New rom on 8125: how do we replace extrom? - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading

Howdy - is it correct that as of now the ext rom on the new imate release cannot be unlocked and edited/replaced/deleted? If so, do we need to wait until lockwiz and/or awizard is updated?
Thx!

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How to upgrade/change/replace Extended rom

I updated my T-Mobile MDA Vario from OS 1.6.2.2 to Qtek ENG 1.6.7.1 and the os is running perfectly.
The only thing im stuck at is the following: The extended rom customalizations from T-mobile NL **** up a lot of functions, like the today screen, error on boot.
I would like to use the Qtek ENG 1.6.7 Extended rom2 now but I cant seem to find how to change/replace/upgrade the Extended rom.
How is this done?
Unfortuneately any ROMs after 1.6.x.x have the extended ROM protected. If you really want to go down this route you would first need to use aWizard to backup your latest Qtek 1.6.7.1 ROM to a nba file. Then you would need to load back the T-mobile full ROM so that you could use aWizard again to backup the Extended ROM only.
You would then need to flash a pre 1.6.x.x Full ROM to allow you to write/delete the extended ROM contents.
Finally, you could copy the t-mobile files to the extended ROM and then reload the 1.6.7.1 aWizard backup.y
A word of caution though as I F**ked up my T-mobile wizard using aWizard to re-load my OS ROM, and as a result I have had to return the PDA for repair (hopefully under warranty??).
Apparantly there will be a new T-mobile ROM update in march - hopefully with the Bluetooth update we all seem to want!!
I have T-Mobile OS rom 1.6.2.2 whitch also haves the extended rom lock. I do have a backup of my t-mobile extended rom.
So I need to downgrade my os to a version older than 1.6.x.x and change the extended rom. Then I need to put my 1.6.7 version back?
Yes that's correct but first you would need to backup the 1.6.7.1 ROM only using aWizard before you downgrade to a pre 1.6.x.x Full ROM. This will make the extended ROM writable again then you can re-load the saved 1.6.7.1 nba file using aWizard - but note the warning!!

SOLUTION FOUND -CID/sim UNLOCKING FOR WIZARD WITH AKU2 ROMS.

warnning; does not work with g4 wizards!!!!!
this steps are to cid unlock and also to unlock sim in the folowing devices; qtek 9100, i-mate k-jam, mda vario, orange spv m3000, o2 xda mini s, dopod 838, Cingular 8125
first; you must make a full backup of you wizard before doing this , I personally use [wizBackup.exe] posted below for my backups and restores. This is not mandatory but could save an enormous amount of trouble.
I as most people with a wizard with the aku2 rom found out that it cannot be cid unlock with lokiwiz tool, you will get the following;{error:itwritedisk-an internal error occurred}.
. that is till now.
downgrade rom here http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7696581/htc%20wizard/CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
note- this steps is for unlocking the cid of the wizard with aku2 rom.
how to cid. unlock all wizard variants ( that have the latest rom build )
first download custom__ruu_wizard_1050412_wwe_101_11210_wwe. rom from the ftp site from the above link, unpack it and just click the romupdateutility_wizard_noid.exe to start downgrading. Simply follow the prompts.
after the rom are loaded go thru the initial setup as you would with any rom.
now download the (lokiwiz02b) from here;
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7696581/htc wizard/CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Make sure you unzip lokiwiz to the root o the c: drive.
please copy the whole lokiwiz folder to the root of the drive,not the contentents of the folder!!!!!
and follow the instructions .do not forget to copy the cab file(enable rapi) to your device and run it before running lokiwiz.
Now run lockiwiz and unlock your machine, your machine will reboot itself. if yoy see an eroot while unlocking that says;
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CopyFileToTFFS(cidunlocked.bin:0, 0, 00010000)
ERROR: ITWriteDisk - An internal error occurred.
this means that you device not been unloked......try again............
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That’s it your wizard is unlocked. Make sure yew keep the [lock_backup.bin] in a safe place you may need it for guaranty purposes.
Now flash the latest aku2 rom from your provider.- [very important,to avoid future problems wit rom updates]
then u can flash any rom you want.
question: if i cid unlock and sim unlock my phone (after installing custom 1.5 wwe rom) and then i install latest aku2 i-mate italian rom, will the sim unlock (and cid one too) be preserved?
