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What phone would you get or have gotten????
ATT 8525, but they ran out of stock right when i purchased my phone, i begged and haggled with my dad, so i ended up getting the 8925/Tilt
Nokia N95 - 3
HP iPAQ 6xx, ETEN M800 (if it wasn't so ugly and had lacking 64MB ram), Nokia N95 8GB.
NuShrike said:
HP iPAQ 6xx, ETEN M800 (if it wasn't so ugly and had lacking 64MB ram), Nokia N95 8GB.
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ipaq if they ever release it, M800 just kinda meh 64mb ram???, N95 8gb if there was an expansion slot somewhere... I mean, its pretty expensive for something that will ALWAYS be limited to 8gb.
I'm trying to find a quad-band equivalent to the w960i, as the premium we're paying for a QWERTY keyboard is still in the "ridiculous" stage.
And I'd rather keep Exchange Activesync functionality so don't bother mentioning the jesus phone again.
I thought id be able to eliminate my ipaq after i bought the tytnii; however, i still have my ipaq as my tytnii just does not work to replace my ipaq because it such a poor device; in reality, it makes a poor cell phone and a poor ipaq replacemet; it does niether well.
After my experience with the tytnii, my next cell phone will be a regular cell
phone such as the razor and i am just going to keep using my ipaq.
In reality, if hp would just make an ipaq with the 3.5 inch touch screen to work as cell like the htc touch, i would buy as hp makes good products (i always like there ipaq products and always wished they had a phone option available for any model). Was looking at the newer hp cell phones coming out; but they either seem rather bulky due to the full blown keyboard or seem to have a small screen - i like the 3.5" screen models.
I know htc has some models that have a 3.5" screen; but i dont think htc has there act together and i no longer trust buying any smart phone from them; particularly, an expensive one.
i would have kept my sony ericsson p1i
N95 8GB or the N82, but they lack the moddabilt of WM phones which I love
Iphone 3G or one of the new I-Mate series.
I would still have my iPhone.
Is still have my T680.
And ill be $750 richer .
I would still have my hermes and be waiting for the imate 9502 (if it ever comes) or the next gen iphone.
Having gone symbian and palm before I'm not going there again!!
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...I thought id be able to eliminate my ipaq after i bought the tytnii; however, i still have my ipaq as my tytnii just does not work to replace my ipaq because it such a poor device; in reality, it makes a poor cell phone and a poor ipaq replacemet; it does niether well...
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Without getting my head bitten off, I can't understand why people come on XDA Devs and complain HEAVILY about their device... why didn't you send the TyTn II back if it is that bad for you?
firstbuddha said:
Without getting my head bitten off, I can't understand why people come on XDA Devs and complain HEAVILY about their device... why didn't you send the TyTn II back if it is that bad for you?
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It's just too late...
iphone 3G + TomTom .... or i-mate 9052
Perhaps, we never satisfy with what we have on our hands until we've lost it. Some other devices seem to be better than ours at first, but they might not be what we expected them to be. We always greed for more, to satisfy our thirst. Indeed, our thirst is never satisfied enough.
It's another quiet morning in Washington, DC after the Shocking Tuesday =)
firstbuddha said:
Without getting my head bitten off, I can't understand why people come on XDA Devs and complain HEAVILY about their device... why didn't you send the TyTn II back if it is that bad for you?
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First, let me say i did not send my device back as i thought the software problems would be fixed; however, it is now looking like no software fix is coming given htc response.
I am complaining heavily because i thought the tytnii would replace my ipaq. I thought i would be able to take notes and do other things "while on a call" just like i do with my ipaq (with the use of seperate cell phone). I thought it would be great if this could be boiled down one device.
However, to use the tytnii as an ipaq "during a call" i need speaker phone to work so that i can see and use the screen so i can access and write data on the screen; however, the speaker phone is defective in most tytnii (if not all). i can hear the caller fine; but they cannot hear me or say i am garbled. Sending the phone in for warranty (which provides for repair or replacement of t does nothing the phone) does nothing to resolve the speaker problem as the replacement is also defective. I think this defect relates to sometype faulty softtware or registry setting; however, currently trying to fix this remains elusive.
