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Hey, I was looking at the other threads about this and I searched on google, but no one was really responding to the posts, but has anyone found a fix for the comm manager randomly opening when you slide the keyboard, or look at a text message?
I am using:
Rom 5.2.19199 (im going to upgrade tonight, but i have read that this bug still appears in the newer one.)
Radio 1.64.06.04
Thanks
Did you make sure Comm Manager was closed properly and not just minimized after its last use? It sometimes "pops up" for me after closing other programs, but then I just remember to actually close it.
yeah im pretty sure, i mean, its not listed in the task manager or anything. It usually opens up under the messaging program when i hit the notification button on the today screen, and then type a message with the keyboard and then close out of messaging. (if that makes sense)
I'm seeing this too when closing the Opera pre-alpha and sometimes when closing Messaging. Using Dutty's WM6.1 RTM.
i'm seeing the same thing too on an i760. task manager doesnt see it as being minimized.
In the Dutty 6.1 ROM Thread The Bug has been discussed. Here's how you can make it happen.
1. Open just about any program.
2. Slide Out Your Keyboard.
3. Close Your Keyboard
4. Close your Program of choice.
5. Marvel in the wonders of Random Comm Manager
6. ???
7. PROFIT!!!
You didn't say what ROM you were using. I'm curious as to if its a WM 6.1 Thing.
JimmyMcGee said:
5. Marvel in the wonders of Random Comm Manager
6. ???
7. PROFIT!!!
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I too believe this is the work of underwear gnomes...
This has something to do with FTouchFlo, I believe. I have the same ROM running and I used to have that happen to me all the time. After I installed SPB Mobile Shell 2 and stopped using TouchFlo and the cube as a test, I've never had it happen again.
Though underwear gnomes are just as reasonable an explanation.
jonnyp4l said:
This has something to do with FTouchFlo, I believe. I have the same ROM running and I used to have that happen to me all the time. After I installed SPB Mobile Shell 2 and stopped using TouchFlo and the cube as a test, I've never had it happen again.
Though underwear gnomes are just as reasonable an explanation.
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Speak of the devil. As soon as I posted this, I sent an email and the dang Comm Manager popped up. My initial hypothesis appears to have been erroneous. Apologies.
Yep, I have it too but just never posted about it. Rom info in my sig.
JimmyMcGee said:
In the Dutty 6.1 ROM Thread The Bug has been discussed. Here's how you can make it happen.
1. Open just about any program.
2. Slide Out Your Keyboard.
3. Close Your Keyboard
4. Close your Program of choice.
5. Marvel in the wonders of Random Comm Manager
6. ???
7. PROFIT!!!
You didn't say what ROM you were using. I'm curious as to if its a WM 6.1 Thing.
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Hi,
Just to report that I've tryed many times, with differet aplications, with and without Ftouch and just never have this proble... (running Dutty's 6.1 19199)
cheers
This issue is already being talked about.... but we still don't have an answer or fix.
Here's a link to my thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1958220
I've also already PM'd dutty about it, and a few other people to see if anyones working on a fix for it but I havent heard anything back. It is terribly annoying.
I've tried re-installing the comm manager, installing different comm managers... and i've tried performing a few registry hacks, but it still does it.
The comm manager usually ONLY opens randomly, once you have launched the comm manager at one point or another. So if you never open the comm manager after you have soft reset, you shouldnt see it. However, if you open it... then close it, it will randomly appear.
It looks as if the comm manager is running in the background somehow, and CLICKING THE "X" doesnt fully close it, it just hides it. The comm manager also does not appear in the task manager windows or running program list in the memory. Weird huh?
This is happening to both my girlfriend and myself on both of our tilts...
Here is what we are working with:
Rom: Duttys WM6.1 5.2.19716 UC
Radio: Polar 1.58.25.14
To re-create the problem, just do this:
1st: open any program... (phone app, PIE, whatever...)
2nd: slide out keyboard
3rd: slide back in keyboard
4th: close opened program
And the comm manager will open back up.....
I use QuickMenu as my task manager and Comm Manager shows up in there like any other app. Closing it from the task menu stops it from popping up.
nimda0 said:
This issue is already being talked about.... but we still don't have an answer or fix.
