Hi community!
Maybe the information below is already posted and I was to silly to find it in the forum, anyway:
Today (28. September) I asked HTC if there will be a Windows Mobile 6 Upgrade for the P3600 as I'm planning to get on and I always like to have an original backup ROM.
There simple statement in a longer e-mail (I'm not posting it here as there a confidential statement there...):
Trinity won't be updated...
Of course this doesn't exclude updates "endprovided" by network operators (see the trinity wiki) but I don't like this future view...
So ROM chiefs: go on cooking the best WM6 ROM!!! - Thanks for your effort!
Yes, that's the way HTC treats its customer.
We all may remember this, when the time will come to buy our next phone.
Actually your topic has already been reported, with the complete copy of HTC's mail, and some analysis of the reason why they carry out such a poor policy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=318225&page=43
I will add one more reason:
Now that they have launched their new P3600i, they don't want people to stick to their 'old' p3600 any longer... and granting them with a brand new free wm6 upgrade, wouldn't have dissuaded them enough from doing so.
Is there any reliable information about when the official froyo update is coming from rogers? I read some random post saying that that it is coming in mid-December (i.e. now), or some others saying mid January. I'm inclined to believe the later date, however if somebody some concrete information it would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
Given Rogers track record on timing of products whether they be for software updates or product releases, I wouldn't trust any source reliable or not. Sometimes its just best to say... 'you'll get it when it's available'
I've realized that a 'no-expectations' approach is often the best when it comes to Rogers.
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Google-Android-Spyware-iOS-Carrier-IQ,news-13366.html
In the article above it is stated that some Samsung devices have this spying background services.
Is it present to GNote?
How we get rid of it?
Are we spied?
I don't think so. I ran TreveE's Logging Checker and nothing came up.
Mine's KJ4 on Vodafone UK...
Senator Al Franken has already asked Carrier IQ to explain how and why its software can track and transmit sensitive data on millions of smartphones.
I can't insert the link because i'm a new user here, but in the site "Nexus404.com" it's explained, responses will be for the 14 december
@Telster
Run the same tool and it is ok.
I hope answers will be filled soon for the IQ Carrier
No we aren't
Just got this reply from Samsung UK on Twitter.
ccristal
Hello everyone!
After unsuccessfully attempting to flash the oldest available firmware onto my P7300, and having gotten its display dead due to an old bootloader being contained in there, through bringing it back to life.... I decided to do some research on the GSM calling functionality that was available in early pre-release units of the P7300.
There wasn't much to discover. We have all seen the notorious gsmarena.com video, showing the P7300 dialling a number from the contacts app.
Code:
/watch?v=7acOtSX6Foc&hd=1#t=1m35s
I tried contacting gsmarena themselves to no avail. I researched the website's ownership and it even turned out that the website is hosted on a server in Chicago, USA but the organization that pays for it is... wait for it... ARENA KOM OOD. That OOD is the bulgarian equivalent of what germans label as GmBH (Gesellschaft mit begrenzter Haftung). So i searched the Bulgarian national trade registrar and found the company sitting there with contact information. Unfortunately there has been no response from them either.
So I went back to YouTube and watched a bunch of hands-on videos for the Tab 8.9 hoping to see someone open the Settings > About menu.
And voila, I found one. Basically you can see that the tablet has a Call settings entry in the menu and later on you are presented with an HD view of the software build number and kernel version.
Code:
/watch?v=SsUoU966DdE&hd=1#t=1m57s
Since I am no developer, and I am also not yet able to post to development sections, I am seeking assistance for getting someone who knows his way around Samsung' s source code involved.
Perhaps if the source code for Honeycomb as early as 3.0.1 is available, someone can compile it and extract the modem.bin or any other part necessary to support 2G Network voice calling.
How come...
Hasn't anyone anywhere in the world ever dumped a pre-release unit's firmware to make it available for the public before launch?
de3pkeeper said:
Hasn't anyone anywhere in the world ever dumped a pre-release unit's firmware to make it available for the public before launch?
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These arent very popular devices, so I wouldnt count on it.
Well then...
...where did all the review units and the ones from shows that had the functionally go? Don't the reviewers who receive them get to keep them or do they return them to the manufacturer?
If we were somehow able to unlock the bootloader and install custom ROMs, would this solve the Google ban problem or is the device itself banned?
fach1708 said:
If we were somehow able to unlock the bootloader and install custom ROMs, would this solve the Google ban problem or is the device itself banned?
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You should, in theory, be able to install opengapps if it came down to it.
There isn't an issue though as Google has already, on multiple occasions now, stated that current devices will not have their access revoked.
If people could read the news stories it would help...
NJ72 said:
There isn't an issue though as Google has already, on multiple occasions now, stated that current devices will not have their access revoked.
If people could read the news stories it would help...
