TomTom and BT-338 Connection - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading

I have been looking around this site for a solution and cant find one.
I have an iPAQ 5455 running WM2003 and TomTom 5.00 with USA Maps and a wired GPS unit. Everything worked fine untill my iPAQ serial connecter died. Will not sync anymore. so I started syncing thur Bluetooth connection.
I went out and bought a BT-338 GPS unit.
My problem is that when I run TomTom it says "NO GPS DEVICE" and I tryed everything and cant get it working. can someone help

Well first thing, go into your bluetooth mananger and delete your pairing to your GPS, then repair it from new. Now if you look in the bluetooth settings window you should see a meantion of "Com Ports". On my BA I have a tab called "COM Ports" buy yours might be slightly diffrent.
If you can, hold down on the GPS device you just repaired and connect it, but if you can't then don't worry it doesn't matter.
What you are looking for is something that looks like BTGPS 2A5BE1 (COM 7)
The wording/letters will be slightly diffrent on yours, but it will likely start BTGPS and should indicate a COM number. In my case the COM is '7'.
Now your done that, fire up Tom Tom. You should now see a signal strength type bar on the bottom left of the screen (wide bar on top, narrow on bottom.) Click this and you will goto into the Status Summary, then click on the bars on the to right just above the "# Satelites" text.
Right, almost there! Now on this fancy screen click on Configure, and goto "Other Bluetooth GPS" using the left/right bottoms, then click Select. You will then get a list of "COM" ports. Remember we found out what come port we have before? In my case it would be "COM7:" but yours might be diffrent.
Wait a second, and on the top of the fancy screen you should see a sign saying "No GPS Signal" or "GPS Found", as long as it doesn't say "No GPS Device" your done it! Just click Done a couple of times and use the device as normal.
Btw, that fancy screen is quite nifty in it's own way. It tells you which GPS satalites are floating above you, what the signal strength is for each one, how many you are connected to, and best of all, it will give you a grid refrence of your location.

Hey, It didnt work.
I cant change the com port under BT Setting. Its like its locked (greyed out) its set to Inbound COM Port: 5 and Outbound COM Port: 8 and it looks like in connects to the GPS.
Its say: "BT-GPS-3193FC: BT-GPS COM Port" How do you know what COM port it needs.
I really need to get this up and running for this weekend. I have a day trip planned. Thanks

That looks fine, when you goto the bit in TomTom where it asks you for what port you want, you should be able to select "COM:5", then ok everything, wait a bit, and there you go.
Make sure you connect the bluetooth GPS first before going into TomTom, if you can.

OK, I read that TomTom 5.00 had problems with the BT GPS and that you needed to upgrade. So I updated TomTom to 5.21 and it worked.
But..... Now I get "No Map Found" I heard there are problems with this around can anyone help. Thanks

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TT5 + Bluetooth..........again.

