Did you know you can enable the GPS functionality in the new-generation Pocket PC phone, the HTC Trinity (HTC P3600) with a simple, easy, free ROM upgrade? Did you know the latest ROM upgrade offers a significantly lowered boot-in time and slightly decreased (albeit still very bad) A2DP CPU usage, more wireless icons (E for Edge) and, last but not least, SDHC compatibility? If you didn’t but would certainly enjoy the advantages of the built-in GPS unit and the other goodies of the new ROM, make sure you do the following:
download the SSPL-TRIN.zip utility linked in from the first post of this thread (note that you’ll need to register yourself in the XDA-Dev forums to be able to access the file)
download the new ROM upgrade from here (Pacific users may also want to give a try to this Chinese source to see if it’s faster)
decompress both files. From the first, transfer SSPL-TRIN.exe to your PDA and execute it there, after disconnecting your Trinity from your desktop. You’ll see the standard rainbow-color bootup screen.
now, start the large RUU_Trinity_DOPODASIA_WWE_1.23.707.6_6275_1.35.00.11_108_Ship.exe file on the desktop, press the OK / Update / Yes buttons until it gets to flashing the new ROM.
It worked for everyone so far. Note that if there is “Serial” at the bottom third of the rainbow bootloader screen of the Trinity, the desktop PC won’t likely to recognize it. Then, just reset the PDA and, after booting in, just restart SSPL-TRIN.exe. You’ll need to see “USB” for the PDA to be recognized.
Warranty issues
Note that, by upgrading, you MAY lose your warranty, depending on where you've initially purchased your Trinity from. However, as you can flash back a ROM of your operator any time (assuming they DO come out with any publicly available ROM version), this isn’t really an issue most of the time.
Also note that, as SSPL-TRIN doesn’t remove the CID lock (unlike with the older and expensive IMEI-Check service), you won’t have problems with the service folks because of the lack of the CID lock. This is also a huge advantage over the IMEI-Check method.
Advantages
I’ve already listed the major advantages of the new version; most importantly, the enabled GPS functionality. Having GPS support in your phone is just unbeatable. Note that you must use the port COM9:. Also note that you may not want to run for example iGo to find the GPS port automatically because it’ll spend a LOT of time in doing so – just give it COM9: right at the beginning, and you’re all set.
As has already been pointed out, the boot-in time has been significantly reduced between the initial HTC ROM version (1.15.405.5 dated 10/23/2006) and the this one (1.23.707.6, 02/08/2007); according to my tests, it’s 39 seconds now, as opposed to the original 45 seconds. Getting better and better (albeit still can't beat the 36 seconds of the AKU3 HTC Wizard!)
I’ve also made some serious benchmarks with the new version to see whether the problematic areas (digitizer handling, A2DP CPU usage) have been fixed. Unfortunately, they aren’t – read on to see what the problem is!
Acute problems with the HTC Trinity
The excellent XDA-Developers community, lately, has been complaining about two special issues regarding the HTC Trinity, the, in my opinion, best HTC 2.8” Pocket PC right now. Having just received a Trinity myself, I’ve thoroughly scrutinized these problems.
Touchscreen CPU usage issues
(Also see this thread)
Unfortunately, it seems all 2.8” WM5 HTC QVGA Pocket PC phones are particularly sensitive to long-pressing the touchscreen. While none of the other Pocket PC models I’ve tested (HP iPAQ 2210, HP iPAQ hx4700 running WM5, Dell Axim x51v , Fujitsu-Siemens Pocket Loox 720 and the HTC Universal) exhibited any increased CPU usage while constantly keeping the stylus down on the touchscreen, both the 2.8” WM5 HTC Wizard and the HTC Trinity did. The, otherwise, almost-zero CPU usage of gwes.exe raised, on the (non-overclocked) former, to around 17% and about 36% on the latter. This is why, for example, action games like K-Rally or Skyforce (Unlimited) will become next to unplayable when, as is recommended, played with the stylus.
This issue is the same in even the latest (Dopod) Trinity ROM version and should be addressed by HTC as soon as possible. It’s hopefully a driver issue and, therefore, can be fixed in software.
(Note that, again, different HTC phone models exhibit different level of excess CPU usage because of the problem. The new, quick Trinity suffers a lot from the bug, the older, “slow” Wizard suffers a lot less, particularly when it’s overclocked (when overclocked to 240 MHz, games like K-Rally become really enjoyable with the stylus). This, however, doesn’t mean ALL “old” (TI CPU-based) HTC phones fare much better than ALL “new” (Samsung CPU-based) HTC phones – other new, Samsung-based models may behave fat better in this respect.