Here's a link to my thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1958220
I've also already PM'd dutty about it, and a few other people to see if anyones working on a fix for it but I havent heard anything back. It is terribly annoying.
I've tried re-installing the comm manager, installing different comm managers... and i've tried performing a few registry hacks, but it still does it.
The comm manager usually ONLY opens randomly, once you have launched the comm manager at one point or another. So if you never open the comm manager after you have soft reset, you shouldnt see it. However, if you open it... then close it, it will randomly appear.
It looks as if the comm manager is running in the background somehow, and CLICKING THE "X" doesnt fully close it, it just hides it. The comm manager also does not appear in the task manager windows or running program list in the memory. Weird huh?
This is happening to both my girlfriend and myself on both of our tilts...
Here is what we are working with:
Rom: Duttys WM6.1 5.2.19716 UC
Radio: Polar 1.58.25.14
To re-create the problem, just do this:
1st: open any program... (phone app, PIE, whatever...)
2nd: slide out keyboard
3rd: slide back in keyboard
4th: close opened program
And the comm manager will open back up.....
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This isn't just isolated to Dutty's ROM apparently a couple people on the CUSTEL ROM are also having this. I wonder if they both started from the same base WM 6.1
Its not a WM6.1 thing as im using an original tmobile WM6 rom.
Rom 1.56.110.4
Radio 1.27.12.11
I also get this problem.
Well there goes my theory.
Can someone who actually has this problem say whether closing the Comm Manager through QuickMenu fixes things or not? I'm still pretty confident that it's just Comm Manager not closing properly and not showing up in other task managers.
Quentin's ROM; Q-Mobile 1.1 had this issue too.
In his newest ROM Q-Mobile 1.2 (WM6 ROM) he solved this issue.
If you are looking for a solution or fix, try to contact Quentin. Maybe he can help you.
BTW, his Q-Mobile 1.2 ROM is awesome. I'm running it for months already. It's fast and very stable.
se0siris said:
Can someone who actually has this problem say whether closing the Comm Manager through QuickMenu fixes things or not? I'm still pretty confident that it's just Comm Manager not closing properly and not showing up in other task managers.
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Just tested that.. Yup if you Open Comm Manager and "close it" HTC End task Doesn't see it but Quick Menu does. If it is visable in Quick Menu It will pop up. Killing it Via Quick Menu and doing the same steps that brought it up before, it does not show up.
So Comm Manager isn't closing all the way. Which in itself it not a bad thing if it wouldn't pop up on Sliding out the Keyboard. Maybe... If its hiding in the back ground and you slid out your keyboard, since it switches to landscape mode Comm Manager is responding to that command switching to Landscape and forgot that it was "hidden." So If it could stay "hidden" during the switch from Portrait to Landscape and Back this problem would not exist.
commanager
i have a tilt with wm6 (2nd release) not wm61. i also have this annoying problem.
i noticed this after i installed poorly duck vista commanager. i don't remember if it was after the rom upgrade, though. please find a fix.
Hi all,
I have tried this many times on WiFi- when I close Opera Browser by tapping and holding "x" icon my Diamond gets very slow, and I can't open Opera again, can't send/receive mails etc (very long time when applications react). Device runs after it like very little memory, but task manager shows f.e. 51% It happens even after softreset and running Opera. But... When I minimize Opera and then close it via Task Manager menu on Today Screen everything is ok and device is running normally. My ROM is 1.37.X.X. Can you check this and reply?
Thanks,
TomekJ
Hi TomekJ,
same here with MDA Compact IV (german T-Mobile) in Stock condition and with same ROM. I had no clues about the reason until your message. Now its clear. Seems like a bug (in Opera?).
jhkaufi
Problem partly solved
Hi,
I made some tests - in my case, when TF3D is on everything is ok, but when I disable it on today screen bug appear...
I've tried searching with no effect.
I've got IgoV8 installed on my phone, running the latest Hyperdragon rom.
If I have manilla disabled then Igo will run no problem, Enable manilla and it won't load. No errors, nothing.
