There are so many ROMs to choose from, some better than others. And I'm not looking forward to having to reapply all my customizations...

i get a problem like this occasionally after a restart. I need to hit the green dial key to get it to ask my PIN. after i enter my pin everything is back to normal.
just an idea

sprite backup
What you should do is when you hard-reset the phone and you have installed all your must-have apps (and the phone still runs smoothly) use Sprite Backup to make an image. This way when things go bad again, just restore the Sprite image to that wonderful time when everything still worked smoothly and you won't have to install all the apps again. Only the apps you installed after the image ofcourse... depends how often you backup
Works like a charm.
Be careful though, when you flash another rom, you CAN'T use the Sprite image anymore!! You have to make a new image then.
Hope this helps.

HELP! T-Mobile Vario 3 might have bricked itself

My stock T-Mobile Vario 3 has been performing fine for two years, until yesterday when for some reason Bluetooth would not enable when I clicked on the icon (otherwise the phone seemed fine) so I did a basic Windows shutdown/reboot as I have plenty of times in the past.
The boot initially got stuck on the first white T-Mobile boot screen with the ROM/etc revision numbers on, and would not go any further. I removed and re-inserted the battery and tried again several times, and after a couple of tries it managed to get as far as the first green Windows load screen before sticking again.
I think it must have hard-reset itself at some point during these attempts though, as now it will sometimes go as far as the default "tap screen to calibrate display" message, which I can tap and then see the central cross-hair. If I tap on this quickly enough it sometimes moves the cross-hair up to the top-left, but then it locks and won't do anything else unless I disconnect the battery again. That's the best I've been able to get it to do so far.
Help! Any ideas?
Andre

I came to the conclusion that I wasn't going to get my old system back so I forced a hard reset myself (two soft-buttons & reset hole) and it has now reloaded to factory default, but as least it's working which I rather doubted it would be.
Photos, music etc were all on the memory card, and contacts/calendar info were daily synced to my PC, so there only some old SMSs lost which isn't too bad.
Oh well, I guess I can now look around for a more modern ROM for it (now that there's nothing on there to backup/reinstall). Anyone got any particular favourites? (as there do seem to be a lot around!)
Andre

andrewilley said:
I came to the conclusion that I wasn't going to get my old system back so I forced a hard reset myself (two soft-buttons & reset hole) and it has now reloaded to factory default, but as least it's working which I rather doubted it would be.
Photos, music etc were all on the memory card, and contacts/calendar info were daily synced to my PC, so there only some old SMSs lost which isn't too bad.
Oh well, I guess I can now look around for a more modern ROM for it (now that there's nothing on there to backup/reinstall). Anyone got any particular favourites? (as there do seem to be a lot around!)
Andre
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Since there are a lot roms out there, the only one who knows what is looking for is you..yes...you...Andre because, what's favorite for me probably will not be "favorite" for you, that's why there are so many options out there. Try a couple of them (6.1 or 6.5) it does not take a long time to flash them (< 10 minutes). After that, you will come up with your favorite as many users in these forums. You will definitely will enjoy the flashing and testing the different roms!. That's what I feel LoL