MS voice command vs Voice Speed dial - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hello
can somebody help me understanding the difference betwenn Voice command and speed dial and if I can use both on the same PDA ?
So far I understand that
- Speed Dial dials numbers and start programs by using voice tags
- you need to train each name to be recognized
- there is no true voice recognition
- Voice command dials numbers and starts programs by voice recognition
- in addition VC reads calendar entries and SMS/E-Mail
- there is no training mode to increase accurancy
So which program would provide better results for recognize and dial numbers by voice ?
Can I run both in parallel and use VC for the calendar function and Voice speed dial for the dialing ?
Plus I try to install VC 1.6 now .. but the button maps only to the explorer button on my TytnII .. not able to move him to the voice record button with the button application in settings
any suggestion / fix
Thanks freecall

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not able to move him to the voice record button with the button application in settings
any suggestion / fix
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I have the same problem.... any solution?!?!?!?

Cyberon is crap. I posted a detailed procedure for replacing it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337501

I have installed Cyberon voice commander v2.0 and i am very happy with it when i use it with my bluetooth!!!
My only problem is that i do not know how to assign this program to the default "button 6".
I think default settings are:
"Button 6" --> Cyberon voice commander and
"Button 6 (Hold)" --> Record. (This one works).

hmm that sounds like a drastic deinstall .. so anyway to get the Voice speed dial back without doing a full hard reset if I would it like better than VC after some testing ?
Freecall

M$ Voice Command ROCKS!
Ok I don’t say that about many applications especially M$ ones but I love VC. I keep my phone in its case and the BT ear piece in the ear, when the phone rings or I get a Text message VC tells me who is calling or reads the text to me. If I have an appointment but don’t recall what time it is, I just ask VC.
As far as accuracy in voice dial, it can’t be beat, say “Call: Joe Blow on mobile phone” and it will confirm “Call Joe Blow on mobile?” never misses. Say; “Dial 2125551212” and it will confirm and dial the number. No voice tags no training and it works for anyone. If my wife grabs my phone and needs to call someone she hits the VC button and off she goes.
Ok so there is one issue, with the Tilt there is no convenient button to map too, but since I do all my dialing from the BT headset or car unit it doesn’t matter to me. If you don’t mind it maped to your IE soft key ok, you can get to IE 3 or 4 other ways. On my old wizard (long live the wizard) I had it mapped to the record button and it worked great.
Russ741

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Ok I don’t say that about many applications especially M$ ones but I love VC. I keep my phone in its case and the BT ear piece in the ear, when the phone rings or I get a Text message VC tells me who is calling or reads the text to me. If I have an appointment but don’t recall what time it is, I just ask VC.
As far as accuracy in voice dial, it can’t be beat, say “Call: Joe Blow on mobile phone” and it will confirm “Call Joe Blow on mobile?” never misses. Say; “Dial 2125551212” and it will confirm and dial the number. No voice tags no training and it works for anyone. If my wife grabs my phone and needs to call someone she hits the VC button and off she goes.
Ok so there is one issue, with the Tilt there is no convenient button to map too, but since I do all my dialing from the BT headset or car unit it doesn’t matter to me. If you don’t mind it maped to your IE soft key ok, you can get to IE 3 or 4 other ways. On my old wizard (long live the wizard) I had it mapped to the record button and it worked great.
Russ741
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I have to agree with Russ. Microsoft Voice Commander is by far the best ~$17.00 I have spent for this phone, as well as the 8125 I had before this. The Voice regconition is awesome. I did have to change the buttons as described above. I chose the camera button as I never use the camera anyway. It works great with my HT700(headset) as well as the HT820(bluetooth headphones). The options allow for a good level of customization as well.

that sounds realy good and I will start testing it .Two quick questions to the comments above:
- have you installed VC without deleting / un-installing Voice speed dial on your Kaiser ?
- second it looks my device recognize all VC commands like time, date , help , signal etc but when I say call First Name Last Name it never finds any of my 590 contacts .. even it the name is as simple as Taxi G7 .. beep comes back empty .
When I say just call .. it dials a number I do not even recognize.
Can this be related that I do not have a option menu for contact in the VC settings (it is greyed ) , I can only select the notification button ?
Or is this maybe because I use PI 2007 ?
Thanks Freecall