Answer: i can confirm that that upgrading to the latest aku2 rom the wizard remains cid unlocked.
Special thanks to the author of the above cooked rom [button] also to machinagod for the lokiwiz tool and joninla for finding the downgrade rom, molski for is input and everyone that contributed to the cause.
do not try to downgrade using an older wizard rom other than the one posted above it will not work
also this {how to} is for the htc wizard only it may work with other devices but i don’t know, so if you turn you device into a brick do not blame me. use it at your own risk
if you device is from a operator like: 02, orange etc... You will void your guaranty unlocking cid, but don’t despair, if you keep the [lock_backup.bin] file that the lockiz tool generated you can restore cid to factory default.
this proccess only needs to be done once in the wizards lifetime.
Enjoy;
Jose faria.
donate if you like my work
Faria, can you tell me if this process will do it for the HTC Prophets with rom 2.x ???
I've got an imate JAMin with aku2 from factory. Just downloaded older Imate Rom... will try the process when i get home
8) wish me luck
maybe if you find an older rom for you device i only have a wizard.take a look at the lokiwiz tread i belive tha someone mentioned the HTC Prophets.
jamichy said:
I've got an imate JAMin with aku2 from factory. Just downloaded older Imate Rom... will try the process when i get home
8) wish me luck
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Bet I will!!
For the record, your Jamin's rom is the same that was available to download some weeks ago with the Aku2??
jamichy said:
I've got an imate JAMin with aku2 from factory. Just downloaded older Imate Rom... will try the process when i get home
8) wish me luck
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let me know how you get on.
onesolo said:
Faria, can you tell me if this process will do it for the HTC Prophets with rom 2.x ???
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it may be possible,if you have an old custom rom for your device ,found this;
On the one hand, HTC Prophet is a complete copy (both software and hardware are meant) of HTC Wizard. On the other hand, it's equal to HTC Magician in appearance. That is why today review will be quite short, we will only discuss external elements and a new camera, all other aspects were highlighted in the review of HTC Wizard.
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-prophet-en.shtml
Hi Faria, thank you for your HowTo!
Now i know the wizard remains CID unlocked after the upgrade and that's good. I only hope that it stays SIM unlocked too.
Bye
Sadly, cant move back to older rom... keep getting error message saying the nk.nbf file is not valid/older than your current file.
I guess we just have to wait for an updated version of Lockiwiz
sh*t forgot to post the address to the downgrade rom.here it ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
sorry guys
jamichy said:
Sadly, cant move back to older rom... keep getting error message saying the nk.nbf file is not valid/older than your current file.
I guess we just have to wait for an updated version of Lockiwiz
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yes u can, use this rom to downgrade
ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
faria said:
jamichy said:
Sadly, cant move back to older rom... keep getting error message saying the nk.nbf file is not valid/older than your current file.
I guess we just have to wait for an updated version of Lockiwiz
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yes u can, use this rom to downgrade
ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
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Hello, could you please tell me what is changed in the custom ROM???
I am willing to do the same thing for the prophet.
Thanks
nothing except i did not post the link to the rom by mistake,did you use an old i-mate rom to downgrade? do not it will not work, use the one in the above link.thats the only one that it will work that a know for sure.
faria said:
nothing except i did not post the link to the rom by mistake,did you use an old i-mate rom to downgrade? do not it will not work, use the one in the above link.thats the only one that it will work that a know for sure.
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You mean to use the wizard rom on the prophet?
Won't that overwrite the bootloader with the one for the wizard???
andrew_sh said:
faria said:
nothing except i did not post the link to the rom by mistake,did you use an old i-mate rom to downgrade? do not it will not work, use the one in the above link.thats the only one that it will work that a know for sure.
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You mean to use the wizard rom on the prophet?
Won't that overwrite the bootloader with the one for the wizard???