The defective speaker is the reason i consider the tytnii a poor cell phone. The inability to use the screen during the call is why i consider it a poor ipaq as my ipaq recieves most of its use "during a call". I am not trying to nit pick; only saying that the tytnii cannot perform as an all in one device if you intend to use it "during a call" as the device is fundamentally flawed for this use.
I post this to help others not make the same mistake. If anyone has suggestions on all in one device that will actually also function as an ipaq "during a call" and that has a decent speaker phone i would like to hear. Ever since i have owned an ipaq, i always wished it had a built in cell phone. My "wish list" is that hp would make all of its ipaq models available with a cell phone option - i really like the 3.5" screen models (without the keyboard --- i find the ones with the full blown keybard are a little to bulky). But this is just a wish list.
my speaker phone works flawless.. i have a tilt
You are lucky with regard to having speaker phone that works. What radio rom you have; there is another person in the forum that is returning his tilt for the 5th time today in an attempt to resolve the speaker phone probelm; maybe if his works also; I might be able to exchange/get replacement phone to resolve speaker problem as so far it has been difficult for me to resolve.
N95 and my dusty StowAway keyboard while waiting for the SE P5. I couldn't go back to an 8525 as the Tilt has really spoiled me in terms of speed and, more importantly, stability.
Ok so here's the story:
Got my HTC Diamond (unlocked version) back in June 2008 for about $700 USD.
Few months later the backlight stops working and it gives me the microp version mismatch error.
I send it in to HTC for repairs, a month later I get it back, working again.
Now I've had the phone back for about a month, and today I turn on the phone and guess what: NO BACKLIGHT! When it finally does boot up (without the backlight) it gives me the MicroP version mismatch error AGAIN.
What a piece of junk. In less than one year this phone has died twice on me. I still have old sony and nokia phones from 6 or 7 years ago that work 100%, yet my HTC Diamond has died twice in less than a year?
I'll never buy another HTC phone. </rant>
That sucks that you of all people ended up getting the 1/100000 lemons out of the factory. I've gone through a few HTC's and have NEVER had a problem with them, as I'm sure not many have.
I'd give it another chance if it was me, god knows I love WinMo.
yeah...well i just called HTC repairs again. they said they will pay to have it shipped back to them for repairs, again.
hopefully it doesn't take too long...
i still think it's funny that the crappy free phones i have from years ago still work great, but this $700 phone keeps breaking on me! grrrrrr
It's because those 'cheap crappy phones' have 1-10 components inside, whereas the Diamond has 10x that (g-sensor,gps,wifi,etc) so there's so much more possibility of something breaking.
I think you've just been very unlucky, I've owned tones of phones and not one of them has ever failed on me.
I would suggest that if your Diamond fails again (touch wood it doesn't ) demand a new one as replacement, as it's probably beyond repair.
Bad luck for you.
I ve had HTC devices for about 4 years and never ever had a problem. I even dropped my HTC Wizard twice and stepped on It. And it still works !!!!
So Go and buy a Iphone
sony and nokia phones ... how many? why changing to htc if your phoneS works 100%? work both phoneS together 100% (sony 30% and nokia 70%).
i was the master of making a phone unflashable and unusable.
1. prophet: soundproblem ... after looking inside and try to repair = death
2. artemis: during flashing pull usb-cable = never starts again
2.1 artemis: after more than 100 try-flashing for reanimation the resetbutton gone to god
3. eten x800: 2 days old in germany, no roms, try something like x500 udlr = unflashable since today but function o.k.
4. diamond: 1 day - 1 hour - first think was flashing. it flyes with me to Turkey, drinks water, fly to wall (2 times), flashing and cooking, i think i would marry it.
today its a htc what you never buy, tomorrow its a palm and the day after its an other phone. do what you want and have fun with your new never-want-buy-xyz-phone ....
my oppinion is: i cant understand why you posting here ... ?
xavierdemon said:
I think you've just been very unlucky, I've owned tones of phones and not one of them has ever failed on me.
I would suggest that if your Diamond fails again (touch wood it doesn't ) demand a new one as replacement, as it's probably beyond repair.
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I agree with this comment! After two attemps at resolving the same issue, any manufacturer should replace the handset completely.
Best of Luck
i must say
only had HTC phones since 2002
not once has one broke down on me....
i have dropped a few....but thats me....not the phone
HTC the only one !
