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MS voice command vs Voice Speed dial

Hello
can somebody help me understanding the difference betwenn Voice command and speed dial and if I can use both on the same PDA ?
So far I understand that
- Speed Dial dials numbers and start programs by using voice tags
- you need to train each name to be recognized
- there is no true voice recognition
- Voice command dials numbers and starts programs by voice recognition
- in addition VC reads calendar entries and SMS/E-Mail
- there is no training mode to increase accurancy
So which program would provide better results for recognize and dial numbers by voice ?
Can I run both in parallel and use VC for the calendar function and Voice speed dial for the dialing ?
Plus I try to install VC 1.6 now .. but the button maps only to the explorer button on my TytnII .. not able to move him to the voice record button with the button application in settings
any suggestion / fix
Thanks freecall

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not able to move him to the voice record button with the button application in settings
any suggestion / fix
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I have the same problem.... any solution?!?!?!?

Cyberon is crap. I posted a detailed procedure for replacing it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337501

I have installed Cyberon voice commander v2.0 and i am very happy with it when i use it with my bluetooth!!!
My only problem is that i do not know how to assign this program to the default "button 6".
I think default settings are:
"Button 6" --> Cyberon voice commander and
"Button 6 (Hold)" --> Record. (This one works).

hmm that sounds like a drastic deinstall .. so anyway to get the Voice speed dial back without doing a full hard reset if I would it like better than VC after some testing ?
Freecall

M$ Voice Command ROCKS!
Ok I don’t say that about many applications especially M$ ones but I love VC. I keep my phone in its case and the BT ear piece in the ear, when the phone rings or I get a Text message VC tells me who is calling or reads the text to me. If I have an appointment but don’t recall what time it is, I just ask VC.
As far as accuracy in voice dial, it can’t be beat, say “Call: Joe Blow on mobile phone” and it will confirm “Call Joe Blow on mobile?” never misses. Say; “Dial 2125551212” and it will confirm and dial the number. No voice tags no training and it works for anyone. If my wife grabs my phone and needs to call someone she hits the VC button and off she goes.
Ok so there is one issue, with the Tilt there is no convenient button to map too, but since I do all my dialing from the BT headset or car unit it doesn’t matter to me. If you don’t mind it maped to your IE soft key ok, you can get to IE 3 or 4 other ways. On my old wizard (long live the wizard) I had it mapped to the record button and it worked great.
Russ741

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Ok I don’t say that about many applications especially M$ ones but I love VC. I keep my phone in its case and the BT ear piece in the ear, when the phone rings or I get a Text message VC tells me who is calling or reads the text to me. If I have an appointment but don’t recall what time it is, I just ask VC.
As far as accuracy in voice dial, it can’t be beat, say “Call: Joe Blow on mobile phone” and it will confirm “Call Joe Blow on mobile?” never misses. Say; “Dial 2125551212” and it will confirm and dial the number. No voice tags no training and it works for anyone. If my wife grabs my phone and needs to call someone she hits the VC button and off she goes.
Ok so there is one issue, with the Tilt there is no convenient button to map too, but since I do all my dialing from the BT headset or car unit it doesn’t matter to me. If you don’t mind it maped to your IE soft key ok, you can get to IE 3 or 4 other ways. On my old wizard (long live the wizard) I had it mapped to the record button and it worked great.
Russ741
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I have to agree with Russ. Microsoft Voice Commander is by far the best ~$17.00 I have spent for this phone, as well as the 8125 I had before this. The Voice regconition is awesome. I did have to change the buttons as described above. I chose the camera button as I never use the camera anyway. It works great with my HT700(headset) as well as the HT820(bluetooth headphones). The options allow for a good level of customization as well.

that sounds realy good and I will start testing it .Two quick questions to the comments above:
- have you installed VC without deleting / un-installing Voice speed dial on your Kaiser ?
- second it looks my device recognize all VC commands like time, date , help , signal etc but when I say call First Name Last Name it never finds any of my 590 contacts .. even it the name is as simple as Taxi G7 .. beep comes back empty .
When I say just call .. it dials a number I do not even recognize.
Can this be related that I do not have a option menu for contact in the VC settings (it is greyed ) , I can only select the notification button ?
Or is this maybe because I use PI 2007 ?
Thanks Freecall

