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Device switches on by it's self

When I switch off my XDA IIs by button or SW button in most of the cases the device switches on it self for one more time.
Is there anyone who can help?
Thanks guys!
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I have the same problem, I had a bluetooth headset paired to it, maybe that is it, I only got the XDAIIs today so I have not had much time to watch it but it happened tonight and the XDA mini never does it.

Each time the BT headset is switched on or off and pairs up or releases, when a text message arrives, when you come out of a signal blackspot and reconnect and find you have missed calls etc.
Basically anything that results in a visual change caused the device to switch on.
Very annoying. Don't know the solution.
I share your pain.
Joe

I'm using http://www.trancreative.com/nicestart.aspx to keep the device locked, but it will turn on/off, but now it's locked so i dont delete data when it turns on in my pocket.
No matter what you do, the device will turn on at least once every hour.
I read somewhere that it does this to check the battery status.

I had the same problem once. Please open ActiveSync, switch the device off and see if ActiveSync is trying to connect..
Of course there can be lots of other reasons...

Yes I didn't mention on my post that activesync also seems to be a player in this problem.
If activesync is running, somehow the device syncs at varying intervals from 5 mins-1hr and switches it on to do so.
I used the attached to kill activesync to stop it happening.
Hope it helps.
Joe

I just unchecked the "Use mobile schedule to sync with this PC" setting and the problem was solved.
Though this seems to be a bug in ActiveSync..

Thanks
Works fine, great!

i had this problem on my old rom, and since i upgraded to 1.40, it aint done it since. maybe u need to upgrade.

Small app that turns on BT and WLAN after suspend?

OK, this ide was stolen from a guy at the norwegian forum www.windowsmobile.no: Can't somebody who knows what they're doing program a small app that can be set to turn on BT and WLAN whenever the unit is turned on? Then I'd be very happy, at least!

may be this tool can help?
http://oz.sciox.org/ozbt.html

Wow! At first glance it seems to work! I'll have to turn off the unit for a longer time and see if it still works. I'll know in the morning...it's been along night. Election night in Norway.

I think this does work but like Mastiff says I am going to leave off my SX66 for a bit.
If this does work, this needs to be added as a patch?

I am pretty sure this is working for my SX66.
I first manually turned off Wireless and Bluetooth. Then restarted my PDA, which both Wireless and Bluetooth where off when it was done booting. I then went into ozBT and changed Wireless/BT from Default On to Defaul Off.
I was then going to restart the PDA but before I could Wireless and BT popped on!
I also turned off my PDA for a bit and Bluetooth was off - then it turned it's self back on.
Nice!
Someone needs to invite this guy over here and get him on the staff!

Why would you want BT and Wifi turned on everytime you switched on your PPC? Wouldnt that kill the battery? Every time you soft reset, turn on to check email, etc. Can someone explain what this achieves?

Myself I do not want WiFi on but I do for Bluetooth, since I use a BT Headset all the time.

First of all this doesn't work very well at all for me. On my Qtek 9090 this has unforseen side effects for WiFi, so I have gone back on it. It doesn't log into my default network at once, like it does when I turn it on manually. Instead it either tries to log on to the other WiFi network I have in my house (don't ask), even though that's weaker and MAC blocked for the unit. And if it doesn't find that, it just stays on "searching". And even when searching it don't show the WiFi icon, it shows the GPRS icon all the time. So for my unit this is a dead end. If anybody else tries this and doesn't have problems, I will have to do a hard reset and see if it's some kind of third party program that creates this problem.
Second, I want them on like I always have had them on with my four last PPCs since I have a wireless network both in my house and in my car, and I control music, lights and a lot of other stuff in the house and music in the car with it. Besides when I'm driving I always use TomTom to warn me of speed cams. And I have charging in both my cars, on both my motorbikes and in my home office (I run a translating business from home). So I'm never far away from charging and never have problems with the battery, and finally I use WiFi a lot more than I use the phone part, with NetRemote controlling the house, and surfing.

where is the file
where is the program can be found.

http://oz.sciox.org/ozbt.html
But no my system it's trying to connect to the wrong network every time. If I turn on the WLAN manually I don't have that problem at all, it connects to the default. I'm starting to think that the program forces the driver to check for the default network to early, before the network card is ready, then gives up on that and start looking for other networks a few seconds later, which is when the network card really is ready to connect.