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haaa you have the prophet
dont do that it may turn the prophet into a brick the only way is to find an old custom rom for your device. take a look at the ftp site it may have one there.
sorry
I told you Faria that it can be done
Great that it worked out okay, I can imagine how happy you are feeling right now
Nice how-to by the way.
mm..i am currently using T-mobile MDA Vario with the original rom
is that mean i don't have to apply it to unlock the cid?
i just use the lokiwiz 2b to unlock the CID, after it, even i upgrade to the newest rom e.g. the new O2 rom, my CID still remain unlock?
siupiu said:
mm..i am currently using T-mobile MDA Vario with the original rom
is that mean i don't have to apply it to unlock the cid?
i just use the lokiwiz 2b to unlock the CID, after it, even i upgrade to the newest rom e.g. the new O2 rom, my CID still remain unlock?
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THATS IT.
siupiu said:
mm..i am currently using T-mobile MDA Vario with the original rom
is that mean i don't have to apply it to unlock the cid?
i just use the lokiwiz 2b to unlock the CID, after it, even i upgrade to the newest rom e.g. the new O2 rom, my CID still remain unlock?
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THATS IT.
good, really thx~~^_^

HEEEEEEELPP !!! ROM DOWNGRADE ON XDA MINI S

Hello everybody !!
I just spent about 28 hours reading the threads in order to change my GERMAN O2 XDA MINI S (Wizard) ROM. Into an english one.
For that matter I know I need to unlock my CID, but since i have the latest ROM installed, IPL 2.21.001 and SPL 2.21.001 Lockwiz won't work !!!!
so I tried to Downgrade my Rom in order to make the Lockwiz work, but I am not able to find a suiting German Rom anywhere on the Net.
So I was wondering if nebody would be kind enough to tell me where to find and older German ROM or how I can avoid DOWNGRADING and simply unlock my CID
best regards ... Bayardo
I3aYardo said:
Hello everybody !!
I just spent about 28 hours reading the threads in order to change my GERMAN O2 XDA MINI S (Wizard) ROM. Into an english one.
For that matter I know I need to unlock my CID, but since i have the latest ROM installed, IPL 2.21.001 and SPL 2.21.001 Lockwiz won't work !!!!
so I tried to Downgrade my Rom in order to make the Lockwiz work, but I am not able to find a suiting German Rom anywhere on the Net.
So I was wondering if nebody would be kind enough to tell me where to find and older German ROM or how I can avoid DOWNGRADING and simply unlock my CID
best regards ... Bayardo
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Since you have a G4 boot chip (the tailing .001 in IPL and SPL tells that) you CANNOT downgrade your ROM to 1.x version.
DO NOT TRY INSTALLING A 1.X ROM: YOU'LL BRICK YOUR PPC!!! DO NOT FOLLOW FARIA's PROCEDURE TO CID UNLOCK 2.X PHONES: IT WON'T WORK IN YOUR CASE ('cos you've got a G4 boot chip).
This means that you will NOT be able to CID/SIM unlock your phone with lokiwiz 0.2b (however you can still use lokiwiz 0.3a to SIM unlock it, but no CID unlock).
But don't despair, you CAN still change your phone language and install whatever 2.x rom you like. The procedure to follow, however, is a bit different: you cannot simply download a rom you like and install it, you'll need to hack it a little first, but the results will be the same!
Basically, all you have to do is get the ROM you like (only 2.xx ROM!!!) and remove from it the IPL/SPL part. Then, you have to flash this 'hacked' rom using a slightly modified ROM Upgrade Utility (i can provide it to you if you want). With this method you're not going to replace the IPL/SPL (bootloader) of your phone so you don't need to CID unlock it (which, at the time i'm writing, is impossible).
To remove IPL/SPL from your ROM you have to extract the file nk.nbf from the ROM and get its content with typho5 tool (search this forum to have more info). Then you have to reassemble a new nk.nbf using nb2nbf. The new nk.nbf, of course, must NOT contain the IPL/SPL parts.
If you prefer, you can tell me what ROM are you interested in and i'll do the dirty work for you. Just let me know.
Bye
Basically, all you have to do is get the ROM you like (only 2.xx ROM!!!) and remove from it the IPL/SPL part. Then, you have to flash this 'hacked' rom using a slightly modified ROM Upgrade Utility (i can provide it to you if you want). With this method you're not going to replace the IPL/SPL (bootloader) of your phone so you don't need to CID unlock it (which, at the time i'm writing, is impossible).
To remove IPL/SPL from your ROM you have to extract the file nk.nbf from the ROM and get its content with typho5 tool (search this forum to have more info). Then you have to reassemble a new nk.nbf using nb2nbf. The new nk.nbf, of course, must NOT contain the IPL/SPL parts.
