Hi all.
Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but I did a search and could not find any info on this.
I have a t-mobile vario (sim unlocked - using Lokiwiz02). Shop told it couldn't be done, but quite a few of you clever people had already done it, so I did too. All went well, it's now sim free!
However, I prefer the i-mate ROMs and have already got the original i-mate ROM installer ready to go.
Does anyone know if this is possible and if so, is it a straight forward procedure (regular way of upgrading a ROM), or is there anything specific I would have to do and what, if any, are the risks?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Used the Lokiwiz tool but typed "c " at the prompt instead of u and I was able to flash after. Otherwise I got the vendor ID wrong error
Hi everyone,this is my first tread and I hope someone can help me.
I've just bought a T-Mobile MDA VARIO in USA that is Unlock,because it read me differens SIMs with no problem, but I want to know if is also CID - unlocked because I want to put in, afterwards, the ROM with the italian language.
What I have to do to look if is CID locked or not?
thank you for your time
Mick
mickscores said:
Hi everyone,this is my first tread and I hope someone can help me.
I've just bought a T-Mobile MDA VARIO in USA that is Unlock,because it read me differens SIMs with no problem, but I want to know if is also CID - unlocked because I want to put in, afterwards, the ROM with the italian language.
What I have to do to look if is CID locked or not?
thank you for your time
Mick
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Ciao,
this is what you have to do:
1) Check whether your phone is G3 or G4 (reset and look at IPL/SPL version: 2.xx.0001->G4; 2.xx->G3)
2) If it is G4: you cannot CID unlock it. To install a different rom, then, you must follow this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271043
3) If it is G3 AND rom version is >= 2.21 (equal or greater than 2.21): cannot be CID unlocked, use the same tutorial as for G4.
4) If it is G3 AND rom version is < 2.21 (minor than 2.21): follow this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116 to learn how to downgrade the rom and CID unlock the phone.
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Thank you, Risidoro, for the excellent advice.
I have a couple of follow-up questions:
Background: My T-Mo (USA) MDA has SPL/IPL 2.26, OS 2.26.10.2 (determined as per your advice). I'd like to install a different "unrestricted" ROM (mainly to get access to JAVA and to impove performance).
Here are the questions:
1. The current ROM (2.26) is not the original software of my MDA: it's the official update released by T-Mo a couple of months ago (I installed it myself). I don't know by now what was the orginal version. It was probably a much earlier version, perhaps 1.17. So, my first question is: does it matter what the original version was, or it only matters what the current version is? Can I fry the phone if I follow your advice for case 3?
2. T-Mo unlocked the phone for me (they do it for its customers after a while). However, I don't know if it's been both SIM-unlocked and CID-unlocked; or just SIM-unlocked. How do I find out? I did run lokiwiz on it (just in case) but I have no idea if it succeded.
3. After running lokiwiz, I tried to install QTek 9100 ROM with push mail, shipping (I found it on the web, and it claimed to be for a shipping QTeck; so, I thought it's a pretty safe ROM). It states that its version is 2.17.7.102. However, the installation failed: it got to the three-colored screen and stopped there. The device is OK though (after soft reset), just runs the previous software 2.26. What does it tell us? And does it make sense at all to "upgrade" to a lower version just to get an unlocked JAVA-running device? Or you'd recommend a different ROM (which one?)?
Many thanks,
LKMDA
risidoro said:
Ciao,
this is what you have to do:
1) Check whether your phone is G3 or G4 (reset and look at IPL/SPL version: 2.xx.0001->G4; 2.xx->G3)
2) If it is G4: you cannot CID unlock it. To install a different rom, then, you must follow this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271043
3) If it is G3 AND rom version is >= 2.21 (equal or greater than 2.21): cannot be CID unlocked, use the same tutorial as for G4.
4) If it is G3 AND rom version is < 2.21 (minor than 2.21): follow this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116 to learn how to downgrade the rom and CID unlock the phone.
bye
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For your point 3:
Does the problem appears after I upgrade the ROM version to 2.26 (t-mobile)?