Dopod D810 randomly turning on

My bro and I both bought the above units and have upgraded to the GPS rom. Just wondering if anyone else has noticed the unit switches on by itself. We are both experiencing this problem but also have the same programs running. The button lock feature is set on.

That's right. My Trinity is alive, too ;-)
I'm using the dopod rom about one week and I noticed that today for the first time.
There's no application running in the background. It's still alive ;-)
I do not care about this problem.

Hi,
Any software you are running?
Best regards,
Gilbert

Today programs are as follows:
cLaunch
Today Agenda
Battery Pack / Program Bar
PPCProfiles
I will try and eliminate one by one to see if it is software related.
Anyone else using one of the programs and having the unit switch on by itself. This issue bothers me as I see its going to be a drain on the battery.

Activesync may be the culprit
Many PPC WM5 devices tend to turn themselves on. It is usually an Activesync setting that periodically turns on the device and tries to connect to a non existant server. Best bet is to set up a dummy server on Activesync on the PPC, then set the sync settings to Manual, then delete the dummy server.
Sorry if you already have done this, but it certainly solved the issue for me.

Camstech said:
Many PPC WM5 devices tend to turn themselves on. It is usually an Activesync setting that periodically turns on the device and tries to connect to a non existant server. Best bet is to set up a dummy server on Activesync on the PPC, then set the sync settings to Manual, then delete the dummy server.
Sorry if you already have done this, but it certainly solved the issue for me.
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Hey Camstech, could you please give me a detailed description of how to set this up?
Thanks

My phone seems to do this too, but from what I can see, it is because of bad 3G coverage and the phone has to roam to GSM and back. Only happens at work where I got bad coverage (2/4).

AFAIK this issue is common to ALL devices and all versions.
I understand that you DO NOT TURN THE PDA OFF (Holding the on/off button), just go to "standby". So there are many Apps that tend to "awake" rather than TURN ON your PDA. It's like Sleep mode vs Hybernate in Windows. Agenda or scheduled items may turn your PDA active, even SMS messages that don't fully arrive, phone reconnecting, GPRS or UMTS changing status, profiles that are set to change over time, incoming calls, etc.
I think this is not specific to a certain ROM but to the fact that you have a full time connected and running computer in your pocket....
Hope it helps.

Looking Glass said:
AFAIK this issue is common to ALL devices and all versions.
I understand that you DO NOT TURN THE PDA OFF (Holding the on/off button), just go to "standby". So there are many Apps that tend to "awake" rather than TURN ON your PDA. It's like Sleep mode vs Hybernate in Windows. Agenda or scheduled items may turn your PDA active, even SMS messages that don't fully arrive, phone reconnecting, GPRS or UMTS changing status, profiles that are set to change over time, incoming calls, etc.
I think this is not specific to a certain ROM but to the fact that you have a full time connected and running computer in your pocket....
Hope it helps.
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I would have to agree to a point, as I have noticed when PPCProfiles changes automatically to my car mode (bluetooth on) the pda turns on. So you are right that it's programs possibly turning it on but this never happened on my O2 mini (WM2003SE). I'm hoping a new ROM may fix this issue.

I have disabled the "auto switch template" on PPCProfiles which changes over to bluetooth at a certain time of the day and it appears to have stopped the pda turning on by itself. So far so good for 1 day. Curious if anyone else is using PPCProfiles and are experiencing this. Does anyone else use other phone profile programs with switching templates that does not turn on their pda by itself?

frigit said:
I have disabled the "auto switch template" on PPCProfiles which changes over to bluetooth at a certain time of the day and it appears to have stopped the pda turning on by itself. So far so good for 1 day. Curious if anyone else is using PPCProfiles and are experiencing this. Does anyone else use other phone profile programs with switching templates that does not turn on their pda by itself?
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Whoops!
Where can I find PPCProfiles. I dont seem to have that kind of settings in my original HTC P3600....
Very interesting.