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I would be very thankful if you could post a link or send me the ROM upgrade Utility needed
best regards
Bayardo
risidoro said:
I3aYardo said:
Hello everybody !!
I just spent about 28 hours reading the threads in order to change my GERMAN O2 XDA MINI S (Wizard) ROM. Into an english one.
For that matter I know I need to unlock my CID, but since i have the latest ROM installed, IPL 2.21.001 and SPL 2.21.001 Lockwiz won't work !!!!
so I tried to Downgrade my Rom in order to make the Lockwiz work, but I am not able to find a suiting German Rom anywhere on the Net.
So I was wondering if nebody would be kind enough to tell me where to find and older German ROM or how I can avoid DOWNGRADING and simply unlock my CID
best regards ... Bayardo
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Since you have a G4 boot chip (the tailing .001 in IPL and SPL tells that) you CANNOT downgrade your ROM to 1.x version.
DO NOT TRY INSTALLING A 1.X ROM: YOU'LL BRICK YOUR PPC!!! DO NOT FOLLOW FARIA's PROCEDURE TO CID UNLOCK 2.X PHONES: IT WON'T WORK IN YOUR CASE ('cos you've got a G4 boot chip).
This means that you will NOT be able to CID/SIM unlock your phone with lokiwiz 0.2b (however you can still use lokiwiz 0.3a to SIM unlock it, but no CID unlock).
But don't despair, you CAN still change your phone language and install whatever 2.x rom you like. The procedure to follow, however, is a bit different: you cannot simply download a rom you like and install it, you'll need to hack it a little first, but the results will be the same!
Basically, all you have to do is get the ROM you like (only 2.xx ROM!!!) and remove from it the IPL/SPL part. Then, you have to flash this 'hacked' rom using a slightly modified ROM Upgrade Utility (i can provide it to you if you want). With this method you're not going to replace the IPL/SPL (bootloader) of your phone so you don't need to CID unlock it (which, at the time i'm writing, is impossible).
To remove IPL/SPL from your ROM you have to extract the file nk.nbf from the ROM and get its content with typho5 tool (search this forum to have more info). Then you have to reassemble a new nk.nbf using nb2nbf. The new nk.nbf, of course, must NOT contain the IPL/SPL parts.
If you prefer, you can tell me what ROM are you interested in and i'll do the dirty work for you. Just let me know.
Bye
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Hi risidoro,
I am trying upgrade my O2 German Wizrad G4 version into WWE, I followed your instruction & has used nb2nbf to compile a 2.xx rom without IPL & SPL. When I used the update utility to falsh the Wizard, the utility said something like: Error, this update utility is not for your device. etc.
I think I need to used your modified update utility , can you send it to me?
Also my other question is, when I use nb2nbf , what should I put in the model id for my German Wizard?
You advice can help me & many others to solve our headache in upgrading a G4 Rom! Cheers!
phone_one said:
Hi risidoro,
I am trying upgrade my O2 German Wizrad G4 version into WWE, I followed your instruction & has used nb2nbf to compile a 2.xx rom without IPL & SPL. When I used the update utility to falsh the Wizard, the utility said something like: Error, this update utility is not for your device. etc.
I think I need to used your modified update utility , can you send it to me?
Also my other question is, when I use nb2nbf , what should I put in the model id for my German Wizard?
You advice can help me & many others to solve our headache in upgrading a G4 Rom! Cheers!
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The modified RUU (ROM Update Utility) is attached.
For ModelID you can use both WIZARD or Prodigy (i used the former).
risidoro said:
Since you have a G4 boot chip (the tailing .001 in IPL and SPL tells that) you CANNOT downgrade your ROM to 1.x version.
DO NOT TRY INSTALLING A 1.X ROM: YOU'LL BRICK YOUR PPC!!! DO NOT FOLLOW FARIA's PROCEDURE TO CID UNLOCK 2.X PHONES: IT WON'T WORK IN YOUR CASE ('cos you've got a G4 boot chip).
This means that you will NOT be able to CID/SIM unlock your phone with lokiwiz 0.2b (however you can still use lokiwiz 0.3a to SIM unlock it, but no CID unlock).
