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MS voice command vs Voice Speed dial

Hello
can somebody help me understanding the difference betwenn Voice command and speed dial and if I can use both on the same PDA ?
So far I understand that
- Speed Dial dials numbers and start programs by using voice tags
- you need to train each name to be recognized
- there is no true voice recognition
- Voice command dials numbers and starts programs by voice recognition
- in addition VC reads calendar entries and SMS/E-Mail
- there is no training mode to increase accurancy
So which program would provide better results for recognize and dial numbers by voice ?
Can I run both in parallel and use VC for the calendar function and Voice speed dial for the dialing ?
Plus I try to install VC 1.6 now .. but the button maps only to the explorer button on my TytnII .. not able to move him to the voice record button with the button application in settings
any suggestion / fix
Thanks freecall

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not able to move him to the voice record button with the button application in settings
any suggestion / fix
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I have the same problem.... any solution?!?!?!?

Cyberon is crap. I posted a detailed procedure for replacing it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337501

I have installed Cyberon voice commander v2.0 and i am very happy with it when i use it with my bluetooth!!!
My only problem is that i do not know how to assign this program to the default "button 6".
I think default settings are:
"Button 6" --> Cyberon voice commander and
"Button 6 (Hold)" --> Record. (This one works).

hmm that sounds like a drastic deinstall .. so anyway to get the Voice speed dial back without doing a full hard reset if I would it like better than VC after some testing ?
Freecall

M$ Voice Command ROCKS!
Ok I don’t say that about many applications especially M$ ones but I love VC. I keep my phone in its case and the BT ear piece in the ear, when the phone rings or I get a Text message VC tells me who is calling or reads the text to me. If I have an appointment but don’t recall what time it is, I just ask VC.
As far as accuracy in voice dial, it can’t be beat, say “Call: Joe Blow on mobile phone” and it will confirm “Call Joe Blow on mobile?” never misses. Say; “Dial 2125551212” and it will confirm and dial the number. No voice tags no training and it works for anyone. If my wife grabs my phone and needs to call someone she hits the VC button and off she goes.
Ok so there is one issue, with the Tilt there is no convenient button to map too, but since I do all my dialing from the BT headset or car unit it doesn’t matter to me. If you don’t mind it maped to your IE soft key ok, you can get to IE 3 or 4 other ways. On my old wizard (long live the wizard) I had it mapped to the record button and it worked great.
Russ741

Russ741 said:
Ok I don’t say that about many applications especially M$ ones but I love VC. I keep my phone in its case and the BT ear piece in the ear, when the phone rings or I get a Text message VC tells me who is calling or reads the text to me. If I have an appointment but don’t recall what time it is, I just ask VC.
As far as accuracy in voice dial, it can’t be beat, say “Call: Joe Blow on mobile phone” and it will confirm “Call Joe Blow on mobile?” never misses. Say; “Dial 2125551212” and it will confirm and dial the number. No voice tags no training and it works for anyone. If my wife grabs my phone and needs to call someone she hits the VC button and off she goes.
Ok so there is one issue, with the Tilt there is no convenient button to map too, but since I do all my dialing from the BT headset or car unit it doesn’t matter to me. If you don’t mind it maped to your IE soft key ok, you can get to IE 3 or 4 other ways. On my old wizard (long live the wizard) I had it mapped to the record button and it worked great.
Russ741
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I have to agree with Russ. Microsoft Voice Commander is by far the best ~$17.00 I have spent for this phone, as well as the 8125 I had before this. The Voice regconition is awesome. I did have to change the buttons as described above. I chose the camera button as I never use the camera anyway. It works great with my HT700(headset) as well as the HT820(bluetooth headphones). The options allow for a good level of customization as well.

that sounds realy good and I will start testing it .Two quick questions to the comments above:
- have you installed VC without deleting / un-installing Voice speed dial on your Kaiser ?
- second it looks my device recognize all VC commands like time, date , help , signal etc but when I say call First Name Last Name it never finds any of my 590 contacts .. even it the name is as simple as Taxi G7 .. beep comes back empty .
When I say just call .. it dials a number I do not even recognize.
Can this be related that I do not have a option menu for contact in the VC settings (it is greyed ) , I can only select the notification button ?
Or is this maybe because I use PI 2007 ?
Thanks Freecall