saminegm said:
Whoops!
Where can I find PPCProfiles. I dont seem to have that kind of settings in my original HTC P3600....
Very interesting.
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You can find the program link below. I never had any issues when using this program on my O2 mini. It still works on my dopod d810 just that I have disabled the auto switch template.
ps the chrome template is the nicest
http://www.modaco.com/Latest_Version-t205779.html

Correction to my thinking it was PPC profiles. It is actually happening when the bletooth is turned on ( hence ppc profiles switching over to car mode - bluetooth). I disabled ppc profiles and turned on bluetooth and strangely enough the dopod kept turning on.
Is anyone else experiencing this problem when they have bluetooth on?

frigit said:
I have disabled the "auto switch template" on PPCProfiles which changes over to bluetooth at a certain time of the day and it appears to have stopped the pda turning on by itself. So far so good for 1 day. Curious if anyone else is using PPCProfiles and are experiencing this. Does anyone else use other phone profile programs with switching templates that does not turn on their pda by itself?
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Mine sometimes turns itself on when it automatically checks my email accounts, but not always. I wonder if it isn't the 3G/Edge switch that is explained earlier. My house is in a 3G fringe area. I believe it doesn't try and wake itself up when the Wifi is on. My Prophet never did this, it would only wake up for an alarm, call, or SMS.
The main issues are reduced battery life and if you have your phone in your pocket and it wakes up, buttons can be accidentally pressed before it goes back to sleep.

Problems with WiFi access on Helmi

I SIM unlocked to use T-Mobile with my SX66 to do a comparison with my Wizard to see how this BA performs: I cant figure out if this is an older unit (05 versus 06??) or a newer one (400 MHz rather than 190 and a 2 megaixel camera on the camera units rather than a 1.3???) and installed Helmi, which has lots of features I don't need but which seems to be the only WM6 ROM around for this unit (?).
Installation went fine and without a hitch but now on boot up, I don't get a splash screen of whatever type: I get the initial bootloader screen, which is curious! But seems to be correct. However on that screen on soft reset, it shows the OS correctly but with a R 1.02.10 and a G of 1337.35. What is unusual is that on hard reset it shows both these settings as empty. Only on soft reset does it show the radio etc.
Slightly more worryingly (as I would like to test out VoIP on this unit) this BA wont connect to the Internet. WLAN is off by default and turning it on just flashes up a list of local WiFi LANs: It wont actually connect to any of them. it does take you through the steps and asks all the seemingly obvious questions (Is this the Internet or a work VPN? WHY SHOULD YOU CARE??) and at the end of the process, it just doesn't connect. Even more annoyingly, when it doesnt connect, it turns WLAN off again, so you don't really know when it did this (or, of course, why). It takes you through all the steps and then gives you the Configure Wireless Networks screen which shows all local networks which you KNOW to be available as "unavailable".
Is this a known problem with Helmi or does anyone recognise what I am doing wrong please?

I had the same problem with my BLUEANGEL (MDA III). The Upgrade to WM6 was totally ok. Everything is working, except the WLAN. Did you tried this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343862

No, it just keeps disconnecting (things getting worse)
player_no1 said:
I had the same problem with my BLUEANGEL (MDA III). The Upgrade to WM6 was totally ok. Everything is working, except the WLAN. Did you tried this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343862
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The WLAN started trying to connect as I describe but now just doesn't even turn on in Comm Mgr.
Also tried upgrading to xplode but BA loses communication during the upgrade process. (Attempted to ask Xplode himself on that thread and will see if he has any idea)

i donno if this helps but wad i did was i turned on bluetooth. thn i turned on wifi.
it detected my wifi router entered my wep key thn logged on to internet. thn i switched off my bluetooth. i tried surfing and was ok.
i switched off wifi waited awhile thn turn on wifi.. it works flawlessly..for now
edit: u gotta use comms manager

badass7 said:
i donno if this helps but wad i did was i turned on bluetooth. thn i turned on wifi.
it detected my wifi router entered my wep key thn logged on to internet. thn i switched off my bluetooth. i tried surfing and was ok.
i switched off wifi waited awhile thn turn on wifi.. it works flawlessly..for now
edit: u gotta use comms manager
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Yes, although bluetooth was already working, this seems to do something: I dont know what it is but it appears to be some combination of turning off and turning on again all sorts of things in CommMgr. Now it is working.
I wonder how long it will continue to work? It certainly doesnt let me open VoIP settings while connected. I still get a fatal exception when I try to do so and even though I have inputted all my VoIP settings, VoIP still doesnt work.
Still trying to figure out whether Xplode knows what is causing my failure to communicate WHILE upgrading from Helmi to Xplode.