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that sounds realy good and I will start testing it .Two quick questions to the comments above:
- have you installed VC without deleting / un-installing Voice speed dial on your Kaiser ?
- second it looks my device recognize all VC commands like time, date , help , signal etc but when I say call First Name Last Name it never finds any of my 590 contacts .. even it the name is as simple as Taxi G7 .. beep comes back empty .
When I say just call .. it dials a number I do not even recognize.
Can this be related that I do not have a option menu for contact in the VC settings (it is greyed ) , I can only select the notification button ?
Or is this maybe because I use PI 2007 ?
Thanks Freecall
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freecall,
Right now i have both installed (getting ready to delete Voice Dial) and VC is partially functional. I will accept commands and process them correctly but it will not announce calls, read messages or calendar data. So once i have VD removed I will let you know.
I recommend you also remove voice dial before trying anymore tests.
Russ741

Russ741 said:
freecall,
Right now i have both installed (getting ready to delete Voice Dial) and VC is partially functional. I will accept commands and process them correctly but it will not announce calls, read messages or calendar data. So once i have VD removed I will let you know.
I recommend you also remove voice dial before trying anymore tests.
Russ741
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I did not uninstall Voice Dial. IF you want to hear the calls and emails, make you configure VC properly. There is settings for only:
1.) Only announce during Free-Time. Make sure you check that one to whatever you want.
2.) Only High Priorty Emails get annouced. Again, check whichever option you want.

Where do I get a list of commands that VC will recognize? E.G Dial, Recall, on Mobile, etc.

Say "What can I say?" and you'll have your answer...

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Where do I get a list of commands that VC will recognize? E.G Dial, Recall, on Mobile, etc.
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or go to the Microsoft website and look up VoiceCommand 1.6 for PPC. The list is really quite long!
Russ741

Any ideas Gang?
So, after following the thread for removing voice dialer and remapping the PTT button to become button 6 and button 6 (hold) VC is still not announcing incoming calls (and yes I have configured the options!) anyone have any idea why it would perform 90% of its duty and not the last 10%?
Russ741

Are you sure it's not announcing them, or is it possible it's announcing them through the "wrong" speaker? If you've got it set to use BT, BT, and only BT, then all of the announcements go through the headset, or don't get made if it's not currently connected (like walking out of range and then back in).
I tweaked mine to announce only through the speaker, then turned it off because the robot voice annoyed me, but at first I thought it wasn't working...

One question about VC...
Do you have to say the person's full name to dial them? Let's say I have a contact name John Smith, do I have to say "Call John Smith Mobile", or can I program nicknames somewhere within the software so I can say something like "Call Smitty"?

It's based on the contact name, so "Call Smitty" will confuse it.

Is it possible to send messages just using voice or only receive them?

jackjohnson said:
One question about VC...
Do you have to say the person's full name to dial them? Let's say I have a contact name John Smith, do I have to say "Call John Smith Mobile", or can I program nicknames somewhere within the software so I can say something like "Call Smitty"?
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It is based on what ever names you have in contacts so, for example if I want to call my office I say; "Call work" since there is only one number in the contacts database VC doesnt ask for Mobile, home or work. And since my office is just listed as First Name: Work Last Name: <blank> it understands.
Russ741

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Is it possible to send messages just using voice or only receive them?
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I simply reads the text or email to you, so there is no way to compose a message with VC.
Russ741

Say Callers Name

Hi
I used to own a MDA Vario until it died. I loved the phone but for some reason ended up with an N95 as a replacement.
I have never got on with the N95 and have finally bitten the bullet and bought the O2 XDA Stellar.
The only feature I like on the N95 is the 'Say Callers Name' function where it reads out the contact name of the caller. It sounds really tacky and robotic but I find it really useful.
Does the Stellar/Tytn 2 come with such a function or is one available?
Thanks
Steven

if you have MS voice command

Thanks for that, I looked at Voice Command but assumed it was just for controlling the phone.
I will give it a go.
Thanks.

...just download a speech engine on a pc & record the caller's personal ring with his name...
Then assign the ring to the contact... and if you use a profile manager, you can create a BT Headset profile wich say caller's name instead of the music....

SkizZO said:
...just download a speech engine on a pc & record the caller's personal ring with his name...
Then assign the ring to the contact... and if you use a profile manager, you can create a BT Headset profile wich say caller's name instead of the music....
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that seems way to tedious, have to record a name for each caller and assign it. some people have hundreds of numbers. doing that to like 10 is already too much. must be a better way. i am also interested. i'll check out voice commander as well.