I asked it before, so here I go again.
For 4 weeks now I'm trying to get f.... TT5 working on my wizard,I'm using a nokia LD-3W receiver. I've tried all the comments, suggestions, tweaks available on this site, but it's still not working.
Who can help.
Everything is connecting, pairing etc. Also other available Gps software is not able to connect to this receiver. Again the question: what to do next.
......Stupid enough I even bought the official software...
what isn't it doing?
does it load at all?? does it not see the BT GPS reciever?? does it not find the maps/voices?
The receiver is paired and connected either to com 6 or 7. I also tried the GPS settings.
TT5 is starting and running, but it's not connecting to the receiver, although it blinked (blue) when pairing. Also it worked twice for several days but decided to stop working again. Because I expected this I backed-up the registry (when it was working) and restored it, nothing.
I updated my ROM in any version available, also nothing.
Is there a registry setting I missed ? Or something else I didn't do ?
have you set the phone to have an 'Incoming Port' for the GPS on 6 or 7?
Vilem said:
The receiver is paired and connected either to com 6 or 7. I also tried the GPS settings.
TT5 is starting and running, but it's not connecting to the receiver, although it blinked (blue) when pairing. Also it worked twice for several days but decided to stop working again. Because I expected this I backed-up the registry (when it was working) and restored it, nothing.
I updated my ROM in any version available, also nothing.
Is there a registry setting I missed ? Or something else I didn't do ?
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Yes there is! While hooked up to your pc using a/s 4.2, go to explore>windows mobile device>program files>navigator ,and copy the navigator .cfg file to your desktop. Now open it with WORDPAD (NOT NOTEPAD), and change the com port to whichever one you used earlier (com 6 or com 7) and copy it back to the device folder (navigator) that you copied it from.
I did that and it works perfectly.......P.S. I found that post using a remarkable little item called "search"......LOL :wink:
But really, try this...it works.
Later....... 8)
Did that and Tried that, also found that, like I said before I tried almost everything I found in this forum.
TT5 is setup for the same port as the gps is setup in comm manager. Everything looks like ist should work, it even did 2 times.
The receiver even reacts when I pair it, but it doesn't when tt5 is connecting with it.
Would be nice if one of you experts could help me with this
Don't know if the wizard works in the same way as the universal, but try switching your phone on before starting tomtom. I spent ages trying to get my universal to work before spotting this hint on o forum somewhere. Also give it a minute or two to work.
Hope this helps.
TT5 + bluetooth
make sure you have the following set:
1. GPS icon has to be enabled in settings (look for the reg tweak)
2. Use the #1 to select WM5 to manage GPS automatically.
3. Make sure to set "outgoing port" if you GPS is on 6 set the port to 7
4. In tomtom select port 7.
5. Make sure you're using TT 5.21 or above.
-gene
Cranny, I'm not English so maybe I understood your post in correct. If not.........
Gene, yes I did this also, this also doesn't help. I think the receiver is not ok but I need to find some way to prove that. It is pairing, therefore connecting but not starting if I switch on and connect TT5.
Could it be it's stuck in a powersave mode or something ?

Google Maps help

Google Maps is timing out and not displaying any imagery. It gives the following error “You must install a new version to use this program” I have version 1.2.0.18 installed which I think is the latest version of the tool. I tried installing via direct download through my device and *.cab file, both methods yielded the same results.
I started to think might be due to my network connection using MediaNet. I’m not sure if I should use “AT&T ISP” connection instead (I don’t know those settings are).
New AT&T Tilt user, device is just few days old
It, 1.2.0.13 works fine on my vario III. I can tell which room of my house I am in. Have you tried using it over wifi, this would show if it is your network settings that are out of whack.
wizzzard said:
It, 1.2.0.13 works fine on my vario III. I can tell which room of my house I am in. Have you tried using it over wifi, this would show if it is your network settings that are out of whack.
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Can you provide the Cab file for that version?
I can get it to initialize GPS but it doesn't get sattelites. (v1.2.0.18)
if you are trying to get GPS to work you either not to use a nother app to start the GPS or go into th settings and change it to look through com4 and baud rate of 4800
also the proper cab file should say compressed in the title
thats some weird stuff, never had a problem with gmaps on my tilt...try doing a hard reset and reinstalling and let us know how it goes (hard reset = (while the phone is on) press both soft keys simultaneously and take your stylus and insert it into the reset hole in the bottom, right above the miniusb connection)
Got it working....
Did a hard reset, stopped AT&T's customizations.
Now everything works. I have Visual GPS mapped to PTT & GoogleMaps mapped to PTT (Press & Hold).
I know it ain't the best for GPS but it's free and will do until I decide on which software to buy.
Like I said you don't have to start VisualGPS to get the GPS started with Google maps as long as you go into the settings and change it from Automatic to manual and then change the com port and buad rate My works great and is 1000 times faster than Windows Live maps which i think sucks personally
Same but different problem....
So google maps works, track location works well for about 5 minutes and stops. It says it's still seeing the birds but the flashing blue dot just wont move. Sure I turn "track location" off and then back on, it then works for another 5 minutes....
So do we think it's a H/W or a S/W issue?

TomTom installed correct, but can't wake internal GPS - help please!