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Yes, although bluetooth was already working, this seems to do something: I dont know what it is but it appears to be some combination of turning off and turning on again all sorts of things in CommMgr. Now it is working.
I wonder how long it will continue to work? It certainly doesnt let me open VoIP settings while connected. I still get a fatal exception when I try to do so and even though I have inputted all my VoIP settings, VoIP still doesnt work.
Still trying to figure out whether Xplode knows what is causing my failure to communicate WHILE upgrading from Helmi to Xplode.
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i am a noobie so i don't understand the term VoIP yet as i haven't read thru all FAQs and technical stuff lol pardon my noobness haha
anyway i wanted to update that today very early in morning when i tried using
wifi again the normal way but could not so i followed the steps again... and when it was working i pushed the reset button and till now which is abt 12hrs later still works ok ... i do not noe if its by chance or there is no way it shld work by my steps but it works for me and i hope it works for u too
btw i am using helmi's rom if it helps
cheers

hemi rom wifi not working
wifi not working i've tried it to turn on and turn off but to no avail
licensedtoquill said:
Yes, although bluetooth was already working, this seems to do something: I dont know what it is but it appears to be some combination of turning off and turning on again all sorts of things in CommMgr. Now it is working.
I wonder how long it will continue to work? It certainly doesnt let me open VoIP settings while connected. I still get a fatal exception when I try to do so and even though I have inputted all my VoIP settings, VoIP still doesnt work.
Still trying to figure out whether Xplode knows what is causing my failure to communicate WHILE upgrading from Helmi to Xplode.
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I have made an interesting discovery about this flaky WiFi on the Blue Angel
pda2kstar said:
wifi not working i've tried it to turn on and turn off but to no avail
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Often when I try to connect using IE and it says it isn't connected, it IS. I often get the message that I cant connect with the usual reference to completely useless settings pages or an offer to dismiss and give up on the internet connection.
But if I ignore it, I find that I mysteriously AM connected.

Got to the bottom of Wifi problems... Yep, Definitely

Guys,
I don't know if this is actually a cure yet, but it seems to have worked on my first attempt.
First the background...
When I first got my Kaiser (UK Orange Tytn II) I was at work, I quickly enabled the wifi and all was well. When I got back home later that day I really struggled to get a connection to my access point at home. I connect to a Cisco aironet in both locations (I know there is a post about cisco extensions but I know that is not my problem as I can and have connected to both APs on at least one occasion with no problem).
After deleting wireless settings and a few soft resets I was able to connect at home. I managed to use that wifi connection all night without a problem. Getting back into the office the next day resulted in the same problems connecting to the office access point.
The AP is visible and is 'Available' but doesn't connect automatically. I tried to establish the connection manually, the phone shows the AP as 'Connecting' but shortly after goes back to 'Available'.
I've tried flashing different roms and radios but to no avail.
Last night I got to thinking that I generally connect to my AP, browse the web, sync mail etc, but I don't switch off the wifi when I am finished. I just let the phone go into standby as that shuts the wifi off anyway. So to try something different last night, I disabled wifi once I had finished.
This morning, when I got into the office, I enabled wifi and for the first time it connected immediately and I'm browsing on it just fine. This leads me to believe that there is a problem when the wifi is enabled and the phone is is standby mode for a considerable length of time and then is woken up in a totally different location.
I'll test again tonight by disabling the wifi before I leave the office and hopefully I'll get an instant connection when I get home.
Any thoughts?