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that sounds realy good and I will start testing it .Two quick questions to the comments above:
- have you installed VC without deleting / un-installing Voice speed dial on your Kaiser ?
- second it looks my device recognize all VC commands like time, date , help , signal etc but when I say call First Name Last Name it never finds any of my 590 contacts .. even it the name is as simple as Taxi G7 .. beep comes back empty .
When I say just call .. it dials a number I do not even recognize.
Can this be related that I do not have a option menu for contact in the VC settings (it is greyed ) , I can only select the notification button ?
Or is this maybe because I use PI 2007 ?
Thanks Freecall
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freecall,
Right now i have both installed (getting ready to delete Voice Dial) and VC is partially functional. I will accept commands and process them correctly but it will not announce calls, read messages or calendar data. So once i have VD removed I will let you know.
I recommend you also remove voice dial before trying anymore tests.
Russ741

Russ741 said:
freecall,
Right now i have both installed (getting ready to delete Voice Dial) and VC is partially functional. I will accept commands and process them correctly but it will not announce calls, read messages or calendar data. So once i have VD removed I will let you know.
I recommend you also remove voice dial before trying anymore tests.
Russ741
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I did not uninstall Voice Dial. IF you want to hear the calls and emails, make you configure VC properly. There is settings for only:
1.) Only announce during Free-Time. Make sure you check that one to whatever you want.
2.) Only High Priorty Emails get annouced. Again, check whichever option you want.

Where do I get a list of commands that VC will recognize? E.G Dial, Recall, on Mobile, etc.

Say "What can I say?" and you'll have your answer...

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Where do I get a list of commands that VC will recognize? E.G Dial, Recall, on Mobile, etc.
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or go to the Microsoft website and look up VoiceCommand 1.6 for PPC. The list is really quite long!
Russ741

Any ideas Gang?
So, after following the thread for removing voice dialer and remapping the PTT button to become button 6 and button 6 (hold) VC is still not announcing incoming calls (and yes I have configured the options!) anyone have any idea why it would perform 90% of its duty and not the last 10%?
Russ741

Are you sure it's not announcing them, or is it possible it's announcing them through the "wrong" speaker? If you've got it set to use BT, BT, and only BT, then all of the announcements go through the headset, or don't get made if it's not currently connected (like walking out of range and then back in).
I tweaked mine to announce only through the speaker, then turned it off because the robot voice annoyed me, but at first I thought it wasn't working...

One question about VC...
Do you have to say the person's full name to dial them? Let's say I have a contact name John Smith, do I have to say "Call John Smith Mobile", or can I program nicknames somewhere within the software so I can say something like "Call Smitty"?

It's based on the contact name, so "Call Smitty" will confuse it.

Is it possible to send messages just using voice or only receive them?

jackjohnson said:
One question about VC...
Do you have to say the person's full name to dial them? Let's say I have a contact name John Smith, do I have to say "Call John Smith Mobile", or can I program nicknames somewhere within the software so I can say something like "Call Smitty"?
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It is based on what ever names you have in contacts so, for example if I want to call my office I say; "Call work" since there is only one number in the contacts database VC doesnt ask for Mobile, home or work. And since my office is just listed as First Name: Work Last Name: <blank> it understands.
Russ741

emmit said:
Is it possible to send messages just using voice or only receive them?
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I simply reads the text or email to you, so there is no way to compose a message with VC.
Russ741

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DTMF

On the nokia's when in a call u can use dtmf which will dial a number in ur phonebook whilst on the phone... i've tried this on the xda but dont know where or how to do it.... can any1 tell me how i go about getting this done?
Thx in adv.
http://dialdtmf.sourceforge.net/
"dialDTMF a Pocket PC (Pocket Contact) plugin to dial telephone numbers using DTMF's (aka Dual Tone Multi-Frequency)"
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I've always found that you can just dial numbers while you're in a call, you just use the... dialpad. :/
I had one contact which dials one of those 0870 numbers for cheaper international calls, someone pointed out to me that to get the phone to pause inbetween dialing a number, you could setup a Contact with commas to achieve a pause (I think each comma pauses the dialing for about a second)... So I have 0870234821,,001598238 (for example, the numbers aren't real numbers, but you get the idea).
I've always found that I can just dial on the keypad if I'm in a call though, you just dial and it dials the DTMF. Am I missing a trick here? I've not installed any other dialing software, I'm just using the supplied software, just with the default skin.
i know wot u mean.... but i'm contstantly having to dial numbers whilst in call, so it would be useful to have a tool that will allow you to do this rather than dummying number and having a pause for different dtmf's
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http://dialdtmf.sourceforge.net/
"dialDTMF a Pocket PC (Pocket Contact) plugin to dial telephone numbers using DTMF's (aka Dual Tone Multi-Frequency)"
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i've tried this software but whilst incall, it doesnt trigger off... am i doing something wrong.
I see what you mean...
... Here's a thought; how about recording some combos of DTMF tones to predefined wave files, and triggering them on the phone whilst you're in a call? There's a chance the phone might pick them up as they're being played, and relay them down the line... Just a thought for this morning, one I've not tried in practice yet, but it might work.
it is good to use.
i use short tone and delay time change to 50ms.
nice !
thanks a lot
Can't get dialDTMF to work. The tones are played when I go to contacts -> dialDTMF, but only when NOT in a call. If I'm in a call and try to use dialDTMF nothing happens after I pick either work/home/mobile number.
Or am I using this tool the wrong way?