I really hope HTC really soon addresses this issue as it’s almost completely renders some? several? of their models almost useless for stylus-based action gaming and unnecessarily increases the power consumption.)
A2DP CPU usage issues
Unfortunately, there is another major Achilles’ heel with all Trinity ROM’s released so far: the A2DP CPU usage.
While the built-in A2DP doesn’t consume much CPU cycles in the other HTC phones I’ve tested (for example, on the HTC Wizard, even at the original 195 MHz, it hardly exceeds 30%), the Trinity is an exception. When playing music via A2DP, the CPU usage when used in the default (mono) mode is 52.5%, in stereo mode, 49.5%. (With the original ROM version, the figures were 54% and 51%, respectively – as can be seen, the new version has slightly improved upon the situation, but it’s still much worse than with most other devices.) This is another issue HTC should look into as soon as possible, because it makes the device almost useless as an A2DP player.
(A quick note: the A2DP defaults to mono in this device. If you’re familiar with the Registry and have already read my older A2DP-related articles, you will know HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ SOFTWARE\ Microsoft\Bluetooth\ A2DP\Settings\ UseJointStereo also introduced in my article The A2DP support & sound quality & power consumption of the Microsoft and Widcomm BT stack compared; a lot of new A2DP info. With the Trinity, it’s set to 1 by default; you’ll want to change its value to 0.
If you feel unsafe about editing the Registry, you can also use the excellent, free HTweakC tool. I highly recommend it for all Trinity, Wizard and TyTN users.)
Widcomm BT stack compliance?
Unfortunately, as was the case with the original HTC Trinity ROM, neither the Dell Axim WM5 x50/x51 / HTC Wizard nor the HTC Universal Widcomm Bluetooth stacks work with the new ROM. This is very bad news: first, the Microsoft Bluetooth stack as of AKU3 has still bad sound quality with a lot of Bluetooth stereo headphones; second, the Widcomm BT stack would consume considerably less power on the Trinity (I’d say the third of that of the current MS BT stack.)
Verdict
I’m really sorry about HTC’s leaving so bad bugs in the firm- and/or software of this model – the Pocket PC I, otherwise, recommend the most of today’s Pocket PC’s. While upgrading to the new ROM version is HIGHLY recommended for most people, you still won’t be able to play fast-paced action games and should think twice before using the built-in A2DP sound transfer.
Recommended links
My older A2DP-related articles. I also recommend the two reports I’ve posted today about the news: here and here.
Thanks for your excellent work here!
I really appreciate what you do for the Trinity communitiy!
Thanks for a great summary.... nice to have it all in one post, one of my disadvantages with the Trinity is the bad performance with xvid in coreplayer, due to the ATI graphic chip...
MP3/Audio quality
I've read that some users have experienced highly degraded audio quality after upgrading to the latest test Dopod ROM. Has this final ROM corrected this issue?
psargent said:
...MP3 quality is GREATLY degraded after upgrading to the test rom. Used to be rich with plenty of bass when plugged into my car aux input when I was using HTC rom, now it sounds like I am listening through a tin can!!! Sounds like most of the lower frequencies are not being sent out of the audio output...
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prsnow said:
I've read that some users have experienced highly degraded audio quality after upgrading to the latest test Dopod ROM. Has this final ROM corrected this issue?
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I've only checked it through (the crappy) A2DP, not via a wired headset - I couldn't notice any sound degradaton, iot sounded equally bad than with other MS BT stack A2DP implemenations.
Are you sure about SDHC being now supported? From other reports it seems that the problem with disappearing files and folders on 4GB SDHC cards is still there.
Menneisyys said:
Did you know you can enable the GPS functionality in the new-generation Pocket PC phone, the HTC Trinity (HTC P3600) with a simple, easy, free ROM upgrade? Did you know the latest ROM upgrade offers a significantly lowered boot-in time and slightly decreased (albeit still very bad) A2DP CPU usage, more wireless icons (E for Edge) and, last but not least, SDHC compatibility? If you didn’t but would certainly enjoy the advantages of the built-in GPS unit and the other goodies of the new ROM, make sure you do the following:
download the SSPL-TRIN.zip utility linked in from the first post of this thread (note that you’ll need to register yourself in the XDA-Dev forums to be able to access the file)
download the new ROM upgrade from here (Pacific users may also want to give a try to this Chinese source to see if it’s faster)
decompress both files. From the first, transfer SSPL-TRIN.exe to your PDA and execute it there, after disconnecting your Trinity from your desktop. You’ll see the standard rainbow-color bootup screen.
now, start the large RUU_Trinity_DOPODASIA_WWE_1.23.707.6_6275_1.35.00.11_108_Ship.exe file on the desktop, press the OK / Update / Yes buttons until it gets to flashing the new ROM.