Tomtom works fine. Anyone got any ideas?
soopahfly said:
I've tried searching with no effect.
I've got IgoV8 installed on my phone, running the latest Hyperdragon rom.
If I have manilla disabled then Igo will run no problem, Enable manilla and it won't load. No errors, nothing.
Tomtom works fine. Anyone got any ideas?
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You probably not using the latest version of the IGO8, I'm using 8.0.0.44366 and it runs smoothly on all the latest releases of HDIII as well as on some others (see in my sig below) I now that previous vers of the IGO8 had compatibility problems.
Cheers, just checked my device and i'm running 8.0.0.31442.
Will try an update.
I have a lot of problems running iGO when I have been running without a reset for a few days or I have multiple programs running..
iGO seems to demand a lot of ram to startup.. Not sure if it's some free/largest chunk type of check or if it truly attempts to load and it bombs out. I see the spiny busy cursor for a second or two then nothing else.. No messages from iGO.
I've pretty much given up on using it anymore.. Even when I do get it running by exiting most everything or doing a reset it seems like it only runs at most 20-25 minutes before it crashes.
BTW, I don't run Manilla or such, but I do run SPB Pocket Plus with Phone Alarm, SPB Weather, KaiserNotify, and Flexmail as my typical load.. And when I'm on the road, I typically also run TrackMe. This gives me about 30-35m of ram free typically, and when iGO is running it 'only' takes about 8m but it could need a lot more to startup, not sure.
khaytsus said:
I have a lot of problems running iGO when I have been running without a reset for a few days or I have multiple programs running..
iGO seems to demand a lot of ram to startup.. Not sure if it's some free/largest chunk type of check or if it truly attempts to load and it bombs out. I see the spiny busy cursor for a second or two then nothing else.. No messages from iGO.
I've pretty much given up on using it anymore.. Even when I do get it running by exiting most everything or doing a reset it seems like it only runs at most 20-25 minutes before it crashes.
BTW, I don't run Manilla or such, but I do run SPB Pocket Plus with Phone Alarm, SPB Weather, KaiserNotify, and Flexmail as my typical load.. And when I'm on the road, I typically also run TrackMe. This gives me about 30-35m of ram free typically, and when iGO is running it 'only' takes about 8m but it could need a lot more to startup, not sure.
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Do you run HTC home? I had such problems when i have used Dutty's roms (not manilla), the conflict between Igo8 and htc home is a well known issue and you can find many posts on that.
I can get Igo8 to run correctly with Manilla2D (8.0.0.41506) so an upgrade should do the trick for you. this version seems to have a lot of problems if you minimize or exit the program. I think you are right with the ram, because occasionally Manilla2D will be closed when igo exits. I'm left with a screen that says "Click here to start touchflow2d" or something similar.
but a lot of times I just want to minimize IGo. and it is impossible to get it back if the running programs taskbar is hidden by manilla2d. running the program again opens a new instance, and causes all sorts of problems.
It wouldn't be so bad if Igo8 appeared in the task manager as a running program, but sadly it does not. I'm using the Opal task manager that is compatible with Manilla2D (XDA-Team TaskManager_2_1_34563_3.cab). Anyone know how to make Igo8 appear correctly as a running app in that task manager or any other solution to this issue?
All sorted, upgraded to 8.3.
Can you please sent link where can it be downloaded
Ok here is the deal. I am no complete noob. I googled. I searched the entire forum. What I found was Memmaid and SK Tools. Both do not seem to work properly on my device. I have M-Diamond 1.4.
My problem is, that program memory is filled quite quickly. After a soft reset I have about 45 megs. Device works good. After a day, it is only 40 megs. After 2 days 35. When I reach 32 megs, the device is not usable anymore. Messaging is ultraslow. My homescreen gets messed up. HS++ disappears and the skin gets changed.
After a soft-reset everything is ok again. But I do not want to do a soft-reset again and again after 3 days.
