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Hi fellows,
I was wondering about the small grill holes on front of the Alpine cradle since I am using it. today I have finally opened it and that was a dissapointment, there was nothing attached to that grill as I was thinking it could be a microphone or a speaker. Have a look.
Cheers
Sidd
Ha!
Thank you for doing that. It was something I'd wondered too!
My question to you now is....
...did your cradle still work when you put it back together? lol
Yeh mate, it is working absolutely fine.
Cheers
Sidd
are there some adjustable elements? I am thinking, why my 4500mA battery does not work with it max capacity... It can not charge fully.
No Server, there were not any adjustable switches or jumper at all. This is just a simple 2 PCB cradle as you can see in the picture, 2 PCB (printed Circuit Board) one for phone and other for battery (indivisually).
Try to check your FULLY CHARGED battery with a voltage checking machine (Multi meter) and see if the mentioned "mAh & VDC" are giving the correct output, if not and if you have bought it recently, then try to talk to the seller.
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=46455&criteria=multi meter&doy=23m4
:idea: GoodLuck :idea:
Sidd
pins 2 ad 3 via wich charge is going reports me 0v...
My multimeter can not see any voltage on them at all!!!
Both battery somehow senses precence of the phone(so, in phone it works)...
Is this possible with this multimeter: http://www.multimeterwarehouse.com/dt830b.htm
If the phone is detecting the batteries that means obviously the batteries has got voltage in them, seems like you are not using the right setting on your multimeter, try to check any normal AA (normal household) battery and see if the multimeter is showing anything.
GoodLuck
Sidd
Yes, on normal battery and even on Siemens SX1's battery voltage shows.
But no voltage on Qtek battery. Using pin 2 and 3, 20V DCV setting on the multimeter.
I got a serial cradle some time back to permit me to sync. to Virtual PC (since the Connectix version didn't support USB). I was also curious so I looked - on the serial cradle, there IS a microphone behind the grill. I've not been able to do much with it but it is there.
Hi server sorry for the late reply mate.
Ok The problem is I haven't got any multimeter with me at the moment, I might go to some electric shop to try one. I will let you know as soon as I got something.
Cheers
Sidd
Second Battery Slot - Does it Work?
sidd,
Do you know if the spare battery slot actually charges a battery if you put one in?
Kind regards.
Yes it absolutely does charge the battery, it also indicate by an ORANGE light where written "Aux Battery", and turns GREEN once fully charge.
Sidd
Thanks sidd ...
Bu$$er. Mine must be broken. It has never worked, never lit Aux light, any colour. Is there any selection I might have missed, or is it most likely a duff cradle, would you say?
Kind regards,
viffer
The second slot will only charge if you have the power supply plugged in, it won't work off the USB alone. I have three cradles (two USB, one serial) - they all behave the same.
Alpine Cradle 2nd Battery Slot
sidd/mtbsoft
All working now thanks. I had been using a gash multi-voltage power supply from Tandy. When I brought the original O2 power pack down from the bedroom and swapped it, everything worked fine.
Thanks all.
anytime mate,
good luck
Those grills are for a microphone but this is not included in the standard cradle supplied with the phone. You have to order the special cradle from an O2 supplier. The spare jack socket at the rear is also designed to connect to external stereo speakers but again is missing in the standard cradle. Considering the price of the XDA it is sad to think they removed these minor items so that we would need to order another cradle at $60 if we wanted to use our XDAs as desktop music players. They saved a dollar in costs and removed much of the funtionality of the cradle.....
Bit **** that, ain't it. :/
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Those grills are for a microphone but this is not included in the standard cradle supplied with the phone. You have to order the special cradle from an O2 supplier. The spare jack socket at the rear is also designed to connect to external stereo speakers but again is missing in the standard cradle. Considering the price of the XDA it is sad to think they removed these minor items so that we would need to order another cradle at $60 if we wanted to use our XDAs as desktop music players. They saved a dollar in costs and removed much of the funtionality of the cradle.....