It worked for everyone so far. Note that if there is “Serial” at the bottom third of the rainbow bootloader screen of the Trinity, the desktop PC won’t likely to recognize it. Then, just reset the PDA and, after booting in, just restart SSPL-TRIN.exe. You’ll need to see “USB” for the PDA to be recognized.
Warranty issues
Note that, by upgrading, you MAY lose your warranty, depending on where you've initially purchased your Trinity from. However, as you can flash back a ROM of your operator any time (assuming they DO come out with any publicly available ROM version), this isn’t really an issue most of the time.
Also note that, as SSPL-TRIN doesn’t remove the CID lock (unlike with the older and expensive IMEI-Check service), you won’t have problems with the service folks because of the lack of the CID lock. This is also a huge advantage over the IMEI-Check method.
Advantages
I’ve already listed the major advantages of the new version; most importantly, the enabled GPS functionality. Having GPS support in your phone is just unbeatable. Note that you must use the port COM9:. Also note that you may not want to run for example iGo to find the GPS port automatically because it’ll spend a LOT of time in doing so – just give it COM9: right at the beginning, and you’re all set.
As has already been pointed out, the boot-in time has been significantly reduced between the initial HTC ROM version (1.15.405.5 dated 10/23/2006) and the this one (1.23.707.6, 02/08/2007); according to my tests, it’s 39 seconds now, as opposed to the original 45 seconds. Getting better and better (albeit still can't beat the 36 seconds of the AKU3 HTC Wizard!)
I’ve also made some serious benchmarks with the new version to see whether the problematic areas (digitizer handling, A2DP CPU usage) have been fixed. Unfortunately, they aren’t – read on to see what the problem is!
Acute problems with the HTC Trinity
The excellent XDA-Developers community, lately, has been complaining about two special issues regarding the HTC Trinity, the, in my opinion, best HTC 2.8” Pocket PC right now. Having just received a Trinity myself, I’ve thoroughly scrutinized these problems.
Touchscreen CPU usage issues
(Also see this thread)
Unfortunately, it seems all 2.8” WM5 HTC QVGA Pocket PC phones are particularly sensitive to long-pressing the touchscreen. While none of the other Pocket PC models I’ve tested (HP iPAQ 2210, HP iPAQ hx4700 running WM5, Dell Axim x51v , Fujitsu-Siemens Pocket Loox 720 and the HTC Universal) exhibited any increased CPU usage while constantly keeping the stylus down on the touchscreen, both the 2.8” WM5 HTC Wizard and the HTC Trinity did. The, otherwise, almost-zero CPU usage of gwes.exe raised, on the (non-overclocked) former, to around 17% and about 36% on the latter. This is why, for example, action games like K-Rally or Skyforce (Unlimited) will become next to unplayable when, as is recommended, played with the stylus.
This issue is the same in even the latest (Dopod) Trinity ROM version and should be addressed by HTC as soon as possible. It’s hopefully a driver issue and, therefore, can be fixed in software.
(Note that, again, different HTC phone models exhibit different level of excess CPU usage because of the problem. The new, quick Trinity suffers a lot from the bug, the older, “slow” Wizard suffers a lot less, particularly when it’s overclocked (when overclocked to 240 MHz, games like K-Rally become really enjoyable with the stylus). This, however, doesn’t mean ALL “old” (TI CPU-based) HTC phones fare much better than ALL “new” (Samsung CPU-based) HTC phones – other new, Samsung-based models may behave fat better in this respect.
I really hope HTC really soon addresses this issue as it’s almost completely renders some? several? of their models almost useless for stylus-based action gaming and unnecessarily increases the power consumption.)
A2DP CPU usage issues
Unfortunately, there is another major Achilles’ heel with all Trinity ROM’s released so far: the A2DP CPU usage.
