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I'm thinking about two things. I dont really use touchflo, but i want a rom thats not program filled, like the stock ones. Touch-IT and PDAViet are sort of fulfilling in this sense, but they include touchflo.
I would be looking for a rom without ANY extra programs, but WITH biotouch (the finger scrolling thing)
Is this possible?
I agree. The cube is nice visually, but it's really kind of pointless.
concur. Maybe we can get somebody of higher knowledge to make us a wing rom with the specified modifications "cough*Itje*cough*. No pressure though.
fzzyrn said:
I'm thinking about two things. I dont really use touchflo, but i want a rom thats not program filled, like the stock ones. Touch-IT and PDAViet are sort of fulfilling in this sense, but they include touchflo.
I would be looking for a rom without ANY extra programs, but WITH biotouch (the finger scrolling thing)
Is this possible?
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If you have a wing like me, you can try the following.
Just an idea, but what about installing the t-mobile rom with just touchflo.
Which does not have all of the extra apps, then go to TF setting and disable all except for Enable Scroll.
Actually, i need the RAM AND the memory that is being taken over by touchflo. Biotouch is useful as hell, but touchflo, even when installed, takes up space. Also, other apps still run in the background. A fully optimized one would run no other apps in the RAM other than those required to function + Biotouch.
fzzyrn said:
Actually, i need the RAM AND the memory that is being taken over by touchflo. Biotouch is useful as hell, but touchflo, even when installed, takes up space. Also, other apps still run in the background. A fully optimized one would run no other apps in the RAM other than those required to function + Biotouch.
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AFAIK this should not be that difficult, you should be able to seperate biotouch files from the HTC_touchflo oem. Drop a line to PDAViets Tom Codon (he is is the one that created the touchflo oem for cooks) and ask him what the situation is, I am sure he will be glad to help you with a file list that is associated with biotouch. After that it is simple as running a kitchen once and just dropping in the files.Get a list of associated files and I could cook one for you...but I wouldn't take my time with it like itje does, I would just add that and thats it. There is much to be done other than that, mainly registry setting and a clean up of the rom. Should consider checking out the hypercore kitchen thread, it is very easy once you get the hang of it, just very time consuming.
edit:just checked out the oem and most of the files say biotouch before it, the only ones I am not sure about but I think you should include are the.brn files...anyone care to comment on the use of these files
also here is a link for anyone interested in the oem
http://rapidshare.com/files/47474833/HTC_TouchFlo.zip
fzzyrn said:
I'm thinking about two things. I dont really use touchflo, but i want a rom thats not program filled, like the stock ones. Touch-IT and PDAViet are sort of fulfilling in this sense, but they include touchflo.
I would be looking for a rom without ANY extra programs, but WITH biotouch (the finger scrolling thing)
Is this possible?
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that would be nice I never use the cube myself, a vanilla bare bone rom is what I am looking for just like what anichilus did for the wizard I actually started cooking one 2 days ago but I could not get the kitchen to work and the fact that I never cooked a rom does not help much, but a rom based on the T-mo one without any T-mo stuff and all the extra Micro$oft crap and a few basic tweaks would be fantastic I will just keep dreaming for now, I am using the touch-it light I removed most T-mo stuff and all extras that I could remove, changed the pagepool to 4 MB and it's running great thanks again itje, hmmmmm.......whispering vanilla..
I believe the .brn files are animation files for the cube. Dunno how to do this though. I'm clueless in HyperCore. If nobody's asked Tom_Codon, i'll ask him.
fzzyrn said:
I believe the .brn files are animation files for the cube. Dunno how to do this though. I'm clueless in HyperCore. If nobody's asked Tom_Codon, i'll ask him.
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no need to ask him, got it on the first attempt. I've made a WM6 Herald Rom with the only change being the added biotouch. I'm gonna spend the next few weeks trying to remove all the extra stuff. Unfourtunately I don't have a wing so I won't be cooking a clean rom for the wing(unless someone wants to write down exactly all the files they want me to remove), not familiar with all the stuff they put on there. Although, I can cook t-mobile rom with just biotouch enabled...but who would want to use that with all the extra crap they put in there.
the bm files is the cube
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the bm files is the cube
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ye figured it out thanks...do you know how I could remove internet sharing completely??