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Now this might be pushing it but, it seems we have some chaps here that aren't to daft when it comes to electronics?! So what I'm thinking if someone has the cradle that does have the mic etc in it, then we could have a butchers at theirs, and retro fit ours?
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I got a serial cradle some time back to permit me to sync. to Virtual PC (since the Connectix version didn't support USB). I was also curious so I looked - on the serial cradle, there IS a microphone behind the grill. I've not been able to do much with it but it is there.
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I don't suppose you fancy taking the base off again?
I wonder if you could compare the insides of you serial cradle that has the mic with the insides of a USB that doesn't.
The reason I ask is I'm wondering if we'd find that everything is there for the mic/speaker on the USB version, just the mic is missing. If that was a case its easy to get hold of a mic and add it in yourself.
This has all suddenly reminded me of a article I saw when I first got my XDA, some chap saying that he was doing hands free at his desk using the cradle.
Tom
Okay, I'm stumped. I'm already getting a replacement device from HTC under warranty so my problem is solved, but like many of you, I HATE NOT HAVING AN EXPLANATION FOR THINGS!
I'm also wondering if anyone else has had this problem? About 10-Days ago my Kaiser (Tilt) stopped charging via the automotive charger. The A-C charger works fine, but the vehicle charger sent to me with my device from AT&T completely stopped charging my device. I went to the AT&T store & bought a new charger, It didn't work. I changed power points, & cigarette lighter in the vehicle &, it wouldn't work. I tried the charger in the vehicle of two different AT&T sales guys & also tried multiple chargers, & it wouldn't work. Is there any reason why the unit would lose it's ability to charge via a vehicle charger while still retaining it's ability to charge through USB to computer & through the A/C home charger? It seems to me that if the charge portion of the MB was fried, then all charging would be affected.
So how can my device charge fine through all means EXCEPT the vehicle charger?
Again, AT&T is sending me a new device, but I hate not having an explanation for the problem, drives me Nucking Futs!!!
Any ideas, anyone?
Thx!
I dont want to sound rude but have you checked your power settings?
Under the "Advanced" it has a option for "When device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the PC."
If this is ticked it will not charge via the in car charger.
It's a known issue, not just with the Tilt
I had the same problem with my Axim X50 and X51v.
The original sync/charge cable wouldn't charge from the car's lighter, while non-branded cables did so without any problems at all.
This happened with other Axims as well, so I know that it wasn't a defective unit.
I then purchased an HP Ipaq HW6910, and encountered the same issue with my wife's Mazda 5 - the HW6910 woudn't charge if the cable was connected to the charger, when I started the car. It only worked if the adapter and cable were disconnected while staring the car. This did not happen with my Mazda 3 or my Mitsubishi.
And another thing I discovered, is that some cables are not designed for use with car chargers, but they work perfectly with AC chargers.
I bought a couple of retracting sync/charge cables for my HW6910, they worked only when connected to the mains. But regular cables worked perfectly with both power sources.
Jygar said:
I dont want to sound rude but have you checked your power settings?
Under the "Advanced" it has a option for "When device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the PC."
If this is ticked it will not charge via the in car charger.
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OF COURSE I DID.
Yeah, It charges fine from the PC, & from an A/C source. But the HTC TYTNII car charger that came with my device, as well as replacement car chargers don't work.
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I had the same problem with my Axim X50 and X51v.
The original sync/charge cable wouldn't charge from the car's lighter, while non-branded cables did so without any problems at all.
This happened with other Axims as well, so I know that it wasn't a defective unit.
I then purchased an HP Ipaq HW6910, and encountered the same issue with my wife's Mazda 5 - the HW6910 woudn't charge if the cable was connected to the charger, when I started the car. It only worked if the adapter and cable were disconnected while staring the car. This did not happen with my Mazda 3 or my Mitsubishi.
And another thing I discovered, is that some cables are not designed for use with car chargers, but they work perfectly with AC chargers.