But don't despair, you CAN still change your phone language and install whatever 2.x rom you like. The procedure to follow, however, is a bit different: you cannot simply download a rom you like and install it, you'll need to hack it a little first, but the results will be the same!
Basically, all you have to do is get the ROM you like (only 2.xx ROM!!!) and remove from it the IPL/SPL part. Then, you have to flash this 'hacked' rom using a slightly modified ROM Upgrade Utility (i can provide it to you if you want). With this method you're not going to replace the IPL/SPL (bootloader) of your phone so you don't need to CID unlock it (which, at the time i'm writing, is impossible).
To remove IPL/SPL from your ROM you have to extract the file nk.nbf from the ROM and get its content with typho5 tool (search this forum to have more info). Then you have to reassemble a new nk.nbf using nb2nbf. The new nk.nbf, of course, must NOT contain the IPL/SPL parts.
If you prefer, you can tell me what ROM are you interested in and i'll do the dirty work for you. Just let me know.
Bye
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sorry to hijack your thread,
just wanted to ask a short question.
if my info is as below:
US T-mobile MDA Vario
IPL 1.03
SPL 1.06
GSM 01.12.10
OS 1.3.13.5
ROM version: 1.3.13.5 ENU
ROM date: 9/29/05
Radio version: 01.12.10
Protocol version: 4.0.13.23
ExtROM: 1.3.13.116
OS 5.1.70(build 14406.1.1.1)
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does this mean that its on a G3 chip and that i can use lokiwiz03a to CID unlock it and upload any 2.x ROM as i please? and downgrade the ROMs too?
@Bola: you have a 1.x ROM so you can CID unlock your phone with Lokiwiz0.2b (NOT 0.3a). Then you'll be able to install whichever ROM you like.
Bye
I've just published a tutorial that can help those with a G4 or G3 (>= 2.21) CID-Locked device to install whichever 2.x ROM they like.
The tutorial is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56088
Bye
risidoro said:
@Bola: you have a 1.x ROM so you can CID unlock your phone with Lokiwiz0.2b (NOT 0.3a). Then you'll be able to install whichever ROM you like.
Bye
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thanks risidoro.
i'll give it a go later.
there wont be any issue downgrading the ROM later would there?
eg if i were to install:
RUU_Wizard_2211301_22113102_021911_DOP_ASIA_WWE_Ship.exe
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and later back to
RUU_Prodigy_1060701_101_11310_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe ?
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oh, the bootloader (IPL/SPL) doesnt get upgraded either when i upgrade, would it?
oh thank for the help risidoro.
i saw your post after i uploaded mine.
read through your tutorial and i figured that both IPL / SPL will get updated
people like you makes this site great
thanks once again.

[How-To] Install any 2.x ROM in a CID-Locked G3 or G4 Wizard

Hi,
a few days ago i wrote on this forum that i had been able to install an italian ROM on a G4, CID-Locked Wizard. Since then, i've received several mails and PM from users asking me how i did. Instead of replying each one, i though it was better to write a tutorial and post it here for everyone to read/comment/correct it.
Here it is. Together with the tools you'll need to perform the update.
PS: in this tutorial i'm not explaining how to CID-UNlock a G4 or G3 (>= 2.21) phone. There is not yet a way to CID unlock these phones. I'm just describing how to circumvent the CID-lock problem by installing a ROM deprived of the IPL and SPL parts.
DISCLAIMER: THE PROCEDURE I’M GOING TO EXPLAIN DEALS WITH ROM ‘COOKING’ AND THUS IT MAY CAUSE SEVERE DATA LOSS OR EVEN IRREMEDIABLY DAMAGE YOUR DEVICE!
THE AUTHOR, NOR EVERY OTHER PERSON INVOLVED (E.G. THE ROM TOOLS DEVELOPERS), SHALL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY MALFUNCTIONS OR DAMAGES THIS PROCEDURE MAY CAUSE.
By following this tutorial, you're removing both the bootloaders (IPL and SPL) from a rom of your choice. This means that, if you don't make errors while 'cooking' the rom, you cannot completely destroy (brick) your phone. Sure, you could end up with a non-booting rom but, as long as you can get to the three colors screen (the bootloader screen) you'll always be able to install a different (or your previous) working rom.