EDIT:I've been able to find and completely remove 100's of files associated with voice speed dial,adobe,audiomanager,windows live&msngr,midletmanager,winzip
the programs I am having trouble fully removing are:
*internet sharing (i know in SYS folder there is INTERNETSHARING...anything else associated with this app) "
mediaplayer (i know its mediaOS but not sure if I can delete the .dll also in these folders)
I'm also planning to remove the games aswell.
EDIT:you think its alright to remove the transriber folders, (3 of em) i notice some picture files in there that might still be needed unless there is another version of them of the rom
If i'm not mistaken, which i probably am, the only difference between the wing and the herald is the keyboard. But i'm probably wrong.
Maybe Itje can provide us with a list of things he changed to make Touch-it for wings.
if you remove to much, the os.nb will become smaller then the 50mb limit and wont work. So if you remove very much, add stuff too
itje said:
if you remove to much, the os.nb will become smaller then the 50mb limit and wont work. So if you remove very much, add stuff too
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wasn't aware of such a limit. at one point I had it tested and working at 43mb. added batterystatus,a theme and some other stuff. Currently I am sitting at 48mb and am looking to have it at around 40mb if possible. By removing WMP and Powerpoint I should get a little closer.
Who told you about this limit btw???
Huh. Sound good. Shame about the potential 50mb limit, thought it would be nice if it wasn't true.
But anyway, what ARE the differences between the herald and the wing? It'd be nice to know, so maybe we can make some cab fix.
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wasn't aware of such a limit. at one point I had it tested and working at 43mb. added batterystatus,a theme and some other stuff. Currently I am sitting at 48mb and am looking to have it at around 40mb if possible. By removing WMP and Powerpoint I should get a little closer.
Who told you about this limit btw???
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Meschle (chef on artemis section, and moderator)
but maybe thats just on the artemis....
If you get it to work on lower mb, thats just good herald owns artemis
btw, I managed to port a rom (sys folder) from a artemis to herald, I flashed it today and it worked great.
Im gonna port a rom to the wing when im done with the ones im working on now. Currently working on getting the Kaiser sys ported to herald, if this is success ill do one for wing too.
dang. hopefully it IS just for artemis
Oh and i worship you.
let me know how that kaiser port comes port comes along. I would love to play around with that in a kitchen.
cheers
btw itje whats the memory situation on your latest rom after a fresh flash for the storage and program memory, both the total and in use...just curious for comparison
Ill give an answer to that later tonight (gmt +1) Im gonna test a new build then
1. I keep reading on these forums that having a 4mb pagepool is a bad thing, or that it may cause problems. Has anyone had any personal experience with it? I currently use the 6mb and don't see any reason to go any lower, but the next Touch-IT rom has a 4mb pagepool already built in so I'm wondering.
2. Has anyone tried this on their Herald/Wing? I can't because this Touch-IT rom that I'm using lacks the Internet Sharing program.
3. I'm becoming more and more interested in cooking, but I'm afraid to try anything because it seems that every kitchen I've downloaded has had a "herald" option but not a Wing option. I've been able to successfully put a Herald rom on the Wing but the keyboard issues bug the heck out of me. Is there a kitchen that takes care of this automatically by giving me a Wing option? Basically, I'm tired of having to clean up the ever useless my5 and fixing all the little bugs by hand.
I have used 4mb pagepool as long as I can remember, never had any problems.
Im starting to wonder if I got the "wonder" p4350, because I never had any of the issues ppl experience with wifi, keymapping, pagepool etc etc, on custom roms.
If you do a search in the wiki, you can find internet sharing progs. The reason I left it out is that many dont use it, few do. So, when I leave it in, ppl complaint why I didnt remove it, and when its out, others complaint why its not there cause they use it all the time..and so on.
Cooking for wing is same setup as p4350, its just diffrent apps, reg edits, and so on.
Good luck with cooking if you gonna try...
btw, I am not providing assistance on "cooking for dummies." Find tutorials on how to cook in this forum.
ALL the info you need to start cooking is provided here on xda-dev. and then some...
good luck
Thanks!