I bought a couple of retracting sync/charge cables for my HW6910, they worked only when connected to the mains. But regular cables worked perfectly with both power sources.
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Funny, I just ran out to the truck & grabbed one of the guys Blackberry chargers & it looked like it was working. But SK Tools reports an even bigger (negative) amp draw (like discharging twice the normal rate). So with the BB charger it dischages even faster. Maybe reversed polarity Guess I should've checked first. That's a moot point now though as I await my new unit. Weird though.
Well i was using a BB charger that worked fine up until this morning. i bought my phone when it first came out so it wasnt easy to find a charger made for it at the time. i never had a problem until today. i also noticed that the Usb terminal on my device was bent. i called htc but they charge way too much to fix it. i have no idea how or when the terminal broke but it does still charge when pluged into pc or into the wall. ill have to spend $80 to have ppctechs fix it.
wassup, i`m in SF Cali, I had a att 8525 that was doing the same thing. I assumed it was the phone when it 1st started happening. After a week or so it was bothering me so i started playing with it trying to figure out if it was a setting, bad flash, or hardware. I noticed that if the phone was off it wood charge but not if it was on. I started flashing my phone and testing (for trouble shooting purposes) and for the first 2 or 3 roms problem still existed, then one of the roms i flashed to would turn on the back light as if it was charging but no LED or charge, when this started happening I realized that if i turned my fone off it wood start charging and continue to charge when i booted the fone back up. So if when i got in the car i pluged in/ shutdown/ waited like 45 sec or 1 min. / then booted it would temp. fix the problem for as long as my fone was on the cable. At some point after that many weeks/roms later i noticed it was working correctly again, So I had decided it was a glitch in the rom, But i`m not a Dev. or fone guru so I really dont know what it was, but hope this helps someone.... PEACE!! ~bboyphrog1~beatz`n pieces krooh~
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Well i was using a BB charger that worked fine up until this morning. i bought my phone when it first came out so it wasnt easy to find a charger made for it at the time. i never had a problem until today. i also noticed that the Usb terminal on my device was bent. i called htc but they charge way too much to fix it. i have no idea how or when the terminal broke but it does still charge when pluged into pc or into the wall. ill have to spend $80 to have ppctechs fix it.
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The slight diagonal slant on the bottom right? It's supposed to be like that. All AT&T Tilts (and I'd assume TyTN II's, but I've never had one to compare) have a mini-usb port that looks that way.
i looked at a 8525 and the usb terminal was straight. i even took a pencil and straightened mine out. it should be bent. that wouldn't make sense because the charges slot is not bent. i think the problem is that one side of the terminal is not soldered to the board and can easily be broken. in another thread 3 people have the same issue. as far as the car charger goes ill do some testing but until today it was charging fine while the phone was on.
this issue is known ,it even happens with the htc tynt.... by simlpy rebooting while in the charger it starts working again ..at least with mine.
I've had the same problem. I went to the lcoal AT&T store and they said they never heard of it so I thought it was just me. It looks like many of you have the issue. I wish I knew what it was. It was really bad with my 8525,
i thought Faria developed a cab to fix this issue in the hermes forum? might be worth having a search for it and when i get home i will see if i have a copy on my pc.
any of you guys get anywhere with this? I have exactly the same problem. posted in a couple of other threads actually.
Not sure whether the usb port is damaged, but it's certainly is slightly "down" on the right hand side.
It charges perfectly on the mains and perfectly from usb, but not in the car.
I have used a normal car charger, spent £50 on a Carcomm powered mount and tried one of the separate chargers that you plug the standard mini usb cable into. Nothing works. This is driving me crazy (if you'll excuse the pun!) a the primary reason I bought the Kaiser, was for GPS.
Thanks
well i also just found out 2 of my minisync cables dont work anymore. 1 of them still charges the phone but neither of them sync the phone anymore. it still syncs fine through a normal usb cable.
I am using a moto Razr car charger and it works fine so far.