On the other hand, messing with IPL and SPL (i.e. installing a rom containing IPL and SPL in a CID locked device) is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS and MUST be avoided in most cases!!!
Installing a 2.xx rom without messing with your phone's IPL and SPL is exactly what this tutorial tries to explain.
NEVER INSTALL ROMS OR FOLLOW TUTORIALS IF YOU'RE NOT SURE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING!!!
ALWAYS ASK BEFORE PROCEEDING! A SIMPLE QUESTION MAY SAVE YOUR PHONE FROM DEATH!
Worked perfect!
Thank you very much for the clear explanation!!! 8)
HI,
Have I to introduce on nb2nbf SW the ITA language without CID??
squarna said:
HI,
Have I to introduce on nb2nbf SW the ITA language without CID??
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Leave the CID field empty and specify the language you're installing (ITA for italian, WWE for english).
Hi,
I have installed this SW on my MDA T-mobile:
IPL:2.21.0001
SPL:2.21.0001
GSM:2.19.11
OS:2.21.2.6
EXROM:2.21.2.109
What is the best Italian ROM to flash inside?
squarna said:
Hi,
I have installed this SW on my MDA T-mobile:
IPL:2.21.0001
SPL:2.21.0001
GSM:2.19.11
OS:2.21.2.6
EXROM:2.21.2.109
What is the best Italian ROM to flash inside?
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This is quite Off Topic here, anyway you can use K-Jam 2.18 italian ROM (find it here: ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/K-JAM_ITA_2180901_21809104_20710_ship.zip)
German to WWE
Worked perfect, no glitches! Thanks for the help!
So is there any issues with using a mismatched ipl/spl bootloader on my G4 equipped O2 mini S?
I really want to install Mr. Clean's Clean ROM, but i am afraid of bricking it.
I have done ROm upgrades before by CID unlocking my old Qtek9100 G3 (but my foolish friend dropped it into a cup of coffeee and killed it).
I will admit, the Mr. CLean Rom was WAY faster than my OE 2.21 ROm on my O2.
Is there anyway to go back and uninstall? Ie. download rom from O2 website to restore it?
REgards,
ED
minirx7 said:
So is there any issues with using a mismatched ipl/spl bootloader on my G4 equipped O2 mini S?
I really want to install Mr. Clean's Clean ROM, but i am afraid of bricking it.
I have done ROm upgrades before by CID unlocking my old Qtek9100 G3 (but my foolish friend dropped it into a cup of coffeee and killed it).
I will admit, the Mr. CLean Rom was WAY faster than my OE 2.21 ROm on my O2.
Is there anyway to go back and uninstall? Ie. download rom from O2 website to restore it?
REgards,
ED
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You CAN install MrClean AKU2.3 ROM BUT only if you first modify it following my guide: you cannot touch the IPL/SPL parts!!!
There are two reasons for not installing the original, unmodified MrClean ROM:
1) G4 phones cannot be CID unlocked. This means that you can replace their original IPL/SPL ONLY with a newer version made by the very same operator: e.g. if you have a 2.21 WWE T-mobile ROM then you can ONLY update this rom with a version > 2.21 made by T-mobile!!! You CANNOT use any other language nor any other operator's ROMs (cingular's, qtek's, etc).
2) MrClean ROM, as all the other home made ROMs you'll find in this forum, can be installed ONLY in G3 models because it contains only IPL and SPL version 1.0 (G4 phones need version 2.0)
Basically then, you have only 3 choices:
a) Follow my tutorial and be able to install every 2.x ROM you like (both stock ROMs and home made ones, every language, every operator). The only limitation is that you cannot install 1.x ROMs!
b) Install ONLY ROMs that are the OFFICIAL update to the one you have currently installed (e.g. if you have cingular 2.25 WWE rom then you'll be able to update it only when and if, a new, official, wwe, cingular ROM will be released). You won't be able to install a different language ROM nor a ROM made by a different operator, nor a home made ROM (like MrClean).
c) you can CID unlock your G4 wizard using some online service but: it will cost you money and you won't still be able to install home-made ROM 'cos they contain only IPL/SPL version 1.0 (you'll still need IPL/SPL version 2.0)
That said, i strongly suggest you solution (a)! It's free, it's very simple (it may seem complex but after the first time it'll be straight forward), it's the safest (because you don't replace the boot loader IPL and SPL) and it let you install whichever 2.x ROM you like!