"Showing 2 Found" ? Voice Command Response

Since installing the "fixed" version of Voice Command 1.6, which provides for Caller ID Announce, I have gotten this weird, almost unintelligible response from the Voice Command lady when I say "Call _____", for many of my contacts - I thought it was a different language at first, because she spoke so fast - it sounded like "Shelly to fawn" spoken really fast - weird, because most of the Voice Command responses are reasonably slow and articulate. I finally figured out that she is saying "Showing 2 Found", because she finds the named contact in the main memory and in the SIM contacts.
I have SIM contacts hidden, they don't show when I access Contacts, so I don't understand why Voice Command ("fixed") insists on accessing them. Before I installed the "fix", I used the standard Voice Command and Caller ID v1.05 by Bad Sector, and this did not occur.
Has anyone else experienced this anomaly?
SIM Contacts hidden in Contacts, but Voice Command still sees them, causing confusion
I posted this 5 days ago, and not a single reply. Wow.
Similar thread in Wizard forum - apparently this is an issue with WM6 and Voice Command:
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in this thread
I just tried to duplicate this and got the following...
When I said, "Call Joe Smith" and that person is on both sim card and contacts it will say, "Showing two (or more) found, call this Joe Smith?"
If I said no, it then put me into contacts and asked, "call Joe Smith at home or mobile?" So this is not a impossible situation but definitely a pain in the ass.
However, you are right, this is definitely something weird with WM6. I just never noticed it before. I actually occasionally switch phones so deleting #;s off the SIM really isn't an option for me.
Let's see what the real geniuses can figure out.
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I am having this same problem on AT&T Tilt. SIM contacts are hidden, don't show in Contacts, but when I say "Call xxx", Voice Command says "Showing 2 Found" (says it so quickly that it took me dozens of listens to figure out what was being said - sounded like "Shelly2Fawn" or some other language when I first heard it.
I know I can delete all contacts on SIM and this issue will go away, but I'd like to have contacts on SIM, because I have a cheap backup phone that I want to be able to use PRN, e.g. go to beach, or in adverse weather situation.
cushcalc said:
Since installing the "fixed" version of Voice Command 1.6, which provides for Caller ID Announce, I have gotten this weird, almost unintelligible response from the Voice Command lady when I say "Call _____", for many of my contacts - I thought it was a different language at first, because she spoke so fast - it sounded like "Shelly to fawn" spoken really fast - weird, because most of the Voice Command responses are reasonably slow and articulate. I finally figured out that she is saying "Showing 2 Found", because she finds the named contact in the main memory and in the SIM contacts.
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Sounds more like, to me, "please answer or not at home" through my Blueant Z9 via my Tilt when I get an incoming call. FWIW, no cooked ROMs, only the latest ATT ROM.
Duplicate contacts are what causes problem
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Sounds more like, to me, "please answer or not at home" through my Blueant Z9 via my Tilt when I get an incoming call. FWIW, no cooked ROMs, only the latest ATT ROM.
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I'm pretty sure she says "showing 2 found". This only happens if there is a duplicate in Contacts or on the SIM card.
I have a Tilt, and this also happens when I have multiple numbers in a single contact. I'll hear "Showing two found, call ***** at work/home/mobile?" and then a mic prompt (waiting for a yes or no).
I've also heard "Showing three found," but it's kind of rare... I guess most people that need three phone numbers are too intense for me to want to call.
to change the speed of Voice Command perform the following:
1. Start up your Registry Editor program.
2. Find the following:
- HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Speech\Voices
3. Change the DefaultTTSRate string/value:
- 4 (default)
4. Increasing the number will increase the speed of the voice, while decreasing the number will slow it.
Then with your contacts, just rename them so you know who they are - example "Karen Jones" change to "Karen Work Jones".
Hope this helps you