Here are the current services sorted by usage of memory:
filesys.exe 9.42M
device.exe 6.90M
gwes.exe 3.40M
shell32.exe 2.46M
cprog.exe 1.92M
services.exe 1.23M
tmail.exe 1.14M
s2u2.exe 1.09M
+ 11 other services with lower that 1meg of usage
Currently free memory is exactly 35 Megs.
Please spare me with comments like "use forum search" or stuff like that. I did that already.
To anyone who gives me useful advices and perhaps helps me solve this:
Thanks in advance!!!
Hi there. It is important to know what all the other 11 processes are in order to see what is eating up your ram. I use FreeupRam which comes with SK Tools quite effectively. I also use TaskMgr to check what apps and processes are running and close unnecessary ones. You can close tmail for example.
I am not sure what device you are running etc what rom, WM6 or 6.1, you need to give us a bit more info. I am not sure what you mean by M-Diamond 1.4?
What other apps do you have installed? Eg. HTC Home Customiser and PhoneAlalrm were playing havoc on my today screen after resets etc and certain plugins would not display properly or not at all. After uninstalling these and replacing everything with Spb Mobile Shell, I now have a device that works as it should and it suits my requirements 99%.
It seems like it is something else causing the slowdown. I am running Task Facade, S2U2 v1.52, Spb Moble Shell, a couple of Mortscripts, etc and have between 39mb and 45mb free ram and my device is pretty snappy, even when using hardware keyboard and switching to landscape and back.
I suspect it is a plugin or similar app slowing your device down.
Ok here is the full list:
Filesys.exe
Device.exe
Gwes.exe
Shell32.exe
Cprog.exe
Services.exe
S2u2.exe
Remote.exe
Rapiclnt
Quickgps.exe
Tmail.exe
Connmgr.exe
Repllog.exe
Taskmgr.exe
Udp2tcp.exe
Ilock2.exe
Sddaemon.exe
Rnaapp.exe
Nk.exe
The M-Diamond Rom is WM6.1
I have a lot of stuff installed, though I do not use it regularly. Regular use is:
S2U2
S2P
G-Alarm
MyMobiler
File Explorer
Soltair
Opera (not very regularly, but sometimes)
PPCPimBackup
TomTom7
Mobile Navigator 7
MoBlog
Apptodate
As home screen I have a combination of HS++ and UltimateLaunch.
Balrog82 said:
Ok here is the full list:
Filesys.exe
Device.exe
Gwes.exe
Shell32.exe
Cprog.exe
Services.exe
S2u2.exe
Remote.exe
Rapiclnt
Quickgps.exe
Tmail.exe
Connmgr.exe
Repllog.exe
Taskmgr.exe
Udp2tcp.exe
Ilock2.exe
Sddaemon.exe
Rnaapp.exe
Nk.exe
The M-Diamond Rom is WM6.1
I have a lot of stuff installed, though I do not use it regularly. Regular use is:
S2U2
S2P
G-Alarm
MyMobiler
File Explorer
Soltair
Opera (not very regularly, but sometimes)
PPCPimBackup
TomTom7
Mobile Navigator 7
MoBlog
Apptodate
As home screen I have a combination of HS++ and UltimateLaunch.
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Ok, now I can guess which the culprit is... and the winner is........*drum roll*...
ULTIMATE LAUNCH!!!! and HS++ do not good bedfellows make.
I use HS++, b ut only as a one-liner to see battery temp, battery drain etc etc.
Just try running your device without UltimateLaunch and you will see the difference. I tried it out for a very short while and that was my experience.
Hm ok, I will try without UL. Is there a better launcher you can reccomend?
I had UL deactivated for a while. And I had no real measurable loss in memory. Just a little bit. I believe that if you have multiple tabs in UL and they get loaded they take memory (for icons and such). I have no today plugins integrated into UL, so this is not the reason for huge memory loss.
But now comes the clue. I reactivated UL and just some minutes later I suddenly had 50megs of free memory instead of the 44 megs I had before.
Have to monitor this for a while...
I use Spb Mobile Shell which is commercial, but I am very happy in general and I can highly recommend it. I hardly ever use my today screen anymore. It is fast, snappy, reasonably low on resources, there are many themes available and I like my current setup.
