Has anyone tried putting/modding the Universal ROM on the XDAIIi. I just wondered if the hardware on the Universal was more like that on the Alpine and we might be able to use it? Just a thought...
impossible to do that
Rom images are made up with specific drivers and cannot be transfered to other models, the inner workings of different models are completely different even if there specs look the same (WiFi etc ...) they are totally incompatible
true that
You can't upgrade directly, but there are people who modifiy ROMS to install on other devices, look at BUZZ and the Blue Angel WM2005 update!
Buzz is willing to design an upgrade for Alpine, but does not own one, so until he does or people donate to help him buy one, it is unlikely that we will see a cooked WM2005 upgrade for Alpine yet!.
Useful link below
http://www.buzzdev.net/
wait until buzz got an alpine....sure he'll play with it....
I have used the Universal WM5 upgrade on my i-mate PDA2,First I Partitioned the Rom to have the full Rom Size 128MB then I copied the nk.nbf from The Universal to the Original i-mate upgrade and used the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe to do the upgrade.
Using all the universal rom did not work and got Model Error.
The Upgrade went all the way very smooth but couldn't hard reset the PDA2.
All I upgraded was the CE image only,Radio And Extended Rom are the old ones.
I used all buttons compinations and stil could not reset the PDA2.
So I went Back to WM2003SE.
This proves that it can be done.!!!!
Maybe it is the extended rom part that stopped it, There is no way so far to unlock the Alpine extended rom.
I hope Buzz can do something about it,I am willing to do all the trials on my PDA2.
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Ok, I will preface this by saying I am a veteran of Wallaby upgrading. I had one of those for a long time and probably used two dozen different ROMs on it. I cooked my own, and I nearly paper-weighted it or the radio stack a gillion times. I can definitely figure things out for myself.
That said, there is very little useful information as to how the upgrade process works with the Blue Angel. For those of us in the US on Cingular with the SX66, we have no update out at all, and we're very much stuck.
Things I don't get:
1. Extended ROM. Actually, I know what it is. What I don't know is, because it exists, does that mean that the base ROM is completely carrier independant? In other words, if I take an Imate or Qtek ROM and install that, but keep my carrier's Ext ROM, will things be the same? (assuming the same language, WWE) Are the base ROMs ever updated, or is it the extended ROM?
2. Where are the tools? The wiki is very out of date, and I don't know what the proper tools are to use. Do I write to an SD card, or do it over USB?
3. Is the radio stack updated by a first run program on the device itself, or is that done from the computer? Do RSU updates come with base ROM updates?
4. There seem to be new security measures taken to hinder our tinkering with the ROMs. How safe is it to change things (for purposes of "going back")? I dunno what else to ask about this...
Feel free to answer any or all of these questions, and for the love of God, don't tell me to search--I did.
Well said, but good luck getting answer around here.
I'll give it a try, but some answer could be plainly wrong, since I don't have a blueangel.
Blueangel and himalaya upgrading are very similar so this page is not so outdated:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaRomkitchen
But the mayor problem is indeed the new encryption method used :
ER2003edit or xda3nbftools don't support it (yet)
thus :
* you can't change the countrycode/language anymore
* you can't change the extended rom ms_.nbf
but the extenderomunlocker still works for Blueangel, although you have to use the Blueangel version, so after an upgrade, you can still manipulate the extended rom on your pda & hard reset.
BlueAngel Extended Rom unlocker
Blue Angel Romkitchen thread
thread about the new encryption
Answers :
1: You probably will get a country code error if you try a nk.nbf from another provider. Base roms and radio rom do get upgrades, but I don't know which one are already available for blueAngel. Base and Radio are carrier independant.
2 : Tools : see links above
3 : see himalayaRomkitchen
4 : You can make a backup on SD, but can't seem to find a link right now.
I just bought the IMATE PDA2K and i am still exploring the device. The first problem i found is that i have a NAVMAN navigation software including the reciever model GPS 4410. I cant connect via bluetooth in the running software and have a fix on the satellite. On the bluetooth manage i can connect and the system finds it. Please can someone help me in this. I am running the second edition of microsoft windows.
I don't know if it might fix your problem but you should look at the imate club site in order to install the new ROM. In the ROM there are some fixs concerning the bluetooth (waiting time and more devices found), battery and other issue.
There have been a lot of negative feedback (check the imate forum to know more) regarding this new rom.
There should be also a One-off patch to fix just the Bluetooth problem (it shoud be available also on this site).
You should just "cook" your own Rom. That way, you can build your own rom just to suit your needs....not everyone's needs in general.
I too have a PDA2K but am running the 1.3.51 WWE w/WMP10, radio version 1.10, B/T build version 3900, w/Siemens SX 66 extended rom from this site. You can use an extended rom of your choice. I use the Cingular ext rom, as my service is with them.
That would help solve alot of your gps and b/t issues.