Okay, confirmed on my replacement Tilt: The USB port is arrow straight. Someone earlier mentioned it being lower on the right side & indeed my DEAD DEVICE was as such. Looks like a bad job of connecting the port to the device.
NOTE!!!!!!
It's a good idea to take a look at your charger before you plug it in to make sure the charger USB connector is not bent or mi-sshappened.
i have the same problem i went through 4 att car chargers adn 5 phones. They are crap. Its not the phone its the charger if you play with it you will see that it comes and goes. The end tip on the charger is bad doesnt make a good connection. i have yet to find a good car charger.
Mine stopped charging using the car charger supplied and a brodit. A friend's kaiser charges OK with the same chargers.
No-one has mentioned it in this thread, but my phone, shows "charging" in the battery control panel and the LED lights up to confirm this. The percentage charge value decreases as though it isn't being charged!
As others have done I noticed that the corner of the plastic centre of the connector nearest the reset hole was slightly bent and I assume (though can't remember doing so) that I missed the reset hole with the stylus tip and pushed it in. Menu driven resets for me from now on!
HTC Europe didn't know anything about this fault, so seem to be happy to repair / replace it under warranty. It's with them at the moment, so I'll have to wait and see.
RSVRover
faria said:
this issue is known ,it even happens with the htc tynt.... by simlpy rebooting while in the charger it starts working again ..at least with mine.
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that didnt work for me. only one of my chargers work now.
RSVRover said:
Mine stopped charging using the car charger supplied and a brodit. A friend's kaiser charges OK with the same chargers.
No-one has mentioned it in this thread, but my phone, shows "charging" in the battery control panel and the LED lights up to confirm this. The percentage charge value decreases as though it isn't being charged!
As others have done I noticed that the corner of the plastic centre of the connector nearest the reset hole was slightly bent and I assume (though can't remember doing so) that I missed the reset hole with the stylus tip and pushed it in. Menu driven resets for me from now on!
HTC Europe didn't know anything about this fault, so seem to be happy to repair / replace it under warranty. It's with them at the moment, so I'll have to wait and see.
RSVRover
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Please let me know the outcome. mine is getting worse by the day.
Now I'm confused.
Because the device charges over USB I just assumed it would draw <500mA (the max output of a USB port) but the specs say it draws up to one amp.
Having owned a high-drawing device before (Axim x50v) I know that trying to pull this out of a USB port can blow your motherboard. So are these safe to charge over USB??? How does the device know whether its being charged over USB or mains - are there different charging pins on the connector?
ok i bought a new battery because my last battery drained and wouldnt charge back up. and now wen i charge my phone it just drains as if it wasnt plugged into the wall charger.
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ok i bought a new battery because my last battery drained and wouldnt charge back up. and now wen i charge my phone it just drains as if it wasnt plugged into the wall charger.
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I had a problem where the Tilt wouldn't charge until I deleted a waiting voicemail and a few unread emails. This was on a cooker ROM but check it out.
Hope that helps.
check the connector on the phone and see if it is broken I remember on my first two tilts it broke and I had to get new ones (warranty) and then the third ones broke but i used a small screwdriver and put the pieces together again.
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ok i bought a new battery because my last battery drained and wouldnt charge back up. and now wen i charge my phone it just drains as if it wasnt plugged into the wall charger.
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Don't throw away your old battery because it's probably not to blame and you can then have a spare. How does it go if you attempt to charge via a USB cable connected to the PC? Will it still connect via Activesync over USB? Do you still get the orange light on the left of the phones earpiece when you're attempting to charge it? These are some steps that'll help to narrow down whats going on - let us know.
Had this problem using on of the original M2d (roms).