After the release of the WM 6.5 Build 21500 I´m thinking to try it out. But I have a question:
*Is the SecondToday working on the WM 6.5?
I want to use both TF3D and the standard WM 6.5 Today screen and on the 6.1 it´s working great. But is this working on the 6.5?
Well, can't seem to get SecondToday to load on my Touch IT WM6.5. Tried mToday too but it can't work either.
E90 Commie said:
After the release of the WM 6.5 Build 21500 I´m thinking to try it out. But I have a question:
*Is the SecondToday working on the WM 6.5?
I want to use both TF3D and the standard WM 6.5 Today screen and on the 6.1 it´s working great. But is this working on the 6.5?
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it is but it makes the system slow.....using both interface makes the system use more resources.....i think a better option is to write a mort script to switch between interfaces
I have solved the problem with TFDetacher, SPB MS3 Toggler and AE Buttons plus. The left softkey toggles Mobile Shell and the right one toggles TF3D.
I can recommend TFDetacher to be cooked into the Valkyrie series (and other ROMs with the 6.5/Titanium and Manilla combo). TFDetacher is the easiest way to use both Manilla and Titanium on the 6.5.
E90 Commie said:
I have solved the problem with TFDetacher, SPB MS3 Toggler and AE Buttons plus. The left softkey toggles Mobile Shell and the right one toggles TF3D.
I can recommend TFDetacher to be cooked into the Valkyrie series (and other ROMs with the 6.5/Titanium and Manilla combo). TFDetacher is the easiest way to use both Manilla and Titanium on the 6.5.
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can you write how you did, i have try but i can't get it too work
This is my steps:
1. Install TFDetacher.
2. When it´s installed - open TFConfig and uncheck TouchFLO autostart.
3. Install SPB MS 3.0.1.
4. Install SPB MS Toggler.
5. Install AE Button Plus.
6. Open AE Button Plus and select LSK and handle by AEPlus, open application. Select Toggle Mobile Shell.
7. Do the same with the RSK but select Toggle TouchFLO instead.
Works perfect on my device running Valkyrie 1.8/WM 6.5 21812.
E90 Commie said:
This is my steps:
1. Install TFDetacher.
2. When it´s installed - open TFConfig and uncheck TouchFLO autostart.
3. Install SPB MS 3.0.1.
4. Install SPB MS Toggler.
5. Install AE Button Plus.
6. Open AE Button Plus and select LSK and handle by AEPlus, open application. Select Toggle Mobile Shell.
7. Do the same with the RSK but select Toggle TouchFLO instead.
Works perfect on my device running Valkyrie 1.8/WM 6.5 21812.
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gr8 work.....but can u comment on the memory usage after
1.toggling through both;
2 after only opening manila
3. after only opening MS..
PS: any luck with titanium
agent_47 said:
gr8 work.....but can u comment on the memory usage after
1.toggling through both;
2 after only opening manila
3. after only opening MS..
PS: any luck with titanium
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Titanium works fine in 1.8/21812.
With both SPB MS3 and TF3D2 running memory usage is 71% according to HTC Task Manager. Beside both I´m running Total Commander and Task Facade.
With only TF3D2, Task Facade and TC running the mem usage is 66%.
With SPB MS 3.0.1, Task Facade and TC running the mem usage is 66%.
Hibernate command in QuickMenu reduced this to 65%.
In my opinion the TFDetacher is needed if TF3D2 is cooked in. SPB MS Toggler is only needed if the user has decided to install Mobile Shell. It installs in the same folder as SPB MS - i.e cook that in isn´t a good idea because of mismatching folders.
Ergo:
*On ROMs with Titanium and TF3D2 onboard: cook TFDetacher in for easy switching.
*Don´t cook the SPB MS Toggler in - to work correctly Mobile Shell 3 needs to be present before installation.
AE Button Plus or changes in registry to bind long press on LSK or RSK to "Toggle TouchFLO" can be a good idea if TFDetacher is cooked in.
The good thing with TFDetacher is the fact it makes it possible to run TouchFLO as an application - i.e you have "two" today screens available. It can be a good idea even on 6.1 based ROMs with TF3D. Second Today isn´t needed - TFDetacher frees up the screen (and SPB MS Toggler does that too).