While the built-in A2DP doesn’t consume much CPU cycles in the other HTC phones I’ve tested (for example, on the HTC Wizard, even at the original 195 MHz, it hardly exceeds 30%), the Trinity is an exception. When playing music via A2DP, the CPU usage when used in the default (mono) mode is 52.5%, in stereo mode, 49.5%. (With the original ROM version, the figures were 54% and 51%, respectively – as can be seen, the new version has slightly improved upon the situation, but it’s still much worse than with most other devices.) This is another issue HTC should look into as soon as possible, because it makes the device almost useless as an A2DP player.
(A quick note: the A2DP defaults to mono in this device. If you’re familiar with the Registry and have already read my older A2DP-related articles, you will know HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ SOFTWARE\ Microsoft\Bluetooth\ A2DP\Settings\ UseJointStereo also introduced in my article The A2DP support & sound quality & power consumption of the Microsoft and Widcomm BT stack compared; a lot of new A2DP info. With the Trinity, it’s set to 1 by default; you’ll want to change its value to 0.
If you feel unsafe about editing the Registry, you can also use the excellent, free HTweakC tool. I highly recommend it for all Trinity, Wizard and TyTN users.)
Widcomm BT stack compliance?
Unfortunately, as was the case with the original HTC Trinity ROM, neither the Dell Axim WM5 x50/x51 / HTC Wizard nor the HTC Universal Widcomm Bluetooth stacks work with the new ROM. This is very bad news: first, the Microsoft Bluetooth stack as of AKU3 has still bad sound quality with a lot of Bluetooth stereo headphones; second, the Widcomm BT stack would consume considerably less power on the Trinity (I’d say the third of that of the current MS BT stack.)
Verdict
I’m really sorry about HTC’s leaving so bad bugs in the firm- and/or software of this model – the Pocket PC I, otherwise, recommend the most of today’s Pocket PC’s. While upgrading to the new ROM version is HIGHLY recommended for most people, you still won’t be able to play fast-paced action games and should think twice before using the built-in A2DP sound transfer.
Recommended links
My older A2DP-related articles. I also recommend the two reports I’ve posted today about the news: here and here.
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I upgreaded as instructed and put the new rom. My problem is I see no GPS icon in the Systems folder or anywhere for that matter to set it to Com 9. Furthermore, when I installed Tomtom it said i have no gps on my Trinity Can you help advise where my GPS icon is
Another thing that is bugging the hell out of me is the network configuration. how can I get it rid of it completely so that everytime i soft reset, i don't get that annoying message?
Second, please advise, if I remove My Connect, does it make a difference to the device? I live in Canada and do not own a dopod but a HTC unbranded Trinity instead.
Third, What is the CAM program. What does it do?
Many thanks for any help you can offer and best regards,
Gilbert
Gilbert said:
I upgreaded as instructed and put the new rom. My problem is I see no GPS icon in the Systems folder or anywhere for that matter to set it to Com 9. Furthermore, when I installed Tomtom it said i have no gps on my Trinity Can you help advise where my GPS icon is
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Hold - one thing at a time
1) Once you have upgraded the ROM you have to configure TomTom to use the internal GPS, so start TomTom, go to "Change Preferences", go to "Show GPS Status" , then "Configure" to choose your new GPS. Select "Other NMEA GPS Receiver", baud rate = 115200, "GPS on COM9".
2) You will not see any "GPS setting" anywhere unless you hack the Windows Registry. You need a registry editor to do that. Go in HKLM->ControlPanel->GPS Settings: get rid of any DWORD there and make sure to add a new DWORD with the following values: "Group"/0x02. Once done SoftReset and you will have your GPS icon into Settings->Connections.
3) BTW, if you do that registry hack you will be able to map the GPS to other COM ports as well.
Hope this will help!
Anubis
anonimo said:
Are you sure about SDHC being now supported? From other reports it seems that the problem with disappearing files and folders on 4GB SDHC cards is still there.
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Yes; unfortunately my 4GB Transcend SDHC card still behaves in this way with the new rom.
Anubis1965 said:
Hold - one thing at a time
1) Once you have upgraded the ROM you have to configure TomTom to use the internal GPS, so start TomTom, go to "Change Preferences", go to "Show GPS Status" , then "Configure" to choose your new GPS. Select "Other NMEA GPS Receiver", baud rate = 115200, "GPS on COM9".