Current version is 1.7.13
can the G4 be unlock through - http://www.imei-check.co.uk/ ?
uccoffee said:
can the G4 be unlock through - http://www.imei-check.co.uk/ ?
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Some have reported that they have used IMEI with the G4 successfully.
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Hi,
I have Tmobile MDA (locked to this network both ways and GSM and CID) - and I am wondering is there someone in the good mood to explain what do I need to do to have Windows Mobile 6.0 on my phone?
My ROM version is 2.26.10.2 wwe ...
So, like what I need to do first - GSM unlock, then CID, then what ROM I need to install and where to find it?
Thank you for your patience and will to help me out.
been done already
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
there is no difference between upgarding to wm5 or wm6
How to flash a wizard....and not get turned into a frog.
Or try this one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
thanks guys
Thank you guys - will check and will do
Dear All
I will appreciate if anyone of you can help me with this query.
I have a T Mobile MDA Vario (UK) and would like to upgrade it to WM6, i have got the upgrade ROM from T Mobile US website but when i ran it the error was "INVALID VENDOR ID" .
The details of my phone are
MDA Vario (UK)
ROM Version 2.21.2.6 WWE
ROM date: 3/9/06
Radio Version 02.19.11
Protocol Version 4.1.13.09
Ext ROM Version 2.21.2.109
And for you all its a G4 device.
Looking forward to hearing from all you experienced professionals.
Wizard doesnt have official WM6, the one your got probably is for Dash.
And, I'm not sure if you can flash a US ROM to a UK phone without CID unlocking your phone. Invalid Vendor ID usually mean the CID-Lock on your phone is preventing it form flashing.
Thanks Hanmin
I am not sure mate, when i logged onto T Mobile USA website i choose MDA upgrade but since i have not being able to do it, can you suggest what shall i do now.
Hmm.. I did a check, it is rather interesting as there isn't really knew regarding WM6 upgrade for Wizard from T-Mobile. It is referred as MR1, which is different from AKU, but from what it is said, chances is, it is AKU, not WM6.
Usually, you ought to be able to download stuff from here
http://www.tm-phonedownloads.com/download_manager_mda_vario.html
which, as of today (12 May 07), it is still the AKU update. I've updated my Vario UK with this one, it works. Anyway, from what I get from your phone info, yours is already AKU.
Many thanks Hanmin
I think then this is what i got, how can i get an upgrade for WM6 mate? any clues or help will be much appreciated.
Will be receiving a HTC TyTN II. It will be Orange branded and sim locked.
I understand the first thing will be to install Hard SPL.
1. Now, I read somewhere that HTC haven't released any official ROMs of their own with Windows Mobile 6.1. Why is it that the Shipped ROMs wiki page has them here?
2. Whether or not they are HTC's own 6.1 ROMs, there are three I'm willing to try. They are (and I'm just copying and pasting these from the Shipped ROMs wiki page):
3.03.405.0 (Radio 1.64.06.04) updated original WWE found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365047
3.02.405.0 (Radio 1.58.26.20) original WWE found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365068
3.28.405.0 (Radio 1.65.16.25) original HTC WWE (World Wide English) found here http://rapidshare.com/files/1170540....0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship.zip
These three seem to be "original" HTC Windows Mobile 6.1 ROMs. All are worldwide English. So what's the difference between each? Should I simply assume the one with the higher version number is the better one?
they have released wm6.1 check htc.com....
htc e-club...
tak.japan said:
they have released wm6.1 check htc.com....
htc e-club...
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Thanks for confirming for me. I can't check the e-Club yet as I will be getting the phone maybe tomorrow. Anyhow, I really just want the original (and latest if possible) HTC Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM. Which should I pick form the list in the original post. Is one of them the same as the current one on HTC's e-Club?
tak.japan said:
they have released wm6.1 check htc.com....
htc e-club...