Edit: with CleanRAM level 1 purging the memory usage with only SPB MS3 running besides Task Facade and TC was reduced to 64%.
sjoe tht sounds good... if tht"d work without loosing speed...
any chance u can throw it in ur pot Agent?
i need to delete the mobileshell lnk in startup or???
E90 Commie said:
Titanium works fine in 1.8/21812.
With both SPB MS3 and TF3D2 running memory usage is 71% according to HTC Task Manager. Beside both I´m running Total Commander and Task Facade.
With only TF3D2, Task Facade and TC running the mem usage is 66%.
With SPB MS 3.0.1, Task Facade and TC running the mem usage is 66%.
Hibernate command in QuickMenu reduced this to 65%.
In my opinion the TFDetacher is needed if TF3D2 is cooked in. SPB MS Toggler is only needed if the user has decided to install Mobile Shell. It installs in the same folder as SPB MS - i.e cook that in isn´t a good idea because of mismatching folders.
Ergo:
*On ROMs with Titanium and TF3D2 onboard: cook TFDetacher in for easy switching.
*Don´t cook the SPB MS Toggler in - to work correctly Mobile Shell 3 needs to be present before installation.
AE Button Plus or changes in registry to bind long press on LSK or RSK to "Toggle TouchFLO" can be a good idea if TFDetacher is cooked in.
The good thing with TFDetacher is the fact it makes it possible to run TouchFLO as an application - i.e you have "two" today screens available. It can be a good idea even on 6.1 based ROMs with TF3D. Second Today isn´t needed - TFDetacher frees up the screen (and SPB MS Toggler does that too).
Edit: with CleanRAM level 1 purging the memory usage with only SPB MS3 running besides Task Facade and TC was reduced to 64%.
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I have 45 % when i toggle titanium, ms3 and tf3d
I was very satisfied with SecondToday on WM 6.1 but now I flashed to WM 6.5 and have a problem.
I use ROMeOS RAPHAEL WM 6.5 [v2.9.02](180709) the standard screen is the new "Windows Default" and on the SecondToday-Screen should be thinks like Spb Diary and other useful apps.
Here my problem: At WM 6.1 I had no problem with setting the left softkey to ST but now with WM 6.5 I can't set the left softkey on the Windows Default screen to ST.
Any suggestions?
There is an app, that making a tab for TF3D and you can see there your classic todoy screen
bremair said:
I was very satisfied with SecondToday on WM 6.1 but now I flashed to WM 6.5 and have a problem.
I use ROMeOS RAPHAEL WM 6.5 [v2.9.02](180709) the standard screen is the new "Windows Default" and on the SecondToday-Screen should be thinks like Spb Diary and other useful apps.
Here my problem: At WM 6.1 I had no problem with setting the left softkey to ST but now with WM 6.5 I can't set the left softkey on the Windows Default screen to ST.
Any suggestions?
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Use AE Button Plus and remap the softkey - select long press to do the preferred action. Works perfect.
That would be a solution but what's the name of the buttons below? The "Home" and the "Arrow"?
infazz said:
There is an app, that making a tab for TF3D and you can see there your classic todoy screen
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What app is that?
E90 Commie said:
After the release of the WM 6.5 Build 21500 I´m thinking to try it out. But I have a question:
*Is the SecondToday working on the WM 6.5?
I want to use both TF3D and the standard WM 6.5 Today screen and on the 6.1 it´s working great. But is this working on the 6.5?
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I recently Flashed to Dutty 6.5 r9
and got a little carried away
and have Touchflo detatcher
secondtoday
and ManilaToday v4.0 <-- the one that uses a manila tab
all working successfully
My take: make the TF3d home button to call 2nd today. Doesn't matter it's 6.1 or 6.5
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila]
"HomeLSKPath"="\\windows\\secondtoday.exe"
"HomeLSKText"="2nd Today"
Tried that way but wm 6.5 overwrite this settings.
Uh? Thought SecondToday doesn't work on WM6.5? Last time I tried I couldn't seem to get it to work.