AT&T Answer Machine Voice Mail

Dev Friends,
Just recently I signed up with the Answer Tones through AT&T which I think is very cool then the lame ole ring-ring you hear all the time!
So I decided to change my personalized voice message. I used text to speech with music in the background. Mixed it down to a .wav file and would to use this as my personalized message.
Anyone know how this can be through AT&T? Only way I know how is to hold the mic up to the spearker and play the .wav file.. Kinda of lame and qty is bad....
Ideas anyone?
Tvos

try useing youmail.com thats what i use...

would it be possible to create a audio recording computer based using soundforge, acid pro to .wmv or .mp3 and upload it to this service?
i am not interested recording a voicemail thru the phone receiver.
pls advise.
tvos

There is no way to upload your own stuff/files to ATT. The only way is to add it via the phones mouthpiece.

thanx for the info. i looked on the site and appeared that way, but
thought i would ask.
tvos

tvos said:
would it be possible to create a audio recording computer based using soundforge, acid pro to .wmv or .mp3 and upload it to this service?
i am not interested recording a voicemail thru the phone receiver.
pls advise.
tvos
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yah u can do that with youmail

jnc8651 said:
yah u can do that with youmail
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www.youmail.com is the ****. I love the smart calling feature. Example.
Say somebody calls you on your phone. This is what they will heard.
"Hello (person calling names) (Your Name) can't come to the phone right now. Please leave a message.

AllTheWay said:
www.youmail.com is the ****. I love the smart calling feature. Example.
Say somebody calls you on your phone. This is what they will heard.
"Hello (person calling names) (Your Name) can't come to the phone right now. Please leave a message.
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What I like about YouMail is that you can set custom VM messages for specific callers. I also have it set so people calling with a caller ID block get a message stating that I do not accept blocked calls. The voicemail can also be delivered to your email inbox, and in the case of work if someone leaves you a message on a project that someone else is handling you can just forward the email (and the message) to the right person. The only thing that bothers me is that I haven't figured out how to make the VM indicator work with YouMail (This may not even be possible, but I still try)
-Jay

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What I like about YouMail is that you can set custom VM messages for specific callers. I also have it set so people calling with a caller ID block get a message stating that I do not accept blocked calls. The voicemail can also be delivered to your email inbox, and in the case of work if someone leaves you a message on a project that someone else is handling you can just forward the email (and the message) to the right person. The only thing that bothers me is that I haven't figured out how to make the VM indicator work with YouMail (This may not even be possible, but I still try)
-Jay
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its possible u just need to go in to the page with the text settings....

How to set different ringtones that a CALLER HEARS...

I am VERY sorry if this has already been asked/answered. I did a search here, on Google and several other places and seem to keep getting similar topics but not the exact topic I need.
How do I set my tilt to play a different ringtone that the CALLER HEARS, not me.
For example, if John calls me, HE HEARS Ringtone A and if Mary calls me, SHE HEARS Ringtone B.
So, if I have someone from my business call me, they hear a conservative professional type ringing but if a friend of mine calls me, they hear something more progressive.
It doesn't matter to me what I HEAR... This is what I keep getting responses to in my searches.
Thanks,
M!

http://www.answertones.wireless.att.com/AT/HTML/

Ok.. you have to call your provider and ask for Caller Tones. You have to pay for that through your provider. I think it's pointless. Whenever I call someone and hear that I just hang up because I don't know whether it's a caller tone or some idiot who recorded his voicemail to a 2 minute Usher track. Traditional Ring is better I'd say.

I have an annoying collection agency calling me for something that is not mine and no matter how many times I tell them, they keep calling with an automated caller. I wanted to set the incoming call to play the "Disconnected phone #" tones that will make their system automatically remove me (kind of like a Tele-Zapper).
My provider is ATT...
Thanks!
M

gqstatus0685 said:
Ok.. you have to call your provider and ask for Caller Tones. You have to pay for that through your provider. I think it's pointless. Whenever I call someone and hear that I just hang up because I don't know whether it's a caller tone or some idiot who recorded his voicemail to a 2 minute Usher track. Traditional Ring is better I'd say.
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I fully agree
I have an annoying collection agency calling me for something that is not mine and no matter how many times I tell them, they keep calling with an automated caller. I wanted to set the incoming call to play the "Disconnected phone #" tones that will make their system automatically remove me (kind of like a Tele-Zapper).
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But that's an awesome idea, actually. However, I'd find some trashy movie where someone swears like there's no tommorow and play that to them. haha.

diskwzrd said:
I have an annoying collection agency calling me for something that is not mine and no matter how many times I tell them, they keep calling with an automated caller. I wanted to set the incoming call to play the "Disconnected phone #" tones that will make their system automatically remove me (kind of like a Tele-Zapper).
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I have no insight into the internals of PSTN networks and automated callers (thank god we don't have this nuisance in Europe), but isn't this kind information transfered "out of band" (i.e. outside the sound)? I don't think that machines do a sound frequency recoginition in order to detect the call state - hell, we're in the digital age!

diskwzrd said:
I have an annoying collection agency calling me for something that is not mine and no matter how many times I tell them, they keep calling with an automated caller. I wanted to set the incoming call to play the "Disconnected phone #" tones that will make their system automatically remove me (kind of like a Tele-Zapper).
My provider is ATT...
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M
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you press some number to remove you on their list when they prompt you

diskwzrd, if you have t-mobile they have a service for this.