Yea, the cooking I can figure out, it's just the making sure that things match up to the Wing and not just the herald.
Although, I'm still not sure if the effort is worth it as you already make some great roms. I almost feel like just making a customer install file that will setup everything I need instead into whatever rom I'm using at the momment.
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If you do a search in the wiki, you can find internet sharing progs. The reason I left it out is that many dont use it, few do. So, when I leave it in, ppl complaint why I didnt remove it, and when its out, others complaint why its not there cause they use it all the time..and so on.
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I can't believe more people complain about it being missing than it being included. I can understand stuff like Transcriber but MS has made internet sharing so freaking easy with this program it is seamless and takes a matter of seconds to accomplish. I for one am happy they got rid of BT DUN in place of this.
Is there someway I can put it back on? I searched the WIKI and I do not see any free Internet Sharing apps. And I am sure they do not compare to the stock version that comes with WM6.
The Touch It rom is near perfect but Internet Sharing is killing me because I use it to hook up my work laptop while I am at the airport.
Thanks for your efforts and thanks in advance for any suggestions you might have about getting my Internet Sharing back without having to go back to the stock rom.
First off, I think it would be prudent to have a copy of the original Cingular 8125 ROM lying around, just in case anything goes wrong.
Since it's been removed from the HTC site (and is unavailable...I asked HTC tech support), I would like to ask if anyone on this site has the original WM5 Cingular ROM for the 8125?
Second, I have been researching ROMs, and like what I see. It never ceases to amaze me, the effort that is put in by the volunteers here in the XDA community. My sincerest thanks to you all, for keeping these wonderful devices alive and kicking!
In fact, I saw one that I really like the looks of. It has a "drop dead gorgeous" today screen that is inspired by WM7...and then there's the unadorned one that includes the Office suite.
Is there a ROM that combines both? I would cook it myself, but have *no* idea how to do that, yet. I do know that I'd probably run out of space, if I even tried.
My requirements for this phone are simple. I don't do MMS or any of that multimedia crap...I will use it for business and contacts management, and to diagnose/access wi-fi networks. The ability to use the Office suite would also be nice...otherwise a viewer suite. Is there any ROM that would work better for me, than any other?
Thanks!
Chuck
First,you can download the official cingular wm5 rom from this link:-
http://download.america.htc.com/RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1.exe
Secondly,all the cooks build roms to the best of their efforts and include applications/programs they like and are commonly required and used,so if you want a clean rom,then simply flash a vanilla rom and install programs/applications of your own wish and requirement or you can always remove any program which you don't use or desire to have,after you flash an upgraded custom build rom
Well, thank you! I found the official ROM last night, with a bit of searching (always search before asking a question...) but wasn't sure about which ROM to start with.
I did the unlocking, flashed to the TMobile ROM, then chose one of the TouchFlo ROM images. VERY nice. Only significant bug (so far) is that the camera button doesn't work...have to go in through the album and activate it from there.
WM6.1 looks NICE! I'm genuinely impressed with the progress we've made in just a few years, and on the identical hardware! I just wish Microsoft was half as talented as the volunteers here, on this site. It's amazing what y'all have managed to do.
Thank you for such a quick reply.
Chuck
Thanz!
You are most welcome,glade you liked the efforts of cooks here
Grrrrrrrr8! kick ass cookers.....
Hi Chuck,
when you did the unlocking did you downgrade to the button rom first to unlock it? I am having so much trouble trying to get activesync to connect after i downgrade.
Activesync 4.5 on XP Pro. 8125, G3 device.
I downgraded to the Button ROM, then unlocked it. I then reupgraded it to my original Cingular WM5 ROM. (hadn't downloaded the TMo ROM yet). Then, I upgraded to the first of my WM6.1 ROM choices. It worked perfectly.
The instructions are all online...found them all on a single page last night, but I can't find it right now. Didn't bookmark it.
Chuck
Check out this guide:-
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
THAT'S IT!
That's the guide I used to do the downgrade/upgrade. They work perfectly, if you follow them. The only thing I didn't do was use the TMo ROM when I reupgraded to WM5, because I didn't yet have it...I used the Cingular WM5 ROM.
