Bluetooth Network - PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General

I understand that it is technically posible to establish a link between the phone and a computer with Bluetooth such that you can the access the internet using the computers access.
I have had a few shots at this, and have got the correct profile appearing as an outgoing connection and established - but I cannot for love nor money make the bugger do anything.
I'm using XP pro, I have tried with and without the bridge between the local and bluetooth connection on the machine - still nothing.
When I have the connection established and go to the Wireless Manager there are no entries in the Bluetooth drop down, should there be?
Any ideas anyone?
Tom

If you are just wanting to access the internet using bluetooth then the way I did this was to set up a blutooth active sync conection, you can the access the internet from your alpine.

Sean uk said:
If you are just wanting to access the internet using bluetooth then the way I did this was to set up a blutooth active sync conection, you can the access the internet from your alpine.
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True, lateral thinking, must try it one day!
Of course that would require me to remember to take my cradle to work for the first sync! Set a task in the phone you say, I would if the flamin thing allowed you to set the task alarm at a time of your choice, I'm nearly at work by 8 when it reminds me I've forgotten something again!

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A Few Tilt Questions

First off, thank you to all who post here, I have found a ton of useful information on my new toy
New Tilt, only a few days old (it's been hard reset to remove bloat). I have a few questions that I haven't found answers for on here yet.
1. Establishing a BlueTooth sync connection to my work laptop. I can pair the devices, but my work laptop can only see 3 BT profiles: Dial-up Networking, Network Access Point and FTP. I would ideally like to be able to sync between the two just using a BT connection, but I can't seem to figure out how. My laptop uses a BT 1.2 adapter from D-Link (DBT-120).
2. In the mean time, I've been connecting my Tilt to my laptop with the USB cable. Every time I connect it, it forces down my laptops proxy settings to my active internet connection on my phone. Since the work internet access is restricted, I have all internet access on my phone set to use MediaNet. However, this breaks when the proxy setting is pushed down. How do I stop this from happening?
So far those are my only two issues with the Tilt. Awesome phone otherwise.

Use a computers internet access via bluetooth?

Is this possible? If so how?
I would like the Diamond to use the internet connection of the desktop computer (cheaper) - and they see each other via bluetooth but it seems they both want to be "network access point"
Can you get the diamond to shut up and listen instead of thinking it is supposed to be the boss?
I actually discovered this today
If you connect with activesync via bluetooth, the phone uses the computers internet access...
well mine does... I don't know if this is standard, I just discovered it by accident
Damn, then I have to install activesync...
But thanks for the tip.
Well didn't work here. Must be some fluke on your system perhaps?
Kermode said:
Well didn't work here. Must be some fluke on your system perhaps?
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I've done this quite often, it's no fluke at all. Whenever I connect my phone to ActiveSync (or WMDC as I use Vista) via USB or bluetooth, it is able to use the internet connection from my PC.
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Well didn't work here. Must be some fluke on your system perhaps?
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you need to check active sync or windows mobile center(vista) options to enable data through
hmmm, that's strange ...
I'm testing it right now ... opening Opera, and there is the internet!
And I'm sure Its thrue bluetooth because my wifi router isn't connected
And when I disconnect activesync, no more internet...
Someone else that can check that?
NisseDILLIGAF said:
hmmm, that's strange ...
I'm testing it right now ... opening Opera, and there is the internet!
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No no, you are right - I needed to reboot the PC first apparently - duh
Works fine, thanks Nisse
NisseDILLIGAF said:
hmmm, that's strange ...
I'm testing it right now ... opening Opera, and there is the internet!
And I'm sure Its thrue bluetooth because my wifi router isn't connected
And when I disconnect activesync, no more internet...
Someone else that can check that?
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Yes you can connect to internet through active sync or windows mobile device center by bluetooth, even if you rnt using microsoft bluetooth stack.
xispas2008 said:
Yes you can connect to internet through active sync or windows mobile device center by bluetooth, even if you rnt using microsoft bluetooth stack.
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Though just for knowledge, I'd like to know how to connect through bluetooth as well - any HTC relevant guides about that?
Have you looked into bluetooth PAN?
Some info here.
Or install a http server on the PC and set up a web proxy (PHP or cgi, etc), then browse through that..
I havnt tried either of these but its something to look into..
dabs said:
Have you looked into bluetooth PAN?
Some info here.
Or install a http server on the PC and set up a web proxy (PHP or cgi, etc), then browse through that..
I havnt tried either of these but its something to look into..
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There's really no point in doing that considering ActiveSync/WMDC shares the connection when you connect, all you have to do is pair your phone with your PC then go into ActiveSync on the phone and select Connect via BlueTooth.
Was just throwing it out there for us non-windows users. I keep a dedicated VM for flashing, but avoid using it whenever I can.
poedgirl said:
There's really no point in doing that considering ActiveSync/WMDC shares the connection when you connect, all you have to do is pair your phone with your PC then go into ActiveSync on the phone and select Connect via BlueTooth.
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So you have to have activesync installed as well to use Bluetooth - damn a lot of junk - but thanks for the tip
hey guys i connected my HTC touch diamond to my windows xp SP3 laptop. but for some reason internet is not working. if i try to use internet it says it is unable to connect on my touch. i had checked the option in quickgps that it should update whenever i connect to activesync but that cannot be used as long as there is no internet through activesync.
can anybody help
NisseDILLIGAF said:
I actually discovered this today
If you connect with activesync via bluetooth, the phone uses the computers internet access...
well mine does... I don't know if this is standard, I just discovered it by accident
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Hello
How to connect with activesync via bluetooth to use internet from the PC..I'm really like this..Thks!