2) You will not see any "GPS setting" anywhere unless you hack the Windows Registry. You need a registry editor to do that. Go in HKLM->ControlPanel->GPS Settings: get rid of any DWORD there and make sure to add a new DWORD with the following values: "Group"/0x02. Once done SoftReset and you will have your GPS icon into Settings->Connections.
3) BTW, if you do that registry hack you will be able to map the GPS to other COM ports as well.
Hope this will help!
Anubis
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I got:
GPS program port: COM9
GPS hardware port: COM6 (randomly chosen) with Baud rate 115200 (what does Baud rate mean?)
Access: automatically
In TomTom I use COM9, but when I switch the program with the hardware port, TomTom tells me that the GPS still has port COM9.. weird.
Anyways, is this correct? Thanks in advance!
BTW: this goes a looot quicker if you choose the other NMEA GPS Receiver than if you use "other external bluetooth" thanks!
BTW2: you can use "http://www2r.biglobe.ne.jp/~tascal/download/pocketpc/tre_e.htm to edit the register.
Thanks Menneisyys for the summary.
Regarding the cpu consumption I am not so sure everything is HTC related.
can you give me a device which is performing very well with this samsung cpu?
it is fast: 400 Mhz. ok, on paper. but in real life it needs a lot of cycles to do things...
40% if you press the screen.
85% for 320*240 simple divX with tcpmp (more than the OMAP 200 from Wizard)
55% to encode A2DP stream.
and it gets on and on, and does not improve with new ROMs.
I start to wonder why nobody is blaming samsung there. Is there proof somewhere of its effectiveness?
I have HTC-P3600 purchased in US. So far I have no problem using Cingular service and I like the phone.
But why I am posting. I want to update to the latest ROM with the GPS activated.
When I run SSPL-TRIN I get only "SERIAL" in third line.
I have tried three times and same result. I there a something else I need to change to get "USB" activated.
Thanks in advance Peter Simek
psimek said:
I have HTC-P3600 purchased in US. So far I have no problem using Cingular service and I like the phone.
But why I am posting. I want to update to the latest ROM with the GPS activated.
When I run SSPL-TRIN I get only "SERIAL" in third line.
I have tried three times and same result. I there a something else I need to change to get "USB" activated.
Thanks in advance Peter Simek
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You have to have it connected to USB when you run SSPL-TRIN.exe.
mdacfan said:
@chenchon
my way:
1. extract RUU_Trinity_DOPODASIA_WWE_1.23.707.6_6275_1.35.00. 11_108_Ship.exe with WinRAR to XP PC (NewFolder)
2. connect phone to windows XP PC (activesync status green)
3. copy the SSPL-trin to the device ie. \temp (memory) - not storage card
4. run the SSPL-trin (Trinity Display must then show "USB" at the bottom) - wait until XP detects a new USB device
5. run from the extracted file on XP PC (NewFolder) the file "ROMUpdateUtility.exe"
6. Pass all Upgrade questions and wait about 10 Minutes to finish the upgrade from 0% to 100%
7. Softreset Trinity after the successfull upgrade
No SuperCID required if you use SSPL !!
good luck,
Gerhard
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Worked well for me.
Tomtom 6.03 freeze
hi,
does anyone with tomtom 6.03 as any problem of freezing while u r navigating?
i think the problem was when i selected the gps in tomtom config... i selected "use own gps" (the built in gps) but now i choosed another cable gps nmea on com9 and with 115200. Tomorrow i'll feedback
another experiences with tomtom 6.03 are welcome.
best regards,
aprt
Lost Voice Dialing
Hi All,
I have done the ROM upgrade, but seem to have lost voice dialing. Is this something available only on the original HTC ROM? Can I download this seperately?
Thanks
Small Problem
I have updated both the test and final rom,I have noticed a strange problem. As I am using a third party keyboard because of the arabic language i can not switch the keyboard to any installed one rather than the preinstalled SIPs.
I tried two different arabic software plus Resco keyboard all the same. som times it works and many other times it does not.
Any Idea?
I started noticing problems too.
When I soft reset, Pocket Informant always start automatically and hangs the phone.
Before that, the Network guide started and hung, every reboot, so that I had to hard reset.
It works for about one hour, regardless of which programs I install.
GPS works though..
NOT Blaming Samsung
meroupow said:
Thanks Menneisyys for the summary.
Regarding the cpu consumption I am not so sure everything is HTC related.
can you give me a device which is performing very well with this samsung cpu?
it is fast: 400 Mhz. ok, on paper. but in real life it needs a lot of cycles to do things...