I have the .032 version installed just fine and set to use the 'internal gps receiver', I also have a map in there and activated. Tomtom works great, aside from it says:
NO GPS DEVICE
All the time. I re-check and it's set to internal gps, but no flashing light and no gps.... I also can't see any other apps that I can test out the gps on. It's a UK T-mobile vario III.
Can anyone point me in the right direction? I just expected it to work! Initally it said 'can't connect -flight mode, gps turned off' but I turned the phone radio back on (exited flight mode) and it then just says 'no gps device'. I also can't see an icon in connection manager for the gps. AGPS downloads fine and appears okay though.
Greg.
If TomTom is stating there's is "No GPS Device" then you don't have TomTom configured properly. You need to set TomTom to use "Other Wired GPS", select 4800 or 9600 bps and set to COM4. Once this is done it should detect the GPS and it will either show you your current position or it will say no valid GPS signal.
Use GPSTest application (search on google or on this website) to test your GPS. It will automatically scan your device, detect the GPS and give you a lock on your current position.
Hope that helps.
ecltech said:
If TomTom is stating there's is "No GPS Device" then you don't have TomTom configured properly. You need to set TomTom to use "Other Wired GPS", select 4800 or 9600 bps and set to COM4. Once this is done it should detect the GPS and it will either show you your current position or it will say no valid GPS signal.
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greg123, I've never heard of this (what ecltech described above) working, but if it does, then that's cool.
Did you do something to the external GPS settings? That has been known to cause problems with the internal GPS. I believe the problem there lies with conflicting registry settings.
As a last resort, you may want to try doing what I did. I have my TomTom set up to be capable of switching between the Kaiser's internal receiver and an external one I use to save battery. I did this by manually changing registry settings for the GPS. Follow this link to the Wiki, scroll to the bottom, and use the links there to see how to set everything up.
This, if you do it right, should bring back functionality of your internal receiver (it has worked thus far for the TyTN II [French] and the AT&T Tilt). You'll have to setup TomTom to look at "Other NMEA GPS", with the appropriate COM port.
Note to Moderators: Would it make sense to put the Kaiser Wiki up as a sticky?
Thanks guys. In the settings, if I choose other NMEA, it doesn't give an option for com port. It goes internal/tomtom bluetooth/other bluetooth/tomtom wired/other wired nmea and if I pick nmea it has a slider giving me the option of baud rate, then that's it, 'done' and be it on nmea or on 'internal gps' (which is the first one I used, I never messed with settings till I confirmed it didn't work with internal) there are no com port options and not working.
Happy holidays though!
Greg.
Thanks to all - I think I have fixed it. One line in reg was missing, as if tmob had had the gps 'disabled', the other was set to com1.
NOW when I go to tomtom it still doestn' work on internal, but set to nmea and now com options pops up, select com 0 and bingo it's talking!
Still puzzled why the 'internal gps' option doesn't work, maybe I have the wrong version of .032 I downloaded from the tomtom thread as I don't have the cd and the other version says 'incompatible rom' as I have the tmobile rom.
Greg.
Just to keep this answer on top so that it can be found by google:
THANKS a lot !!! This answer was the key to my question
I just owned a t-mobile MDA compact 3 (or MDA 3 compact) with built-in GPS device.
I found no hint how to use this device with other applications.
I got the device working with google maps mobile but for this
you need to be connected with the internet all the time.
Another quite usefull application is "turbo GPS" (just google around and
you'll find it; it's free). With that app you have some nice features like
tracking, storing waypoints and export to KML-files (for use with google earth).
that was my contribution to this forum to say thanks.
Peter
ecltech said:
If TomTom is stating there's is "No GPS Device"
then you don't have TomTom configured properly. You need to set TomTom
to use "Other Wired GPS", select 4800 or 9600 bps and set to COM4.
Once this is done it should detect the GPS and it will either show you your
current position or it will say no valid GPS signal.
Use GPSTest application (search on google or on this website) to test your GPS.
It will automatically scan your device, detect the GPS and give you a lock on
your current position.
Hope that helps.
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What is wrong with the freaking GPS?!