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If you could read news you would know that current devices will lose support after 90 days
No, Google has said that all existing devices will be supported with security patches.
BBC News - Huawei's use of Android restricted by Google
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48330310
"Existing Huawei smartphone users will be able to update apps and push through security fixes, as well as update Google Play services."
This has been reiterated by Google themselves. So please, read before trying any one-up-manship thanks.
NJ72 said:
No, Google has said that all existing devices will be supported with security patches.
BBC News - Huawei's use of Android restricted by Google
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48330310
"Existing Huawei smartphone users will be able to update apps and push through security fixes, as well as update Google Play services."
This has been reiterated by Google themselves. So please, read before trying any one-up-manship thanks.
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Now let us talk about the difference of OS-Updates/Fixes and Application-Updates/Fixes.
It is a fact that newer Android Releases aswell as Security Updates for the P30 Pro are in jeopardy - not currently but atleast after the temporary license has been withdrawn.
Also Google removed the Mate 20 pro from the Android Q Beta:
https://9to5google.com/2019/05/21/huawei-mate-20-pro-android-q-removal/
Please read the post you've quoted, as well as all the other websites reporting on this.
ALL EXISTING HUAWEI DEVICES WILL BE ABLE TO RECEIVE SECURITY FIXES NOW AND IN THE FUTURE AS PER EXISTING AGREEMENTS.
Beta access is completely different.
https://9to5google.com/2019/05/19/google-existing-huawei-phones/
Read the tweet in the link above from the official Android Twitter account.
NJ72 said:
Please read the post you've quoted, as well as all the other websites reporting on this.
ALL EXISTING HUAWEI DEVICES WILL BE ABLE TO RECEIVE SECURITY FIXES NOW AND IN THE FUTURE AS PER EXISTING AGREEMENTS.
Beta access is completely different.
https://9to5google.com/2019/05/19/google-existing-huawei-phones/
Read the tweet in the link above from the official Android Twitter account.
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In those links my Browser wasn't able to find the Text which you typed in while your Capslock was active.
And the tweet from Android only tells something about Apps and the Playstore, aswell as all other sites. They don't mention that Huawei Users will be able to get Android Q or further Android Versions <-- but that is the biggest point!
Nobody can guarantee if Huawei will provide us with a stable Android Q version. Especially since they announced that theywill provide/are working on their own Operating System.
Let's tackle things in the order you've posted them:
1- I didn't put them in quotation marks, as such it is not lifted directly from a website linked or otherwise (apart from now this one I supposed). It was a paraphrase of all the other websites reporting on the issue.
2- The tweet (along with other sites) state that all future security patches and updates will be made available.
3- Android Q is irrelevant at this point. Security patches are not equal to future OS versions. Android Pie will be supported up to a point, and will continue to receive security patches. The P30 Pro may never get Android Q, I don't recall it ever being promised that it would receive Android Q. If I'm incorrect, and it was promised, then please provide the information. As an extension of this, however, Android Q can still be provided to the P30 Pro through the AOSP which has also been stated in numerous articles and news stories - both linked above and not.
Finally, to reiterate for the people at the back (and this is a direct quote):
"Huawei will continue to provide security updates and after-sales services to all existing Huawei and Honor smartphone and tablet products, covering those that have been sold and that are still in stock globally."
This isn't from a particular link, but is from Huawei themselves. (a copy of this can be found at this link, as well as many others: https://www.standard.co.uk/tech/huawei-google-ban-mean-for-huawei-phone-owners-a4146211.html )
I don't know what is hard for people to understand about this, I really don't. This ban (until it is lifted, which is a whole other discussion) will only affect currently unreleased devices, all existing devices will continue to function as intended, with no disruption to service from either Google, Android or Huawei - something that has been directly stated by all 3 separate entities.
Would you like me to provide any more direct quotations on the matter? Alternatively please contact Huawei directly, as they will forward you on their official statement, as they have done to me and likely everyone else who has contacted them about their P30 Pro.
Regarding Android Q, although it was not technically 'promised', I think that it is expected when you purchase a flagship phone for a lot of money. I expect a lot of people would not have purchased the device if they knew that it would never be updated to newer future versions of Android. I certainly would not have.
I'm just hopeful that if it comes to it, Huawei will be able to use the AOSP code to provide us with Android Q.
Ultimately this is all irrelevant speculation (IMO) as Lord Trumpington is just using this as a power-play to try and strong arm a trade deal with China. Once the trade deal is finalised all trade blocks will be lifted and things will go back to normal.
NJ72 said:
Ultimately this is all irrelevant speculation (IMO) as Lord Trumpington is just using this as a power-play to try and strong arm a trade deal with China. Once the trade deal is finalised all trade blocks will be lifted and things will go back to normal.
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Hopefully you're right