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As your kaiser is Orange branded you will not be able to download from HTC, i wont recognise your imei. You should be able to find a link here, just root about the threads a bit. I'd start with the XDA kaiser wiki.
yardie.spike said:
As your kaiser is Orange branded you will not be able to download from HTC, i wont recognise your imei. You should be able to find a link here, just root about the threads a bit. I'd start with the XDA kaiser wiki.
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Thanks. Yup, I found 3 that seem to be HTC originals. Don't know how up to date they are with HTC's e-Club but they should do. From the three I have found below, I'm assuming the higher version is the latest (3.28.405.0), but why does the Shipped ROMs Wiki page not just delete the other 2 and keep the latest one?
Here are the 3 I found:
3.03.405.0 (Radio 1.64.06.04) updated original WWE found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365047
3.02.405.0 (Radio 1.58.26.20) original WWE found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365068
3.28.405.0 (Radio 1.65.16.25) original HTC WWE (World Wide English) found here http://rapidshare.com/files/11705402...16.25_Ship.zip
Question 1: Which should I go for, the one I'm assuming as the latest (3.28.405.0), or are all three completely different things?
Question 2: Do these HTC ROMs include all the bundled HTC software that would normally come on an original HTC TyTN II Kaiser?
I'd really like these 2 questions answered before I try the upgrade.
yrsmart said:
why does the Shipped ROMs Wiki page not just delete the other 2 and keep the latest one?
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Some users have better luck with older versions, or older radios. Newest isn't always better
yrsmart said:
Question 1: Which should I go for, the one I'm assuming as the latest (3.28.405.0), or are all three completely different things?
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Appear to be different build versions an different radios, Some builds/radios work better for some users than others.
yrsmart said:
Question 2: Do these HTC ROMs include all the bundled HTC software that would normally come on an original HTC TyTN II Kaiser?
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Read the thread attached to them., it will tell you what comes with the rom and what doesn't
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I'd really like these 2 questions answered before I try the upgrade.
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Hope this helped in some way. The best way to find the best ROM/Radio is to try them all and see what suits you the best.
Just remember that you will need to unlock the phone too, otherwise installing a new radio (which is needed for WM6.1) will lock your phone and require an unlock code. There is free software on this site to do that for you. Just follow it to the letter and try and use sim cards that are not sim code locked (which i done and had so many problems getting it unlocked)
If it arrives soon you have a very good chance it will have 6.1. If not there is a 6.1 update for download on the Orange UK 6.1 thread. With this you wouldn't have to 'crack' it and invalidate any warranty?
This is what I did and then load the cabs you want. I think every htc cab you could ever need is in here.
rlatarche said:
Just remember that you will need to unlock the phone too, otherwise installing a new radio (which is needed for WM6.1) will lock your phone and require an unlock code. There is free software on this site to do that for you. Just follow it to the letter and try and use sim cards that are not sim code locked (which i done and had so many problems getting it unlocked)
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I think we are referring to Security unlocking. This process ensures that you phone cannot become bricked by installing the latest radios from HTC that have extra security. Without security unlock you cannot downgrade these radios without a tool called FrankenKaiser.
I'd recommend Sec Unlock for every user, It can be re-locked later if need be.
Thanks
Dave
Yes but the Orange UK phones are radio locked too, which requires the phone to sim unlocked and HardSPL installed to (To prevent Bricking)
stuart-online said:
If it arrives soon you have a very good chance it will have 6.1. If not there is a 6.1 update for download on the Orange UK 6.1 thread. With this you wouldn't have to 'crack' it and invalidate any warranty?
This is what I did and then load the cabs you want. I think every htc cab you could ever need is in here.
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Thank you all for your replies.
The phone will have Windows Mobile 6.1 on it, but it's Orange branded with Orange's bloatware. I would prefer just installing the default HTC ROMs. It's also going to be SIM locked to Orange (I confirmed all this before purchase). But, buying the Orange one also worked out cheaper for me.
Question 1:The first thing I'm going to try is SIM unlocking it, while keeping the Orange ROM as it is. Then I'll try a non-Orange SIM card and see if it works. Will I be able to simply unlock the SIM by just using KaiserUnlocker.exe?