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that sounds realy good and I will start testing it .Two quick questions to the comments above:
- have you installed VC without deleting / un-installing Voice speed dial on your Kaiser ?
- second it looks my device recognize all VC commands like time, date , help , signal etc but when I say call First Name Last Name it never finds any of my 590 contacts .. even it the name is as simple as Taxi G7 .. beep comes back empty .
When I say just call .. it dials a number I do not even recognize.
Can this be related that I do not have a option menu for contact in the VC settings (it is greyed ) , I can only select the notification button ?
Or is this maybe because I use PI 2007 ?
Thanks Freecall
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freecall,
Right now i have both installed (getting ready to delete Voice Dial) and VC is partially functional. I will accept commands and process them correctly but it will not announce calls, read messages or calendar data. So once i have VD removed I will let you know.
I recommend you also remove voice dial before trying anymore tests.
Russ741

Russ741 said:
freecall,
Right now i have both installed (getting ready to delete Voice Dial) and VC is partially functional. I will accept commands and process them correctly but it will not announce calls, read messages or calendar data. So once i have VD removed I will let you know.
I recommend you also remove voice dial before trying anymore tests.
Russ741
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I did not uninstall Voice Dial. IF you want to hear the calls and emails, make you configure VC properly. There is settings for only:
1.) Only announce during Free-Time. Make sure you check that one to whatever you want.
2.) Only High Priorty Emails get annouced. Again, check whichever option you want.

Where do I get a list of commands that VC will recognize? E.G Dial, Recall, on Mobile, etc.

Say "What can I say?" and you'll have your answer...

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Where do I get a list of commands that VC will recognize? E.G Dial, Recall, on Mobile, etc.
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or go to the Microsoft website and look up VoiceCommand 1.6 for PPC. The list is really quite long!
Russ741

Any ideas Gang?
So, after following the thread for removing voice dialer and remapping the PTT button to become button 6 and button 6 (hold) VC is still not announcing incoming calls (and yes I have configured the options!) anyone have any idea why it would perform 90% of its duty and not the last 10%?
Russ741

Are you sure it's not announcing them, or is it possible it's announcing them through the "wrong" speaker? If you've got it set to use BT, BT, and only BT, then all of the announcements go through the headset, or don't get made if it's not currently connected (like walking out of range and then back in).
I tweaked mine to announce only through the speaker, then turned it off because the robot voice annoyed me, but at first I thought it wasn't working...

One question about VC...
Do you have to say the person's full name to dial them? Let's say I have a contact name John Smith, do I have to say "Call John Smith Mobile", or can I program nicknames somewhere within the software so I can say something like "Call Smitty"?

It's based on the contact name, so "Call Smitty" will confuse it.

Is it possible to send messages just using voice or only receive them?

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One question about VC...
Do you have to say the person's full name to dial them? Let's say I have a contact name John Smith, do I have to say "Call John Smith Mobile", or can I program nicknames somewhere within the software so I can say something like "Call Smitty"?
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It is based on what ever names you have in contacts so, for example if I want to call my office I say; "Call work" since there is only one number in the contacts database VC doesnt ask for Mobile, home or work. And since my office is just listed as First Name: Work Last Name: <blank> it understands.
Russ741

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Is it possible to send messages just using voice or only receive them?
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I simply reads the text or email to you, so there is no way to compose a message with VC.
Russ741

Keypad disappears after dialing a number on Tilt

Has anyone figured out a registry tweak so that the keypad doesn't disappear after you dial a number on the Tilt. There must be a way to fix it - I notice when I push 1 for speed dial to call my voicemail the keypad remains on the screen, but when I dial any other number it disappears. This is one of the few annoyances I haven't been able to fix on my Tilt. Thanks.

Keep keypad when calling . . .
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Has anyone figured out a registry tweak so that the keypad doesn't disappear after you dial a number on the Tilt. There must be a way to fix it - I notice when I push 1 for speed dial to call my voicemail the keypad remains on the screen, but when I dial any other number it disappears. This is one of the few annoyances I haven't been able to fix on my Tilt. Thanks.
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Excellent first question!
I don't know the answer, but I'd like to know, too.
Obviously you can hit the left softkey for "Keypad" but that's an extra step that one might prefer not to have to do, but rather have the keypad remain showing, and have the left softkey option be "Call Status"
If you call a lot of numbers where you have to enter more numbers when prompted, this might be the preferred default.