40% if you press the screen.
85% for 320*240 simple divX with tcpmp (more than the OMAP 200 from Wizard)
55% to encode A2DP stream.
and it gets on and on, and does not improve with new ROMs.
I start to wonder why nobody is blaming samsung there. Is there proof somewhere of its effectiveness?
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In the case of TCPMP it is not anything todo with solely the Samsung chip itself but more todo with the Imageon Chip being not properly utilised in the ROMS and also TCPMP not being able to make use of the Imageon with the Samsung/ATI combo.
I did a small test once where I had one video that didn't cause screen flicker with the Imageon being used in TCPMP and I got a MASSIVE improvement - posted the benchmark results in another post I will look for them.
The A2DP Stream in my opinion is more todo with the Bluetooth Stack i.e if it were WIDCOMM then we woudn't have these problems.
As for the screen press I am hoping it is down to the Samsung Chip and ROM combination as a pose to just the chip being flawed.
And yes they should put more effort in tweaking these flaws and provide fixes for software and ROMS faster - but these are money making corporations that like to take shortcuts.
The joys of early adoption!
Hello,
Everyone seems to talk about 115200 baud but in Tomtom the highest you get is 57k+ for baud speed. I read once that it should remain on 9600 baud to work well. Where do you all see the 115200 baud? is it through the hack of the registry to enable the GPS icon? Hope someone can help me here.
Best regards,
Gilbert
[email protected]
i see that a S710 (Vox) have an hardware keyboard backlight. my Wings has not. is that true or only a mailfunction of my wings?
the numeric pad has an backlight on the wings..
BG Joy
The wings also has a keyboard backlight, however if you have the 'Light sensor' enabled, it will not always be on. After disabling this light sensor my keyboard backlight is now always on when I slide it open.
Juggels said:
The wings also has a keyboard backlight, however if you have the 'Light sensor' enabled, it will not always be on. After disabling this light sensor my keyboard backlight is now always on when I slide it open.
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The option is in Power Management.
compliment! Thank you for your assistance I was completly confused I should make a proposal for the first smartphones in our office. i try at the Moment from HTC the S710 and S730.
and i think S710 is much better, we dont need UMTS / 3G for email push, the S710 is smaller, nicer, cheaper and the keyboard light lights better
and of all: S730 don´t have GPS, so there is no advantage at all.
More ram and a much better processor doesnt count?
As the s730 has the RAM issue - (same free RAM as 710) and the processor is underpowered (some guys also respond faster sw reaction time on s710) - seems that you could not count it :-(.
thats right, s710 feel a little bit faster. Test with 2 hardreseted devices without software, as example switching between landscape mode if you open the external keyboard. and RAM:
the most of our users use from a smartphone only for email push services. (sometimes a dictionary and a password safe)
what do you mean the processor is underpowered?
did u hear about the issue with the ATI graphics card internally built in but not supported with optimal drivers?
A.Bagatov said:
what do you mean the processor is underpowered?
did u hear about the issue with the ATI graphics card internally built in but not supported with optimal drivers?
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Yes, I know - that is why I mentioned it as underpowered. Well on http://htcclassaction.org/ pages using the expression: " This means our really expensive HTC phones (the TyTN II is about $700) are grossly underperforming." - same as s730. So, in the end the processor currently (with the last ROM version) has slower reaction time then s710 with 201 MHz core. Confirmed also by joy.d above.
Seems to me HTC scamp the job on s730 and it is a big pity. Wings was adept (with expected GPS) on very attractive smartphone. But the result - if you see here all these threads with so many particular problems (compare it with s710) - HTC made very bad work. Regrettably. Also check the company support responses on mentioned page - do you like it? Grrrr.
so do you think HTC will ever release some update which actually unleashes the full potential (RAM issue or 400MHZ core) of our HTC wings?
does the HTC wings also have the ATI graphics accelerator?
thanks for the expertise
A.Bagatov said:
so do you think HTC will ever release some update which actually unleashes the full potential (RAM issue or 400MHZ core) of our HTC wings?
does the HTC wings also have the ATI graphics accelerator?
thanks for the expertise
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Here is one big opportunity for HTC. If I understand well, s730 was not released for USA market yet. (http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1045). And it is very big market. We can hope, that HTC use the owner responses as back loop and now they are cooking new ROM to be more successful.