Do a bit of reading in the "extended rom kitchen" regarding this. There is a wealth of info to be found in this site.
Later...... 8) 8) 8)
p1227 said:
I just bought the IMATE PDA2K and i am still exploring the device. The first problem i found is that i have a NAVMAN navigation software including the reciever model GPS 4410. I cant connect via bluetooth in the running software and have a fix on the satellite. On the bluetooth manage i can connect and the system finds it. Please can someone help me in this. I am running the second edition of microsoft windows.
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hdbueller,
I’ve got a PDA2k and am on Cingular. I’ve been pulling my hair out with this thing trying to figure out how to get a better ROM installed. When I try to install the latest Siemens ROM (with the hack to get past the Country Code Error) I get stopped up with an ERROR 100: DEVICE ID ERROR.
The ROM you describe sounds perfect. Any chance I can score a copy?
The rom has a header with the device ID in it, the seimens is PH20B1 if you downloaded the orginal rom, your device is a PH20B, thus the error.
Back on the ftp site there is a hacked version, lot of people played with it but then went back.
Next there is the thred with media player 10 in it, think this was another cooked version dont remeber what the base was for that rom, think it was the imate EDVO. Lot of reading, get the "final" version, also on ftp.
Hi,
Just wanted to get BT working well on my PDA2k.
Did the Radio upgrade as told in wiki to 1.10 - as I saw a few comments saying 1.12 was unstable.
WEnt through fine, except now I cannot get a phone signal at all and the phone call buttons don't work.
What is the best thing to do? Should I just do the whole upgrade to 1.40. I read that the phone was locking up on this and was not confident to do the fix.
Appreciate your help.
(Going back to 1.22 for now as I have now wasted 4 hours precious work tome just trying to get the device to work as it originally should!)
Russel
W know have 3 threads on the 1.40.
All seem to post errors with that rom in some minor way.
Myself I went for the 1.40 converted to type I and have not added the ext rom (yet). also have 1.12, in all I am happy with it as I have not come across any of those issues (as i dont use the camera, ect). So far Imate makes the best rom IMHO.
MDAIIIUser said:
W know have 3 threads on the 1.40.
All seem to post errors with that rom in some minor way.
Myself I went for the 1.40 converted to type I and have not added the ext rom (yet). also have 1.12, in all I am happy with it as I have not come across any of those issues (as i dont use the camera, ect). So far Imate makes the best rom IMHO.
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MDAIIIUser, which 1.40 rom are you using? The one from the original thread "New Rom 1.40 on FTP" or the one you converted from this thread "BA_WWE_14000_147_11200_Ship" ? There should not be any differences between roms i think, but i find there are some subtle variances. Is it possible that conversion can corrupt the final rom produced? Your converted rom seems to work better for me but still need a soft reset now and then
converted to type I qtek 147.
It could be possible that conversion is corupt but dont think so, check wiki avlible roms and see the passed with new tool. all of these roms have been confirmed to work.
Sure I have issues with this rom but they are carry over from 1.02, 1.22, 1.31 and now 1.40. Most based on alarm issues as well as remove from power were i get locked due to i-pass (i think)
I will do a hex file compare on the 1.40 ce from qtec and see if i see anything.
Type I and Type II
Thanks for the reply - appreciate it.
Which download was it that you used - the one from wiki?
Also what is the difference between type I and type II?
Cheers
Russel
Type I and Type II
Thanks for the reply - appreciate it.
Which download was it that you used - the one from wiki?
I tried to download 1.40 - but got a country error - any suggestions?
Also what is the difference between type I and type II?
Cheers
Russel
Type I and Type II cont'd
Thanks for the reply - sorry a bit slow here.
I get there is a difference between types according to the origin - however how is it relevant? If I am coming from 1.22.162 (Type I) ext ROM should I make sure I only install a ROM upgrade that is type I? :?
Cheers
Russel
Clear text.
Type I roms work with tool xda3nbtool.exe
Tpye II roms give you a header error when used with tool.
Thus you can only upgrade type I roms unless you know the country code fix that seems to work.
Wiki is my prefered choice for downloading roms, in the case of the 1.40 I used the thread to download the converted 1.40 to type I rom which was not hard for me as I posted it. (its the qtek 1.40.147)
Thanks
Thanks MDAIIIuser. It is clear now.
Regards
Russel
MDAIIIUser, i saw your reply in another thread after comparing the 1.40 roms. How about the first 1.40 rom posted in this file BA_1.40_radio_1.20_untested_extrom.rar on the ftp? This should be the same as all the others right? I seem to have had fewer problems with this rom than the converted to type I qtek 147. My main problem seems to be turning the phone on after being in flight mode, losing network signal and GPRS sometimes not connecting. All need a soft reset to resolve. The from BA_1.40_radio_1.20_untested_extrom.rar gave me problems when trying to turn on wifi. Im using radio 1.12.
efjay
It takes me just over an hour to download roms of this site which I know is my problem.