No one knows? I'd love to change this as well.

This is the first "fix" i need to do.
HTC should sort this out and provide a fee down load. They are silly to think it would not be a problem .
There is a fix etc.. but its part of a big bundle of stuff that scares most "newbies" away.
Can someone not make a simple fix just for this problem with a very easy method to download and set up etc
I am sure that many members do not have the technical minds of most of you!

Looking for a call filter program

Hi! I am looking for a call filter program that can filter all unwanted or no number incoming calls, I tried photo contacts pro but its slow & sometimes the caller can't hear anything for 1 to 2 seconds repeatly during the conversation. I also tried MagiCall, this program is simple & nice but it can't hang up the no number calls, instead it will pass these calls to my voice mail box directly. It has a option "pick up/hang up", this works what I want but will waste the air time. So anyone can suggest a call filter program to me that can directly hang up the no number calls? Thanks!

Call Firewall

thanks for your reply, I've seen the features of this program but it doesn't mention it can block no number call or not? Do you know it has this feature or not? Thanks!

uh, sorry, can't help you there. I only HAD this program in some of the ROMs I used, never actually USED it.
And auto-rejecting no-number calls would have killed it in my book anyway, because the phone central in my office randomly removes id from outgoing ones, and so I would never receive business calls, lol.
Ask around, or better yet, try searching the forum for impressions/reviews. I know Laurentius26 uses this app in some (if not all) of his ROMs.
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That's what I found in the description:
Features & Options:
a. Accecpt all calls - pretty self explainatory
b. Accept call from My Contacts only - accepts calls from contacts only, others are rejected
c. Reject all calls - pretty self explainatory
d. White List - accepts calls only from the white listed nos
e. Black List - accepts all call except from the black listed nos
f. Black List Pattern - any no STARTING from the black list pattern list is rejected.
for eg. if you enter "123", so all nos STARTING from "123" will be rejected
this is a very nice option with which you can block nos from any particular network, country, city , area or whatever you can think of.
Besides, there is a check window for "Reject unknown/private calls"... I'd call it a YES, then

CallBlock
I use callBlock from WISH solutions to block a list of callers. It works well and it does not have to answer and hang up.They mention that it can block no number calls but I have not tried it for that. Here is the link:
http://www.wishsolutions.com/products.html
Good luck!

Just tried the Call Firewall, it can block no number calls, but transfer the call to voice mail box directly. Anyway thanks for your suggestion

actually, this CallBlock looks like it offers a few ways of blocking the call... See picture at this address
Block method: dropdown list... Wonder what's in there? researchermd, can you check and let us know?

call firewall works just fine. I use it to block unknown or private numbers.
In addition, you can use your network settings for call barring and block numbers that aren't in your phonebook if you want the extra security of blocking numbers.

The screen you provided should be "CallBlock Ringtone Edition" which is make for palm. For the PPC version, there has no such option can be found

sending tones during an active call

can somebody please tell me how can I send DTMF tones during a call? I searched in everywhere, but couldn't find any clear answers. do I need to install another application?
thanks for ur answers guys..
(HTC Diamond, wm6.1)

as i understand dtmf is enabled by default. i use it all the time with my phonebank.

yes it is enabled in my phone too, but there is no option to send DTMF tones. I am not talking about hearing those tones while dialling a number. what I mean is I made a phone call and connected, and then I want to send a number from my contacts. this is very practical when using the calling cards.
thanks

Press the keypad soft key(left) to bring the phone keypad.

I know it's not "hearing" the tones, as I said I use them to get access to my bank via the phone and that naturally involves quite a few numbers to be received by the other end. And this is carried out rather silently. Unfortunatly I haven't seen a "send number with DTMF" option. Maybe you indeed have to get an extra app to get that to work. The only place i've ever seen an option to even choose DTMF being enabled whatsoever is in schap's advanced config. I can vaguely recall such an option on an old Nokia pone. Sorry though for not being able to help.

ok, thanks for your comments. I appreciate if anyone lets us know if finds such a program.