Concerning the driver missing: Again from mentioned page: "At the time of this writing, all HTC devices based on the MSM7200 and MSM7500 chipsets from Qualcomm seem to be affected." - so s730 too.
hi
im a new WM user just got my L625 yesterday did not see any thread on the same so i have created this for us to share info below is some info i got from the net
Specs
Main camera sensor: 5 MP
Display size: 4.7''
Processor name: Qualcomm Snapdragon™ S4
Maximum Video playback time: 6.8h
Maximum music playback time: 90h
Touch screen technology: Super sensitive touch
Dimensions
Height: 133.2 mm
Width: 72.2 mm
Thickness2: 9.2 mm
Weight: 159 g
Volume: 87.6 cm³
Display and User Interface
Display size: 4.7 ''
Display resolution: WVGA (800 x 480)
Display features: Brightness control, Curved display, High brightness mode, Color boosting, Refresh rate 60 Hz, Corning® Gorilla® Glass 2, Lumia Color profile, Wide viewing angle, Sunlight readability enhancements
Display colors: TrueColor (24-bit/16M)
Aspect ratio: 15:9
Pixel density: 201 ppi
Display technology: IPS LCD
Touch screen technology: Super sensitive touch
Sensors: Ambient light sensor, Accelerometer, Proximity sensor
Keys and Input Methods
User Input: Touch
Operating keys:
Volume keys, Camera key, Power/Lock key
Form factor
Form factor: Monoblock touch
Connectivity
SIM card type: Micro SIM
Charging connectors: Micro-USB
AV connectors: 3.5 mm audio connector
System connectors: Micro-USB-B
USB: USB 2.0
Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.0 + LE
Bluetooth profiles: Object Push profile (OPP) 1.1, Hands-free profile (HFP) 1.5, Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP) 1.2, Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP) 1.4, Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP) 1.1
Wi-Fi: WLAN IEEE 802.11 b/g/n
Wi-Fi security modes: WPA2 (AES/TKIP), WPA, WPA-Personal, WEP, WPA2-Personal, WPA-Enterprise, WPA2-Enterprise, PEAP-MSCHAPv2, EAP-SIM, EAP-AKA
Data Network
LTE network bands3: 3, 7, 20
LTE max data speed DL: 100 Mbps
LTE max data speed UL: 50 Mbps
WCDMA network: 900 MHz, 2100 MHz, 850 MHz
WCDMA max data speed DL: HSDPA - 42.2 Mbps
WCDMA max data speed UL: HSUPA - 5.76 Mbps
GSM network: 850 MHz, 900 MHz, 1800 MHz, 1900 MHz
GSM max data speed DL: EGPRS 236.8 kbps
GSM max data speed UL: EGPRS 236.8 kbps
Power Management4
Battery model: BP-4GWA
Battery capacity: 2000 mAh
Battery voltage: 3.7 V
Removable battery: No
Maximum standby time: 23 days
Maximum talk time (2G): 23.9 h
Maximum talk time (3G): 15.2 h
Maximum cellular network browsing time: 7.2 h
Maximum music playback time: 90 h
Maximum Video playback time: 6.8 h
Maximum Wi-Fi network browsing time: 8.7 h
Processor
Processor name: Qualcomm Snapdragon™ S4
Processor type: Dual-core 1.2GHz
Memory
User data storage: In device, Memory card, SkyDrive cloud storage
RAM: 512 MB
Mass memory: 8 GB
Expandable memory card type: MicroSD
Maximum memory card size: 64 GB
Free cloud storage: 7 GB
for more info go to this link : http://www.nokia.com/global/products/phone/lumia625/specifications/
Note : all above info has been taken from the above link:good::laugh:
reserved for future
hi
one more for future info updates:fingers-crossed:
There aren't alot of Lumia devices their own thread nor, let alone their own listing in the device section. I was hoping that the Lumia 928 was going to get added, but sadly it might not happen.
Anyone tried gdr3 for 625???
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DBZo07 said:
Anyone tried gdr3 for 625???
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hi
yes i did get the update did not see anything special on it but i did feel that the battery life has improved much better than it was this is just my feeling:good::laugh:
where is everybody...?? update here please if there is any trick or improvement..
hi
sorry guys nothing much happening here for the 625 if u want more info go to
wpcentral their is a 625 forum go to below link
link for 625 : http://forums.wpcentral.com/nokia-lumia-625/
Is where maybe already a custom rom for Nokia 625?