I´m a big fan of HTC. Now i have a Diamond. Earlier: qtek, nokia, motorola, soyericson and more....
From heavy models on 2 kilos in 30 years!
I think i never have another brand then HTC anymore, This is the best phones.....
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sony and nokia phones ... how many? why changing to htc if your phoneS works 100%? work both phoneS together 100% (sony 30% and nokia 70%).
i was the master of making a phone unflashable and unusable.
1. prophet: soundproblem ... after looking inside and try to repair = death
2. artemis: during flashing pull usb-cable = never starts again
2.1 artemis: after more than 100 try-flashing for reanimation the resetbutton gone to god
3. eten x800: 2 days old in germany, no roms, try something like x500 udlr = unflashable since today but function o.k.
4. diamond: 1 day - 1 hour - first think was flashing. it flyes with me to Turkey, drinks water, fly to wall (2 times), flashing and cooking, i think i would marry it.
today its a htc what you never buy, tomorrow its a palm and the day after its an other phone. do what you want and have fun with your new never-want-buy-xyz-phone ....
my oppinion is: i cant understand why you posting here ... ?
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Man.... Stay away from anything that looks like a mobile phone !!!
yeaa bro.....u were just unlucky......
i owned almost 5 HTC phones in these 4 years back.......and never had to face such kind of situation....
infact i love HTC for its performance and value for money price...
it is always a best phone to have....no matter wht model is...
@ asrdias
never, sir ...
i forgot the points
2.2 artemis: bought a broken artemis on ebay for 50€ and make from two damaged orbits one functionally orbit.
2.3 artemis: using a german cooked rom from htc-developers;
2.4 artemis: 100% no problems !!!
3.1 send x800 earpiece for spend somebody and used for me an earpiece from an old handy. 100% no problems !!!
i hope, in future i can write
4.1 diamond: tv-out (what ever, negative or postive message)
if you are angry about my first post, please excuise me, i am 36 years old and have the last time english 20 years ago. somethings comes/reads harder than i really meaning ...
okokur
I am having the exact same problem as the OP (microP error). Can anyone plz point me to a solution..
Is this a hardware or software problem ?
Can i get rid of it by flashing ?
archeopetrix said:
I am having the exact same problem as the OP (microP error). Can anyone plz point me to a solution..
Is this a hardware or software problem ?
Can i get rid of it by flashing ?
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im interested in that too, my phone does the exact same, and a friends.
is there any "home solution"
My Diamond broke twice during the first 2 months (overheated and wi-fi became dysfunctional). A friend's Diamond overheated so much whilst navigating that it broke too.
I've had mine for almost a year now but my next one will definitely be an IPhone. My Diamond has been immature and unstable from the beginning, requiring third-party software and registry patches for basic functionality like setting touchscreen sensitivity and the integration of the address book into the phone user interface is just moronic. Scrolling is plain awkward in TF3D, nothing like the smooth control you have on the Iphone.
My first HTC was a Qtec S200 and it was better in every respect except that it lacked GPS. More robust, better battery life, better GSM sensitivity, better wifi range, better touchscreen sensitivity. Solid as a brick.
Hi there,
Well I have had my wizard for a while now and the screen has managed to aqiure some scratches over the years and I found out that on ebay you can get a new screen for like £8 with tools and instructions, so this got me thinking, as I really like this phone even though it is old and outdated it still manages to keep up in some areas and thanks to you guys it keeps getting new software and os's so I thought well instead of spending £400 on a new phone why not spend like £50 on a new screen and then possibly fix the biggest problem i have with this phone, the RAM.... its really not enough and i was wondering if it was possible to get a new upgraded RAM chip and just get someone experienced in soldering and stuff to take out the old one and put in a new one. Now I know this really sounds far fetched and even if it is possible it may end up way to expensive, and alot easier to get a new phone but if anyone has any ideas if it is possible id love to know.
PS sorry if this is a seriously dumb question but I like my massive outdated smart phone I just wish it had more ram.
Thanks
Well to all those interested, i have found out that it is possible to get it to 128 MB but it will cost around £70 and i can get a secondhand HTC TYTN II for £100 so I think ill go for that instead.
That's cool
Is it available freely or did you have to do a lot of digging?
And any ideas how to install the new memory?