I use DTMF tones to navigate in my voicemail and everything works fine here.

Dial / DTMF tones during a call not being played - Samsung say it's not a feature!

Use Case:
1. Call a conference call number eg: WebEx
2. You are asked to enter the meeting number
3. You press the numbers but no tones are played
Had a tech support call with Samsung just now.
Firstly they say this isn't a feature on EU Note 8s (WTF!)
Then say it should work out of the box and my phone is faulty so take it to a Samsung centre for evaluation / exchange
I reckon this is a software bug. Can someone else in the EU dial any number and when you're connected to the call, press a number on the dial pad and tell me if you hear the tone played?

Im not in EU, but in the states it works fine, i have many conference calls daily and it always works for me entering my codes to get into the call. It should be working fine on your model as well, possible a issue with the carrier side of things or its turned off in the hidden settings.
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Try ##DATA#, if it brings up a menu, put in 000000 as your msl, then go to More, then go to DTMF SET. See if its off or not set at all? US model has a option here for this at least.

Hi
The ##2832# doesn't work on my phone. It's a real pig seeing as I work remotely!
Don't even seem to be able to use a 3rd party DTMF tone generator either (well I can but the system at the other end isn't hearing the tones).

joebongo said:
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The ##2832# doesn't work on my phone. It's a real pig seeing as I work remotely!
Don't even seem to be able to use a 3rd party DTMF tone generator either (well I can but the system at the other end isn't hearing the tones).
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I have a Galaxy N950N and I have this same issue. Did you ever get this working? I can't seem to find a secret service menu to enable it, and I know I'm doing something wrong here.

Hi
Not specifically a fix but the only place I'm having issues with is WebEx. If you try your voicemail, does that work ok? Mine is fine but for some reason WebEx isn't

joebongo said:
Hi
Not specifically a fix but the only place I'm having issues with is WebEx. If you try your voicemail, does that work ok? Mine is fine but for some reason WebEx isn't
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Mine doesn't work across the board, irrespective of voicemail or other conference call. No dial tone is played in-call when you press the dial pad.

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Mine doesn't work across the board, irrespective of voicemail or other conference call. No dial tone is played in-call when you press the dial pad.
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Figured it out. It's the CSC. Apparently, it doesn't work properly with the N950N (at the least the one I had installed, which was default with the Renovate ROM). I had to use the Flashable CSC Selection V1.2.5 from Tkkg1994, manually add the greatlte line into it, and once flashed, I got all the options in the dialer for TTY (I think which relates to DTMF), and most importantly, sound feedback when pressing the dialpad while in-call.

Solution
Go to settings -> sound and vibration -> uncheck the the dialling keypad tones(if checked).
Hope this helps!

this works. Go figure... you disable the dialling keypad tones and you can now use the keypad tones. Thanks for the help. This has infuriated me for months

I had not payed any attention to this, as I used some services that require you to input numeric options during call, and all worked fine, but, yes, no tones heard, but the tones are sent anyway

What worked for me was dialing the original number manually - not from the phone memory or contacts!

I use a Gigaset HC450 Doorbell that is able to divert a call.
This is a rare device, check ebay, it is a DECT phone on a Siemens Gigaset IP Base Station with a SIP provider configured)
So if someone presses the doorbell button on the Gigaset HC450 and status is set to AWAY
then the configured SIP provider inside the BASE station does an external call to my mobile because I set up my mobile number inside the HC450 Menu for Diversion
So my mobile is a Samsung Note 8, at the moment i run Stock Hungarian unbranded firmware N950F
When there is a call from the doorbell, there is a sentence said by a female voice: "Doorbell is ringing, to connect press 1, to stop press hash"
I cannot proceed by pressing 1, neither with Dialpad tones activated nor deactivated, and also a 3rd party DTMF tone generator does not work
Someone in this thread said it was fixed by flashing different CSC, which i think is not true because many said that they got webex fixed by simpy DEACTIVATING dialpad tones
I am greatful for all ideas that you have in order to get this working, its a new challange and I found this thread so I posted my topic here, too
Thank you very much for reading