Bye
Thank you risidoro,
Yes, i do realize the G4 IPL/SPL must not be altered to prevent from bricking the device.
I will try the Mr. Clean ROM tonight using your tutorial. I guess my only question is, will there be an issue using a 2.21 G4 IPL SPL on a 2.24ROM?
DOes the bootloader actual change with new ROMS?
risidoro said:
minirx7 said:
So is there any issues with using a mismatched ipl/spl bootloader on my G4 equipped O2 mini S?
I really want to install Mr. Clean's Clean ROM, but i am afraid of bricking it.
I have done ROm upgrades before by CID unlocking my old Qtek9100 G3 (but my foolish friend dropped it into a cup of coffeee and killed it).
I will admit, the Mr. CLean Rom was WAY faster than my OE 2.21 ROm on my O2.
Is there anyway to go back and uninstall? Ie. download rom from O2 website to restore it?
REgards,
ED
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You CAN install MrClean AKU2.3 ROM BUT only if you first modify it following my guide: you cannot touch the IPL/SPL parts!!!
There are two reasons for not installing the original, unmodified MrClean ROM:
1) G4 phones cannot be CID unlocked. This means that you can replace their original IPL/SPL ONLY with a newer version made by the very same operator: e.g. if you have a 2.21 WWE T-mobile ROM then you can ONLY update this rom with a version > 2.21 made by T-mobile!!! You CANNOT use any other language nor any other operator's ROMs (cingular's, qtek's, etc).
2) MrClean ROM, as all the other home made ROMs you'll find in this forum, can be installed ONLY in G3 models because it contains only IPL and SPL version 1.0 (G4 phones need version 2.0)
Basically then, you have only 3 choices:
a) Follow my tutorial and be able to install every 2.x ROM you like (both stock ROMs and home made ones, every language, every operator). The only limitation is that you cannot install 1.x ROMs!
b) Install ONLY ROMs that are the OFFICIAL update to the one you have currently installed (e.g. if you have cingular 2.25 WWE rom then you'll be able to update it only when and if, a new, official, wwe, cingular ROM will be released). You won't be able to install a different language ROM nor a ROM made by a different operator, nor a home made ROM (like MrClean).
c) you can CID unlock your G4 wizard using some online service but: it will cost you money and you won't still be able to install home-made ROM 'cos they contain only IPL/SPL version 1.0 (you'll still need IPL/SPL version 2.0)
That said, i strongly suggest you solution (a)! It's free, it's very simple (it may seem complex but after the first time it'll be straight forward), it's the safest (because you don't replace the boot loader IPL and SPL) and it let you install whichever 2.x ROM you like!
Bye
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minirx7 said:
Thank you risidoro,
Yes, i do realize the G4 IPL/SPL must not be altered to prevent from bricking the device.
I will try the Mr. Clean ROM tonight using your tutorial. I guess my only question is, will there be an issue using a 2.21 G4 IPL SPL on a 2.24ROM?
DOes the bootloader actual change with new ROMS?
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Bootloader and ROM version numbers usually are the same (so ROM 2.24 should have IPL/SPL 2.24) but they can be different. I've used IPL/SPL 2.21.001 with both 2.18 and 2.24 ROMs.
Maybe newer ROMs, greater than 2.24, will require an updated IPL/SPL so you'll be obliged to CID unlock your phone. By then however, i hope there'll be a free CID unlocking tool for G4.
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Thank you risidoro!! I was regretting getting my O2 miniS G4, in place of my broken Qtek 9100 G3.
I will give it a shot tonight. I noticed that the 2.24 ROM was much faster when I used it on my Qtek, over any other ROM.
Regards
risidoro said:
minirx7 said:
Thank you risidoro,
Yes, i do realize the G4 IPL/SPL must not be altered to prevent from bricking the device.
I will try the Mr. Clean ROM tonight using your tutorial. I guess my only question is, will there be an issue using a 2.21 G4 IPL SPL on a 2.24ROM?
DOes the bootloader actual change with new ROMS?
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Bootloader and ROM version numbers usually are the same (so ROM 2.24 should have IPL/SPL 2.24) but they can be different. I've used IPL/SPL 2.21.001 with both 2.18 and 2.24 ROMs.