Using Diamond with Car-PC via bluetooth?

Hi there,
I got a car-pc since a while and have been using my sony ericsson with it... calls get transferred via bluetooth to the computer, as like phonebook in integrated into the car-pc software... all transmitted via bluetooth...
Now with the diamond, how do i set it up as a phone? winXP doesnt recognize other services than the moden funxtion
you should enable Remote SIM access on you Diamond: Start -settings - connections bluetooth SIM acces and also activate the service for your BT connection (do this in the first tab of the BT settings dialogue after connectig)
already done :-( But the Computer doesn't list other functions than modem for the HTC
Do i need any drivers for XP? Usually not...
Using Diamond & CarPC Via Internet sharing over BT
I have a CarPC in my car, it has a 7" touch screen & it is running WinXP and have built in Bluetooth. So for surfing in the internet , MSN, Skype in my car over the carpc i am using my HTC Diamond with the Internet Sharing icon and connecting it via Bluetooth to the carPC so i get FAST Internet over Bluetooth between my carpc and my HTC Diamond.
It works very good - very stable.
Matter of fact it is "capturing" my 3G Internet and pass it over Bluetooth to the carpc.
Solution works very well.
k, but i am not interested in using it as internet connection, i want to phone via the computers hardware, so the car-pc should act as an headset... besides that, he shoult be able to access the adress book and to begin calls... that for, i neeed 2 comports emulated, but how to create them?
could it be because the device is seen as a PDA, and not as a mobile phone?
I know somewhere here on XDA there is a reg hack for earlier devices to make them appear as a mobile phone to car kits. maybe the same thing will help here. I don't know where it is, can only suggest searching, unless anyone else can point you in the right direction....
I used to have PhoneConnector on my CarPC, with PhocoAdapter on the phone. It worked, but now this software is not supported anymore and unfortunately it does not work with WM6.
Freefone is not compatible either.
My good Blackbaron, I believe we users of CarPCs and Windows Mobile are scr...d!
By the way, sharing the 3G connection workds a treat, by USB, BT, Wifi... I just wish Vodafone would allow other ports than port 80
I still didnt realize what 3G is... ^^ I never owned a ppc before...
Well, on the CarPC the internet speed is as great as a DSL line, here is France I measured it at more than 3.5 MB/s (KS20 is limited to 4 MB/s with HSDPA, who knows why). Coming from the crappy Edge Motorola phone I had before, the browsing is truly amazingly fast!
help
golympio can you tell me step by step how to connect htc diamond via bluetooth for internet?
Try this app called JetWare
gerardo66 said:
golympio can you tell me step by step how to connect htc diamond via bluetooth for internet?
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1) Launch the Internet Sharing application on your phone (all WM6 phones have it)
2) Select your 3G connection, and BT or USB, tap "Connect"
3) USB: have ActiveSync installed on the PC, connect the USB cable, it's done.
4) BT: you have to set up a BT PAN hosted from your phone, add your PC to it, it's done.
5) If your provider uses a proxy, setup Firefox to use it (Tools/Options/Advanced/Network)
6) If your provider has a filter on User Agent, then you need the plug-in "User Agent Switcher", to put the same User Agent string as on your phone.
There you go!
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Try this app called JetWare
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Looks interesting, I'll give it a try when I have some time. Do they have a trial version?
Yes they have, i leeched it... But i don't find the difference between now and before installing it...