I get the same thing for work and cannt connect even though it says available, and then connected.
Tried your approach but didnt work for me.

bluemamba said:
I get the same thing for work and cannt connect even though it says available, and then connected.
Tried your approach but didnt work for me.
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Of course that might be due to any number of factors. Have you ever been able to connect at your office?

i've had issues with my orange (uk) tytnII actually wanting to make a GPRS connection whilst connected to WiFi when i try and go online.
I connect at work using a program called Odyssey and eventually got that working yesterday, but had to turn off most other connectivity before it'd actually use the WiFi.
then I was at a pub later on with a free wifi hot spot, but that wouldn't connect despite it being 'available'

YAY!
Well...
I retested my theory. Disabled the wireless before I left the office. Got home, enabled it and I connected with no issues.
So there is a problem with having the wifi on when the phone goes into standby and it then waking up in a totally different location.
I wonder if WM6.1 addresses this. I hope so because although I have a work around, its still a pain in the a$$

I had similar problems on my Wizard... never had anything like that on my Kaiser.

DarkDvr said:
I had similar problems on my Wizard... never had anything like that on my Kaiser.
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Could you tell me what radio you are using?

foobar1977 said:
Could you tell me what radio you are using?
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ROM: DualTouch v3 (dutty's v3)
Radio: 1.27.11.31
No problems with it.. no missed calls, calls come through fine when I'm on HSDPA.. no wifi problems so far.

DarkDvr said:
ROM: DualTouch v3 (dutty's v3)
Radio: 1.27.11.31
No problems with it.. no missed calls, calls come through fine when I'm on HSDPA.. no wifi problems so far.
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Thanks, I might give that a go when I get a chance.

My problem is similiar. If I connect to a certain access point, it will stop working after a minute or so and then not be able connect to that access point or any other one, they are just listed as available. Strange...

Firstly set your wifi power to max.
Secondly, my orange Tytn2 (now dutty v3'd) has never had that problem.
I leave navizon on a lot of the time and thus enter and leave wifi zones frequently with wifi on and my device connects fine to the regular ones I use.

Wi-fi connection
Hi unwired,
I've been surfing this site, but unable to find an answer yet, a newbie that I am. Is there a way to define one network as default? Anytime I want to connect, I have to do it manually, and define settins, rather than just switch it on, connect automatically and fire away. This is how it works on my laptop, or I have to high expectations from the Kaiser?
Thanks in advance.

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Firstly set your wifi power to max.
Secondly, my orange Tytn2 (now dutty v3'd) has never had that problem.
I leave navizon on a lot of the time and thus enter and leave wifi zones frequently with wifi on and my device connects fine to the regular ones I use.
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This is nothing to do with power settings, or at least not for me or several other people I have spoken to. Its generally not a problem when the wifi is on, its after the device has gone into suspend.
I'll bet my bottom dollar that if I set the reg hack so the wifi is always on I wont have this problem but I can't deal with the battery drain.
Just this morning I was connected to my office wifi, went for lunch without switching off the wifi first and when I got back I was longer able to connect to the same access point.
I then deleted the settings for the access point, soft reset and I'm connected again (even if I switch to low power).
To say that this pi$$es me off is an understatement, what kind of wireless device cant handle waking up in a different location to the one it went to sleep in!?

foobar1977 said:
This is nothing to do with power settings, or at least not for me or several other people I have spoken to. Its generally not a problem when the wifi is on, its after the device has gone into suspend.
I'll bet my bottom dollar that if I set the reg hack so the wifi is always on I wont have this problem but I can't deal with the battery drain.
Just this morning I was connected to my office wifi, went for lunch without switching off the wifi first and when I got back I was longer able to connect to the same access point.
I then deleted the settings for the access point, soft reset and I'm connected again (even if I switch to low power).
To say that this pi$$es me off is an understatement, what kind of wireless device cant handle waking up in a different location to the one it went to sleep in!?
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I have had similar problems. I get disco'ed from my AP at home and it won't let me re-connect. Jut keeps asking for the WPA2 key.
I use the same remedy as you. Turn off Wifi Before walking out of range. No amount of Softreset's fix it for me.
Although, some ROM's work better than others. ie Alex's WM6 ROM would not connect at all, the ROM / Radio in my sig are perfect so far.
P.S. This might also be tied to my router, cause a router reset fixes it for me. But i doubt work will let you try that

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Although, some ROM's work better than others. ie Alex's WM6 ROM would not connect at all, the ROM / Radio in my sig are perfect so far.
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Yeah I'm really hoping that this is fixed in WM6.1 which, if your experience is anything to go by, might well be the case. I really wanted to wait for the official 6.1, but I feel a flash of Duttys 6.1 coming on real soon.