Now im running hyper dragon w/ m2d cab and all is well. Ive also experience this from a bent pin. (dont drink coffee for 1 day prior to attempting mini-usb surgery!)
umm.. when connected to the charger the orange light is on i bought a charger on ebay and it charges the batteries up so now i have two batteries using one as a spare when one is charging. the usb doesnt seem to be broken. a lil background i spilled water on it a lil while back but the phone works fine i have a feeling that that may have something to do with not being able to charge but why would the light switch over to orange then when i charge it. sorry if this seems really noooob
My Kaiser failed recently with not being able to charge. Most of the time it didn't charge but if you wiggled the connector around the charge light came on, then went off moments later as the connection/wire combo moved. I contacted Orange and they sent me a replacement. No problems since.
Most of the time my PDA goes into a charging cradle but when that fails I use the car charger/other mains lead.
As for being a Noob, we all have to start somewhere
My Kaiser failed recently with not being able to charge. Most of the time it didn't charge but if you wiggled the connector around the charge light came on, then went off moments later as the connection/wire combo moved. I contacted Orange and they sent me a replacement. No problems since.
Most of the time my PDA goes into a charging cradle but when that fails I use the car charger/other mains lead.
As for being a Noob, we all have to start somewhere
My fix
Stuck my stylus in there by mistake and could only cvharge if i wrapped the cord around.
I recently bought a rechargable battery pack for my daughters wii, and it came with two usb cords (from target $26.99), and one day i plugged my tilt in and it charged no problem, been using this ever since (November to now).
Cnn.cn sells the usb part of the phone, Im just to afraid to solder the old one off and the new one on. Might try it one day!
I have the same problem currently. I plug in and the light comes on, but the battery does not charge. I'm waiting to borrow a friends battery so I can reflash to standard to send back to HTC!
I got my phone wet last week and I am having the exact same problem. I have a battery charger and 2 batteries so I am doing the same thing as you but it's getting a bit old.
I dont have a warrany so I'm hoping to find some good ideas here as to what (if anything) can be tried.
Update:
I decided to crack open the case tonight and take a look inside. Unfortunately I couldn't find any youtube video tutorials so I had to just go carefully and not force anything. I ended up only having to take apart the motherboard side (keyboard side). Once I had the phone completely apart, I taped a known good battery in and connected the charger. A physical inspection passed, no burns or shorts that I could see and no funny smells. After about 30 minutes of charge time, I unplugged the charger and the battery power had increased 10%. Sweet.
It turns out that the battery I had in the phone when it got wet may have been ruined though. That one will not charge even in a standalone battery charger. That's allot cheaper than the alternatives I was thinking about though. The Fuze was really calling my name today for a couple hours. Saving $500 though feels pretty good.
Hello I have a very serious problem whit my Kaiser it doesn't charge, only on usb. I have a PDA charger, and a car charger(may be this is it's name) but they don't charge my kaiser.
I upgrade the radio recently and than i upgrade the rom. After that i discovered that problem.
Moreover the mini usb connection port on my PDA is in bad condition.
Perhaps that is the problem?
Please answer me.
If the miniusb port is in bad condition, it could be the port that is the issue.
Normally, if only one charger isnt working, I would say it is possible that the power supply on the charger is either sub-par or no longer working correctly. However, if your car charger isn't charging it either, that is a bit odd.
Was everything working properly until you began flashing things, or is it possible you just did not notice it until now?
EDIT: I misunderstood the OP and posted incorrect advice, please ignore this comment.
Well, before the flash the PDA charged both with the car carger and the regular charger.
But in the past I saw, when I plug the charger into the Mini usb port the PDA's led become orange (you know that's mean the charge) but the battery's power was the same after 2 hours. And now I connected again and the led wasn't change...:S But the usb carged my PDA 100% for the morning...
Well neither the chargers aren't the HTS's official chargers and the PDA isn't charge eith them when I turn of.
But it's charge from the USB. I can't understand it...
Sorry I have no idea, this is out of my league, I'm a noob
Wish I could help.
I have had the exact same issue since six months ago, and MiniDevil is probably correct.
If you look closely on the miniUSB jack on your phone one of the contact (golden) pins should be bent down, rather than up (if you are looking it with your phone's screen facing up). On mine is the rightmost pin.