Bluetooth PAN and Mac OSX not working

Hi,
I'm trying to use the Bluetooth PAN setting in the Internet Sharing program with a Macbook (Mac OS X 10.5.4). I successfully paired the laptop and Kaiser. I start Internet Sharing on the Kaiser, go to the Bluetooth icon in OSX, click Tilt and click Connect to Network. This doesn't seem to work. Does anyone have suggestions?
I can successfully get it working with Windows XP so I'm guessing it's OSX's fault?
SPL: 3.56 hard
Rom: NotATreoFan's V1 Final (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421852)
Radio: 1.65.24.36
Might anyone have an idea, or maybe the better question is has anyone ever gotten Bluetooth PAN working with OSX?
anonova said:
Might anyone have an idea, or maybe the better question is has anyone ever gotten Bluetooth PAN working with OSX?
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It works for me on a mbpro with 10.5.5. It's been a while since I've set it up, but I don't remember doing anything special to get it working.
Make sure you set your shared internet connection to the correct setting ( Media Net or My ISP )
I have found that tethering using MY ISP works the best and seems to have a tad less latency.
I am running a MB Pro C2D with 10.5.3
My "Hack Pro " is running 10.5.2 and is also tethering with no issues.
P.S.
One more thing. Make sure the phone is set to Visible. Although you can pair it , if its not in Visible mode, it will NOT work
Do you get a connection and it just wont give you an active connection or does your laptop attempt to tether and give a network connection error ?
Here's how I'm trying everything. The device and computer are already paired. The device is visible.
Open Internet Sharing.
Set PC Connection to Bluetooth PAN and Network Connection to MEdia Net.
I tap connect, and the status changes to "Device setup finished. On the PC, connect Bluetooth PAN."
On the Macbook, I click the Bluetooth icon on the menu bar, hover over the device's name, and click Connect to Network.
On the device, the status changes to "Connected."
When doing this in Windows, that's it. I can open up a browser, and the internet is working fine. But on my Macbook, I open up a browser, and I'm not connected to anything. I open up the Network preference pane, and nothing is connected. OSX doesn't see the Bluetooth PAN profile is maybe the problem?
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Here's how I'm trying everything. The device and computer are already paired. The device is visible.
Open Internet Sharing.
Set PC Connection to Bluetooth PAN and Network Connection to MEdia Net.
I tap connect, and the status changes to "Device setup finished. On the PC, connect Bluetooth PAN."
On the Macbook, I click the Bluetooth icon on the menu bar, hover over the device's name, and click Connect to Network.
On the device, the status changes to "Connected."
When doing this in Windows, that's it. I can open up a browser, and the internet is working fine. But on my Macbook, I open up a browser, and I'm not connected to anything. I open up the Network preference pane, and nothing is connected. OSX doesn't see the Bluetooth PAN profile is maybe the problem?
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Ahhhhh When you pair the phone to the mac, make sure you have internet sharing enabled on the phone before you go into pair mode. Otherwise mac osx doesnt see the PAN capability. I think thats what I had to do.
I tried with Internet Sharing pre-connected, but it still didn't work. I did get it working though! In the network connections, Bluetooth does not equal Bluetooth PAN. I went to the little plus at the bottom, and specifically added a Bluetooth PAN interface, and it picked the device up.
Thanks for all of the help!
anonova said:
I tried with Internet Sharing pre-connected, but it still didn't work. I did get it working though! In the network connections, Bluetooth does not equal Bluetooth PAN. I went to the little plus at the bottom, and specifically added a Bluetooth PAN interface, and it picked the device up.
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Unfortunately, I am on HTC Touch with a WM6.5 ROM, and even though I added the Bluetooth PAN interface manually, my Mac is still not picking up the phone, even though it's been paired successfully and Internet Sharing pre-connected.
OK this is for last year but just in case someone else searches for this a solution I found a while back
Added step open "com port 1" on the WM, not sure where I found that, otherwise the mac keeps "dialing" and the phone says "???? no need to dial, 3G not modem"
These steps work for me on SE Xeperia1 with WM 6.5 and Mac 10.5.8.
http://www.hightechdad.com/2007/05/...sharing-from-windows-mobile-6-to-mac-os-1049/
"Now with Windows Mobile 6, Bluetooth PAN (Personal Area Network) is used. So, if you are on Mac OS 10.4.9, you now have the ability to use a Network Port called “Bluetooth PAN.” Here are the high-level steps you use to enable your Bluetooth Internet Sharing:
1. Turn on Bluetooth and BT discovery on both your WM6 device and your Mac
2. Set up a Pairing between the two devices
My steps + Setup Bluetooth from Phone to Mac. Do it form the phone to the mac not the other way around.
+ Opem Comm port one from Phone bluetooth setup.
3. Enable the Bluetooth PAN port under your Mac’s Network Preferences (Network Port Configurations) by clicking the checkbox
4. Ensure that your devices are “talking together”
5. Start “Internet Sharing” on your WM6 device and click “Connect”
6. On your Mac, it is helpful having the “Show Bluetooth status in the menu bar” enabled
7. On your Mac, from the Bluetooth menu, select “Join Network on [WM6 device]“
8. That is it! (You should have internet connectivity on your Mac, provided you have good signal on your WM6 device). You can even verify that you got an IP address from your WM6 device by going to Network control panel and selecting Bluetooth PAN. Mine shows a 192.168.0.XXX number.
I hope that works. This is a good tip to know if you travel a lot and don’t want to pay for the expensive hotel internet services. Just plug power into your phone and your laptop, connect and you have “dialup” speeds for no additional costs!
If you have questions, write a comment below. If this works for you, DIGG it!
Don’t forget, you will drain your battery pretty quickly and use a lot of bandwidth from your cellular provider (especially if your internet service has a cap)."