Question 2:After that, if I don't like the Orange branded Windows Mobile 6.1, isn't it simply a case of installing HardSPL v3.x.x (latest) and then continuing with the HTC ROM flash procedure as found here?
Question 3:I've just read some replies above about security unlocking. I'll need to do that as well? Is it automatic as part of HardSPL version 3.x.x?
Sorry for all the questions, I've done and still am researching the Wiki/stickies. I figure it'll save time if I clarify the steps now before attempting anything risky.
yrsmart said:
Thank you all for your replies.
The phone will have Windows Mobile 6.1 on it, but it's Orange branded with Orange's bloatware. I would prefer just installing the default HTC ROMs. It's also going to be SIM locked to Orange (I confirmed all this before purchase). But, buying the Orange one also worked out cheaper for me.
Question 1:The first thing I'm going to try is SIM unlocking it, while keeping the Orange ROM as it is. Then I'll try a non-Orange SIM card and see if it works. Will I be able to simply unlock the SIM by just using KaiserUnlocker.exe?
Question 2:After that, if I don't like the Orange branded Windows Mobile 6.1, isn't it simply a case of installing HardSPL v3.x.x (latest) and then continuing with the HTC ROM flash procedure as found here?
Question 3:I've just read some replies above about security unlocking. I'll need to do that as well? Is it automatic as part of HardSPL version 3.x.x?
Sorry for all the questions, I've done and still am researching the Wiki/stickies. I figure it'll save time if I clarify the steps now before attempting anything risky.
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You must have Hard SPL v1 OliPof to use the Kaiser SIM Unlocker (from here)
The security unlock is not part of the Hard SPL 3.* process, there is a seperate thread by jocky on Security unlocking.
Thanks
Dave
DaveShaw said:
You must have Hard SPL v1 OliPof to use the Kaiser SIM Unlocker (from here)
The security unlock is not part of the Hard SPL 3.* process, there is a seperate thread by jocky on Security unlocking.
Thanks
Dave
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Ah, but then the KaiserUnlocker says I must also be on a Windows Mobile 6.0 ROM to SIM unlock it, and my Orange phone will come with a 6.1 ROM. And on the HardSPL v3 FAQ, it says if you're on a 6.1 ROM, you should use HardSPL v3.
So, does this mean I can't unlock the SIM, without first installing HardSPL v3, downgrading to a HTC 6.0 ROM, then installing HardSPL v1, use KaiserUnlocker, then install HardSPL v3 again and upgrade to HTC 6.1 ROM?
Or what better option does an Orange-branded HTC TyTN II Windows Mobile 6.1 Sim-locked phone have?
yrsmart said:
Ah, but then the KaiserUnlocker says I must also be on a Windows Mobile 6.0 ROM to SIM unlock it, and my Orange phone will come with a 6.1 ROM. And on the HardSPL v3 FAQ, it says if you're on a 6.1 ROM, you should use HardSPL v3.
So, does this mean I can't unlock the SIM, without first installing HardSPL v3, downgrading to a HTC 6.0 ROM, then installing HardSPL v1, use KaiserUnlocker, then install HardSPL v3 again and upgrade to HTC 6.1 ROM?
Or what better option does an Orange-branded HTC TyTN II Windows Mobile 6.1 Sim-locked phone have?
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Install Hard SPL v3 and try the SIM Unlock, sometimes it will work, if it fails, downgrade to Hard SPL v1 and Flash a WM6.0 ROM. Then Sim unlock, then Flash the 3.* Hard SPL and a WM6.1 ROM & Radio.
Thanks
Dave
DaveShaw said:
Install Hard SPL v3 and try the SIM Unlock, sometimes it will work, if it fails, downgrade to Hard SPL v1 and Flash a WM6.0 ROM. Then Sim unlock, then Flash the 3.* Hard SPL and a WM6.1 ROM & Radio.
Thanks
Dave
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Excellent, I will try this method and let you know how it goes. Thanks.