You could set your voicemail to a service like youmail.com. They allow you to set your greeting per caller or group of callers including unknown/blocked numbers.

ldolezel said:
I have no insight into the internals of PSTN networks and automated callers (thank god we don't have this nuisance in Europe), but isn't this kind information transfered "out of band" (i.e. outside the sound)? I don't think that machines do a sound frequency recoginition in order to detect the call state - hell, we're in the digital age!
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The SS7 network does pass certain calling information out-of-band however it triggers the calling switch to play the proper intercept message. In some instances where the calling & dialed switches cannot establish an SS7 connection then the intercept message is played by the dialed switch, etc, etc. So the actual message is played in-band... the caller does need to hear the message after all. And some auto-dialers do implement some sort of removal procedure if a dialed number results in an intercept message. So it would work in theory, similar to the Telezapper devices... however it would not be 100% effective because not every business cares enough to follow thru on issues such as that.

Answer tones
I tried the answer tones on mine. Verfied I could and after playing all day I looked up on answer tones and the 8525 is supported and not the 8925. So I lost out of my answer tones.
I use Youmail. Like it much better.

I highly recommend using www.youmail.com
I can import my contact list to the website. I can personalize responses to each person in my contact list. I can use the existing service that says, " Hello, (caller name). ______ (my name) is not available right now, please leave a message."
I can select pre recorded messages ( or purchase them). My son gets a theme song to Indiana Jones. They also have holiday specific messages.
Plus I can read or listen to my voicemail via the computer via a web application.
Great service!

Answer Tones on Tilt
jellibean75 said:
I tried the answer tones on mine. Verfied I could and after playing all day I looked up on answer tones and the 8525 is supported and not the 8925. So I lost out of my answer tones.
I use Youmail. Like it much better.
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My wife and I both use Answer Tones on our Tilts. (8925s)

Say Callers Name

Does anyone know of an application for the diamond that will say the callers name during the ringtone like what is available on the Nokia N-Series?
Thanks
D

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I think MS Voice command does it....
I'm not using it... but do a search and you will find more info about it...

That would be a cool app to have, my mates have N95 and they think they are so great... I would love that app to piss them off to show them my jewel is much better (which is is anyway)

Yeh .. Its really useful app I've been using it for a while on my Nokia and I really miss it. Imagine when you mobile rings while you are asleep... you dont need to move nor open your eyes to know the caller

Yes I agreeeee.
And making a recording for every single contact is a hasssllleeee.

from MS Voice Commander's features...
Spoken caller ID. Windows Mobile smartphone users can take full advantage of incoming caller ID without ever looking down at the screen. Incoming call information is announced as calls are received. Users who think they may have missed a call can simply ask, "What calls did I miss?" and Voice Command will recite the time and phone number of missed calls.
also
http://www.terratial.com/dealscl/hollerid/index.htm
didn't test any of them yet, tho

PLoK said:
from MS Voice Commander's features...
http://www.terratial.com/dealscl/hollerid/index.htm
didn't test any of them yet, tho
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Thanks for the finds HollerID seems to be floored as it only supports downloaded soundfiles for a first name i.e. Paul. from their subcribed service. so managing would become a pain [IMHO].
Voice Commander sounds like it could be the answer but I can see this using alot of memory for what is quite a small task.

MS Voice Command does it....and I am trying to turn it off!
It is annoying when the woman calls out the name when on call waiting. Her voice is so damned loud that it drowns out the conversation I am having. i simply CANNOT continue the conversation if I have a call waiting....also, I like my privacy at times and may not want the people around me to know who is calling. MS Voice command has zero options to configure any of this.
Having said that, it works VERY well for voice commands with zero teaching/learning. If you want someone to tell you who is calling, this will do it too.... if you know how to shut her up and just LISTEN for my commands, please PM me! I would love to know how! Some things should only speak when spoken to.....

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It is annoying when the woman calls out the name when on call waiting. Her voice is so damned loud that it drowns out the conversation I am having. i simply CANNOT continue the conversation if I have a call waiting....also, I like my privacy at times and may not want the people around me to know who is calling. MS Voice command has zero options to configure any of this.
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I am also annoyed by the incoming call announcement DURING a call also. Have you found out a way to shut it off DURING a call?