Say Callers Name

Hi
I used to own a MDA Vario until it died. I loved the phone but for some reason ended up with an N95 as a replacement.
I have never got on with the N95 and have finally bitten the bullet and bought the O2 XDA Stellar.
The only feature I like on the N95 is the 'Say Callers Name' function where it reads out the contact name of the caller. It sounds really tacky and robotic but I find it really useful.
Does the Stellar/Tytn 2 come with such a function or is one available?
Thanks
Steven
if you have MS voice command
Thanks for that, I looked at Voice Command but assumed it was just for controlling the phone.
I will give it a go.
Thanks.
...just download a speech engine on a pc & record the caller's personal ring with his name...
Then assign the ring to the contact... and if you use a profile manager, you can create a BT Headset profile wich say caller's name instead of the music....
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...just download a speech engine on a pc & record the caller's personal ring with his name...
Then assign the ring to the contact... and if you use a profile manager, you can create a BT Headset profile wich say caller's name instead of the music....
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that seems way to tedious, have to record a name for each caller and assign it. some people have hundreds of numbers. doing that to like 10 is already too much. must be a better way. i am also interested. i'll check out voice commander as well.

voice dial and program launch

Hello
I have an att tilt and am a new user. My question is about the voice dial feature and voice launch feature.
In looking at the manual it seems like after you set up the voice feature for each number or program, you still need to go to start / tools / voice dial just to launch it. Is it me or does this seem to defeat the purpose of voice activating a program? You need to hit a series of keys when it might be just as quick or quicker to just launch the program or dial the number.
Does anyone have any suggestions to maybe make this function more easily accessable when you are lets say driving?
Also does anyone know if bluetooth headsets that say they support voice dialing will activate this function?
Thank you
Adam
Your best choice would probably be a bluetooth headset. On those, you just press one button and say who you want to call and it calls.
There's also a program called Voice Commander - but it's not that good yet, it has voice recognition.. just google it or search this forum.
If you're not driving, using smartdial is probably the way to go. Your Kaiser/Tilt should come with it. You just start typing person's name and it appears in the list.
Another opion might be to use HTC Home - you will have about 7-8 boxes with people's names or photos.. you just tap on in and it calls that person.
Oh, and by the way... you can go to start/settings/personal/buttons and assign a hardware button to that voice application.
Hope this helps..
Don't you have a button that activates the voice dial? In my TyTN there is a button on the right side of it. I used to push it accidentally all the time - it made me so annoyed that I turned it off.

Read Out Caller's Name..

Hi all..
Is there any way i can make my Diamond read out the caller's name whenever the phone rings.. as in the N series (Nokia) phones.. This feature is very handy, that i dont need to go to the table to see who's calling...
It already does that automatically. If you have the programmed the number in your contacts list, it will automatically search the name corresponding with the caller's nr.
Or, did you mean something else?
Speaker is not that loud on Jewel.
But I would definitely be interested in this.
I think 'Voice Command' does it!
Do a search ...
Dear Akito, i mean My Nokia N73 (All N series) reads the name in between playing the ringtone... That is ---Ringtone--Name---Ringtone---Name--, so i can here the name of person calling me from far off the room.. and that's an in built feature of N series not a third party software..
You could do this manually, I have a lot of peoples voices as my ringtones. I simply make them say something, and record it. Then I associate the recording with the corresp. person, so I always know who's calling, if it's someone from my contacts, even before I get my phone out of my pocket... Besides it's a lot of fun, some of my "ringtones" are hilarious
Dear Flipside your idea is good, but not functional, i mean i have over 670 contacts, i can't keep manually making a ringtone for each!!! My Nokia N73 reads any new name added to the adress book..!!
anyway thanks for the idea, i can do that for my close contacts
Yeah, I'm a big fan of this feature on my N73 (although Bulgarian names often don't sound quite right ). Especially when listening to music thru stereo headset or driving car with bluetooth handsfree (which is most of the time for me) and your phone is not that easy to reach in your pocket.
Can somebody confirm is there any 3rd party app that does that?
Generally that`s not an N73 feature but a Symbian feature ... so any Symbian phone of 60v3 at least can do that. It did my N80 and N6120 as well ... and I would be happy if Diamond has this feature.
So finally as yet no solutions to this?????
Try Microsoft Voice Command.
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Try Microsoft Voice Command.
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I´m very interested in this issue. Has anybody test it?
Can MS Voice Command speak caller´s names?
thanks
jcpc12 said:
I´m very interested in this issue. Has anybody test it?
Can MS Voice Command speak caller´s names?
thanks
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Yea and it can even read out your text messages
Yes MS Voice Command does this:
Spoken caller ID. Windows Mobile smartphone users can take full advantage of incoming caller ID without ever looking down at the screen. Incoming call information is announced as calls are received. Users who think they may have missed a call can simply ask, "What calls did I miss?" and Voice Command will recite the time and phone number of missed calls. (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/downloads/microsoft/voice-command-features.mspx)
Good luck

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