Maybe newer ROMs, greater than 2.24, will require an updated IPL/SPL so you'll be obliged to CID unlock your phone. By then however, i hope there'll be a free CID unlocking tool for G4.
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THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!
I HAVE SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED MR. CLEAN 2.24A ON MY G4 DEVICE!!!!
THe ROM is so much faster and smoother than the OE 2.21 ROM!!! tahnks again!
risidoro did you SIM unlock your G4 phone ? If yes what tool and version did you use to do that ?
jeegnesh said:
risidoro did you SIM unlock your G4 phone ? If yes what tool and version did you use to do that ?
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My two phones were both factory simunlocked but i heard that some people is successfully using LokiwizMSL 0.3a to sim unlock G4 wizards.
Just follow the author's instruction. The procedure is staightforward.
Find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768&highlight=lokiwiz
Bye
Thanks for the superfast reply, actually waiting for someone to get me this phone, hopefully this week, wil try it out once I get it.
Using Clean ROM, does it just improve startup time, or does it improve performace of the phone in general ?
Do you have to re-install software after ROM update ?
jeegnesh said:
Thanks for the superfast reply, actually waiting for someone to get me this phone, hopefully this week, wil try it out once I get it.
Using Clean ROM, does it just improve startup time, or does it improve performace of the phone in general ?
Do you have to re-install software after ROM update ?
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Upgrading the OS part of a ROM cause your phone to hard reset, so yes, you'll have to reinstall everything. If, on the other hand, you upgrade any other part (GSM, Splash, ExtROM, HTC) but not the OS then you won't loose your data.
MrClean ROM and Summitter's ROM are both very fast. The latter contains cingular's customizations in extROM (they don't slow down the phone, they're mainly registry settings), some ringtones and compact framework 2.0 in ROM. If you're not a cingular user then i suggest you take the OS part from summitter's rom and the extrom from the MrClean. Then join the two parts with nb2nbf and flash to your device.
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Any reason to take Summitter's OS is it faster or something then Mr Clean ?
jeegnesh said:
Any reason to take Summitter's OS is it faster or something then Mr Clean ?
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No. Both summitter and mrclean use the same OS ROM (2.24.10 AKU2.3) hence they have the SAME, IDENTICAL speed.
The difference is that Summitter manually edited the original ROM and added a lot of ringtones, themes and, most important, the .net compact framework 2.0. If you install Summitter OS, then, you'll have the same mrclean basic OS plus a lot of goodies that don't take any space in storage since they're in ROM (compact framework 2.0 alone would take about 5mb of your precious storage if you installed it on mrclean).
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This thread needs to be a sticky!!

Question about faria & Molski ROMs

using typho5 we can see that latest Molski ROM still contain IPL/ SPL but Faria's ROM 3.0 dose not ! just OS, GSM, Splash and Extension
as far as i know the rom that not contain IPL & SPL can be installed in both G4 and G3 wisard ! can also be installed in CID Unlocked wizard
another thing i would understand !! changing the boot (spl/ipl) is dangerouse !so if we use any rom without IPL/SPL it would be better and safe !
so why we need to cid unlock the wizard ? and why change the boot ?
hica said:
using typho5 we can see that latest Molski ROM still contain IPL/ SPL but Faria's ROM 3.0 dose not ! just OS, GSM, Splash and Extension
as far as i know the rom that not contain IPL & SPL can be installed in both G4 and G3 wisard ! can also be installed in CID Unlocked wizard
another thing i would understand !! changing the boot (spl/ipl) is dangerouse !so if we use any rom without IPL/SPL it would be better and safe !
so why we need to cid unlock the wizard ? and why change the boot ?
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Well... the CID really hasn't anything to do with the ROM... CID, also known as vendor lock, is something that the manufacturer put in in order to prevent users from installing roms that aren't released by the manufaturers themselfs.
Second, older wizards come with an older bootloader and, naturally, there has been some improvements in the newer versions. Therefor one usually, when one has an older bootloader, have to install a rom provided by a vendor in order to upgrade it. And thereafter install a customized rom released by someone here on the board, assuming that you have CID unlocked your phone before of course
Hope that clarifies it...

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