Hi guys!
Im freaking out! I have a Dutch MDA Vario3 and I just cant seem to get the GPS to work. Tomtom can find the intern gps but no signal! I waited for about an hour today and yesterday it didnt work also..somebody can help me out? I use tomtom 6.032
help me out will yah...
try using the gps test first or quickgps before tomtom.
kidd78 said:
try using the gps test first or quickgps before tomtom.
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I did quickgps for about ten times!
gps test?
thx for your reply
Were you indoors? Did you move to a different location? You might want to test it with an external gps receiver or try a standalone gps unit (if you can borrow one). Try and find something that is more sensitive than the Kaiser, and, in the same location, see if you can get a signal.
My point is, you might just be in a bad spot. This happens to me at work all the time, it never picks up a signal, even after an hour of searching.
you must set the right com ports up
find out which port gps is on ie. usually com7
go into config (tomtom) annd then guide the tomtom to com7
it will work took me a couple of days to work it out then seemed so obvious
The above advice is all pretty good. If this is the first time you have used tomtom then it can take a good while.
I am assuming tomtom shows the message "no valid GPS signal" after showing briefly the message "No GPS device". If so this is good. It means your com ports are set correctly.
There are two things to be sure of though:
1.
You have aclear view of the sky - especially on the first occassion you get a fix.
2.
Make sure you have a suitable map in the correct location. Obviously getting a fix when there is no map or the map is in the wrong directory will not succeed.
Did quick GPS work and give you a "valid until" date?
GPS test is a nice simple app that will show you the port number you are on so you can make sure tomtom is using the same one. BUT if tomtom only fails at the no valid signal stage then I think your ports are fine.
Finally, some fatal problems can occur if you have changed entries in the "external GPS" settings. This might (according to some folk) require a hard reset to correct. But try the above first.
Mike
Check this thread first..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330412
Try GPSViewer and select the port settings manually and choose "Open GPS".
You should see some som action through GPS strings in the Setup page.
Then try with TomTom or Google Maps.
I never had issues with TomTom, but google map was having hard time initializing. But after using GPSViewer, it works pretty neat and quick!
arunprakashr said:
Check this thread first..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330412
Try GPSViewer and select the port settings manually and choose "Open GPS".
You should see some som action through GPS strings in the Setup page.
Then try with TomTom or Google Maps.
I never had issues with TomTom, but google map was having hard time initializing. But after using GPSViewer, it works pretty neat and quick!
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It tests all com-ports,but gpsviewer cant find anything..
While it is true that you can screw yourself if you mess with the external GPS settings, you might not have to hard reset. Check the Kaiser Wiki; all the way at the bottom, you'll find links to the registry settings for the internal GPS. If you follow those steps, and set your TomTom to Other NMEA Receiver, you'll be fine no matter what you did with the external settings.
mikechannon said:
The above advice is all pretty good. If this is the first time you have used tomtom then it can take a good while.
I am assuming tomtom shows the message "no valid GPS signal" after showing briefly the message "No GPS device". If so this is good. It means your com ports are set correctly.
There are two things to be sure of though:
1.
You have aclear view of the sky - especially on the first occassion you get a fix.
2.
Make sure you have a suitable map in the correct location. Obviously getting a fix when there is no map or the map is in the wrong directory will not succeed.
Did quick GPS work and give you a "valid until" date?
GPS test is a nice simple app that will show you the port number you are on so you can make sure tomtom is using the same one. BUT if tomtom only fails at the no valid signal stage then I think your ports are fine.
Finally, some fatal problems can occur if you have changed entries in the "external GPS" settings. This might (according to some folk) require a hard reset to correct. But try the above first.
Mike
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I have the phone since yesterday! All settings are ok! I first had t-mobile ROM on my phone, flashed it over with a dumpped original dutch htc rom. (gps also didnt work at the original rom that was on it from t-mobile)
I live in de centre of the city. No clouds or anything..
Where can I find gps test? I tried GPS Viewer, didnt work at all, cant seem to find any ports. I did hard reset and still..it doesnt work..
Bram87 said:
I have the phone since yesterday! All settings are ok! I first had t-mobile ROM on my phone, flashed it over with a dumpped original dutch htc rom. (gps also didnt work at the original rom that was on it from t-mobile)
I live in de centre of the city. No clouds or anything..
Where can I find gps test? I tried GPS Viewer, didnt work at all, cant seem to find any ports. I did hard reset and still..it doesnt work..
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GPS test here:
http://classic.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=24687&associateid=1224
It would help us to know the following:
1.
When tomtom is on does the amber led for GPS flash?
2
Does tomtom show "no valid GPS signal"?
3
Have you got a local map installed?
4
Did quick GPS download current data?
Mike
1.
When tomtom is on does the amber led for GPS flash?
Jep
2
Does tomtom show "no valid GPS signal"?
also correct
3
Have you got a local map installed?
uuh..west europe map..
4
Did quick GPS download current data?
it says after download "valid for six days and twentythree hours"
So I gues, yes
*thx Mike for helping me so far
Edit* gps test; shows "GPS is starting up"..(slow..)
Mmmm. Did GPS test show any bars in the end?
Mike
mikechannon said:
Mmmm. Did GPS test show any bars in the end?
Mike
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Hi mike..
It works..It took some time (alot) but..It works..Hope it keeps working!
Thank you and wish you a happy new year!
Bram87 said:
Hi mike..
It works..It took some time (alot) but..It works..Hope it keeps working!
Thank you and wish you a happy new year!
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Yep, first time around it can take a loooong time. After that it should be faster.
Happy New Year.
Mike