Worked perfectly.
What problem are you having with yours? Perhaps, if you were a little more specific, someone here could help you figure it out...details are always welcome.
Chuck
Hey i'm new here and I could use some help =]
First is that I currently use N95 but next week i'll get my first HTC which is Diamond, and for the first time i'll be using WinMO6.1 instead of Symbian.
So the first thing I do is research, and then I found out this place which I can already see that i'll be spending some good time tweaking my diamond, but after reading countless threads about ROMs and RADIOs and such I still don't get a few things, if you could explain it to me, I would be grateful.
1.Which ROMs are better? cooked (which I understand are user based) or the HTC ones?
2.I Currently live in israel, so hebrew is an important part of my day, so it goes without saying that I need to be able to read and write english. I Don't want the OS to be in hebrew, but atleast beeing able to read and write, so my question is, if I'll flash another ROM instead of the offical one i got from Orange (which contain hebrew), will I lose this option? and if I will, will i be able to install it again?
3.I Understand that the basic UI provided with the diamond is the Touchflo3D, but I also read something about Manilla, and another shell I can't remmember, would anyone care to explain to me about these shells? I Saw one shell that looked exactly like HTC Hero, but it wasn't Android OS, just the UI, Was that Manilla?
and my final request is this, this phone has been around for a long time , so naturally there are alot of ROMs for it and alot of tweaks, softwares and stuff like that, if someone can direct me to the most updated, trusted and stable releases i'd be very grateful!, I need the diamond to have decent battery, good signal, good music player (very important for me) and if possible, i'd love the Theme that looks like the HTC Hero OS .
Thanks to anyone who spent time on reading all of this and I can't wait to get my hands on the diamond
P.S
Sorry for my english by the way.
hey guys my names marc and im pretty much completely new to flashing cooked roms. ive flash oem roms on my tilt before but when it comes to trying to find a good crooked rom or even really just how to do it correctly without bricking my phone im at a lost. Reading all the stuff is starting to make it highly confusing lol. Im really just trying to find a good stable wm 6.5 rom maybe with a couple tweaks for my phone bc im so tired of this basic 6.1 i have on my phone right now with all the gayness that insuades from it with all the bugs and lags. If any of you guys could help that would be awesome. Please help im
So you're saying that the step by step guide is too hard for you to use?
I'm not sure how someone else can help you better, 7 steps aren't that many. I would suggest you not even try to flash roms on this phone if the below link is too difficult to use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
I've only tried a few cooked ROMs with my new (only slightly used by previous owner) Kaiser, but flashed quite a few onto my Elfin, and those experiences give me a good sense of when a WM phone is 'happy' and when it's not. I've settled on following development by ahmedfikry, as his bare-bones WM6.5.3 ROM are really snappy in response, and allow a lot of flexibility for the user to install, or not, any software into main memory (Windows folder) they like. Installing to that folder, rather than the usual \Program Files or onto microSD, is preferable to maintain smooth operation for some kinds of programs, especially important for Today plugins and system enhancing plugins such as SPB shell stuff, etc. Using his fairly simple guide, I found it dead easy to flash. The only hesitation I had was in selecting from the sometimes un-described enhancement CABs in his XDA_UC folder (placed in the microSD root directory, installed automagically on first boot after flashing without any user initiation), as being new to the Kaiser I was not yet familiar with some of these. But there seems nothing overly difficult there, just a bit of research perhaps. I'll tweak my selections further next time I have a few hours to flash and manually customize per my preferences.
His ROM thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618767
I really do highly recommend this version. I need my phone every day for work, and cannot afford a buggy ROM or I'd annoy customers too much. My Elfin sort of kind of died, so the Kaiser is it for me. With this ROM my Kaiser is happy. Next flash, I'll be putting a host of my long time favourite apps into that UC folder, as the Kaiser has plenty of main memory I otherwise don't use.
hey thanks "GerardSamija" yeah i use my tilt for pretty much the same deal. my phoneis my job pretty much i use it to keep up contacts through and make many business related calls and such. so exactilly what i was looking for is rom without to much bloatware and wasnt buggy or laggy so this seems to be a good fit thanks again