Um... haha no. I mean, it'd be cool, but there are hardly *any* WP8 custom ROMs. Lumias (and most other WP8 devices) are locked down much too tightly.
Unlock code for lumia 625
DOES Anyone know if there is the unlock tool out for the Lumia 625 please? i am desperate for it.
thanks
i7demon said:
DOES Anyone know if there is the unlock tool out for the Lumia 625 please? i am desperate for it.
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EVERY LUMIA USER IS DYING TO HAVE ANY KIND OF UNLOCK.
and yes, all caps necessitates me yelling at my phone seeing this comment for the trillionth time.
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I *think* the OP is actually asking for a SIM unlock (but doesn't know enough to know that there are many kinds of unlock, apparently...).
Good news
Hey guys, I gotta good news!
I bought a lumia 625 in the last year in December, but until now , I got stuck with WP8 unforunately. I was really interested in Windows Phone platform, but hard restrictions makes me feel like I have a nearly strong, but an absolute useless mobile. I like to gain the best of all the features whitch comes whit my device, but in this way, Nokia is still two steps behind from the other manufacturers of the market. I follow day by day the infos of the Android project Nokia X, so I've decided to check my bootloader somehow, to test the possibilities if in the future can be able to port a CFW into the phone.
-Turned the phone off,
-Pressed the Volume Up button and kept holding it
-Connected a USB cable to the PC
- And voila, A NEW UNLOCKED QUALCOMM DEVICE WAS RECOGNISED BY OS (instead of Nokia DLOAD)
Try it now
hi...
i like lumia.
just nokia
MaRsHaL.Afg said:
i like lumia.
just nokia
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me too
blackpower91 said:
Hey guys, I gotta good news!
I bought a lumia 625 in the last year in December, but until now , I got stuck with WP8 unforunately. I was really interested in Windows Phone platform, but hard restrictions makes me feel like I have a nearly strong, but an absolute useless mobile. I like to gain the best of all the features whitch comes whit my device, but in this way, Nokia is still two steps behind from the other manufacturers of the market. I follow day by day the infos of the Android project Nokia X, so I've decided to check my bootloader somehow, to test the possibilities if in the future can be able to port a CFW into the phone.
-Turned the phone off,
-Pressed the Volume Up button and kept holding it
-Connected a USB cable to the PC
- And voila, A NEW UNLOCKED QUALCOMM DEVICE WAS RECOGNISED BY OS (instead of Nokia DLOAD)
Try it now
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Ähm.... what exactly are you trying?
And what do you want?
Do you want an unlocked bootloader?
Or do you want SIM-Unlock?
If you connect your device and it shows "qualcomm device", does windows ask you to format your drive? (if it does, do NOT format, press cancel!! as in old Lumia 800 days)
lordmaxey said:
Ähm.... what exactly are you trying?
And what do you want?
Do you want an unlocked bootloader?
Or do you want SIM-Unlock?
If you connect your device and it shows "qualcomm device", does windows ask you to format your drive? (if it does, do NOT format, press cancel!! as in old Lumia 800 days)
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I'm just having a trial of if I have an unlocked bootloader or not. I do not want to unlock the sim-lock, but if it possible, I would change the firmware to another (get started trying to port android somehow). I know, that there's a large scale of Android running smartphones nowadays, but lumia devices have uniq beautiful design, and well quality of hardwer. So if there's a potencial chance of success, why not?
SORRY guys i was a little basic on the 1st post, what i want to do is use another network on the phone, its locked to one company and i want to use another companies sim, is this possible without having to pay for it pls?
Sorry about that
lordmaxey said:
Ähm.... what exactly are you trying?
And what do you want?
Do you want an unlocked bootloader?
Or do you want SIM-Unlock?
If you connect your device and it shows "qualcomm device", does windows ask you to format your drive? (if it does, do NOT format, press cancel!! as in old Lumia 800 days)
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I highly doubt that happens. If you hold the volume up button during boot, you'll put the phone into some sort of mode (forgot the exact name), but the OS won't recognize it as a mass storage device. If anything, you'd get a QUALCOMM MSM DEVICE or something like that, which isn't of much use either. And if you connect the phone during normal boot procedure, you'll probably get a NOKIA BOOTMGR for a couple of seconds before the OS finishes booting and the MTP kicks in.
This isn't WP7. Production WP8 Nokias are all protected by SecureBoot and a whole bunch of other stuff, so you can give up your hopes of a factory unlocked bootloader.