I dont like working with baked roms as I can't post them to wiki as they are not complete,
I can't cook the Ext Rom as it to is not original,
I can't post the ext rom in wiki
and thus the hour download is a waste of my time.
I seem to spend enough time updating wiki and finding new roms on the web so sorry the answer is no I wont check that rom untill I see a original ship.exe.
You could though
MDAIIIUser, sure i would be happy to. Im not too sure what tool i should use to do a comparison. Im reading wiki, if its there ill find it. thanks
My choice would be ultracompare
http://www.ultraedit.com/
you will notice that the header is different this is due to the file timestamp and date.
Windows media player v10
MDAIIIuser or anyone else.
I upgraded my CE ROM to 1.40, however I cannot get windows media player to pick up any of my music files as valid .wma files. It also seems to be endlessly looking for a skin.
Any suggestions?
Cheers
Russel
read something about that in one of the 3 threads on the 1.40 (well I think I did)
How to fix
DId a search for WMP problems - couldn't find anything useful at a quick glance. Any ideas how to resolve it?
Cheers
Russel
MDAIIIUser, i downloaded ultracompare and can see there are differences with all the 1.40 roms but the output doesnt make sense to me. I guess ill try all the roms and if there is a difference it should show up. thanks for your help
I have a PDA2K I bought from Expansys a couple months ago and I use it in the US with TMobile. I upgraded the BT to .0035 and last night upgraded the Radio to 1.10. I'd like to upgrade the ROM from 1.22.126 to 1.?. I've read every upgrade post in here and that is where I think I went wrong. I'm really confused on what I need to upgrade to now. Too much information.
Given the above information, can someone tell me what version is best for me? I looked on the FTP site and there was too many choices for this little newbie.
Thanks,
Tom
The highest is 1.40 with radio 1.12, there are 4 threads on the 1.40 and it seems a lot of people are going back to the 1.3x manich cooked or 1.31 arabic.
Its a free world, do what you feel is best.
Since I've seen your name all over the place, accompanied by very authoritative posts, can you "recommend" which one I should use? I'd like to go with the 1.4, but I'm not sure what file(s) exactly I need. I thought I did, but as I started reading more and more threads I got more confused. It seems like there are a couple different 1.4s out there. I already upgraded my BT and Radio, but I'm not sure if I need the ROM and/or the Extended ROM. I've looked at the various files on the FTP site and I get confused....my wife says it happens often with me.
While I've seen HOW to do it, I'm not sure WHICH one I need. Might you be kind enough to point out what I need?
Thanks,
Tom
Ce rom
On wiki download the qtec 1.40 type I CE Rom only file (avalible roms)
on wiki in the radio upgrade ->download the type I upgrade files
on wiki in getting started download the ->xda3nbtool.exe as welll as -> fix bat.
Put them all in the same dir, Fix and then flash the rom as per wiki.
EXt Rom
Now you need the ext rom 1.40.147 in the kitchen availble roms
on wiki download -> unlock tool in kitchen tools
Unlock, flush old, add new, add your cust cabs, lock Hard reset.
BT 1.39 is part of 1.40 rom so DONT cook those files in your ext rom.
I want to try out some different roms out there, I have a friend who uses the phone for pictures, sms, and email, and calls of course. So she really doesn't need all the bells and whistles, but Touch-Flo is always a nice addition.
The default T-Mo rom is so overkill, and the phone runs slow as hell. I'm looking to find a rom that gives the best preformance. I don't know if that would be the best option with the roms I've found my doing some backdating. I figured maybe someone out there has an idea how to get the best usage for the phone.
In this forum there are 2 great roms. One by PDAviet and one called Touch_It. I would get the file called RUU-Altas and then try both of these 2 cooked roms.
You might find one suites you better than the other. The reason for the RUU file is because if you have the T-Mobile Wimg (im assuming since you are posting in the Herald section) then you will need this in case you brick your phone. Before you do anything to your phone or anyone elses phone i highly recommend you read. Might save you alot more time then trying to do a plug and play with anything on this site.
Noone of the software here is licensed through HTC or Windows so its completely test at your own risk.
Good luck
Well, so far I have one sucessful rom change on my own wing. So thats one run through.
But when you say RUU (I'm not sure what that stands for) Atlas, I see one thats t-mo. From my understanding the RUU is a rom of the original image that you get when you start the wing straight out of the box.?
RUU stands for Rom Update Utility. It is used for update your device asa a new ROM version is issued.
You need an original ROM update package in order to recover your device in case it gets bricked.
Please note that the chance of bricking a device is not that rare. I flashed my device just yesterday with an original WWE ROM (instead of ITA) and an error occurred on the first try => Bricked device!!
So I had to "unbrick" my phone with the original ITA rom before giving the WWE update another try. It worked flawlessly on the second run.
Ciao