GPS Issues LiveSearch OK TomTom Not on Tilt

My device was working find with regards to GPS usage. I had to do a hard reset for some other issues. Now I can't get the GPS to work with TomTom or any other program where you specify the Com port.
Programs that work:
Live Search - Setting Windows Managed GPS Intermediate Driver
RunGps - Setting Windows Managed if you ask the program to find the port it will not find one. (Great Program)
Programs that don't work:
TomTom - Can't find the GPS whether I choose Internal or Other NMEA
GPS Test - Never finds the GPS
Any suggestions? Not really in the mood to do another hard reset but if folks think that will help I will try it. I have searched the forums and haven't found any specific answers to this.
This is an AT&T Tilt with the stock rom latest version from AT&T. No other modifications. I am not afraid to try editing the registry if need be.
Thanks,
Chris
bump.
Anyone?
did you install any gps software, i installed some crappy google maps knockoff and it borked my gps to where no program would connect had to hard reset my phone to get it to work again.
pdtp said:
did you install any gps software, i installed some crappy google maps knockoff and it borked my gps to where no program would connect had to hard reset my phone to get it to work again.
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Nope. I have Live Search and RunGPS. Neither program has ever interfered with TomTom. Seems like something has gone wrong with the com port that the internal gps uses.
After a hard reset your first lock will take a little longer. How long have you left tomtom running to be able to get a lock? It might say no gps device for a goot 10 min before it locks on.
Also when you start up tomtom is the orange light blinking?
fone_fanatic said:
After a hard reset your first lock will take a little longer. How long have you left tomtom running to be able to get a lock? It might say no gps device for a goot 10 min before it locks on.
Also when you start up tomtom is the orange light blinking?
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No lights. Running for 20 min and still can't find the device when set to internal gps. Thanks for the info though it was worth a try.
I have TomTom 6 and it is set to "Other BlueTooth GPS receiver" and Com4.
In Windows Mobile, Start, Settings, System tab, External GPS, Program port is Com4, GPS hardware port is (none), Baud 4800.
kierandill said:
I have TomTom 6 and it is set to "Other BlueTooth GPS receiver" and Com4.
In Windows Mobile, Start, Settings, System tab, External GPS, Program port is Com4, GPS hardware port is (none), Baud 4800.
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That didn't work either. I am going to do another hard reset this weekend and see what happens. I will install TomTom before anything else.
Thanks for all the suggestions. I gave up and did a hard reset. First thing I installed was TomTom. It now appears to work as previously. Not sure what took out the com port but now all is well.
live searh????
hi i upgraded my phones operating sistem or i shal say someone else did it for me other wise i would be able to figure this out my self. i cant get livesearch to run in the new windows mobile 6.1 why???? any one? any one????

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