Well from what i found out in another thread on this site is that a company called retronix will take your phone in and change the ram chips for you. Here is the thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359590
I have sent them an email asking about it but have not recieved a reply.
I hope this will be helpfull for you, I have decided against it as you can buy a second hand tytn II for almost the same price and also as I will start uni in september I will be getting a contract that comes with the Touch Pro 2 cant wait it looks like an awsome phone.
I need some help please, I have cracked the digitizer on my diamond (O2 ignito), it is still working for now but I'm not sure what to do next.
I could replace it with a new lcd+digitizer ready assembled in a couple of hours for about £38, I have replaced many phone screens before, just never a touch screen, it can't be that hard.
I have insurance for the phone, I could claim on this but this presents a number of other problems. O2 don't list the Ignito any more, if they send me a replacement handset (if they don't just fix it and send it back) what would they send me, the XDA guide (Iolite?) or Zest? neither of these look that as good as my diamond. Also I'd be without a phone for however long this takes. Also I'd probably have to put the phone back to stock (stock ROM and radio and remove hard-SPL) The cost is slightly less about £25 for the excess.
I've got just over 4 months left before an upgrade as well.
What do you think is the best option?
Thanks
i had same problem and was thinking of fixing myself for the cost of a new digitizer on ebay which is £10. For repairs o2 are always out of stock of the ignito it seems i was waiting 3-4weeks for replacement, in end i had to settle with a zest as i needed a phone. i would not recommend the zest at all as mine stopped working after a week and there is not much if not any support for it on here, they would not let me have a xda guide so you would be lucky if you did.
if you claimed off your insurance then they should have new stock of ignito's think a claim cost is £25
after sending my zest back after the week i managed to get my ignito back gd times.
anyway if your lucky they should fix and send your phone back after a few days depending on stock. and the postal strikes hope that helped
Thanks for that.
I think I will claim on the insurance as it sounds like quite a hassle changing the screen myself
It seems they don't carry stock of the diamond any more. They have offered me a xda guide (Iolite/touch cruise2) or some blackberry's (definate no for me).
Has anybody any experience of what the Iolite is like compared to the diamond?
The thing that sticks out the most is the lower resolution QVGA screen.
Thanks
I'm getting a touch pro now, so goodye to the diamond forum, hello raphael forum.
Glad to see Gen Y ROM for raphael
Its served me well for the past year but now i fear it has gone kaput..
2 days ago i noticed my homescreen had "no service" listed.
strange as i normally receive a 3g signal fine in my area with no loss..
So i figured take the sim out,
give it a clean and pop it back in
That came the same thing,
"no service"
So i took that sim out and tried my others [o2/tmobile and lebara]
Same thing, wouldn't get a signal..
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So afraid to say this thing may end up on ebay or in the free ads as a faulty/repair handset as im lost with what to do.. >__<
Any advice guys?
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Yes the phone was unlocked,
must've been through atleast 14 different roms over time but that shouldnt effect this surely.. o__O
Have you tried a hard reset or reflash?
If your phone still dead..when there's a dead body...commonly there's always an autopsy . It can be hardware (antena), maybe something is loose in there.
Try hard-reset if not working flash stock and see if disabling 3G helps... Check no problems carrier side.
As Mr Clown said genrally a way to fix you just have to try every scenario and if not then might be hardware @ which point you can decide if worth the time/outlay?
Thanks guys for the info,
@MrClown I have tried a had reset to only end up in the same situation,
I will attempt a stock rom flash tonight to see if that helps
@Stylez Again i will try a stock flash and see if it helps,
Found a good one on the wiki so that should help
My guess is hardware related as the phone had been dropped a few times in the house albeit over many months not repeatedly,
I'll report back later guys
so thanks for the advice
hey dude! all is not lost! this is a common problem with the kaiser due to the sliding mechanism, i.e. "moving parts". over time, the wear and tear often causes the "main flex cable" to become loose/faulty. i had the same problem at the beginning of may 2010...had it fixed in 1 week and it worked fine. then i got an HD2 in june 2010 but the kaiser still works just fine!
i had made up my mind that the kaiser needed to be replaced the day it went bad. BUT i did not give up hope on it and decided to have it repaired because it is worth more in the second hand market with working phone functionality. did a simple cost-benefit analysis and figured i'd have it repaired AND get an HD2.
wouldn't you know it, i ended up GIVING the kaiser to my brother...had i sold it to a potential buyer, i'm certain it would be worth more if the phone parts work.