When this first occurred I went to various repair centers and unfortunately no one could offer me a fix. You should check your local repair centers, maybe you have better luck.
I don't know what works differently from a USB port to a USB AC Charger. Maybe someone can clarify this part.
Good luck to you sir.
- Jim
Thanx all the answers
seriously? the usb works but the ac chargers don't because of the pins?! gahh. the igo might work...they tested it out at an att store for me, i just dont know which it is..i probably have to go back..
I replaced the screen on my phone myself but somehow i lost the little flap that goes over the touchscreen connector, does anyone know where i could find a replacement piece for that? Or if there is something else i might be able to substitute for that?
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I replaced the screen on my phone myself but somehow i lost the little flap that goes over the touchscreen connector, does anyone know where i could find a replacement piece for that? Or if there is something else i might be able to substitute for that?
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I have no clue, but chances are it is some kind of insulator, could you not make something out of paper or card?
And your subject says response problem? Try a screen calibration.
Yea i tried a screen calibration but it always fails though. I was thinking about trying a card or something but i didnt know if it would be safe to use tape on that part of the phone, i might have to send it to Dell
Why start two threads on the same issue? and this one is in the wrong forum.
Because my computer was messing up so i wasnt even sure if this one even posted, is it really bothering u that much?
Yes, it bothers us that much.
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App
I have a question about the screen... I have a big problem with it...
So my battery often runs empty. So I need to charge at several places - at the computer, in bed, in my girlfriends house.. so i bought some usb-cables for the streak... and some usb ac adaptors, like for iphone, with 12V and 1000 mah output.
So, now the problem: The cables aren'T original, but they work great. When i charge the phone with the original charger and a faked cable, also no problem. But if i use any cable with a non-original ac-usb adaptor, the screen bekomes unusable. if you want to delete a letter in a sms than, you write a m and a b und strange words, i can see the swype-line doing what it wants. same on homescreen, cant press the right icons. if i unplug the charger, everythin works fine again. i also compared the data of the original dell charger and the alternative one, same output and mah-number....
Have you ever heard of this problem?
And most important, do you know how to solve it? (please don't tell me to buy an original charger, i dont want to wast 40 € for this....
Yes, same problem with Wagan Home/Car ac/dc charger ONLY when AC charging. Probably isn't good for device, but I've never had any battery problems. Screen issues go away as soon as charger is unplugged. I just don't use the device screen when it is on that charger AC only. Works fine in car (DC).
Okay, I won't tell you that the only way to avoid it is to use the Dell factory charger (but it is)
kraz
Well, it is not, just tried the ac adaptor from my sister, worked fine
That screen behavior is caused by unfiltered output of adaptor (china, is it?).
Can be at least partially solved by using a ferrite ring or USB cable that already has one.
For example:
http://www.dataq.com/products/hardware/accessories/fc.htm
for this orice, i can also buy a new adaptor and hope that this helps
but thanks for the info
(and no, it's from great britain, but made in china )
RadioShack part #273-0067 2/bag $3.19. I realize most recent poster is from UK. This info is for anyone in USA having the same problem. One on each end of usb cable gets rid of 85-90% of interference, and makes screen usable while charging with non-original (Wagan) charger.
kraz
RadioShack part #273-0067
I replaced the screen on my dell streak myself but somehow i lost the little flap that goes over the touchscreen connector , it has 6 pins
And its call ribbon connector i thing?
can anyone help me find this part
i appriciate it
thanks
i had the same problem. I cut a tiny piece of a business card (make sure its a sturdy one though and not regular paper). Place the cut piece over the connector but under those gold pins. works just fine now
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I replaced the screen on my dell streak myself but somehow i lost the little flap that goes over the touchscreen connector , it has 6 pins
And its call ribbon connector i thing?
can anyone help me find this part
i appriciate it
thanks
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Try with "dellstreakrepairs.co.uk"