Access Internet on Kaiser via PC

Ok I have been trying to use my pc connection and access that connection through my bluetooth on my kaiser, most I can get is the other way around. Any suggestions
Not sure that Internet Connection sharing in WinMo supports that...just wondering, why the heck would you want to surf the web on a 2.8" screen when you have a full PC available to you?
You can use the remote desktop facility via wifi. But as previously posted... why?! Bluetooth doesn't support a high enough datarate for it to work properly.
Connection at my location is 3G at best so bluetooth is defininitaly fast enough to accomidate my needs just simple stuff.
metalman0581 said:
Ok I have been trying to use my pc connection and access that connection through my bluetooth on my kaiser, most I can get is the other way around. Any suggestions
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The best way to get the connection on your kaiser throught the pc is when you connect it using the USB and being connected to the active sync on your pc besides there are no settings need to be made for using this way. I'm not sure if you can connect the kaiser to you active sync on the pc through the bluetooth.anyway let me try it and if anything pops up, i'll let you know
Nope, no additional software required. Just go into Start - Programs - Internet Sharing. Hit connect and connect up your USB cable and you're done.
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Max confusion
What a jumble this thread has become . The O/P wanted to access the internet that's already on his PC and channel that through his TyTN II - NOT the other way around. As already mentioned in one post, one way of getting this is via an Activesync (or WMDC if it's Vista or Win 7 on the PC) connection. For greatest speed this would be via the USB cable but it is possible to have an Activesync or WMDC connection via Bluetooth for greater mobility if there's a need to carry the phone up to 10 m from the bluetooth hub. The other (more straight forward) way to do this is just to connect the phone via WiFi directly to the landline/broadband router (assuming there is a WiFi capable router avail).
Internet connection sharing is only for when the phones internet connection eg GSM/3G or HSDPA is feed to a desktop PC (say if the landline/broadband connection is down). In the O/Ps second post, the reference to Bluetooth speeds made it look like this was what was being saught.
I have done all of these with my TyTN II and had things working well in each case.

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