...and just to summarize! HD2 is GREAT! but i really miss the hardware keyboard of the kaiser and the super duper redundancy the kaiser had in terms of buttons...D-PAD+jog wheel+arrow keys on hardware keyboard, THREE OK buttons...count them! TWO start menu buttons. oh and the HD2 has a soft reset button in a REEAAAAAALLLLLLYYYYY difficult to access area behind the battery cover, unlike the kaiser's super friendly poke-the-stylus-in-the-hole approach. BUT i highly recommend the HD2 if you still fancy windows mobile...fast, HHUUUUUUGGGEEEE screen, and it seems android just might happen soon on the HD2.
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hey dude! all is not lost! this is a common problem with the kaiser due to the sliding mechanism, i.e. "moving parts". over time, the wear and tear often causes the "main flex cable" to become loose/faulty. i had the same problem at the beginning of may 2010...had it fixed in 1 week and it worked fine. then i got an HD2 in june 2010 but the kaiser still works just fine!
i had made up my mind that the kaiser needed to be replaced the day it went bad. BUT i did not give up hope on it and decided to have it repaired because it is worth more in the second hand market with working phone functionality. did a simple cost-benefit analysis and figured i'd have it repaired AND get an HD2.
wouldn't you know it, i ended up GIVING the kaiser to my brother...had i sold it to a potential buyer, i'm certain it would be worth more if the phone parts work.
...and just to summarize! HD2 is GREAT! but i really miss the hardware keyboard of the kaiser and the super duper redundancy the kaiser had in terms of buttons...D-PAD+jog wheel+arrow keys on hardware keyboard, THREE OK buttons...count them! TWO start menu buttons. oh and the HD2 has a soft reset button in a REEAAAAAALLLLLLYYYYY difficult to access area behind the battery cover, unlike the kaiser's super friendly poke-the-stylus-in-the-hole approach. BUT i highly recommend the HD2 if you still fancy windows mobile...fast, HHUUUUUUGGGEEEE screen, and it seems android just might happen soon on the HD2.
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Well if you'll care to enlighten me on where i could get this repair done id be most glad,
Wont be handing it to the people in my local market to fiddle with as i dont trust them at all
As in regards to the previous two guys a stock rom didnt help at all it still refuses to get a signal,
so its definatly something to do with this "flex cable"
But in regards to the HD i wont be getting one,
Most likely i'll be getting another xda exec [htc universal] for my social needs,
I have a tendancy of using dated hardware and pushing their limits
sure dude! i'm just going to post links here of THREE other threads about this issue (so you can verify with some more testing if the flex cable is really the actual issue), in which i have contributed my experience. you can read my posts there as well as all the other very helpful posts of other members.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=515264
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=692530
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=620069
summary: first try some of the debugging techniques mentioned in the above threads and look for signs that the flex cable is indeed faulty. if so, you have 2 options:
1. get a do-it-yourself kit (available on many websites and also on ebay) and errrr do it yourself!
2. have someone reliable and experienced with such repairs carry out the repair.
i had to go for option 2. and i had to rely on the parts that the service repair guy had to offer (he cannibalized the flex cable from a tilt so the front camera of my tytn2 is no longer detected!).
i totally understand the need to milk out every last drop from these expensive devices. i truly respect the tytn2 even though it is an old device. that little bugger still has so much potential. hope this helps!
Ahhh much thanks for the information man,
You have no idea how appreciative i am
Its definatly a hardware issue so its gonna have to be a replacement fixup for myself,
Looking into this listing on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-TyTN-II-P4550-Kaiser-Flex-Sim-Card-Slot-Repair-Part-/290442707411?cmd=ViewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item439fbc01d3
Essentially from hong kong as usual but that looks like it would do the job,
The only problem now is that i have ZERO experience with mobile based mainboards and hardware changing,
Give me a pc or mac anyday and ill be done in seconds but im afraid im blank for mobile operations,
Would any UK members be able to give advice as to somewhere i could get this fitted?
Only option i can think of is at the carphone warehouse..
as in my first post i dont really wish to give this to the market people for a botched job
And much thanks to ASCIIker for all the helpful information,
cos id really dread getting rid of my TyTN II >_<